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Woodhull

I am looking for someone who has had the problem.

I don't feel like spending  the time or money for doctors again. 

 

I just did the FMT procedure and i do feel better but this symptom is not gone.

Maybe time will heal the problem, but i don't want to give up looking for another way.  

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Junglechicken
4 minutes ago, Woodhull said:

I am looking for someone who has had the problem.

I don't feel like spending  the time or money for doctors again. 

 

I just did the FMT procedure and i do feel better but this symptom is not gone.

Maybe time will heal the problem, but i don't want to give up looking for another way.  

 

I understand.

 

The FMT procedure is pioneering stuff from what I understand - glad you're feeling better.

 

 

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bheb

Hi Woodhull, I think I also have something like this. Have you gotten any better?

 

My sensation feels like something heavy is sitting on my chest and throat. It's kind of like that choked up feeling you get when you want to hold back tears except i have it 24/7 and it doesn't seem to fluctuate with stress. 

 

What I'm thinking is that it's either side effect/withdrawal, some anxiety process that's gotten stuck so that I feel it even when I'm not anxious. Or, GERD or some other gastrointestinal or endocrine issue?? And of course antidepressants can contribute to the latter possibilities. 

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Junglechicken
1 hour ago, bheb said:

Hi Woodhull, I think I also have something like this. Have you gotten any better?

 

My sensation feels like something heavy is sitting on my chest and throat. It's kind of like that choked up feeling you get when you want to hold back tears except i have it 24/7 and it doesn't seem to fluctuate with stress. 

 

What I'm thinking is that it's either side effect/withdrawal, some anxiety process that's gotten stuck so that I feel it even when I'm not anxious. Or, GERD or some other gastrointestinal or endocrine issue?? And of course antidepressants can contribute to the latter possibilities. 

 

Hi bheb,

 

I know this feeling.

 

Towards the end of last year, I had some major crying spells (due to my father's terminal illness), I cried and cried and cried and cried......couldn't stop.  A total emotional outpouring, you could say.

 

The physical manifestation of those emotions were such that it was as though I had a weight sitting on my chest, I also felt as though I wanted to throw up (and almost did).

 

A homeopath I saw mentioned the throat chakra (referred to by VitaminB above). 

 

She said that for women, our emotional issues can get stuck in the throat area (thyroid issues), and for men its the heart area (heart issues).

 

Emotional issues have a LOT to answer for in terms of our overall health.

 

JC

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bheb
On 1/25/2018 at 11:23 AM, Junglechicken said:

 

Hi bheb,

 

I know this feeling.

 

Towards the end of last year, I had some major crying spells (due to my father's terminal illness), I cried and cried and cried and cried......couldn't stop.  A total emotional outpouring, you could say.

 

The physical manifestation of those emotions were such that it was as though I had a weight sitting on my chest, I also felt as though I wanted to throw up (and almost did).

 

A homeopath I saw mentioned the throat chakra (referred to by VitaminB above). 

 

She said that for women, our emotional issues can get stuck in the throat area (thyroid issues), and for men its the heart area (heart issues).

 

Emotional issues have a LOT to answer for in terms of our overall health.

 

JC

 

I'm sorry about your father--that must be hard to deal with on top of everything. 

 

I definitely relate to emotional issues finding physical outlets. However, for me, it doesn't seem to increase with emotional stress. Just kind of a neutral dull clenching at all times.

 

Did the chakra help you?

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NobodySpecial

Hey @Woodhull and @bheb,

 

How are you going with this?

 

I have struggled with this for about 1.5 years and have figured out how to resolve it for myself.

 

I didn't find the chakra system useful, and I think that it's supposed to be more of a representational system or a metaphorical map for the body, rather than a direct truth.

 

The chakra stream of thought led me to obsessively trying to purge my emotions and obsessing over the idea that something was stuck or that I wasn't speaking my truth (and other wacky ideas). 

 

I think that it comes about because we have this stress response (globus sensation) and then we try to fix it and obsess about it. When we think about it, we're slowly adding a narrative to the sensation and it's slowly going to become something that it doesn't need to be. We try to figure out what it is, and create this growing monster of anxiety because we're fighting against something that is actually just a natural sensation and response to anxiety.

 

I fixed it through acceptance, compassion and mindfulness. I decided to treat the sensation as something that wanted me to care for it, and spoke to it internally like "I love you, you're welcome to stay as long as you need". It seems a little far out, but this problem is stress based and trying to "fix" it just made the sensation worse because I'm still fighting against it.

 

My approach was to treat it with kindness. Whenever I started thinking about it, I'd gently bring my awareness back to the actual sensation. When we actually experience the sensation, we're allowing it to be there without any resistance or fixing.

 

Simplified, the whole approach is to treat this thing like a house guest and as if you have to live with it forever. You have to welcome it in, care for it and accept it.

 

Something to remember is that it takes A LOT of practice to work with this sensation, and it's easy to interpret the fact that we don't get immediate results as it not working. 

 

When I first had it, it lasted for 6 months before I started working with it as I mentioned above. Then, it eventually just disappeared. 

 

It then returned a few months later, I obsessed about it for a few weeks before returning to the above method, and it went away.

 

It's paradoxical, but it only ever goes away when we're willing and comfortable with the thought that it may be with us forever.

 

Now when it returns, I always have a "hello old friend" response to it and welcome it in.

 

I'll break down my approach below:

 

1. Practice mindfulness of sensation with the throat pressure. Whenever you start to think or obsess about it, bring your attention back to the sensation. You will have to keep doing this, the benefit is in the returning to the sensation after you drift back into thought.

 

2. Practice self-compassion and acceptance. Once you can contact it mindfully, you can speak to it. I find that speaking to it and welcoming it in helps my nervous system relax and stops any unessecary stress around the sensation.

 

3. Have faith, it could take a while. You won't find any resources online that give you the concrete certainty that you can fix this - trust me, I've been there. Have faith in the process, keep practicing. Eventually, you'll be so okay with it being there that you don't even notice when it leaves one day.

 

The whole idea is to not fix, fight against or diagnose the sensation. Just welcome it in and work with it.

 

This may seem a little far out, but it's actually here to teach you how to practice compassion and acceptance. This shift in mindset helps you move from victim to empowered, because the sensation can be used as a tool for growth.

 

Remember, you're not alone and this isn't a personal problem. You're working with this for everybody, not just yourself. 

 

Message me if you need other tips :)

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bheb
14 hours ago, NobodySpecial said:

 

I have struggled with this for about 1.5 years and have figured out how to resolve it for myself.

 

Wow, thanks for this. I'll give it a shot. Glad you're doing better. 

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NobodySpecial

Looking forward to seeing how it goes for you @bheb :)

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Junglechicken

I'm back "here" again with throat issues - GERD, thyroid, emotional (5th chakra)???

 

I'm not sure of the cause.

 

I can only say that the pain became MUCH worse after I "divorced" my mother last weekend.

 

Am on PPIs (Pantaprazole), and taking "Gaviscom", apple cider vinegar to adjust any acidity issues in my gut.  The pain is till there.

 

Bracing myself for possible endoscopy investigation if it doesn't subside.

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Ottonymous

I absolutely relate. I have dealt with a heaviness on the throat/tightness/choking sensation since I was 11. When I was 12 I actually ended up at a speech therapist who had me try swallowing different things and she felt my throat for physiological difficulties swallowing! this lead me to my first psychiatrist actually, and to my first medication (Prozac). 

Sometimes I think about it symbolically. Like when I feel choked up I go, "I hear you. What are you trying to say? Is there something I'm not saying? Am I being heard/am I hearing myself?" I know for me this feeling came about from 8 years of serious suppression, shame, and not speaking for myself. I think for me it was embodied by this feeling. 

I like to sort of hum with different tones when I feel that. Not to "fix" the tightness but to create a sense of curiosity. I wonder what this would feel like if I hummed as deeply as I could. What about if I go up and down real fast? In my chest? Throat? Mouth? Tongue? I find turning anxiety and uncertainty into genuine interest for what I'm feeling is self validating and helpful.

 

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Junglechicken

This is a note to self, for issues with my throat - the  "throat chakra".

 

Someone else mentioned this on the "Swallowing and throat problems" thread found in the symptoms and self care area of the forum.

 

In my case, since my father died, and left with my mother (who NEVER lets me speak, and STILL NEVER lets me speak as what I had to say was never of importance to her); I've had issues with my upper digestive tract, i.e GERD.  I think the extract below, taken from the following website, explains a lot of physical issues which are derived from the emotional problems we all face in our lives at one point or another:

 

http://www.inner-truth.net/healing/chakras/throatchakra.html

 

Throat Chakra

Name: Throat Chakra
Colour: Blue

The Throat Chakra is associated with your Self Expression and Communication.

When it is in balance, you are able to listen and communicate well. When you are having trouble expressing yourself, or having trouble with communication (being unable to say what you want to say to others and/or not truly listening to what you are being told) the throat chakra becomes imbalanced.

An imbalance will first resonate as a tingle, ache or sensitivity in the throat region. (Stemming from the base of the neck to the ears).

Aches and Pains

Even small tingles and aches can be a sign that something needs to be addressed. As soon as the emotional issue has been resolved, the ache WILL clear up or simply completely vanish.

Can manifest quickly as an unexpected cough, or manifest as feeling like a lump is in your throat (feeling choked up) and/or trouble when swallowing.

Aches, tingles and pain located around the Throat, Mouth and Neck. Including toothache, sore tongue, sensitive gums, tonsils, sore throats and tickly coughs.

Physical/ Medical issues

Sore throats, loss of voice, coughs, mouth ulcers and ear infections.

If the issue is left unattended to, may lead on to more serious issues such as.

  • Thyroid problems - over active/ under-active;
  • Anorexia nervosa
  • asthma
  • bronchitis
  • hearing problems, tinnitus
  • problems of the upper digestive tract,
  • mouth ulcers, sore throats, tonsillitis.

Emotional Issues

When in balance the throat chakra offers us; faithfulness, an ability to express yourself and your ideas, good communication skills, will power and honesty.

Imbalances are caused by being unfaithful (to either yourself or to others), A feeling of not being heard, or not being able to express your ideas/who you are. Feeling afraid to talk about things, lack of honesty (to yourself and/or others), Lack of willpower and lying.

It only takes one of these emotional conditions to form an imbalance, the intensity of which will be in direct relation. As you become more aware of yourself and the link between your emotional and physical aspects of you, your body responds more quickly to even the slightest emotional imbalance.

Relative Questions

If you an imbalance in your throat chakra. Look at the following questions honestly to help seek balance.
It is useful to answer all the questions initially with YES / NO / MAYBE and then go back and work through all the YES answers and the MAYBE answers.

Those you answer YES to; you can try to find a way to resolve the issue. When the issue is resolved, your ache or illness WILL subside.

Are you keeping things to yourself?

Are you afraid/worried about speaking out?

Do you feel your opinions can not be voiced?

Do you feel that you are not being true to yourself?

Are you afraid of the truth?

Are you afraid of speaking the truth?

Do you have something to say, but not sure how to say it?

Are you having trouble doing something you want to do?

Re-balancing

Individual rebalancing will depend entirely on the specific issue. But especially with the throat chakra, it is especially good to write things down.

Please note that an imbalance is not only caused by a weakened chakra. The aim is to have all chakras in complete balance with each other. If six are weak and one is strong it could mean you are OVER confident, OVER trusting, OVER creative etc.. thus re-balancing must either involve increasing the size of all the other chakras or reducing the influence of the strong chakra.

Self Expression is paramount and if you have answered the relative questions above; you will likely have an idea as to what needs resolving.

The following articles may be useful reading in accordance with throat chakra issues

Colour Therapy

Blue is the colour associated to the Sacral Chakra.

Crystal Therapy.

Crystals which can be used in association with the Throat Chakra are;

  • Lapis Lazuli
  • Blue Quartz
  • Turquoise
  • Lazulite

Aromatherapy

Oils and Incense which can be used, associated with the throat chakra are

  • Frankincense
  • Camomile
  • Sandalwood.

Nutrition

Water, Lemons & Limes (and some other Citrus Fruits), Apples and Peaches can help you to cleanse, clear and open up your throat chakra.

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NobodySpecial

@Junglechicken, read my post above regarding this. Have you actually had direct benefit from this chakra information? I find it really unhelpful and can make an issue 'stickier'

than it needs to be.

 

Most people who write these articles are recycling other articles written by somebody else who had recycled something. It's quite hollow information.

 

If you want to investigate, you should seek out a professional versed in somatic experiencing or something like that, addressing the issue psychsomatically. 

 

I think the chakra system was just representational - meaning it's just the map, not the terrain.

 

I've worked through this myself and am happy to answer any qs.

 

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Junglechicken
On 26 January 2018 at 5:18 PM, bheb said:

 

I'm sorry about your father--that must be hard to deal with on top of everything. 

 

I definitely relate to emotional issues finding physical outlets. However, for me, it doesn't seem to increase with emotional stress. Just kind of a neutral dull clenching at all times.

 

Did the chakra help you?

 

I haven't got around to studying or applying 5th Chakra bheb.

 

My throat is still really bad, and so is my mouth.

 

Booked to see Dr and dentist next week...will see what happens.

 

How is your throat now?

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bheb
4 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

I haven't got around to studying or applying 5th Chakra bheb.

 

My throat is still really bad, and so is my mouth.

 

Booked to see Dr and dentist next week...will see what happens.

 

How is your throat now?

 

Oh! I almost forgot I had this symptom -- well, that shows you that it's better! I applied the advice @NobodySpecial gave. And I think it has worked for me, the acceptance mantra. And when the chest/throat suffocation comes back I feel it bothers me less?

 

Ah I hope your appointments aren't too stressful. Are they to help these symptoms or other issues?

 

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NobodySpecial

@bheb, what a relief! That happened to me as well, forgot it was a problem until it came back and bothered me WAY less. Now 'it' comes and goes like a welcomed house guest, usually with 3 - 4 months between visits!

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Woodhull

@bheb I have not gotten any better. One year off Effexor 150mg, still living HELL. 

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Rezten

I have a thick feeling in my throat.  I notice when I'm swallowing like something is stuck.  I assume it's a withdrawal symptom since it started several months ago well into withdrawal.  

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Rezten

For the past few months I have felt like something is stuvk in my throat.  At first i assumed it was WD related but it has been like this for about 3 months or so. I also feel like my ears need to pop.   I can swallow fine but it feels like something is stuck there.

 

In reading previous posts it looks like others have had similar issues and eventually it will go away.  I dont really want to go to Dr. As she is not supportive about withdrawal.  

 

Can anyone share any insight?

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Callie

Hello, Rezten!

 

I've been reading about cranial nerves lately since I had seen a nurse practitioner who told me that all of our nerves and neural pathways have gone haywire after stopping ADs and that it takes some time for them to settle down. This led me to discover information about cranial nerves on the Internet and found that Cranial Nerve IX, the glossopharyngeal, connects the brain to the throat, tongue, and tonsils. Previous to discovering this, I was thinking that perhaps I just feel my uvula in my throat as my sense of touch throughout my body is super hypersensitive. It still might be that, as I not only have that sensation of something stuck in my throat, but my mouth and tongue--not to mention my entire body--are riddled with strange sensations as well. To conclude, and this is just my theory, the cranial nerves are at play here.

 

I'm not sure if you're aware of trigger points in the body. I'm trying to find the one that influences Cranial Nerve IX. I have found relief for other strange sensations in my head by pressing on the trigger points that connect to other cranial nerves. To keep this simple, I have found a trigger point in my neck that relieves strange sensations in the back of my head. I have also found trigger points on my face that relieve the head pressure I experience in my head and the sensation of having a swollen face.

 

Because of individual differences, I'm not certain that what helps me will help anyone else. It might not hurt to read about trigger points and see if working with them would bring any relief to you. Regardless, I wish you well.

 

Sending healing thoughts your way!

 

Callie

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Rezten
7 minutes ago, Callie said:

I've been reading about cranial nerves lately since I had seen a nurse practitioner who told me that all of our nerves and neural pathways have gone haywire after stopping ADs and that it takes some time for them to settle down.

Hi Callie.  Thank you for the information.  Its helpful to be reassured.  You are lucky to have an NP that understands.  Mine just thinks that everything is related to my "anxiety disorder" and I am not in WD.

 

Thank you again!

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papaloapan

Aside from Hibari, does anyone else has suffered from dry throat and mouth? I used to do daily vocal/singing exercises but while tapering my medications, while doing a vocal exercise, I was not able to do it well because my voice started to sound weak and bad. I went with an otolaryngologist, he put a camera in my throat and clearly my throat and vocal chords appear to be very dry. My question is, does the dryness ever go away? I'm terrified about this because I was preparing myself to be a professional singer.

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