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I think this video may help with changing the channel to bring a sense of clarity watching nature:

http://youtu.be/kwqdVqj1kIU

Hi! Do you happen to have another link? It comes up as private.

Thanks!! ????

Effexor XR 300 (brand) mg & various SSRIs 15 yrs (Effexor XR 300 mg past 10 yrs

Clonazepam, 1.0 mg. am, .5 mg pm. - 15 yrs, 7-17-16- Began .5 three times a day

Vyvanse 60 mg, - 2 yrs, Cut to 50 mg for 6 mths, Cut to 30 mg. on 4-1-16. Tapering.

Approx. 4-1-15 began Effexor XR 300 taper, very slowly for a year. Held at 37.5 for about 3 mths. Cut to 18 mg for 2 wks to 0. WD began 2 wks later. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, low appetite, nausea.

7-14-16-Reinstated 5 beads Effx after 4 mths misery.Pooped out 10 days.

9-12-16-to present- Wide eyed terror, bedridden fear, no appetite/feeling of being full.

10-30-16- Began 15% liquid tapering of 30 mg Vyvanse. (25 mg)

11-13-16- Liquid Vyvanse 22 mg,11-27-16- Liquid 15 mg, 12-12-16- Vyvanse 12.5 for 5 days. 12-16 - 12-29, 15 mg.

11-20-16- Switched back to 1.0 clonazepam am & .5 bedtime

12-30-16- Moved to 15 mg COMPOUNDED Vyvanse.Current 4/11-4/25 7.5 mg.(10% ev 2 wks) Off Vyvanse

Current meds:Effexor XR- 3 Beads, Clonazepam-1.0 mg am, .5 mg bedtime,Vyvanse-(tapering) Estradiol- 2

mg,Progesterone 200 mg,Testosterone 30 mg/ml,Nature Throid- 48.75 mg.(12-21-16-65 mg.) (4-18-17-81.25 mg) Current supplements: Fish Oil-1360 mg, Curamin- 2706 mg.

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I'm hoping this fits with changing the channel - as I see it as changing perspective on feelings which are normally perceived as threatening.

 

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do you fight the dark places or accept them?

do you force yourself to think positive, or what???

 
Mmmm.
 
Acceptance is huge.
 
I find that the best use of the monsters is to greet them, and put them to work.  So I accept them.  I find compassion for them, and then find what we have to offer each other.  I let them have voices (in appropriate places), give them jobs, and after awhile, we help each other.
 
I spent so many years in a depleted, non-functional state.  I still suffer depletion very easily.
 
So the monsters - the fear, the worry, the anger - can become a source of energy.
 
But you can't let them run wild - if you can befriend them, and find compassion for them, they may submit to your halter, and help you.  Sure, sometimes we wrassle (fight) a bit - but if you offer them territory, or a voice, or a job - they become less feral.
 
Anger helps me energize and fight for what I believe in.
Fear reminds me to be diligent
Jealousy makes me raise my game.
Worry makes me anticipate problems to be solved.
 
But I have to also understand - to find compassion: that my anger comes from very deep hurt, and the pain I feel when my loved ones are hurting, too.
And the things I have been through are the source of my fear, and my sense of failure and inferiority leave me vulnerable to jealousy.  And I was taught to worry, when I failed to pay attention and horrible things happened.  These understandings help me have compassion for the Monsters.
 
In that compassion, they are not so frightening, not so overwhelming.  In fact, most of them are very small children or little non-verbal animals who are deeply hurt, and just want to be heard, and make themselves out to be big Monsters in order to tell their stories.

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

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On 8/5/2011 at 11:38 AM, Altostrata said:

CBT was always too structured and authoritarian for my taste -- it bugs me there's a "right" way to think

Hello Alto

 

Thank goodness! Someone else who finds CBT unhelpful.  It drove me bananas when the community psychiatric nurse tried it on me (I had also had go some years before and didn't find it helpful) - so much form filling and "what is the your most 'hot' thought". "how can you work around this?" - this to a person who was in 24/7 anxiety, could barely think how to make a cup of tea, from a massive wave after three years of symptoms from a CT (but they didn't believe that part of my story).  I almost yelled at her "every one of them is a hot thought".  They stopped trying it on me but I always had the feeling I hadn't tried hard enough.

 

So thanks

 

Neroli

2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013.  April 2013 - July 2014  Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine.  July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d.  February - July 2016 Fluoxetine.  Medication free, long term w/d syndrome.  2017 Jan physical breakdown.

2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated.  Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN.  April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone

Tapers:

Diazepam 

2017 21 August - 21.25mg down to 30 Dec - 14.5mg 2018 6 Jan - 11 May down to 12mg.  2 June updose to 12.25mg - holding. 2019 (0.5mg cuts) - 12 Jan 12mg to 28 Dec down to 10mg 2020 (0.25mg cuts) - 25 Jan 9.75mg to 29 Dec down to 6.25mg 2021 **May have bungled dose and accidentally took 1mg more for about a month (approx 7.25mg), so 4 Jan started again at 6.5mg

Escitalopram 9.30am - 10mg (tried twice to reduce by 0.1mg, got spooked by extreme fatigue and depression both times, back to original dose)  

Nortriptyline  2018 90mg to 2020 1 Dec down to 72.5mg

 

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CBT is not appropriate for every circumstance, but it is highly useful in some.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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How Id love to change the channel and have it stay changed!!! ;) 

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. React to AD's. Klonopin .5BID 1990, 2.5mg til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Taper to 2.25mg May to Nov '16. Bad react to Lexapro, stop. React to Prevacid too, taper off. 

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from Feb to June '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 8.25, 10/24 8.0, 12/19 7.75, Feb '20 7.50, 3/20 7.25, 5/20 7.0, 6/20 6.75, 7/20 6.5, 8/20 6.25, 10/2 20 6.0, 11/25'20 5.75, 12/5 5.5

-12/12/20 V 5.75mg 1015AM, K+.5mg and vit D 4,000IU 130, 415 Clonazepam .2mg, 815 Premarin .3mg, 1015 Clonaz .9mg,

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13 hours ago, Altostrata said:

CBT is not appropriate for every circumstance, but it is highly useful in some.

Yes, actually I saw a psychologist after this and the way we worked was useful, at one point I told him how I was putting strategies and coping mechanisms in place and he said "that's CBT", so I was doing it naturally.  I guess it boils down to the person and the way they use it that makes the difference.

2006 Citalopram 20mg on and off to 2013.  April 2013 - July 2014  Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Fluoxetine, Mirtazapine v. bad reactions. July 2014 - CT Mirtazapine.  July 2014 - February 2016 Medication free, long term w/d.  February - July 2016 Fluoxetine.  Medication free, long term w/d syndrome.  2017 Jan physical breakdown.

2017 February - March Escitalopram, Nortriptyline instated.  Lorazepam, Zopiclone PRN.  April 2017 Lithium Carbonate 250mg 1 wk. 14 August 2017 finish cross to Diazepam 22.5mg daily, stop Zopiclone

Tapers:

Diazepam 

2017 21 August - 21.25mg down to 30 Dec - 14.5mg 2018 6 Jan - 11 May down to 12mg.  2 June updose to 12.25mg - holding. 2019 (0.5mg cuts) - 12 Jan 12mg to 28 Dec down to 10mg 2020 (0.25mg cuts) - 25 Jan 9.75mg to 29 Dec down to 6.25mg 2021 **May have bungled dose and accidentally took 1mg more for about a month (approx 7.25mg), so 4 Jan started again at 6.5mg

Escitalopram 9.30am - 10mg (tried twice to reduce by 0.1mg, got spooked by extreme fatigue and depression both times, back to original dose)  

Nortriptyline  2018 90mg to 2020 1 Dec down to 72.5mg

 

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On 8/4/2011 at 4:19 PM, summer said:

Changing channels comes more naturally to me, and almost instantly. I can feel myself kind of smiling when I do it. It's been consistently working.

 

CBT, while useful for some, doesn't work for me. It reminds me of EST, and I'm not a fan.

What is EST? Has anyone dabbled in Byron Katie "the work" ? I have a love-hate relationship with it. Was willing to try it has some difficulty with it at times but it did lead me to question whether my thoughts were reality and that was the first experience I had of that. I thought it would be like CBT but I'm not sure it is and I haven't really tried CBT. Just not sure what's going to end up working for me the only thing that's consistent so far is his 1 routine of Qi Gong and I don't do it consistently I get too Frozen.

 

 

Went off ADs Sept/ Oct 2016 - Feb 2017.

Cymbalta and Klonopin 1-2 yrs.

Prior to that was on Effexor, Wellbutrin Abilify klonapin/ lorazepam.

Used a lot of supplements to help getting off the meds and still dabble in them in a panic.

Did SAM-e trigger the anxiety?

Or traumas?

Have tried CBD recently with mixed results.

Anxiety is predominant problem now.

It sometimes rolls into some low mood.

Still not stable.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Freesia said:

What is EST?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getting_It:_The_Psychology_of_est

 

Non Drug Coping Tools

 

It's good to have a variety of tools to use.  Some tools work better at different times and/or in different situations.  CBT challenges thoughts, but sometimes AAF might be more helpful.

 

On 4/28/2017 at 4:03 AM, brassmonkey said:

 

AAF: Acknowledge, Accept, Float.  It's what you have to do when nothing else works, and can be a very powerful tool in coping with anxiety.  The neuroemotional anxiety many of us feel during WD is directly caused by the drugs and their chemical reactions in the brain.  Making it so there is nothing we can do about them.  They won't respond to other drugs, relaxation techniques and the like.  They do, however, react very well to being ignored.  That's the concept behind AAF.  Acknowledge, get to know the feeling involved, explore them.  Accept, These feelings are a part of you and they aren't going anywhere fast. Float, let the feeling float off as you get on with your life as best as you can.  It's a well documented fact that the more you feed in to anxiety the worse it gets.  What starts as generalized neuroemotinal anxiety can be easily blown into a full fledged panic attack just by thinking about it.

 

I often liken it to an unwanted house guest.  At first you talk to them, have conversations, communicate with them.  After a while you figure out that they aren't leaving and there is nothing you can do to get rid of them.  So you go on about your day, working around them until they get bored and leave.

 

It can take some practice, but AAF really does work.  I hope you give it a try.

 

 

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On 1/28/2017 at 10:59 PM, JanCarol said:

I'm hoping this fits with changing the channel - as I see it as changing perspective on feelings which are normally perceived as threatening.

 

Member Catnapt asked:

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Mmmm.
 
Acceptance is huge.
 
I find that the best use of the monsters is to greet them, and put them to work.  So I accept them.  I find compassion for them, and then find what we have to offer each other.  I let them have voices (in appropriate places), give them jobs, and after awhile, we help each other.
 
I spent so many years in a depleted, non-functional state.  I still suffer depletion very easily.
 
So the monsters - the fear, the worry, the anger - can become a source of energy.
 
But you can't let them run wild - if you can befriend them, and find compassion for them, they may submit to your halter, and help you.  Sure, sometimes we wrassle (fight) a bit - but if you offer them territory, or a voice, or a job - they become less feral.
 
Anger helps me energize and fight for what I believe in.
Fear reminds me to be diligent
Jealousy makes me raise my game.
Worry makes me anticipate problems to be solved.
 
But I have to also understand - to find compassion: that my anger comes from very deep hurt, and the pain I feel when my loved ones are hurting, too.
And the things I have been through are the source of my fear, and my sense of failure and inferiority leave me vulnerable to jealousy.  And I was taught to worry, when I failed to pay attention and horrible things happened.  These understandings help me have compassion for the Monsters.
 
In that compassion, they are not so frightening, not so overwhelming.  In fact, most of them are very small children or little non-verbal animals who are deeply hurt, and just want to be heard, and make themselves out to be big Monsters in order to tell their stories.

 

 

I think this is brilliant but I don't know what I am capable of. I can barely tolerate bad feelings - in fact I often don't even get that far - let alone welcome them or harness their energy.  I'm going to have to think about this. 

 

On 11/12/2018 at 12:28 PM, ChessieCat said:

It's good to have a variety of tools to use.  Some tools work better at different times and/or in different situations.  CBT challenges thoughts, but sometimes AAF might be more helpful.

 

AAF sounds like an excellent tool.

 

also, I  have read about ACT and think it sounds like a good option. Acceptance & Commitment Therapy  but I feel like I sort of understand it only because I read The Happiness Trap which simplifies it. 

 

I read self help books a lot. I would guess I'm not alone on this!

 

 

 

Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day

Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM  (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut)

Famotidine   once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes)

magnesium 200 mg at night

as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000"

 

off Lexapro as of 5/2018  - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years

 

highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. 

 

I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. 

 

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On 7/13/2011 at 11:21 AM, Altostrata said:

The technique is very simple: When you recognize you are in the midst of an unpleasant emotion, change the channel by doing something more pleasant or constructive or healthy.

One way I change the channel is by listening to inspirational youtube videos.  This really helps to stop the negative obsessions in my head.  It also forces me to focus on something very positive and healing that produced spiritual growth in me.  

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 02 - 10 mg; Jan 19 20  0.2 mg;  Apr 2  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13

Trazodone.  used 50 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, stopped

Xanax. used 0.5 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, stopped

Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, multivitamin, vit C, vit E, calcium

suppl PM: magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, Estroven, melatonin 3 mg, calcium

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Hi everyone !

 

Well, I'm convinced with the importance of trying regurlaly To change the Channel. But sometimes, I really don't know how To do it, what kind of activity I could try. And my motivation and creativity are often down. Most of the I'm housebounded because of agoraphobia. 

 

And then I wonder  : how do others in WD occupy their days ?

 

 

So I thought  : why  not sharing our ideas ?

Here are some :

 

- my father gave me a challenge : make a playlist of 1000 pieces of music that I like, from 1000 différent artists ( he is already at 500!)

 

- focus on a puzzle.

 

- Sort your clothes.

 

-....

 

Of course these are not miracle solutions, and sometimes you can only try for 5 minutes. Also, sometimes you can't try these ideas at all. 

For example  : it is often impossible for me To listen To music. And when I began To try To sort my clothes, I actually let them on the floor for 3 weeks before I found the courage To really sort them. 

 

And it is perfectly ok. 

 

My idea with this topic is just To create a box in which anybody could pick up ideas when days are long and full of mourning, and try them To see if it helps.

 

So what are yours? :)

2006 : 20mg Paroxetine + Bromazepam(no specific dose) (2008 : cold turkey of both)

2010 : 20mg Deroxat + Bromazepam

2013: Switch from Bromazepam To Prazepam (longer half-life)

2014-June2017 : Prazepam taper, 3% drops. 

2018 to August 2019 : Paroxetine 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22nd August updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paroxetine. 

April 2020-August 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21457-erell-struggling-with-paroxetine/?do=findComment&comment=499847

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

Current medication :  7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine (since 20 Aug 2020) + 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

 

Website : https://selibererdelapsychiatrie.wordpress.com/

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Knitting when I'm exhausted.

 

Walking outdoors where there are some views of trees, meadow, water... watching birds at the feeders on my deck. 

 

 

 

1989 - 1992 Parnate* 

1992-1998 Paxil - pooped out*, oxazapam, inderal

1998 - 2005 Celexa - pooped out* klonopin, oxazapam, inderal

*don't remember doses

2005 -2007   Cymbalta 60 mg oxazapam, inderal, klonopin

Started taper in 2007:

CT klonopin, oxazapam, inderal (beta blocker) - 2007

Cymbalta 60mg to 30mg 2007 -2010

July 2010 - March 2018 on hiatus due to worsening w/d symptoms, which abated and finally disappeared. Then I stalled for about 5 years because I didn't want to deal with W/D.

March 2018 - May 2018 switch from 30mg Cymbalta to 20mg Celexa 

19 mg Celexa October 7, 2018

18 mg Celexa November 5, 2018

17 mg Celexa  December 2, 2019

16 mg Celexa January 6, 2018 

15 mg Celexa March 7, 2019

14 mg Celexa April 24, 2019

13 mg Celexa June 28, 2019

12.8 mg Celexa November 10, 2019

12.4 Celexa August 31, 2020

12.2 Celexa December 28, 2020

 

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I listen to podcasts. It's harder to get caught in my thinking if someone is talking into my ears (earbuds).

 

At times I have pulled myself up from the thinking. I actually put my hand up into a 'stop' position and say 'stop'. Must look odd, so I only do it if I'm alone. :)

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 24 Dec 2020 1.6 mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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6 hours ago, bubbles said:

I listen to podcasts. It's harder to get caught in my thinking if someone is talking into my ears (earbuds).

 Oh yes, I started To listen To podcasts about a week ago, and it's great To change the Channel! 

What kind of podcasts do you listen To?

 

(Actually I find the 'stop' really great To remind yourself To stay in the now 😉)

2006 : 20mg Paroxetine + Bromazepam(no specific dose) (2008 : cold turkey of both)

2010 : 20mg Deroxat + Bromazepam

2013: Switch from Bromazepam To Prazepam (longer half-life)

2014-June2017 : Prazepam taper, 3% drops. 

2018 to August 2019 : Paroxetine 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22nd August updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paroxetine. 

April 2020-August 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21457-erell-struggling-with-paroxetine/?do=findComment&comment=499847

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

Current medication :  7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine (since 20 Aug 2020) + 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

 

Website : https://selibererdelapsychiatrie.wordpress.com/

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  • Learned how to make sourdough bread - a process that takes place over several days. Made my first two loaves yesterday!
  • Meditate using Headspace app or some other guided meditation. 
  • Watching travel shows on TV and dreaming of the day I feel good enough to travel

1991- 1999          Prozac, then Zoloft

1999- present      Celexa 20mg, 6/2019 increased to 40mg

1999- present      Wellbutrin (bupropion SR), reduced from 200mg to 100mg SR 

1/2019-present   Buspar (buspirone) 20mg; 6/2019 increased to 40mg

4/2018-6/2019   Ativan 1mg; 6/2019 switched to Klonopin

6/2019-9/2019   Klonopin 1mg; 5 week taper 

1/2020                 plan slow taper off bupropion; then taper doses of Celexa and buspirone.

 

11/2019 added magnesium and increased fish oil

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On 11/3/2019 at 3:20 PM, Erell said:

What kind of podcasts do you listen To?

 

I find myself listening to political podcasts, diet (as in whole food, nutrition and cooking, not necessarily losing weight), news. I'm sure there are more but that's what comes to mind now! YouTube has all sorts that I often turn on and just listen to rather than watch. I'm quite eclectic. I also like audio books.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

 

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/17/

CurrentSertraline: 24 Dec 2020 1.6 mg / Armour Thyroid / endless allergy meds, erg

 

 

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Hello everyone and good topic @Erell ;)

 

I do some of what others have mentioned here:

  • knitting (which I learned to do on youtube as I mentioned to @Erell). The beauty of learning on youtube is that you ask the teacher to repeat an unlilmited amount of times wihtout him/her thinking you are a dummy!
  • Telling myself to stay in the moment. Focus on what I am doing. This doesn't always work because the anxiety, heart/chest pounding, etc. often come back.  Telling myself that I have no reason to be agitated - to 'stop' and calm down.
  • Cleaning, weeding, anything physical if I am able.  I don't do things that tax executive function (planning, organizing, etc.).
  • Watching somethign on TV which holds my attention.
  • Listening to music that makes me happy. That is a great way to change the channel.
  • Coloring.
  • Learning about something I am very interested in - and can focus all of my energy on.
  • Go for a walk - sometimes helps.
  • Walk in a store (even in the grocery store) as there are plenty of distractions
  • Get out of the house @Erell I know you are mostly house-bound - but when you can get out - this might helpl you. :)
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21 hours ago, Guilietta said:

 The beauty of learning on youtube is that you ask the teacher to repeat an unlilmited amount of times 

I love this sentence 😄😄😄 So true !

 

I also learned To embroider on YouTube 😉

 

Great tips Guilietta, thank you !

2006 : 20mg Paroxetine + Bromazepam(no specific dose) (2008 : cold turkey of both)

2010 : 20mg Deroxat + Bromazepam

2013: Switch from Bromazepam To Prazepam (longer half-life)

2014-June2017 : Prazepam taper, 3% drops. 

2018 to August 2019 : Paroxetine 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22nd August updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paroxetine. 

April 2020-August 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21457-erell-struggling-with-paroxetine/?do=findComment&comment=499847

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

Current medication :  7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine (since 20 Aug 2020) + 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

 

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Ooh! I've got a couple! Perfect timing for this topic... 

Those of you in the Western hemisphere will have the colder, darker months to endure. These things would pair nicely with winter:

 

* Get a cheap and simple crockery pot (slow cooker) and revel in the ease with which you can make filling and delightful meals. I think this is perfect for those of us having trouble with food and cooking for ourselves. There are so many wondrous dishes. Slow cooking comes in only two steps: prepping ingredients and leaving them to cook for hours. I watched video of a man getting together some potatoes, carrots, some other simple veggies, throwing them into the pot, and having a beautiful meal of roasted veggies that probably lasted him a couple of days. Ah, here it is:

 

* Loom knitting - buy one of those simple and cheap knitting looms, with which you can make wall hangings. So many benefits. It is a soothing, grounding, meditative activity. And you will make lovely art that will grace your walls. I'm sure many of us can use a boost of eclectic, handmade beauty to our living surroundings. Something like this: 

 

(oh, and rant: please don't use acrylic yarn, if you can afford natural yarn. Synthetics end up as microplastics and adversely affect everything on earth.)

 

 

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05/21/16: Began Zoloft taper - 10% from 150mg - 137ish mg

06/23/16: Zoloft taper - 125mg

08/03/16: Bupropion XL taper - cut 150mg pill in crude half (mistake)

10/31: Zoloft successfully down to 100mg. Staying on 100mg for 2-3 months to let my brain rest.

11/09: Wellbutrin SR prescribed, 150mg once a day, for withdrawal.

12/11: Wellbutrin SR, twice daily - minus 18ishmg = 112.50mg

09/30/17: Off Wellbutrin SR successfully. Zoloft taper: 90ish mg (shaving it off). Trazodone: still at 50mg.

June 2018: Zoloft: 80ish (shaving off). Trazodone: 6mg. End of 2018: Off Trazodone.

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21 hours ago, Erell said:

I also learned To embroider on YouTube 😉

 

 

Awesome! Do you do counted cross stitch? Petit point? Or other?

 

What types of things have you made?

 

I used to do counted cross stitch - and made some pictures for people as gifts.

 

It is good because it forces you to count - like knitting - so it is a good wya tofocus/distract yourself withotu being 'thinky.'

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On 11/22/2019 at 4:12 PM, Guilietta said:

 

Awesome! Do you do counted cross stitch? Petit point? Or other?

 

What types of things have you made?

 

I used to do counted cross stitch - and made some pictures for people as gifts.

 

It is good because it forces you to count - like knitting - so it is a good wya tofocus/distract yourself withotu being 'thinky.'

 

I try To learn different stich,  Thanks To YouTube 😄 Can't say i'm good at it, but it helps To distract!

2006 : 20mg Paroxetine + Bromazepam(no specific dose) (2008 : cold turkey of both)

2010 : 20mg Deroxat + Bromazepam

2013: Switch from Bromazepam To Prazepam (longer half-life)

2014-June2017 : Prazepam taper, 3% drops. 

2018 to August 2019 : Paroxetine 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22nd August updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paroxetine. 

April 2020-August 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21457-erell-struggling-with-paroxetine/?do=findComment&comment=499847

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

Current medication :  7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine (since 20 Aug 2020) + 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

 

Website : https://selibererdelapsychiatrie.wordpress.com/

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On 8/3/2011 at 6:07 PM, Altostrata said:

Awww, thanks you guys. Glad it helps.

it does .  i am watching hbo now ..lol   just kidding 

 

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