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Cuddling cats is the best.

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg

2021   29 Aug 2.4mg   15 Nov 2.3mg

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So great you had a good night's sleep..it does indeed make a big difference. I agree with Songbird...cuddling cats is heavenly.

Remeron for depression. Started at 7.5 mg. in 2005. Gradual increases over 8 years, up to 45 mg. in 2012.Began tapering in June 2013. Went from 45 to 30 mg in the first 3-4 months. Held for a couple of months.Started tapering by 3.75 mg every month or 2, with some longer holding periods. Eventually went down to 3.75 mg. about April 2014. Stopped taking Remeron August 2014. Developed issues with histamine a week after stopping--symptoms reduced through diet and a few supplements. Currently having issues with a few foods. Most of the histamine intolerance has resolved or is at least, in remission.

Current Medications:

Current Supplements: Cannabis (CBD and THC), Vitamin C, D, Quercetin, CoQ10, Tart Cherry, Probiotic, Phytoplankton oil, magnesium, Methyl B. What has helped me most: spending time in nature, qi gong, exercise, healthy diet, meditation, IV vitamins, homeopathy, massage, acupuncture, chiropractic, music, and cuddling my cats..

My introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/8459-mirtazapine-withdrawal-freespirit/#entry144282

Please note: I am not a therapist or medical practitioner. Any suggestions offered come solely from my personal experience in recovering from childhood trauma, therapy, and AD use. Please seek appropriate care for yourself.

 

“After a cruel childhood, one must reinvent oneself. Then re-imagine the world.”
Mary Oliver
 

 

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you write so beautifully & with great insight

 

wishing you better days ahead-and I love cuddling my 2 cats too! (((hugs)))

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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GREAT! Good to hear this Tilly...:)

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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It great your able to experience enjoyment :)

Thank you, LoveandLight  :)

 

I practice gratitude and keep a daily gratitude journal. I think it is important to be grateful for what we have right now. Especially in withdrawal. It's not always easy but it is a very worthwhile practice.

 

I hope that you are well.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Hi Tilly,

 

Soooo happy for you!

The wpvery well deserved window! Hope it continues for a long while!

 

Enjoy your beautiful writing! Can't imagine how much more graceful it could be if you have your 'own' brain! :)

 

Lex

Thank you Lex!  :)

 

Your support has been so much help to me through a really difficult time. I really appreciate your support and value your friendship.

 

My brain is waking up, slowly but surely. I recognise small aspects of my personality that I had forgotten, returning this week. This has been really encouraging.

 

Huge hugs to you, Lex.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Cuddling cats is the best.

I totally agree, Songbird!

 

I love their different purrs. Very therapeutic  :)

 

I hope that you are continuing to make progress.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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So great you had a good night's sleep..it does indeed make a big difference. I agree with Songbird...cuddling cats is heavenly.

Sleep really does make a big difference, freespirit. We have our own little feline appreciation society developing here. I'm all in favour!

 

Take good care and be kind to yourself.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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you write so beautifully & with great insight

 

wishing you better days ahead-and I love cuddling my 2 cats too! (((hugs)))

Firstly, welcome. Thank you so much for taking the time to pop by. I really appreciate it. Nice to 'meet you'.

 

Bless you and thank you so much, direstraits. I get so frustrated with my writing and speech as they have been hugely effected along with so many other things in withdrawal. 

 

I read your thread, direstraits. You have amazing strength and compassion and have been through significant loss. I admire and respect you so very much. I am hoping that a window happens for you soon to bring you some relief, hope and breathing space. You have much more strength than you realise and you will make it through this and out the other side.You have so much support here. Ask for what you need to see you through.

 

Be kind to yourself.

 

Huge hugs

 

Tilly x

 

PS I have 4 cats, 3 girls one boy. I am greedy where feline company is concerned  ;)  x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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GREAT! Good to hear this Tilly... :)

Ikam,

 

Your support has been instrumental in me getting back on track with my taper. I really appreciate your support and value your friendship so much. Thank you!

 

We will support each other through this and come out the other side!  ;)

 

Huge hugs

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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thanks so much for your lovely,supportive post;I really appreciate this;

 

I'm so grateful to all the wonderful people on this site who are there for me;its been a blessing

 

you've been through a lot too,Tilly-sorry for your suffering;you're very strong.

 

let's all get through this together xoxo

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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Update

 

It was my first day on 3.5mg yesterday. It was such a beautiful day!

 

Tiredness hit me in the afternoon, but I felt quite stimulated later in the afternoon / evening. I could not lie down to sleep as my mind and body was active / restless, required movement and stimulation and or distraction.

 

I have experienced this excess energy / restlessness at intervals over many years during what I know believe to be tolerance withdrawal. I used to liken this mood to mania (not as in a diagnosed form, I have never been formally diagnosed with anything. This is a way of self explaining an excess of energy)

 

I read a few things today (not too much as it is not helpful and I can't sit still for long enough) to believe that this recurrent phase is akathisia. I learned something new today. I pottered my way through the night. I have been up for almost 37 hours and I'm still moderately restless yet very physically and mentally tired.

 

When mild I can partake in creative pursuits, but cannot stay focused on one task for any length of time and have several tasks ongoing which I flit back and forward from.

 

Today creative tasks were not a possibility, so I browsed on line and paced at regular intervals. Stretched, shook out my muscles and did silly things like sing a stupid song to my partner or do my 'chicken dance' (don't ask!) which results in us laughing and relieving the tension of my need for ongoing movement. I hesitate to post as this all sounds so bizarre, but it relieves the stress of the situation.

 

My itching is also back (I know, attractive) this symptom presents with every increase and decrease since I started escitalopram. Tonight I am scratching myself raw, although trying to avoid scratching.  I have always been vigilant to watch out for a rash, but none is ever present. Does anyone else experience this? Is it possibly histamine related? If so, I would happily adjust my diet if this would minimise this symptom.

 

Apart from the fact that I can't sit still and I am constantly scratching and have not slept, I feel fine in myself emotionally :) I have had fearful  and anxious emotions (neuro-emotions?) arise at regular intervals throughout the day relating to many different things, but have been able to rationalise them as part of my withdrawal and lack of sleep. I have felt that it is very positive that I am able to do so.

 

I have also felt incredible love today for my partner, cats and the nature that surrounds me. I fed the ducklings today. They have depleted from 12 to 8 in the last four days. This made me so sad, but more vigilant about caring for those that remain as I cannot change the course of nature.  I cried today, but out of happiness arising from a supportive message. My emotions fluctuate throughout the day, but there is balance. So all is well.

 

This community is so important to the recovery of us all. The more that I read, the more that I find strength, courage and a community of people that I am so happy to be a part of.

 

Night night & rest well all.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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thanks so much for your lovely,supportive post;I really appreciate this;

 

I'm so grateful to all the wonderful people on this site who are there for me;its been a blessing

 

you've been through a lot too,Tilly-sorry for your suffering;you're very strong.

 

let's all get through this together xoxo

You deserve support, you have had to cope with so much for so long. Now is your time for your healing. This is the priority right now. The top of your list every day.

 

This site is a blessing to me too, more than I ever believed it could be when I joined.

 

Thank you for your empathy. I really appreciate it. Pain can bring many losses, but also powerful and positive transformation. I believe that and have experienced it throughout my life.

 

Patience, understanding and mutual support will see us through here. You will be supported through every step of your journey.

 

Hugs, love & healing to you.

 

Tilly xxx

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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thank you...and I just have to say how sorry I was that youwere attacked like that for trying to be of some help-it really angered me-take care x

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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thank you...and I just have to say how sorry I was that youwere attacked like that for trying to be of some help-it really angered me-take care x

Your compassion is wonderful. Thank you. You can only help people when they are ready to accept help. There is a saying that criticism says more about the critic than the criticised. I believe that there is truth in this. I am fine. But your concern is very much appreciated. Thank you so much.

 

Be kind to yourself . I look forward to following your progress.

 

Speak soon.

 

Night, night x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Hi Tilly,

 

I've got 3 cats and two dogs.  They each play a role in my wellbeing.  I'm besotted with the youngest of the dogs/cats because they love to cuddle and play.  They are both real characters!

 

May the sleep fairy bless you with a visit

 

Dalsaan xx

Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.

Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.

Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.

Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.

Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).

Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

 

DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017

 

>My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan

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My itching is also back (I know, attractive) this symptom presents with every increase and decrease since I started escitalopram. Tonight I am scratching myself raw, although trying to avoid scratching.  I have always been vigilant to watch out for a rash, but none is ever present. Does anyone else experience this? Is it possibly histamine related? If so, I would happily adjust my diet if this would minimise this symptom.

 

Hi Tilly,

 

That was one of the symptoms I had with histamine sensitivity. No rash, but terrible itching..also insomnia and a very high degree of restlessness. I read on 1 site that Lexapro is one of the drugs which can be related to histamine problems.

 

Perhaps it would be worth looking at the diet and maybe reducing some of the higher histamine foods and see if it makes a difference...it wasn't instantaneous for me..took some tweaking of what I could or couldn't eat, but many of the symptoms disappeared or got better from changing diet.

Remeron for depression. Started at 7.5 mg. in 2005. Gradual increases over 8 years, up to 45 mg. in 2012.Began tapering in June 2013. Went from 45 to 30 mg in the first 3-4 months. Held for a couple of months.Started tapering by 3.75 mg every month or 2, with some longer holding periods. Eventually went down to 3.75 mg. about April 2014. Stopped taking Remeron August 2014. Developed issues with histamine a week after stopping--symptoms reduced through diet and a few supplements. Currently having issues with a few foods. Most of the histamine intolerance has resolved or is at least, in remission.

Current Medications:

Current Supplements: Cannabis (CBD and THC), Vitamin C, D, Quercetin, CoQ10, Tart Cherry, Probiotic, Phytoplankton oil, magnesium, Methyl B. What has helped me most: spending time in nature, qi gong, exercise, healthy diet, meditation, IV vitamins, homeopathy, massage, acupuncture, chiropractic, music, and cuddling my cats..

My introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/8459-mirtazapine-withdrawal-freespirit/#entry144282

Please note: I am not a therapist or medical practitioner. Any suggestions offered come solely from my personal experience in recovering from childhood trauma, therapy, and AD use. Please seek appropriate care for yourself.

 

“After a cruel childhood, one must reinvent oneself. Then re-imagine the world.”
Mary Oliver
 

 

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Hi Tilly,

 

I've got 3 cats and two dogs.  They each play a role in my wellbeing.  I'm besotted with the youngest of the dogs/cats because they love to cuddle and play.  They are both real characters!

 

May the sleep fairy bless you with a visit

 

Dalsaan xx

Hi Dalsaan,

 

Lovely to hear from you as always!

 

All of my cats have very different personalities, but they are all very loving and tactile. They play a huge part in my well being as does nature. I've been considering fostering dogs from a local shelter while they are waiting for permanent homes once my health is more stable and I can get out to walk them. I think that I could provide good care for them and they would be therapeutic in terms of helping me to overcome my agoraphobia by taking them out for daily exercise and walks. The only danger being, I would end up with 4 dogs as well!  ;)

 

I am glad that you have a lovely family of animals too  :)

 

I hope that you are faring well.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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My itching is also back (I know, attractive) this symptom presents with every increase and decrease since I started escitalopram. Tonight I am scratching myself raw, although trying to avoid scratching.  I have always been vigilant to watch out for a rash, but none is ever present. Does anyone else experience this? Is it possibly histamine related? If so, I would happily adjust my diet if this would minimise this symptom.

 

Hi Tilly,

 

That was one of the symptoms I had with histamine sensitivity. No rash, but terrible itching..also insomnia and a very high degree of restlessness. I read on 1 site that Lexapro is one of the drugs which can be related to histamine problems.

 

Perhaps it would be worth looking at the diet and maybe reducing some of the higher histamine foods and see if it makes a difference...it wasn't instantaneous for me..took some tweaking of what I could or couldn't eat, but many of the symptoms disappeared or got better from changing diet.

 

Hi freespirit,

 

Thank you for your helpful input. I will look into histamine foods and eliminate them from my diet for a few months and see if this alleviates any symptoms. 

 

I hope that your day is kind to you.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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I managed to sleep for around 11 hours. I have woken feeling tired and restless and my concentration is poor.

 

I will try to do some sewing today to improve my concentration and focus and see how I fare with it. I have a set of curtains to finish making and lining to make for them. When I'm able to, spending time concentrating on measuring fabric, pattern matching and sewing it can help to distract me from symptoms, improve my focus and makes me feel that I have achieved something with my day.

 

I hope that all who are reading have a peaceful day today.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Hey Tilley, Just touching base. Thank you so much for your support.   Every Time you talk about the "ducklings", you make me cry.    You are a very kind person. You can be forceful at times, but still, at the end of the day , a "Kitten".     Take Care.    Ali.  

Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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Tiredness hit me in the afternoon, but I felt quite stimulated later in the afternoon / evening. I could not lie down to sleep as my mind and body was active / restless, required movement and stimulation and or distraction.

 

I have experienced this excess energy / restlessness at intervals over many years during what I know believe to be tolerance withdrawal. I used to liken this mood to mania (not as in a diagnosed form, I have never been formally diagnosed with anything. This is a way of self explaining an excess of energy)

 

I read a few things today (not too much as it is not helpful and I can't sit still for long enough) to believe that this recurrent phase is akathisia. I learned something new today. I pottered my way through the night. I have been up for almost 37 hours and I'm still moderately restless yet very physically and mentally tired.

 

When mild I can partake in creative pursuits, but cannot stay focused on one task for any length of time and have several tasks ongoing which I flit back and forward from.

 

 

Hello Tilly,

 

I was away for some time because I was so busy at work but I did ocassionaly check in and I saw how badly you were struggling recently. I was also thinking of sending you my Escitalopram because I can access it easily and my GP is full of understanding. But then I saw that other people were reacting in the same way and that you were well supported and it was so very nice to see that! If it happens that you get into similar situation ever again, let us know. 

 

I am also impressed with the way you asserted your rights even in the difficult situation you found yourself in. I'm very happy to see things have slowly started improving for you. I always find a lot of similarities with myself when you describe your symptoms. I also have itching sometimes but it never ocurred to me to connect it with Escitalopram. It's not drastic so I can cope with it but it's comforting to realise it's also part of the "package deal" with Escitalopram...

 

What I have quoted here is a great description of how I function. I struggle so badly at work all the time and most of the time don't know how I manage at all. But I do somehow. I constantly have multiple tabs open and move from one to the other. I somehow accepted it as the way things just have to be but now I started imaging a different reality when I'm off Escitalopram one day and maybe this disappears.. What a wonderful world that would be.... Still, I always tell myself I'm lucky I don't experience panic, I can sleep reasonably well, I can move around and frequently even enjoy thigs, etc. so this significant fatigue and restlessness that actually limit my functioning and change who I am (was/could be) to a great extent are seen only as minor inconveniences...

 

I liked your descriptions of spring as well ;)

 

 Hugs,

Bubble

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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I managed to sleep for around 11 hours. I have woken feeling tired and restless and my concentration is poor.

 

I will try to do some sewing today to improve my concentration and focus and see how I fare with it. I have a set of curtains to finish making and lining to make for them. When I'm able to, spending time concentrating on measuring fabric, pattern matching and sewing it can help to distract me from symptoms, improve my focus and makes me feel that I have achieved something with my day.

 

I hope that all who are reading have a peaceful day today.

 

Tilly x

Hope the curtains are coming on ok Tilly, you will feel such a sense of accomplishment when they are hanging at the window. A few days ago I stitched a button onto a jacket and was ecstatic because I'd done it!   :)

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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My itching is also back (I know, attractive) this symptom presents with every increase and decrease since I started escitalopram. Tonight I am scratching myself raw, although trying to avoid scratching.  I have always been vigilant to watch out for a rash, but none is ever present. Does anyone else experience this? Is it possibly histamine related? If so, I would happily adjust my diet if this would minimise this symptom.

 

Hi Tilly,

 

That was one of the symptoms I had with histamine sensitivity. No rash, but terrible itching..also insomnia and a very high degree of restlessness. I read on 1 site that Lexapro is one of the drugs which can be related to histamine problems.

 

Perhaps it would be worth looking at the diet and maybe reducing some of the higher histamine foods and see if it makes a difference...it wasn't instantaneous for me..took some tweaking of what I could or couldn't eat, but many of the symptoms disappeared or got better from changing diet.

 

Hi freespirit,

 

Thank you for your helpful input. I will look into histamine foods and eliminate them from my diet for a few months and see if this alleviates any symptoms. 

 

I hope that your day is kind to you.

 

Tilly x

 

 

Tilly,

 

You will of course, find your own way with this. Ultimately, we need to trust our own bodies and instincts above anything else in my opinion. I was suffering on every front from the histamine--physically and emotionally. I changed my diet drastically, which may or may not have been the best thing.

 

I found a lot of help through reading on here http://beyondmeds.com/?s=histamine+intolerancebecause she writes from the perspective of coming off psych meds, not just about histamine in general. The piece about dealing with a disregulated nervous system is likely different than for some people dealing with histamine.

 

You will also find as you read that people say opposing things about what does or doesn't increase histamine in the body. There's a lot of variation on what each person can eat. I had to stop taking fish oil, but some people can continue with it. It was the last main thing I did that eased the symptoms. But you'll have to see for yourself.

 

I got pretty stressed at first about what I could or couldn't eat..compounded by the fact I have diabetes, which imposes it's own difficulties. But stressing didn't help of course. I hope you can find ways to improve things and still be gentle with yourself.

Remeron for depression. Started at 7.5 mg. in 2005. Gradual increases over 8 years, up to 45 mg. in 2012.Began tapering in June 2013. Went from 45 to 30 mg in the first 3-4 months. Held for a couple of months.Started tapering by 3.75 mg every month or 2, with some longer holding periods. Eventually went down to 3.75 mg. about April 2014. Stopped taking Remeron August 2014. Developed issues with histamine a week after stopping--symptoms reduced through diet and a few supplements. Currently having issues with a few foods. Most of the histamine intolerance has resolved or is at least, in remission.

Current Medications:

Current Supplements: Cannabis (CBD and THC), Vitamin C, D, Quercetin, CoQ10, Tart Cherry, Probiotic, Phytoplankton oil, magnesium, Methyl B. What has helped me most: spending time in nature, qi gong, exercise, healthy diet, meditation, IV vitamins, homeopathy, massage, acupuncture, chiropractic, music, and cuddling my cats..

My introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/8459-mirtazapine-withdrawal-freespirit/#entry144282

Please note: I am not a therapist or medical practitioner. Any suggestions offered come solely from my personal experience in recovering from childhood trauma, therapy, and AD use. Please seek appropriate care for yourself.

 

“After a cruel childhood, one must reinvent oneself. Then re-imagine the world.”
Mary Oliver
 

 

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GREAT! Good to hear this Tilly... :)

Ikam,

 

Your support has been instrumental in me getting back on track with my taper. I really appreciate your support and value your friendship so much. Thank you!

 

We will support each other through this and come out the other side!  ;)

 

Huge hugs

 

Tilly x

 

I am really happy that I was able to support you.

Yes, we will support each other :)

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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Hi Tilly,

 

It made me smile thinking your singling and dancing! I almost asked if you did not warm me immedately :)

 

Hope the reaction to the recent dose increase calms down soon and provide stability for further tapering.

 

I am glad at least you got good number of sleep. Its funny this lexapro can make me sleep a lot either increase or decrease within my change range (2.5--4.5), if I can wake up naturally with 7-8 hour sleep, it mean i have the proper amount of the med and asign of somewhat stabalization.

 

 

You take care,

Lex

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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Tiredness hit me in the afternoon, but I felt quite stimulated later in the afternoon / evening. I could not lie down to sleep as my mind and body was active / restless, required movement and stimulation and or distraction.

 

I have experienced this excess energy / restlessness at intervals over many years during what I know believe to be tolerance withdrawal. I used to liken this mood to mania (not as in a diagnosed form, I have never been formally diagnosed with anything. This is a way of self explaining an excess of energy)

 

I read a few things today (not too much as it is not helpful and I can't sit still for long enough) to believe that this recurrent phase is akathisia. I learned something new today. I pottered my way through the night. I have been up for almost 37 hours and I'm still moderately restless yet very physically and mentally tired.

 

When mild I can partake in creative pursuits, but cannot stay focused on one task for any length of time and have several tasks ongoing which I flit back and forward from.

 

 

Hello Tilly,

 

I was away for some time because I was so busy at work but I did ocassionaly check in and I saw how badly you were struggling recently. I was also thinking of sending you my Escitalopram because I can access it easily and my GP is full of understanding. But then I saw that other people were reacting in the same way and that you were well supported and it was so very nice to see that! If it happens that you get into similar situation ever again, let us know. 

 

I am also impressed with the way you asserted your rights even in the difficult situation you found yourself in. I'm very happy to see things have slowly started improving for you. I always find a lot of similarities with myself when you describe your symptoms. I also have itching sometimes but it never ocurred to me to connect it with Escitalopram. It's not drastic so I can cope with it but it's comforting to realise it's also part of the "package deal" with Escitalopram...

 

What I have quoted here is a great description of how I function. I struggle so badly at work all the time and most of the time don't know how I manage at all. But I do somehow. I constantly have multiple tabs open and move from one to the other. I somehow accepted it as the way things just have to be but now I started imaging a different reality when I'm off Escitalopram one day and maybe this disappears.. What a wonderful world that would be.... Still, I always tell myself I'm lucky I don't experience panic, I can sleep reasonably well, I can move around and frequently even enjoy thigs, etc. so this significant fatigue and restlessness that actually limit my functioning and change who I am (was/could be) to a great extent are seen only as minor inconveniences...

 

I liked your descriptions of spring as well ;)

 

 Hugs,

Bubble

 

Hello Bubble,

 

So lovely to hear from you!  Thank you so much for your kindness and for taking the time to post. I really appreciate it.

 

I was quite amazed at the kind offers of help and the support that I have received in recent weeks. It has been both heart warming and instrumental on a practical level in getting my taper back on track. I am so grateful.

 

It was also of great comfort to me to read your post and hear from you that there are symptoms and behaviours that seem to arise as a consequence of escitalopram. Not that I would wish these on anyone, but it affirms that they are drug induced and gives hope that as such, they are temporary and will pass with time for all of us.

 

I have found that during my taper, the symptoms that I experience upon reduction (and up dosing) mirrors the symptoms that I experienced upon start up. Some new symptoms may also arise just to keep you on your toes! However for the most part, there is a pattern. When I was stabilising on 5mg after 5 months, these symptoms had started to dissipate.  Not just the physical symptoms, but the anxiety and agoraphobic symptoms too. I have always been an outdoor person and highly sociable and the urges and motivation to get out and interact were returning. I now believe that the agoraphobia that I have suffered for 4 years is also drug induced. Although my GP has jeopardised my recovery by  withdrawing medication from me too quickly, this is an interruption, not an end to my progress. I have seen a glimmer of what my life will look like beyond withdrawal and I liked it very much. I am holding on tightly to that and it is spurring me on.

 

I love spring and summer. But especially spring as this is when nature awakens and comes to life again. I love to watch it and be a part of it. I delights and energises me  :)

 

Thank you so much for writing. I found your post to be very affirming, not to mention full of kindness. Your progress will continue, Bubble. Maybe you will notice one day that you only have 2 tabs open instead of 22. Then it will 'click' that progress has been made  ;)

 

I wish you the best of everything. 

 

Hugs,

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Hey Tilley, Just touching base. Thank you so much for your support.   Every Time you talk about the "ducklings", you make me cry.    You are a very kind person. You can be forceful at times, but still, at the end of the day , a "Kitten".     Take Care.    Ali.  

Hi Ali,

 

I posted on your thread at the same time you posted on mine. Great minds, eh?  ;)

 

Ah, those ducklings are so adorable. They warm my heart. They continue to thrive as a group of 8  :)

 

Take care, Ali.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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It is very moving to read you have glimpsed what life will be like for you after WD :)

2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare!

 

On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect.

 

Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan.

 

 

Nightmare that could have been avoided!

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My itching is also back (I know, attractive) this symptom presents with every increase and decrease since I started escitalopram. Tonight I am scratching myself raw, although trying to avoid scratching.  I have always been vigilant to watch out for a rash, but none is ever present. Does anyone else experience this? Is it possibly histamine related? If so, I would happily adjust my diet if this would minimise this symptom.

 

Hi Tilly,

 

That was one of the symptoms I had with histamine sensitivity. No rash, but terrible itching..also insomnia and a very high degree of restlessness. I read on 1 site that Lexapro is one of the drugs which can be related to histamine problems.

 

Perhaps it would be worth looking at the diet and maybe reducing some of the higher histamine foods and see if it makes a difference...it wasn't instantaneous for me..took some tweaking of what I could or couldn't eat, but many of the symptoms disappeared or got better from changing diet.

 

Hi freespirit,

 

Thank you for your helpful input. I will look into histamine foods and eliminate them from my diet for a few months and see if this alleviates any symptoms. 

 

I hope that your day is kind to you.

 

Tilly x

 

 

Tilly,

 

You will of course, find your own way with this. Ultimately, we need to trust our own bodies and instincts above anything else in my opinion. I was suffering on every front from the histamine--physically and emotionally. I changed my diet drastically, which may or may not have been the best thing.

 

I found a lot of help through reading on here http://beyondmeds.com/?s=histamine+intolerancebecause she writes from the perspective of coming off psych meds, not just about histamine in general. The piece about dealing with a disregulated nervous system is likely different than for some people dealing with histamine.

 

You will also find as you read that people say opposing things about what does or doesn't increase histamine in the body. There's a lot of variation on what each person can eat. I had to stop taking fish oil, but some people can continue with it. It was the last main thing I did that eased the symptoms. But you'll have to see for yourself.

 

I got pretty stressed at first about what I could or couldn't eat..compounded by the fact I have diabetes, which imposes it's own difficulties. But stressing didn't help of course. I hope you can find ways to improve things and still be gentle with yourself.

 

Hi freespirit,

 

Thank you for your feedback. I will sift through the information and consider it before making any changes. Thank you for the link. I think that I have read this article in the past, but your reminder will serve me well as a starting point.

 

My diet is very pared down currently due to gastric disturbance and symptomatic reactions to foods during withdrawal up to this point. I tend to eliminate one item at a time as a test, then proceed to the next as we are all so different in our reactions.

 

Take good care.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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GREAT! Good to hear this Tilly... :)

Ikam,

 

Your support has been instrumental in me getting back on track with my taper. I really appreciate your support and value your friendship so much. Thank you!

 

We will support each other through this and come out the other side!  ;)

 

Huge hugs

 

Tilly x

 

I am really happy that I was able to support you.

Yes, we will support each other :)

 

You have been such a great support to me, Ikam. Thank you so very much.

 

We will see each other through this.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Hi Tilly,

 

It made me smile thinking your singling and dancing! I almost asked if you did not warm me immedately :)

 

Hope the reaction to the recent dose increase calms down soon and provide stability for further tapering.

 

I am glad at least you got good number of sleep. Its funny this lexapro can make me sleep a lot either increase or decrease within my change range (2.5--4.5), if I can wake up naturally with 7-8 hour sleep, it mean i have the proper amount of the med and asign of somewhat stabalization.

 

 

You take care,

Lex

Hi Lex!  :)

 

I make up silly dances to stretch my muscles and shake out excess energy and one of them is my 'chicken dance' where I flap my arms and bend my legs at the same time. I love dancing, especially salsa, but the 'chicken dance' is not at all graceful! It relieves tension and makes me and my partner laugh. He used to get so concerned watching me become distressed by my agitation, so it is a way of relieving stress for us both  :D

 

You are so right about lexapro and sleep. I can sleep for hours or not at all. The length and quality of my sleep is a good indicator of stabilising. I need 8 hours to feel at my best. I slept for around 8 hours fitfully last night, so I am moving in the right direction.

 

I hope that your day is kind to you, Lex.

 

Hugs,

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Update

 

I managed to sleep for around 11 hours. I have woken feeling tired and restless and my concentration is poor.

 

I will try to do some sewing today to improve my concentration and focus and see how I fare with it. I have a set of curtains to finish making and lining to make for them. When I'm able to, spending time concentrating on measuring fabric, pattern matching and sewing it can help to distract me from symptoms, improve my focus and makes me feel that I have achieved something with my day.

 

I hope that all who are reading have a peaceful day today.

 

Tilly x

Hope the curtains are coming on ok Tilly, you will feel such a sense of accomplishment when they are hanging at the window. A few days ago I stitched a button onto a jacket and was ecstatic because I'd done it!   :)

 

Hi Mamma,

 

Lovely to have you here!

 

I made 6 curtains last month when I was more stable. I have 2 to go, then the lining. I did not do any sewing yesterday as I could not maintain enough concentration. However, you are so right! When I made my curtains last month I worked with a damask pattern. I have never made patterned curtains before, but I matched the pattern perfectly and felt such a sense of accomplishment.

 

Good for you and your button sewing! These tasks and the sense of achievement that they bring are so helpful to the withdrawal process.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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It is very moving to read you have glimpsed what life will be like for you after WD :)

Thank you, LoveandLight.

 

I believe that this is one of the biggest motivators that I have had. It is so hard when you are in the throes of withdrawal to imagine that life will be any different. These windows and glimpses of what can and will be can really change your beliefs and give you hope for what is to come.

 

I hope that you are well? Be kind to yourself.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Hi Tilly,

 

Glad you are feeling better overall! You are so right that even a tiny improvement can provide us with more strength, hope and encouragement to continue!

 

You have such wisdom in all aspects! My prayer to your continuous healing!

Hugs

Lex

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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Hello Lex  :)

 

I can see good things are coming and already starting to happen. This really does help me to push through the worst of the symptoms right now. The only thing certain in life is change. I feel certain that positive changes will come. I am enjoying feeling this way as it will buffer me through the tougher days that are also bound to come as part of this process.

 

Your support and friendship is of such comfort to me, not to mention a joy and gives me strength. Thank you so much! 

 

I am also willing on your healing which I hope will start to become much smoother very soon.

 

Hugs right back to you, Lex.

 

Tilly x

1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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