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calithebold

Hi Ali,

I understand about the loses too. I lost my husband due to the depression I was feeling and now I realise that that depression could very well not been depression at all but a response to all the drugs I was taking interacting with each other and then the withdrawals and side effects when my doc changed someone, which was pretty much every time I saw her. Losing my husband was hard but I am so much better than I used to be and I think knowing that one day there will be the other side, is huge in knowing you can get there, you can recover and hang on to every possible thing you can in the process to keep the loses at a minimum is all we can do. I hope that things work out for you. You are in my thoughts.

Cali


All medications::

Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016)

 

Current medications:

Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission).

 

SupplementsFish oil 4000mgMagnesium 100mg Niacinamide 1000mgSlippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mgP5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU

 

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AliG

Thanks Dave, I appreciate your kind words. These drugs take a lot from us , in many different

ways, physically and also on our relationships. I was probably overreacting, as I tend to do lately,

as all my emotions feel heightened. I have finally got my husband reading Robert Whittaker's

book, and it's helping a lot. If I can just stay a little calmer, and stop catastrophizing, I think

everything will be fine.

 

Thanks Cali, I'm sorry to hear you've had your losses, as well. My depression, was also from the drugs.

I've only just realized that. I suppose all these challenges, make us stronger and more compassionate

people, in the end.

 

Prayers and hugs to all.


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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AliG

I'm questioning myself, tonight. I'm day 48 from what you might call a secondary taper. On and off SSRI's & SSNRI's  for over 20 yrs.  Recent history -  Quit Valdoxan, - end of May , 2014. Cold turkey.  8 months later - withdrawal . I did not know it was withdrawal.  Went on Citalopram (Celexa 20 mg ) for 3 days, 10 mg for 1 day. Bad reaction. Next day started Mianserin ( similar to Mirtazapine), 10 mg. Was on this for 6 days before cold turkey.  I am now on day 48 of latest  withdrawal.  I thought about reinstating but decided against it thinking I could ride it out. I am doing that but I'm obsessed with what can happen now.  I have been on this site searching and am shocked by some things I have read. It has been said that anyone with a psych medical history of decades should take years to taper, and if they don't  will end up back on the drugs.


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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Martina23

AliG, please listen to yourself and dont feel discouraged


05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

symptoms OCD

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AliG

  Thank you for your encouragement but I'm a little confused.


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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Martina23

You wrote that you feel bad about the fact that some mods said you have to taper for years if you were on the medicine for a long time. I meant only that you should not feel bad if you decide to do it other way, as only you know what you feel.


05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

symptoms OCD

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AliG

  Thanks so much for that Martina.  I understand. Thats funny timing, because I'm just reading your thread.  Thank you so much ,

  for taking the time , to reach out to me.  :)


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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Meimeiquest

Hi Ali, just read your comments on Dave's thread about exercise. I think the reason it can be so unhelpful in WD is that it stresses the body and thereby causes cortisol production, and cortisol is one of the big enemies. Cortisol is normally elevated from exercise, but when we are so stressed our response can be very abnormal. One person ( forget who) said keeping the pulse below 100 will prevent that. Of course, some people are at 120 just from standing up in hard WD. Alto's official advice is 30 minutes of gentle exercise a day, but of course it depends on where someone is. About a year ago, not feeling well, my pdoc asked me to watch blood sugars to see if anything surfaced. Gentle walk down street resulted in blood sugar of 168. (Too much cortisol raises blood sugar in many people).


1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.

Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12

Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13

Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15

11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)

9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol

7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol

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AliG

 I've had 1.5 hrs sleep in the last 3 days.  How is it possible to keep functioning, at this level?   At the moment I have very low expectations of myself.  It's funny how the most basic things seem overwhelming right now.  

 

 The good news is that this is my new normal and I'm accepting of that.   I suppose I'm not going to die from lack of sleep, so  I just keep going, in a  very low - functioning way.  Whats the lesson here?  I wish I knew. -   Don't listen to Doctors and Big Pharma is dishonest. It's all a conspiracy to hoodwink the public,  and make lots of $   

 

On the plus side, My mood, although up and down , is not extremely depressed. Slightly depressed - Yes !  Even though I am a total insomniac, at the moment, and a non- functioning  member of the community , I feel that one day , I  might make a difference, in some small way.  I don't have high hopes at the moment,  but I know that is withdrawal  speaking.  Even if I can stop one person from ruining their life, with this poison that is enough at the moment.

  

It's  4 am here.  "Happy Days ". Another sleepless night.  


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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calithebold

Hey Ali, I'm up too here in  Oz at 4am. Though I have had some sleep. I'm sorry you are really really struggling. I wish I could say something that would make it feel better.

 

You said "Even though I am a total insomniac, at the moment, and a non- functioning  member of the community , I feel     one day , I will make a difference, in some small way". You are a member are the community, it's just that it's here where you are and you are liked by a lot of people and people really care about you and that's always a start. I think you do make a difference, every time you respond to someone, you make a difference. I know when I get your responses to my thread, they make me feel better and I'm sure others feel the same as I do. I know how hard it is but I am trying to turn off my inner critic. The voice in my head that tells me I'm awful and don't deserve good things. I know it's hard hearing some of this stuff, so sorry if it has. Thinking of you :)


All medications::

Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016)

 

Current medications:

Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission).

 

SupplementsFish oil 4000mgMagnesium 100mg Niacinamide 1000mgSlippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mgP5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU

 

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AliG

Thanks Cali, Tonight is surreal I'm  on my third day of no " shuteye". I'm not handling it well although I have resigned myself to giving another year or two  of my life to this process. You are right - we need to turn off the inner critic. When you grow up with  abuse it becomes second nature.


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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AliG

  Thanks Meimei,  Is that why some of us put on weight, no matter how we "diet"?  The  blood sugar.  Why do Psych drugs do that?

   Why do they raise Cortisol , so much?  What can we do to counteract that?    So many questions, so little time !!    Hope you don't mind

   the inquisition - just curious.  :)


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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peggy

good morning Ali..

 

I feel so awful for you - 3 nights of no sleep - i am a bit of an insomniac phobic - i experienced severe insomnia as my primary symptom with postnatal depression after my first born.  i began to obsess over sleep - would i sleep tonight?  i would think about it all day - that was now the anxiety manifested itself.  In fact, when ever i got depressed again that was my hallmark symptom - the thought would i sleep tonight.  It was so bizarre - if i wasn't depressed i could have that thought and it would float through my head - but if it stuck, that was the beginning of another depressive episode.  I think it was caused by conditioning in my childhood - if i couldn't sleep my mother would say - you better get to sleep quickly or you won't be able to (whatever) tomorrow.  But I am a usually a very good sleeper - fall asleep quickly and sleep deeply.  

 

You may not want any advice, but i would suggest that you don't use your computer from 7pm - 7am.  The light from the computer screen is particularly bad for your sleep especially if is a little fragile.  Instead, download some guided meditation sleep audios from sites such as meditation oasis.  Even if you don't actually sleep, you might get into a meditative state that gives your brain some rest to heal.  Use them a couple of times during the day as well.  

 

love and light, Peggy


Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg

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Fresh

You're right Ali , no-one ever died from lack of sleep.  It sound like you're handling the changes really well.  

I always saw changes as a positive.   My biggest fear was that I'd stay the same for ever , so changes in symptoms

meant something was changing , and that was good.  As Peggy suggests , resting your body and brain is important

even if you can't sleep.

 

Hip Hop Happy Eater ,  Fresh

 

p.s. Peggy , do you ever look at your thread?   :)


1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg

2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg

Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta

Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months.

July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months.

Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg.

October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive.

March 2016 , 21mg

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Tilly

Hi Ali,

 

Thank you so much for stopping by my page and your lovely comments. I really appreciate you taking the time.

 

Withdrawal, for me is like a grieving process in many ways. The less that I resist the mood swings, neuro - emotions and wide range of symptoms, the easier I find things. Maybe this will help you too? My dry humour helps me at times too. I try to laugh at myself and find humour where and when possible. (My eye twitches this week have turned me into a serial winker!!!)  I am also finding that my resilience and sense of self is increasing slowly but surely as a consequence of negotiating my way through the daily struggles that we face.

 

What you are going through is perfectly natural, given your circumstances. Not at all fair or right, but all part of the healing process. I hope that brings you some comfort, especially through the tough times.

 

You are showing such courage and strength that maybe you can't always see yourself. Remember to give yourself full credit for every success, no matter how small.

 

I will follow your progress with interest and wish you the best of everything. You sound like such a lovely person.

 

Take care and be kind to yourself.

 

Tilly x


1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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JanCarol

Oh Ali! I'm so sorry you have been feeling so bad!  I was off in my own little world - I'm sorry I didn't get back to you before now.

 

Please don't beat yourself up, you're doing your best.

 

I don't know much about mianserin, you said like Mirtazapine, but it sounds like an older tricyclic.  Can you reinstate a tiny amount, say, 1 mg?  Just to smooth over this rough patch?  Then taper from there?  How do you feel about that?  Does it scare you too much?  Or are you desperate for help?

 

Yes, psych drugs make us fat, and hold onto fat, and start metabolic syndrome.  But you look fairly fit - sure - not a runway model, but who wants to be a bag of bones? 

 

Here's 3 stories from GiaK about psych meds and fat:

Beyond Meds - psych meds and fat

Beyond Meds - Psychiatric drugs and fat

Beyond Meds - Psych Meds make you fat

She gained 95 pounds (43 kilos) in just 3 years on psych meds.  She lost 82 pounds (37 kilos) by quitting gluten and eating more fresh veggies, paleo for awhile, then low histamine diet for awhile.  She wasn't looking to "lose weight" just to get healthy again, and feed her brain so that she could heal.

 

I hope your hubby can be patient a bit longer - he has no idea.

 

I remember talking to my yoga teacher about massage.  And I said I would never let a man touch me on the table.  She was stunned!  I felt like saying, "oh honey, how nice for you - you've never been molested, abused, and have no reason to fear.  Some of us have it otherwise!"  But I didn't.  I just said, No No men.  I couldn't relax on the table with a man.

 

That's what I feel you may need to say to hubby:  "oh honey, how nice for you - you have no idea what it's like to be . . . . . . "(I don't know how graphic you want to get, but you can get your point across.)  and "please be patient with me, the drugs sometimes take YEARS to come out of the system, and it's bringing all these issues and memories up."

 

It would drive me batty to have a high powered man in the house right now.  I'm so slow, my totem koala bear just barely moving, spending lots of time resting and heaving.  

 

Have you been to the gym lately?  Yoga class?  These little things help you feel a bit better.  I'll ask my acupuncturist next time if she knows someone in your neighborhood, that maybe she went to school with.  If she doesn't know, she works under an older, more experienced lady who surely knows someone.

 

{{{{{Ali}}}}}


"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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justwanttobefree

Thinking of you Ali and praying you get a deep restful sleep tonight!! I've read your kind and supportive replies on others threads as well as my own and you are truly a sweetheart. Don't be hard on yourself when it comes to your husband, marriages are hard work as it is without one side struggling with complete mental and phsycial turmoil! I've asked my husband to just love me and be patient with me as I navigate this journey. Men tend to be fixers and unfortunately this is one thing that they can't fix! You are strong and have a lot of insight, you are going to make it ❤️ Just keep putting one foot in front of the other.


Diagnosed: Pure O Ocd, Severe Anxiety Disorder NOS, PMDD

 

November 2009 - May 2013- CIPRALEX 20mg

C/T off 20mg Cipralex

Went into dark depression (never experienced before med)

September 2013 - March 2014- PROZAC 20mg

Weaned down to 10mg and held

October 1st 2014 C/T off 10mg Prozac

Protracted withdrawal - 8 months of the most horrific suffering imaginable

June 1st 2015 - ZOLOFT 25mg

June 26th 2015 - Dose increase to 50mg of Zoloft (taken at night after dinner). Slowly improving but still have severe OCD/ruminating, intense DP/DR, and brain fog. Just trying to stabilize at this point.

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AliG

 Thanks everyone for the concern , kind words and encouragement.   You're right Peggy, I will have to limit my computer time, at night when insomnia hits as it probably does not help, however there's not much else to do, but I will try. The meditation guides sound like a good idea. Thanks for the tip.

 

Fresh, thanks for checking in . I hope you're enjoying the Easter break. The sun is shining up here so I hope it's lovely and sunny down Sydney way.  I love this time of year. We got away up to the "sunshine coast" for a few days, and I finally managed to sleep. Praise the Lord !  

 

Thanks Tilly , for the kind words. I think you're right about the " path of least resistance", and just going with the flow.  I think we have to accept that this is just the way it is, for now  and be at peace with that. I think keeping it light if we can and having a laugh about it , truly is good medicine. You gave me a laugh with the "serial winker" comment ! 

 

Jan, I'm still undecided on reinstating , as my procrastination is at an all time high.  Thanks for the links on diet. I'll check it out.You made me laugh , with your " koala bear " image - "just barely moving, spending lots of time, resting and heaving !   I haven't been to the gym in a few weeks due to overwhelming tiredness, but I am planning to rectify that in coming weeks. My gym also has yoga classes, that I used to do and I'm planning on getting back to that.  I think yoga is probably the perfect exercise for " recovery".

 

JustWTBF, Thank you so much for your  kind thoughts, and encouragement. You're right marriage can be tricky at the best of times, let alone something as challenging, as we are all facing in our recovery.  Men are definitely action oriented, and I think they feel helpless,

when they can't do that. I know that is how my husband feels, but I'm trying to teach him to just "listen" and accept, instead of trying to solve my problems. This is hard for him as he is a "take charge" kind of guy. 

 

I'm feeling so much better , brighter and more optimistic today after a bit of sleep and my few days at the beach, which I just adore, when the sun is shining and the sound of the waves , and seagulls .  That lovely salty , fresh air as you walk along the beach. Heaven.

It gave me a glimpse again, of how good life can be, when we're in the right place physically, to take it all in . It has given me hope , that was sadly waning a bit, and I  am now ready to take on this challenge with renewed vigor. 

 

I wish this for everyone here , as well. The strength to keep going, as we heal and get our lives back, one day at a time.

Happy Easter, 

Ali


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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calithebold

Hi Ali

 

I used to use the computer all the time in the middle of the night, it's hard not too hey, especially when you're bored and haven't anything to do with all those hours in front of you? How are you feeling at the moment? Are you okay? All these questions :blush:


All medications::

Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016)

 

Current medications:

Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission).

 

SupplementsFish oil 4000mgMagnesium 100mg Niacinamide 1000mgSlippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mgP5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU

 

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dalsaan

Hi AliG,

 

Can I ask, when you took the mianserin what happened?   what effects did it have?   did you sleep better?   Being a very close cousin to mirtazapine I would expect some sleep effects

 

Just thinking about what's happening for you and your options.

 

Dalsaan x


Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.

Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.

Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.

Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.

Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).

Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

 

DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017

 

>My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan

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Altostrata

Hi, AliG.

 

I just wanted to clarify your impression about tapering relative to how long it takes to heal once off psychiatric drugs.

 

We recommend very gradual tapering to reduce the risk of severe or prolonged withdrawal syndrome. Going cold-turkey off drugs is the route with the highest risk. Having been on them for years is definitely another high-risk factor for withdrawal difficulties.

 

However, there are people who have quit in a very short amount of time and suffered little or no withdrawal symptoms as well as others who have suffered withdrawal symptoms for many months or years.

 

No one can foretell who will have severe problems and who will have minor problems going off drugs. Medicine (while ALWAYS discouraging cold turkey for the damage it causes) thinks withdrawal syndrome is generally mild and lasts only a few weeks -- that may apply to the majority of people, or it could be completely erroneous. Doctors know little about psychiatric drug withdrawal syndrome.

 

When someone is very recently off a drug and suffering withdrawal syndrome, we usually suggest reinstating a very low dose of the drug, stabilizing, then tapering off very gradually some time later. This is the only way known to "treat" withdrawal syndrome. It does not always work.

 

Sometimes people choose not to reinstate the drug and deal with withdrawal syndrome, with all its unknowns. We also support that. The Symptoms and Self-Care forum is filled with suggestions for managing the symptoms of withdrawal syndrome.

 

Asking how long does withdrawal syndrome last is a very, very common question on this site. See

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Recovery

 

"Is it always going to be like this?"

 

The short answer is recovery is very gradual and the amount of time it takes is individual. If you've had withdrawal syndrome lasting more than a few months, it's likely it will take quite a few more months for you to feel better.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hi AliG, how are you doing? I hope you are sleeping better...hugs  :)


2005-2009, Lexapro 10 - 20 mg, CT WD w/severe depression and anxiety:  2010-2015, Paxil, 30 - 40 mg, tapered off at 10 mg/week, moderate anxiety and depression:  2010-2015, Clonozapam 0.25 mg, as needed for anxiety and sleep:  1/10/2015, Zoloft 25 mg, tried to increase to 50 and 75, but nausea and dizziness:  2/13/2015, Paxil 5 mg, added back after 2 weeks at zero to reduce WD:  2/28/2015, Paxil 10 mg, increased from 5 mg to reduce WD, HOLDING:  3/04/2015, Zoloft discontinued (reduced to ~12.5 mg on 2/19, ~6.25 mg on 2/26, then zero):  4/26/2015, Paxil starting 10% taper (no scale so was inadvertently at 20% taper, yikes!):  4/30/2015, Paxil 10 mg, reinstated (WD disappeared between August 2015 and May 2016)

5/02/2016, Started 10% taper, reinstated to 10 mg on 5/11/16:  4/29/2017, Last dose of Paxil (working with holistic psychiatrist, lots of supplements to aid WD):  Primary symptoms: apathy, demotivation, anhedonia, fatigue, stress intolerance, moderate social anxiety

7/1/2018 Finally feeling like myself again, success!!! Praise God! Even with the stress of relocating recently, I am feeling pretty good most of the time now. Granted, I eat healthy, I exercise, I don't drink caffeine or alcohol and I try hard find a healthy balance of quiet and social times. Hang in there and keep the faith, you can do it too!

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AliG

  Hi Dalsaan,  when I took Mianserin, I  felt really tired. It knocked me out at night and then I felt drugged all day. That is why I stopped it so soon - ( 6 days). 

 

Thanks Alto, for clarifying some things for me. I will read up on those links.  For now I will continue as I have been, which is off all drugs,

even though it was C/T . I feel my history is too erratic, and too far along now to reinstate.  It would have been preferable, obviously, but I just didn't know that before I joined  S. A. 

 

Thanks Cali, and Pre for checking in.      I'm not doing so well. I have very intense emotions that can just come out of the blue, or can be set off by any frustrating circumstance -  ( people, weather, traffic , "news"  etc. )   I can  also feel the "dark cloud" of " depression", looming.   I'm trying to be accepting of this as "withdrawal", but some days are hard. 

 

Ali


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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Hang in there, Ali x


2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare!

 

On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect.

 

Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan.

 

 

Nightmare that could have been avoided!

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AliG

     Just to post a quote from "fresh".    -    "when It's really bad, remind yourself, over and over  that it will pass, the waves will come, but they always go away too. It's just sensations  and they can't hurt you. 

 

 Thanks Fresh.   Love your spirit.


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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  Hi Dalsaan,  when I took Mianserin, I  felt really tired. It knocked me out at night and then I felt drugged all day. That is why I stopped it so soon - ( 6 days). 

 

Thanks Alto, for clarifying some things for me. I will read up on those links.  For now I will continue as I have been, which is off all drugs,

even though it was C/T . I feel my history is too erratic, and too far along now to reinstate.  It would have been preferable, obviously, but I just didn't know that before I joined  S. A. 

 

Thanks Cali, and Pre for checking in.      I'm not doing so well. I have very intense emotions that can just come out of the blue, or can be set off by any frustrating circumstance -  ( people, weather, traffic , "news"  etc. )   I can  also feel the "dark cloud" of " depression", looming.   I'm trying to be accepting of this as "withdrawal", but some days are hard. 

 

Ali

Hi Ali,

 

I'm so sorry to hear that you are struggling. The feelings that you are having can feel so overwhelming. Keep reminding yourself that it is temporary and will pass. Easier said than done on the hard days, I know. I hope that these feelings lift and you get some relief very soon.

 

Be gentle with yourself. You are not alone.

 

Tilly x


1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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AliG

  Thanks Tilly.  You're right. The feelings are so overwhelming. !!   I can't help feeling , tonight like I'm sinking.   I'm just trying to get through each moment.  Thanks.


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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Tilly

Aww, bless you Ali. I really feel for you.

 

Are you able to distract yourself at all? What usually helps you? 


1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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AliG

  Distracting myself with the " S. A " website and general  " computer"  stuff.  Searching for answers.   I'm smart and need to know, what's happening.  However, lot's of brain cells, have gone.    Lot's of "regret" tonight.   


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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AliG

I'm so sad tonight about what this has done to me and everyone here. I've probably been reading too much. Totally neuro at the moment. Can't sleep - it's 2.45am here and I know tomorrow will be another non- productive day. Trying to be patient.  In the meantime - life is slipping away.


Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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Tilly

I've had days like this recently, Ali. Life is too short for regrets. It is horrendous what has been done to us. However, we can and will get through it and enjoy our lives. We've been hurt for long enough. It's time for us to be gentle with ourselves and show ourselves some long overdue care.

 

Try to rest, Ali. You must be exhausted with all of these emotions.

 

Show yourself some kindness and rest your weary mind.

 

Speak soon.

 

Tillyx


1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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Martina23

Ali, I feel the same, anger, pity, thoughts that my life is over, then anxiety what has to become of my children, if I can be trusted. It is awful. I bought today my daughter such a dress like princess, I am so afraid that it would never be like before. I am sorry that you feel the same. And I am sorry about your marriage also. I dont know how is it to be married, my boyfriend left me immediately when I went pregnant. I loved him very much, but I think in this time I was very unripe. I think I did not behave to him always very well, now I am sorry for it but I cant change it anymore. But we did not know each other very long. Nevertheless our children are very nice and now my daughter Emily will look like Primaballerina... I hope you are better, hugs, Martina


05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

symptoms OCD

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I thought this from beyondmeds.com was helpful. Note that she is talking about intense feelings post-meds. http://beyondmeds.com/2014/11/22/choice-and-emotion/


1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.

Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12

Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13

Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15

11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)

9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol

7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol

56 years old

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Ali I hope you get to have an easier day today, you are in my thoughts, be gentle with you!


All medications::

Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016)

 

Current medications:

Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission).

 

SupplementsFish oil 4000mgMagnesium 100mg Niacinamide 1000mgSlippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mgP5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU

 

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Tilly

Hi Ali,

 

You have been in my thoughts since we spoke yesterday. You had such a tough day.

 

Did you manage to rest and get some sleep? I hope so. It really does help.

 

I hope that your day is kind to you.

 

Take good care and speak soon.

 

Tilly x


1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg  -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 -  short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg  ->

2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg  (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 -   October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments  -> Oct 2014  - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg;  19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March.

Diet:  mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins.  Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated).

Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics.

Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure.

Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future.

 

"Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain

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AliG, thank you for stopping by my page. Thanks for your kind words as well. I'm half way through reading your thread, but need to go to work, i will catch up later.


-jan14 2016- off effexor!!-

wellbutrin:Jan 25/17;Start to split 100mg in half

-Feb 12/17;100-50mg -Apr 30/17;50-30mg liquid. -June 6/ 17;30-20mg -July6/17;updose to 26mg -Oct 18/17;13 to 12mg -Nov 24/17;12 to 11mg -Feb 21/18;22 to 20mg -Apr 2/18;20 to 18mg -Apr 30/18;18 to 16mg -May 22/18;16 to 14mg -June 18/18;14 to 12.4mg -July 15 /18;12.4 to 11.6mg -Nov5/18;11.2 to 10mg -Dec14/18;10 to 10.4mg

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