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I have tried to quit paxil several times....I did not do it slowly  or not slow enough.    The longest I ever made it was about  4 months off then the wheels fell off the bus.....big time.  And I reinstated and stabilized.

 

 

I understand the thinking behind long slow tapers - which would be the only way to go if I ever do this again.   I wanted to know if any of you found that even with a long and slow.....you end up uncomfortable some time after you have finally dropped to zero.

 

I understand that everybody is different - but does the brain slowly adjust or does the hard stuff still get ya later?

 

Hope this isn't too obtuse. B)

 

Raven.

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20 mg paroxetine for 20 years.  3 times stopped but unsuccessful each time.

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I also had the experience of trying to get off anti-depressants several times without success. The common advice from doctors, to cut down my dose to every other day was disastrous for me. The withdrawal was so deadly and prolonged I'd give up. Since I  had told no one I was on SSRI's, and had been for years, I wasn't discussing the situation with friends. Then I came across a very understanding and informative guide about getting off anti-depressants. For the first time I had a clue about how to get off this stuff. I think it might answer some of your questions.

https://theicarusproject.net/resources/publications/harm-reduction-guide-to-coming-off-psychiatric-drugs-and-withdrawal/

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On 20 mg of Prozac for about ten years. Sept 2012 started reducing 10% a drop using gram scale, with average of one month holds.

When I'd reached the half way mark, taking 10 mg  powder out of the 20 mg capsules, I switched over to 10 mg capsules and cutting

down from those. Withdrawals got harder the lower I dropped.  May 2013 changed to 5% drops, holding until all withdrawal symptoms gone.

January 2015 changed to liquid prozac (concentration of 20MG per 5 mL) using a 1mL oral syringe.

Current dose of fluoxetine solution equivalent 3.4 mg. Any effort to drop below this has been disastrous so for the time being I'm staying at this level.
Adding 200 mg Tryptophan and 200 GABA a day has helped with anxiety.
Also take 1,300mg Omega- 3,  875mg  Magnesium, 1800mg Curcumin, 1000mg Vit C, 5000 Vit D.
 

 

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I have tried to quit paxil several times....I did not do it slowly  or not slow enough.    The longest I ever made it was about  4 months off then the wheels fell off the bus.....big time.  And I reinstated and stabilized.

 

 

I understand the thinking behind long slow tapers - which would be the only way to go if I ever do this again.   I wanted to know if any of you found that even with a long and slow.....you end up uncomfortable some time after you have finally dropped to zero.

 

I understand that everybody is different - but does the brain slowly adjust or does the hard stuff still get ya later?

 

Hope this isn't too obtuse. B)

 

Raven.

YES!! I want to know this too.  I don't see any posts from people who did a very slow and careful taper and what the next months/years were like...I worry about delayed w/d's too.   I did a super slow taper off of Valium 10 years ago and found that, as I got lower I felt much better until the very end and the next few months when I was more "out of it".    But I went on to full recovery (my baseline from a previous c/t w/d) w/i 18 mths and no intense w/d's.  Surely am hoping that this will be the same but don't see any post on it...

1971-81  Valium 5mg c/t PAWS     1992- through now Zoloft 25mg    2003-05 Valium 12mg Slow Taper Off

2013 Afrin Exposure to CNS    2013 O/D Val 230mg    2013 Doxepin 50mg Clonidine 2mg Zoloft 25mg

3/15/16  Doxepin 49mg Micro Tapering  Zoloft 24.3mg Holding taper

3/15/16 Clonidine mg 0.1 1/2 -    Decreasing incrementally. 

10/9/16  Doxepin 48.9  Zoloft 24.3  Clonidine  01.10  Continuing micro taper on Doxepin.

11/16/16 Doxepin 48mg  Zoloft 24.3mg  Clonidine 1.30mg

5/4/17  Doxepin 45mg  Zoloft 24mg  Clonidine 1.20mg   Micro taper of Doxepin, Clonidine

01/13/19  Doxepin 45mg   Zoloft 21mg   Will start Micro taper of Doxepin 2/19

 

 

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What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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I've only dropped one of my meds all the way to zero, the gabapentin. I had a slightly bumpy month and a half after I came off but then things went back to my current "normal" at that time. (That was two and a half years ago so my normal now is actually quite a bit better than my normal then was.)

 

Still have a bit to go before I get to zero on any of the other ones. But given how I feel after cuts and then how that resolves and how I feel after longer holds, I'm anticipating that it will go pretty well. Of course I do plan to taper very slowly.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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Maple leaf girl did a four year taper after a few unsuccessful fast ones and is now 7 months out and doing well.

Paxil start September 2003 due to Fluoroquinolone adverse reaction that I wish doc. knew what it was. 10mg. most of the time with a few short runs of 20mg. FAST tapered 3 times and finally hit poop out or a reaction to nsaid's in Nov.2013. Started a 10% taper Jan. 2014 and have been ok until Sept 14 and went through a short hell. Now plodding through and looking for the light with unrelenting insomnia and pain, fog, loss of interests....<p>12/20/14 - .8mg.

1/01/15 - .75 mg.

1/15/15 - .42 mg. better sleep now, hope it continues...

2/11-15 - .25 mg. doing really good!! 2 weeks feel 85% of old me!

3/17/15 .14 mg. Knee pain bad!

4/07/15 .05 mg. this is so small now that I am estimating and just licking it off palm small as a "." 

4/13/15 NOTHING !!!! Took my last little micro dose on 4/12/15. ????????????????

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I'd like to comment here in the positive, but I'm only 4 months post taper after a 4 year taper, so I don't know what's going to happen. So far I'm fine, I feel completely back to normal. Still have mild things: morning Cortisol maybe once a week; very mild brain zaps (worthnoting that these were always mild, that is never really bothered me perhaps due to the slow taper); irritability sometimes and mild disphoria for very short periods (1-2hrs) about once a month. As I said, all these things are so mild and short lived that I could almost convince myself they are normal.

 

Still I have to wait until 9-10 months out to feel I'm perhaps out of the woods. So there it is. Anyway, April 1st I'll be half way there!

Sept 12th 1992-began taking Imipramine (50mgs) for panic attacks.

Stopped Imipramine after 4 months (cold turkey).

7 months later experienced "mysterious" bad flu-like symptoms, although, without upper respiratory problems or fever. Because of this and a day of panic attacks, was put on Prozac (20mgs?) for 2 months and then, when that didn't work-was put back on  Imipramine,  plus Xanax 1 mg (4Xdaily)-October 1993.

March 1999-switched from Imipramine (50mgs) to Celexa.

2008-switched to Pristiq for 3 months, then back to Effexor XR (after bad reaction to the Pristiq).

Sept 1st 2010-Switched from Effexor XR (75mgs) to Effexor Generic (solid form) in preparation for taper.

Nov 15th 2010-Began tapering from 75mgs Effexor Generic.

January 13th 2014-.06mgs

April 17th 2014-      .03mgs

May 11th 2014-       .02mgs

Ended taper October 31st 2014

Oct 4th 2015-11 months post taper and completely back to normal!

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I'm only 4 months out after a year taper. I have to say that except for the insomnia issues (which I have struggled with for years), I feel really good. About 24 hours after I took my last .5 mg of Effexor, it was like the fog had lifted. The "cog fog" I had experienced while on Effexor went away almost immediately. My energy came back. The flatness went away.

 

I don't know if side effects will appear later. I know that happens to some. I hope I am one of the lucky ones--but who knows?

Oncologist prescribed Effexor 37.5 for hot flashes after my dx of breast cancer in December 2011. Up dosed to 75 then 150 XR before it worked. Decided to come off after my naturopath/nutritionist gave me a couple of supplements that worked on the hot flashes. Started weaning November 2013 from 150. Got down to 37.5 by mid-February 2014--WAY TOO FAST!! Found this site and am now going much slower. WD side effects are much better--still there-- but manageable. Lesson learned the hard way!!

 

Short RX for Xanax prescribed for PPD/anxiety after childbirth in 1985--about 3 months--can't remember dosage.

Effexor 150 XR March 2012dates are fuzzy)

Started taper November 2013

Mid February 2014--28 mg; 3/22/14--24 mg; 4/19/14--18.75 mg; 5/14/14--14.1 mg; 6/11/14--11.7 mg; 7/2/14--9.4 mg; 7/23/14--7.8 mg; 8/18/14--6.25 mg; 9/7/14--4.7 mg; 9/21/14--3.75 mg; 10/5/14--3.125 mg; 10/12/14 --2.56 mg; 10/19/14-2.34 mg; 10/26/14--1.56 mg; 11/2/14--1 mg; 11/9/14--.5 mg; 11/16/14--0 mg.

 

Current Rx:

 

Synthoid 100 mg daily

Cytomel 5 mg

Both due to thyroid cancer & subsequent removal of thyroid in June, 2010.

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❤️❤️❤️❤️ Please

Keep us posted - I see this and have so much hope ❤️

 

*Currently at 3.3mg off my 10mg pill of Paxil (they actually weigh 12.5mg) so I’m around 7.4 mg 

*No other supplements or vitamins 

*Taper schedule in the pdf 

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-5vShtJtwAOGA30OxIP87steLmMdFzD29F0fzAPD564

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Hi, very glad I found this forum. I've been reading the posts here for weeks, and decided to post my experience so far in case it can help anyone. I decided for sure to taper off Pristiq a few months ago. I've taken 50mg for 3 1/2 yrs and hoping i no longer need it for anxiety attacks. I tried cold turkey 8 mths ago and became VERY sick on day 3. So this time I took 3/4 of a pill for 2 weeks (bit them in half and then half again - not an exact science); then I did a half pill for 2 weeks, then a quarter pill for 1 1/2 weeks. My last quarter pill was last Saturday. Imy on vacation this week from work thankfully. The tapering part went well; I didn't notice any symptoms. On Monday I felt very fatigued, achy and head achy so I laid around with the TV on til 2:30. Tuesday I felt better and was more productive but had strange sensations in my head (brain zaps?) And dizziness. Wednesday, head sensations. Today I have the head sensations but am ok. Knock on wood but I think the taper may have worked for me and ita be because I was only taking 50mg.

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I think that the rule of thumb for safe tapering is a 10 percent reduction every month.

 

If I am reading correctly you went from 50 to zero in a little over a mos.

 

I wish I could direct you to the place where it talks about tapering your Pristiq.  Hopefully a moderator will be by shortly.

 

And any meds. taken prior to the Pristiq?  Information like that always helps.

 

Non medication coping skills for anxiety that you have in place and are doing regularly?

 

Yes, knock on wood.  Hopefully you will be a lucky one.  I would at the very least be expecting some "rebound anxiety" to creep up pretty soon.  I believe Pristiq, Cymbalta, and Effexor are all pretty similar in chemical make up(SSNRI's) and often do create a lot of more protracted withdrawal issues.  Not to be a Debbie Downer.  And hopefully you do have some to reinstate with which might help later.

 

Please post again in some 3-6 mos.  Or sooner.  I have only been around here for 3 mos. myself.

 

Meanwhile..........hoping a moderator directs you soon.  Even with tapering that 10 percent every mos. a lot of people do run into difficulties, and especially when getting down to the final stages, lower doses.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. 

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Ravenvision,

 

Yeah everyone is different and people have ben on these drugs for various amounts of time from a month to many years.

 

I can give you an example for my case since I've been on it or quite some time now. Initially I was told by my doctor that tapering off Paxil was easy, basically take the pill every other day for 2 weeks then 1 pill every few days then 1 pill a week and then off. Easier said than done and it was quite the roler coaster ride.

 

The for many years I ended up just taking 10mg a day which kept me in a good, sane mood. Then one day I decided to take control of my life instead of a pill dictating path and came upon a website that has since been closed called Paxil Progress. From there I learned from quite a few folks that there was a much better method of tapering, albeit a bit slow but so far it's been worth it. For the most part the 10% drop each month is a good baseline, but some people find you might have to drop slower the lower you get.

 

As you can see from my signature I've ben tapering since Oct. of 2013. Yes, there are ups and downs and I get typical symptoms of insomnia, night sweats, some memory loss (maybe also due to ambien), irritability, not wating to o out and be with people, difficulty focusing. Basically, this isn't a race and you have all the time in the world to get off it. Some drops I go down a bit each month and some I wait a couple months. If I feel I need to stay on a particular dose for a bit longer I just stick with it until I feel comfortable dropping down to the next cut.

 

They say it gets harder the lower you go and the 5.0mg mark is where some get into a weird zone but I belive that where your body may be telling you that ok its time to hang out here for a bit before moving forward. I'm at 3.2 mg and so far I've ben doing pretty good. Getting sound sleep( when I can get it), in my opinion, has helped me tremendously. Also eating better, going for a workout, and socializing with people have also helped. I take some supplements on the side like Omega 3 fish oil, Magnesium Citrate, even started adding Chia Seed to my diet recently and so far it hasn't had any negative effects.

 

I'm looking forward to that day where I hit the zero mark and hope the rest of us can do it as well.

 

Hope this helps.

Taken paxil for 15 years

Tapering since Oct 2013 from 10mg Gemini 20 scale

Oct 6, 2013 9.2 mg Nov 27 8.6mg Feb 2 2014 7.8mg March 16 7.4mg March 30 7.0mg May 18 6.2mg July 6 5.8mg Sept 7 5.4 Oct 19 4.8 Dec 14 4.6 Feb 8th 2015 4.2mg Mar 22 3.8mg May 10 3.4mg July 19 3.2mg Sept 6 2.8mg Nov 8 2.5 mg Dec 27 2.3 Feb 14 2016 2.0 Mar 19 updosed to 2.5mg May 4 2.4 June 12 2.2mg July 31 2.0 Sept 11 1.7mg Nov 13 1.5mg Jan 22 2017 1.3mg Mar 19 1.0mg April 20 0.8 June 0.7 Aug 0.6 Sept 0.5 Oct 0.4 Nov 0.3 Dec too low to weigh so I'm eyeballing it the rest of the way Feb 10 finally stopped !!!!! Keeping fingers crossed!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This question bothers me too, i have tapered very slowly and I am down to 1.08 mg zoloft now, What happens at zero? Will it be smooth? i really hope so, I had so enough of this (but who has'nt?).

Current dose: 0! Free!  Quit June 2017.

 

2017: Last dose zoloft: 17 June 0,00065 mg 18 May 0, 001 mg 14 May 0,002 mg 9 May 0,003 mg 28 April 0,006 mg 19 April 0,009 mg 8 April 0,013 mg 25 March 0,019 mg 22 March 0,039 mg 18 March 0,052 mg 16 March 0,079 mg 4 March 0,086 1 March 0,099 mg 22 February 0,11 mg 15 February 0,13 mg 6 February 0,145 mg 24 January 0,15 mg 19 January 0,19 mg 10 January 0,20 mg 3 January

 

2016: 0,98 to 0,22 mg

2015: 2,35 to 1,01 mg

2014: 4,9 to 2,5 mg

2013: 9,1 to 5,1 mg

2012: 15,7 to 9,7 mg

2011: Started on 25 mg - then 50 mg- dropped to 25- to 12.5 mg - back to 25 mg - after 18.75 mg started tiny tapering to 16.6 mg

 

Started on 25 mg Zoloft in March 2011 due to stressrelated tinnitus that gave me panicattacks. Had a terrible reaction to Zoloft from start, but was told to "hold on". After four months I was stuck. Therefore the long taper. Crazy, I know... Super sensitive to drops and have dropped by 4-6 % from the previous dose.

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I just jumped at 4 mg of Trazadone a few weeks ago. I did a slow 10 month taper from 75 mg. Withdrawal is not that bad, I feel pretty good.

10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14  Jumped 10/14.  Done.                                                                              

3/14        7.5 Remeron  still taking this.                              

2/14         75 Trazodone   -    Tapered by dry cutting all the way down.

1/16        4 mg Trazodone  -  Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Had to reinstate.

4/16        Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone

2/19        .04 Trazodone. Walked off.  Done.

10/3/19  Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076

4/5/20    New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg.

1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg

2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15

 

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Going to try for a revival of this thread, for those of us post zero, and wanting to share experiences after tapering to zero.

Me, I've gotta post my success story ASAP.  Because it's time.🤓  And yes, for me, I feel successful, in my own journey and adventure off. 

 

Just going to put this here today, it's on a refrigerator magnet, that I picked up at a 12 step meeting awhile back.  Author unknown.

 

F. E. A. R.

has two meanings

Forget Everything And Run

OR

Face Everything and Rise

 

The choice is yours.

 

And yah, once in awhile, I still hit partial days, or a day, of just wanting to run and/or hide and isolate.

And if I can, am free enough from responsibilities to others and myself, sometimes I WILL take a day, or a few hours to just go with the feeling.

Me, I can't afford more than a day though.  If I allow myself too long at it, the feeling, the fears, it does tend to spiral into something bigger and becomes a deeper hole, which is then much harder to climb out of.

I've found communities and relationships with other people to be perhaps, one of the most helpful things, in healing further. Oh just plain faith too.  We've got the whole Finding Meaning forum for that though.

So if I isolate, I start getting disconnected, and then that's not so good.

So that's something I've learned.

 

Many more experiences, of course.  B)

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

manymoretodays

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Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. 

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Face Everything And Rise -- I love it! I've copied it to print out and put on the wall with my inspirational stuff. 

 

I also take "down days" sometimes but I think I am finding the same thing--I'm not sure if it really helps so much. It's really hard to fight it but I think it kind of just reinforces itself. Maybe I need to find some ways to be gentle and nonstimulating but not 100% agoraphobic and isolating. Thanks for encouraging me in that.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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On 9/13/2019 at 7:09 PM, manymoretodays said:

Going to try for a revival of this thread, for those of us post zero, and wanting to share experiences after tapering to zero.

Me, I've gotta post my success story ASAP.  Because it's time.🤓  And yes, for me, I feel successful, in my own journey and adventure off. 

 

Just going to put this here today, it's on a refrigerator magnet, that I picked up at a 12 step meeting awhile back.  Author unknown.

 

F. E. A. R.

has two meanings

Forget Everything And Run

OR

Face Everything and Rise

 

The choice is yours.

 

And yah, once in awhile, I still hit partial days, or a day, of just wanting to run and/or hide and isolate.

And if I can, am free enough from responsibilities to others and myself, sometimes I WILL take a day, or a few hours to just go with the feeling.

Me, I can't afford more than a day though.  If I allow myself too long at it, the feeling, the fears, it does tend to spiral into something bigger and becomes a deeper hole, which is then much harder to climb out of.

I've found communities and relationships with other people to be perhaps, one of the most helpful things, in healing further. Oh just plain faith too.  We've got the whole Finding Meaning forum for that though.

So if I isolate, I start getting disconnected, and then that's not so good.

So that's something I've learned.

 

Many more experiences, of course.  B)

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

manymoretodays

Congrats on your getting off med. Long journey.

 

As far as Fear I choose Face Everthing And Rise

2011 protracted withdrawal symptoms from Effexor, managed to come off
2013-2015  risperidone consta 50 mg, started tapering from March 2015 to 1,66mg/day and from 02/2015 started seroxat 10mg/day

06/16 Seroxat 3mg/day, olanzapine 5mg,risperidone consta 2,5mg

09/16 Seroxat 2,7mg,olanzapine . 5mg,risperidone  consta 2,5mg

01/17 Seroxat 2,0mg,olanzapine 5mg,risperidone consta 25mg/every 15days

05/17 Seroxat 1mg,olanzapine 5mg,risp.consta 25mg/every 15days

06/17 Seroxat 2drops,olanzapine 5mg,liquid risperidone2mg

07/17 Seroxat 1 drop,olanzapine 5mg,Risperidone 0mg, 10/17 Seroxat 0mg,olanzapine,5mg,Risperidone 0mg, 12/17 Seroxat 1/2 drop, olanzapine 5mg,  04/18 Olanzapine 1,25mg, 04/18 xanax 0,5mg

24/06/2019 doc said to take 10mg olanzapine for 13days and down to 5mg
 been taking 10mg for 14 days, 5mg for 8 days  and  tapered to  3/4quart. 5mg  for 14 days, 1/2 5mg for 14 days,

01/08/19 2,5mg

Supplements Omega 3, Turmeric, Magnesium

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Would anyone be willing to provide me with examples or tell me of your experiences with  healing and signs of improvement after being completely free of SSRIs?

I am in need of some positive stories to get me through this process. 

Thank you!

 

1990's Zoloft up to 200mgs daily at one point.

100mg several times between then and now.

Most recent 11/18-7/19 50mg

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Hi Fragile

 

I've been SSRI-free since 2009.  It took me almost two years to taper off Paxil and another year to being able to manage my anxiety/OCD and regain my life. For me, there was no "I'm cured!" moment.  It was a slow process as the physical feelings of anxiety decreased and my negative thought patterns dissipated. During withdrawal, I was jealous of people who were farther along in recovery or who were getting long positive windows.  I never thought I'd get past it, but I did.  We're all different and it takes us all different times, but it will happen! 

 

I view anxiety/OCD as a chronic condition, like diabetes.  There may not be a cure, but it can be managed with the proper tools and perseverance.  You can have anxiety and lead a perfectly happy and satisfying life.

Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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Good to hear, thank you for that response. Glad to hear it. 

Yes, I assume I will always battle some mild anxiety and times of depression. I just want to get back to being able to do my job and interact with people somewhat normally again without constant nagging thoughts and paranoia and fear of full blown panic. :)

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Most recent 11/18-7/19 50mg

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May I ask what is CBT?

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I felt the same way.  Oddly enough, work was somewhat therapeutic for me.  My job demanded my attention and decreased my anxious thought patterns.  But I was also glad to get home and crawl into bed on some days!

Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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2 minutes ago, Fragile55 said:

May I ask what is CBT?

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. A therapist helps you practice thought patterns that decrease the emotional and negative reactions to physical anxious symptoms. It can take different forms; a lot of people who use it refer to CBT as a "toolbox" where you can select the best coping mechanism for whatever type of anxiety or obsessive thoughts you're dealing with. 

Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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@Fragile55

@mstimc

 

Added your recent topic Fragile, to this post zero healing topic.   Moved from introductions. 

Please see Success stories, too.  If you go to the home page you will see them, and that forum.

 

You are now in the tapering forum(just moved to symptoms and self care, with title adaptation)

 

Healing symptoms are good symptoms to focus on.

 

one way to search for pre-existing topics on-site

main browser:  type in survivingantidepressants.org followed by the topic you are thinking of starting

* and then, just a friendly reminder, only one introduction topic per member

 

Thank you,

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

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* Let's all work to keep the site we know, and love, and use, organized  B)

 

 

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clarity, whole topic moved to S and S

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. 

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Escitalopram 10mgs from mid 2007 ( can't remember exact date) to 11th Dec 2018

Fentanyl patches ( don't remember dose ) from Nov 2014 to 11 Dec 2018

Quit both cold turkey Dec 2018

Reinstated 3rd March 2019 2.5 mgs.

Updosed  8March to 5mgs and holding

25/11/19 Started taper 4.5mgs and holding

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner

If you are going through Hell, keep going. NCIS series 15, David MaCallum:rolleyes:

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I finished my 6,5 years long withdrawal in July (finished quetiapine in 2018 and now fluoxetine). I have been extremely dependent on fluoxetine, could only reduce in small quantities and each time had to hold at least 1,5 months.

 

i jumped off from 1,4mg, which is quite high for me. Safer would have been 0,4mg or 0,2mg. I did it because I found out I was pregnant.

 

the pregnancy did not work out, I had miscarriage :( a third one :( all those have been during withdrawing, so... I think my body is too weak due to withdrawals? I have had every medical test possible and everything else is fine.

 

anyway, I was ok during pregnancy and miscarriage etc. But around 4 months from jumping off I fell hard. I developed such physical fatigue that I even didn't manage to walk long distances. I couldn't manage stress either or waking up early, so I actually lost my job due to that. For several weeks after that I was only laying down. The exhaustion has been out of this world. This is even extreme for me.

 

i also have sleep disturbances and a little depression. And i still cannot work out.

 

it has gotten a little better during last weeks. But I'm scared about how long this will last. I want to have children.. and I'm 40 years old...

 

it's almost 5,5 months from jumping off at the moment. I try to remember to update in coming months.

in 2002- 0,5 tablet cipramil for half a year, ended it uneventfully. in 2006 - citalopram for half a year, ended in horrific state, ditched the drugs CT. 2007-2008 not feeling well but drug free. in 2008 prozac 20mg + quetiapine 25mg. 2009 tried to stop, ended up in hole after couple of months, started zoloft. 2009-2011 zoloft 50mg. went to 25mg in 2011 summer, it resulted in half a year horrible suffering. reinstated, changed drugs, nothing happened. by 2012 beginning suddenly felt great and CT meds. after 4 months came suddenly most horrible human suffering that's possible. was started on prozac and questiapine. started tapering slowly, GFCF diet and Hardy Nutritionals vitamins in 2013 summer. 

current medications: 1) fluoxetine and quetiapine since Aug 2012; 2) Daily Essential Nutrients by Hardy Nutritionals 7 capsules / since May 2013 + omega3; 3) Gluten-free-casein-free diet since june 2013

 

Started withdrawing slowly since april 2013. Mostly around 10% cuts. 

April'13 - March'14: fluoxetine 40mg -> 19,5mg; quetiapine 50mg -> 40mg
April'14-March'15: fluoxetine 19,5mg -> 14,4mg; quetiapine 40mg -> 22mg

April'15-March'16: fluoxetine 14,4mg -> 7,4mg; quetiapine 22mg -> 15mg

April'16-March'17: fluoxetine 7,4mg -> 5,0mg; quetiapine 15mg -> 7,25mg

April'17-March'18: fluoxetine 5,0mg -> 4,0mg; quetiapine 7,25mg -> 0 (as of 1st Feb 2018)!!!!

April´18-March´19: fluoxetine 4,0mg - > 2,3mg. Jumped off fluoxetine 1,4mg due to pregnancy in July 2019. Oct 2019 severe withdrawal syndrome started.

Took mistakenly a complex for hormonal support that included pregnenolone dec2019-april2020. Stopped it april 2020 and immediately severe akathisia started. Have had life threatening akathisia since, 100% disabled, suicidal, very hard to hold on. 

 

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