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Martina23

Please i kindly ask you to advice.

 

 

After caesarian delivery I got Lyrica 100mg for pain. I was on it 1,5 year. Now I wanted to withdraw and all hell broke loose. I have obsessive thoughts about harming myself and others (never were there before), intrusive thoughs of someone running with the knife, thoughts /urges to kill myself or other, hallucinations when I Close my eyes in the bad about bad things (yesterday I had in my dream a cancer) already for two months, and my doctor thinks this is Depression and wants to up Lyrica and give some antidepresant to it. I do not know what to do. I do not want medicaments, but I am afraid I might lose my mind and really hurt someone. What is this for a medication? How can this do to me? I was always normal. I have Little chicldren, I am single mom. I want only to die. Please tell me what to do, or I will go crazy. The best possibility would be only to die. How can I come from this away? I am afraid my brain is totally destroyed.

 

 

 

 

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Brandy

Welcome, Martina,

 

I am so sorry you are experiencing this.

 

The symptoms you describe are all familiar to many of us. This WILL get better, You do NOT have to die. (Feeling that you do is a symptom itself, and a surprisingly common one.)

 

When did you stop the Lyrica? Did you taper it gradually (stopping a little at a time) or did you just stop taking it?

 

And did you start taking the Lyrica again when you started getting these withdrawal symptoms? Are you taking any other medications, or nutritional supplements or herbs?

 

I know it's hard to answer a lot of questions when you feel like you do, but they are important so we can give you the best advice in healing from this problem.

 

You are not going crazy, and this really will get better!

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ten0275

 

I was always normal.

 

You still are normal, Martina23. The intrusive/compulsive thoughts you are having are a very horrible symptom - they were my worst. Unfortunately, the subjects of these thoughts tend to be things that are terrifying and abhorrent to you - as you have described. The fact that you are bothered by the thoughts is very good - if you were not troubled by the thoughts, did not know they were wrong, that would be an issue. These are thoughts and images that go against who you know yourself to be. They are a symptom.

 

Brandy asked you some very good questions that would be helpful for the community in understanding your current position. It would be helpful for you to list your drug history in the signature area of your profile as well if you can.

 

I am certain that a moderator will be a long soon to formally welcome you to the site and give you some words.

 

The thoughts, while terrifying, are not harmful. They are thoughts after all. And in time, they do stop. I know how painful they are. They were my worst symptom and after many months, they began to fade. Now they are gone.

 

If you did not have these thoughts prior to withdrawal, you will likely not have them after your nervous system regains its balance.

 

Hang in there.

 

Dave

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Martina23

Hi, I am so happy that someone answered me. I took only 100 mg of Lyrica daily for 1,5 year. All the psychiater say that because of These symptoms I should go back on the whole Lyrica and take an additional antidepressant. It is true, first I stopped after one week (one week 50 and then stop) but everybody told me I should up at 50. I did, but it did not go away and the psychiatrist told I should up at 100 mg of Lyrica + antidepressant. I do not know what to do, (it is two months now) should I take more or continue at 50 mg like now ?

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Babs

I would reinstate to 100mg and wait to feel more stable, and then do a nice slow taper off.  Don't listen to that nonsense about needing an antidepressant.  Lyrica is often used as a "booster" to take with an antidepressant here, but seems to be prescribed for a number of things.  There is a topic here with tips on how to taper from Lyrica:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2381-tips-for-tapering-off-lyrica-pregabalin/

 

Just remember, this isn't you, it's the drug, and you will get through this.

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dignan

It sounds similar to my experience with Lyrica withdrawal. I had the urge to harm myself and others when I tapered Lyrica too quickly. It was very frightening. I ended up re-instating somewhat, let some time pass, and the withdrawal symptoms passed. Now I taper much more slowly.

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dalsaan

How long were you on 0 for before going back onto 50? And did the thoughts start when you were on 0 or after you had reinstated? Sorry, just trying to understand your situation in full

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Altostrata

Welcome, Martina.

 

It's possible that 50mg Lyrica will relieve the withdrawal symptoms. I would try this for a week or two to see if it is enough.

 

I would not add an antidepressant, that will only confuse your nervous system more.

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Brandy

Hi, I am so happy that someone answered me. I took only 100 mg of Lyrica daily for 1,5 year. All the psychiater say that because of These symptoms I should go back on the whole Lyrica and take an additional antidepressant. It is true, first I stopped after one week (one week 50 and then stop) but everybody told me I should up at 50. I did, but it did not go away and the psychiatrist told I should up at 100 mg of Lyrica + antidepressant. I do not know what to do, (it is two months now) should I take more or continue at 50 mg like now ?

 

Hello again, Martina,

 

I just want to clarify. When you said this:

 

... everybody told me I should up at 50. I did, but it did not go away and the psychiatrist told I should up at 100 mg of Lyrica + antidepressant. I do not know what to do, (it is two months now) should I take more or continue at 50 mg like now ?

 

... does that mean you went back on 50 two months ago and are still at that dose? Or did you go back on 50 more recently?

 

That answer will help us to help you.

 

I also forgot to mention earlier that you do not need to be concerned that your brain is destroyed, like you said in your first post. So many of us have felt that way and are fine now. Our brains were not destroyed! It felt like it, but that is not the reality.

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Martina23

In November I went like, one week reduction to 50/day (prior I was on 100), and then the next week reduction to 0.

 

Three weeks after I was cutting the cake to small pieces to children and it started, I had this feeling that I am afraid that I might hurt the children. I was able to hold on (not taking Lyrica) for two weeks and then went to one psychiatrist, who told me to reinstate to 50 mg/day. Till now I was on 50 mg a day for 5 weeks, but these thoughts and urges to harm someone are still there. I feel so crazy.

 

 

Dignan, how long did it take these symptoms went away? After 5 weeks on 50 mg, I still have them, is it normal?

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Frustrated

So very sorry you are suffering the horrid thoughts.  I have them as well.  It is part of the withdrawals.  They come and go for me and they are extremely scary.  I keep trying to tell myself that they are only thoughts and then try to let them go and carry on but it is hard.  I hope they pass for you very soon.

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Brandy

Martina, again please forgive my asking so many questions.

 

1. Are the frightening thoughts worse or better since you went back to taking 50? (Any change at all - even a little?)

 

2. And do you think you might act on these thoughts? (Do you think you might actually harm your children or yourself?) Or are they frightening thoughts that come into your mind but you wouldn't do them? (Such thoughts are very common in withdrawal, as Frustrated said.)

 

Please know that we understand about these thoughts and many of us have had them. We care about you very much.

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Martina23

I think, more me than the children, I think with rational mind I would not do anything to anyone, i am only afraid that i will lose control or the rational mind would not be there if i need it

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Altostrata

martina, other than these bad thoughts, do you have any other odd feelings?

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Martina23

Yes, for example when I close my eyes before sleeping and I imagine the faces of some of my friends, they look other, distorted as their caricatur I am anxious, depressed.

 

I landed now in the hospital as my friends wanted that i am treated. And all the doctors say thete is no lyrica discontinuation syndrom, maybe only for two days little problems. I know that my problems come from lyrica. They want to give me medication 3 pieces for depression.i do not know if i should not go home and wait until these issues would be solved from body by himself. Because i did not want any medication

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ten0275

Martina, hello.

 

I am sorry you ended up in the hospital. Please check in at some point and let us know what happened.

Hang in there.

 

Dave

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Altostrata

Martina, did they give you any Lyrica?

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Martina23

I made with them an appointment that they will give me 50 mg per day, I am trying to keep it. They prescribed me much more medicaments, but occassionaly (actually very often) I just dont take it. I cannot say I feel bad, it comes me only that my brain made on other point balance during the medicaments which now doesnt fit. I wonder it it already recognized it and if it solves also. I dont feel any difference only that I started to come with my memories into the time when I was a child. Yesterday evening quite a lot. At once there came me memories when I was 14-22. I thought I totally forgot it. It was actually a nice time. Yesterday I felt in hospital so lonely but today there was snowing here so it is actually very nice.

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mammaP

Hello Martina, can you tell us what it is that you have taken at the hospital sometimes? I'm glad that today is a good

day for you and I hope that you continue to get better.  

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Martina23

They give me 50 mg of lyrica, anafranil 75 mg, and at noon and evening a lot of seroquell (i do not know how many mg)

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btdt

Could you please ask how many mg and post back the amount so the Mods know exactly what you are taking... thanks. 

I wish you peace

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Martina23

I take only 50 mg lyrica per day, but i can ask what they are trying to give me daily. I am already so much looking when i would be at home from hospital. I should tomorrow call my boss because my absence of work, it is so unconfortable to me as i do not know what to tell her, it is so stupid to tell her that i am on the psychiatry

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btdt

From Muddles thread:

"The lyrica is my first medicine, i got it for PGAD 1,5 years ago. Here they want to give me for withdrawal "depression" additionally anafranil and seroquel, on the beginning i took some for ca 5 days, now for last 4 days i took only my stable dosis of lyrica 50 and other medicines went to the toilet "

 

Could you please tell me why you had PCAD was it from taking a previous drug?  

 

It is difficult to understand what your up against without all of your drug history. It truly would be helpful to add everything and all drug use is important to add not just the last few years as all drug use adds to the understanding of where you are right now. 

Please update your profile to add a complete drug history. 

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Martina23

I will update it but now in the hospital i have only my mobile phone and there i do not see this button on updating signature. I did not get PGAD from any medicine, i got after caesarian delivery (after birth of my children), i think they either destroyed me there some important nerves or it was hormonal.

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mammaP

You are only taking the lyrica 50mg now? I am so glad that you are safe and feeling a little bit better. 

 

Keep posting here for us so we know how you are doing. Hugs from MammaP

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Martina23

I keep taking only 50 mg. The doctors think I take much more and again today they wanted to updose. Yesterday it was much better with the obsessive thoughts, i had only 2-3, normally i have 100 per day. Before meds i did not even know that something like this exists. I have a new symptom,iwanted to ask all if someone has it. It was last two days. I mean, directly before falling asleep when i close my eyes there come such pictures as if it was a nightmare: i know that it is not real, just an imagination. Yesterday i saw there a skull and then such bugs were running to me(i really believe it comes from this film mummy), i know all the time it is not real but it comes. Does anyone have something like this?

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Martina23

I think these pictures are there only to scare me

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dalsaan

I'm glad your thoughts have settled. I don't know about the pictures but keep saying to yourself that they're not real.

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Martina23

In the hospital they again proposed me to updose the medicaments. I think with this they want to give me they would anestetize even the ox!

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cymbaltawithdrawal5600

I will update it but now in the hospital i have only my mobile phone and there i do not see this button on updating signature.

 

please see this and this post for the instructions on how to enter a signature. Please note that to do it on a phone you must be able to view the site in 'full version'. Instructions are in the first link.

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Martina23

This Friday I will be alteady let out from the hospital. I can imagine next week I will already start to go to the work and taking care of the children and the whole household. I feel that my brain is still very slow in reacting to changes and needs much more calm enviroments. I am quite worried if i can manage all the things with "broken" brain (i know it is not broken, but it feels like).

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Petunia

 I feel that my brain is still very slow in reacting to changes and needs much more calm enviroments. I am quite worried if i can manage all the things with "broken" brain (i know it is not broken, but it feels like).

 

This might be true, you may need more time to recover, is there someone who can help you at home after you leave the hospital?

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Martina23

I have an au-pair. And for a few weekends I can go to friends. I hope in some way it will go. I will try to find some moments where i could meditate and calm myself down if it would be too stressy. Maybe this could help. Anyway, thank you for asking.

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Skylarblue75

Hi Martina, thank you for stopping by my thread, it seems like your going through a rough time yourself.  I hope your doing well, keep posting about your progress. Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers

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Pugknows

Martina, I am so sorry you are suffering. I CT'd gabapentin, which is Lyrica's less potent older brother, November 8 2014, after botched up and down taper in August. I have suffered similar psychological issues as you have. The good news is that time is a healer and the bad images and thoughts come less frequently now. When they enter my mind now I talk to myself (and God) and let them just float by. I don't fight the thoughts, just observe them and keep telling myself they are just thoughts. Thoughts can't hurt us. It is just withdrawal. As long as it is just withdrawal, it will go away eventually. If you can, please continue to stay away from other drugs. You are so strong. You have proven this already because you keep refusing the additional drugs being encouraged by the hospital staff. You hang in there. You are moving in the right direction: A life without drugs. Psyche drugs will send you down a rabbit hole that will make hell look like a holiday. I am almost 90 days off gabapentin and doing much better than I was when I first found this site. The love and caring from the people on this forum is powerful. You will heal sooner than you think because you just took Lyrica and didn't add more drugs. (((Pug hugs)))

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Martina23

Hello Skylarblue

Hello Pug,

 

It was nice that you wrote me. I know you are suffering like me.

 

I know I should be positive, but today I am not. There are so many things. I thought that it would go quicker, that I after some time I can continue in my life as it was.

But I am struggling each day, with someone who I am not. Today in the morning I got up with such a suppressed rage and it does not seem to subside (it is already three months and it is only always worse).

There is something in me, which is alright, such an inner voice which is like I was, which tells me what to do and not to. But all around there is only rage, anxiety, thoughts to harm people which do not even come from me (for example before falling asleep I try to think about something nice and my brain does not seem to be able to visualize this, shows me only pictures from hororrs or something which brings me into despair).

 

I am so afraid that this Lyrica destroyed there something, I do not want to be a person whom I now seem to be. I think I am not sure if I want to live like this. It comes to my mind this film Forest Gump where the Bubba asks what happened and Forest says "you got shot". I feel shot.

 

Sorry to write you.

 

I would the most like to give all my money to my children and then to give it up.

 

I thought before that when this WD is over, I will bring the children to see Ney York. They were made there and would deserve to visit a city  which gave them life. There is beautiful museum there. I wanted to see it oncemore, even a hotel where we lived.

 

But I am not sure if I can anymore. My life fell down like a house of cards. I am crying now.

 

I hope you both are ok. Sorry I did not want that you sink in even worse mood but it was too much for me.

 

Sorry, I hope you are not angry with me

 

Your Martina

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