westcoast Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 In researching my essay about Lubitz I found a LOT of interesting stuff, people discussing problems with psych drugs. the difference between them and SA is they still think the drugs will work if they just find the right one or combo. This one was almost funny, at the end. BTW "MG seeds" are morning glory seeds, which are psychoactive, maybe psychedelic. http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/42856-post-ssri-anhedonia 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 This one is downright sad. Who are these people? They do crazy things with psych meds. Given the title, the later posts are predictable... Like kehcorpz. He starts off on 75 MG effexor, and makes big leaps against his doctors instructions, until he is at 375MG, then pretty much disappears from the board. http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f30/venlafaxine-effexor-amazing-229469/ 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I can't read them anymore so I can't comment I have taken myself out of that discussion as it is now ridiculous to me WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 I would not enter into one of those groups either. 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I don't drink the cool aid I can't watch others drink it either... or listen to them talk... it pains me. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsports Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 In researching my essay about Lubitz I found a LOT of interesting stuff, people discussing problems with psych drugs. the difference between them and SA is they still think the drugs will work if they just find the right one or combo. This one was almost funny, at the end. BTW "MG seeds" are morning glory seeds, which are psychoactive, maybe psychedelic. http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/42856-post-ssri-anhedonia I was exactly like that. It was only when I realized that when my psychiatrist said that TCAs would be my next option for my main antidepressant and that I no longer had any desire to keep trying meds this was a clue it was time for me to take a different appoach which led to getting off of them. I was brainwashed for quite awhile as I suspect these folks are. Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010 Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006 Finished taper on June 10, 2010 Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016 Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Very interesting outcome. Plus, yet another person who has the bad bad troubles on drugs. Why? What predicts it? For 12 years I've struggled going from Dr to Dr trying to figure out what's wrong with me. I am without a doubt BP and the other thing they just couldn't figure out. After almost 2 years with the same dr, I went into his office completely fed up because I felt like literal s*** and was over it.I have been on everything. 12 years worth. He put me on Lamictal and I take 200mg which seems to work I guess but the depression was still there. He put me on Latuda which should have been sugar pills because they did absolutely nothing. Then wellbutrin.. Hello PSYCHO alert.. I went crazy. Then gabapentin for the depressive episodes .. Nothing, just ridiculous irritability. Then on to Abilify which worked for about 3 days then I didn't sleep for a week because the 5mg made me manic and I stayed up all night mind racing. He upped it to 10mg and I couldn't sit still, I had to keep moving it was absolute torture. It felt like restless leg syndrome in my entire body!! So then I went on Saphris.. Sedation. All I can use to describe it. It tastes disgusting and made me so stoned I literally would get up in the middle of the night to make a sandwich IN MY SLEEP. I gained 10 pounds in a month and had restless legs from it. This last visit he asked about my drug history. I said I did them many years ago and I would never again. Then he asked "what happened when u did cocaine?" I said I felt awesome and would get everything done and would go to bed. He was surprised, he couldn't believe I actually slept on that drug and says "I'm almost positive you have ADD, very few people can even lie down when on cocaine and you actually had a full nights sleep. he put me on Adderall and gonna say I felt so WEIRD and disconnected from my body but the anger (like I had hot lava running through my veins) is gone and so is the sadness. The crying before work, during lunch and after work. Sometimes when I'd take showers I would just sit in there an cry and I have a,burden listed off of me because,I don't feel that. I just hope this time we finally got to the bottom of this. Thanks for reading! 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 A lot of people have symptoms of bi polar when put on Ad drugs I do wonder if it is not just Ad side effects. There is an old saying around this and other sites like that goes like this "you can't dx a person with a disorder when they are on drug or in withdrawal from drugs" Since he asked her how she was on drugs before psych drugs I guess he was trying to find out what her base line actually was before all the previous drugs... to me I am not sure how important that would be since her old base line is not her baseline now...post several years of drugging withdrawals ect. I don't know how one should feel on cocaine or if it is impossible to sleep on it but I am a member at an illegal drug site and I could find out if it is as impossible as this one doctor things. Yes I am jaded you know that I want to check everything ... don't believe much that falls outside my experience. Now ADD... I don't know about ADD do I have to learn everything ugh... what I have read about it is that university students take it and some go crazy taking it One guy made the papers last year and there was a tv show about him an over achiever who ended up addicted and died taking adderal. Is she chasing the dragon... taking anything to get back to a less painful life... would any of use blame her...not me. I have done it over and over again the fact that is a different drug and suddenly a different dx when who knows what she was on or wd from when he chose to give her this drug.. or what other things had already changed her brain... a lot of doubt in my mind but I am not a doctor... I have had a different dx in mid stream of drug treatment .. many of them. Were any of them fitting of me before I took an psych drug no they were not I had pain in my leg from a car accident... that is how I came in. The other point is he a bad doctor... I wonder.. he made her life more livable just like many of my doctors did. Did any of my doctors know about withdrawal I don't know it was a long time ago should they have known... of course but that is the trick of this whole thing isn't it... We are given drugs that nobody know how they work and we find out by trial and error ..is this doctor doing anything new I doubt it will she end up where we are eventually I don't know. Is it interesting sure it is all of it is if your not the one suffering ...interesting makes a good read does it change anything no not really. This is the sort of thing that has been going on for years downers make you depressed so you get an antidepressant to get up... sometimes maybe even an upper ... I did not watch valley of the dolls but I heard there were a lot of addicts back then to all sorts of drugs... once they were found out new drugs were invented and we started all over again. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 I was reading that too. In the 50s it was tranqs, until they noticed addictions. And speed, too, until the 60s. And yes that is why they launched the tricylclics and the rest. And guess what? Scholar.google.com searches show me a lot of research un recent years in resorting to amphetamines, especially dexedrine, for depression in medically or terminally ill people. Made me wonder if staying with little yellow pills would have been as hard on society as what we ended up with. Gov stats say 2.3 million emergency admissions for pharmaceuticals--AD, AP, and benzo--per year, up 84% between 2005 and 2011. Illicit drugs? 1.3 million (fewer people use them, of course) and STABLE between 2004 and 2011. You would thing the gov would twig to this? Must cost the taxpayer a lot. Know what? That is the way to get the whole right wing pissing mad. That gal above ended up posting about side effects within a few days too, but wasn't freaking out (yet). We all know how many people react to their first AD and get slapped with bipolar and then do the cocktail dance from then on. Looking at the meds boards reminds me how darned lucky we are here, even after what some of went though which as I know has been like hell, and I know some are still deeply down there, and maybe that is the worst. But anyway if we had not broken free I fear most of us would be posting like that or suffering in ignorance. Weird thing, I went back to 2005 on a drug board, and it was mainly effexor, and there was much more negativity! Lots more anger about doctors and pharma, and saying the drugs did this and they want to sue. By the present, those sentiments are rarely seen. Same admin, different vibe. I should look and see if the cocktails were as prevalent back then. Well, I hope things will start moving in the right direction. Right now the Healys and the Breggins are easily dismissed as deranged conspiracy theorists, and that means their knowledge with not even be looked at, all their data and reports simply not available. Uh huh. Just searched NYTimes Your search - Dr.David Healy - did not match any documents. 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 I was wrong about ER visits. That figure was for all drugs, not just psych drugs. For AD there was a rise of 119% percent, not 84%, nut the number is way smaller. It is all here, in Table 33. http://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/DAWN2k11ED/DAWN2k11ED/DAWN2k11ED.pdf 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 "Weird thing, I went back to 2005 on a drug board, and it was mainly effexor, and there was much more negativity! Lots more anger about doctors and pharma, and saying the drugs did this and they want to sue. By the present, those sentiments are rarely seen.' I wonder why? do you think they could change what is in a drug without telling anyone maybe it is not as bad as it use to be... it use to bad... who knows what they really do ... like drug dealers who is going to check .. who would know what is put in your drugs... I wonder why there is a big difference maybe we as a human race are just more beat down into stupidity maybe we already figured out no lawyer will take an Effexor case so why bother we are told here too that we can't sue.. cause all the warnings are on the drugs now and that is not true BECAUSE many of us here have been on the drugs BEFORE the warning went on the package. STill I tried and tried to get a lawyer and none would take a case against a drug company.... unless I had a baby that died while I was taking an AD... or if I had killed myself they may take a case from my offspring... only death gets you a lawyer....or so it seems. Small firms can;'t stay in court decade after decade without any income for their work... pharma lawyers can they have tons of money they have all our money we paid for drugs WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 I think that in the discussion boards it is more a matter of the philosophy of the admins, tolerating it less and less as time goes by. Any maybe in the beginning there were fewer polydrugged. The poly drugged are so far gone that they can hardly point at a single drug and blame it, plus spellbound for years, bless their hearts. I don't know...another thing...the polydrugged meds lists don't seem to include Effexor. Hard to really say because I am just surfing around, not doing stats... 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I was on Effexor and Celexa is that poly drugged... it is two I think anyone in wd will have problems with their brains ... I could not open my email account for months after I ct off Effexor that is how badly my brain was affected. It could also be that people have caved just given in to the pharma marketing machine have accepted the policies are bought and politics - voting no longer means a thing so why bother... the path of least resistance that causes the least pain ... may be the one people choose to take... anything else does appear to be less rewarding WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 No email for months? Mine didn't last that long, but I had serious problems. I couldn't order medical supplies. I could see the page but no matter how hard I tried I couldn't type. My head would get this feeling like a burn, and I couldn't make my hands move. If I could maybe click and item that would be it. I would sort of lose consciousness. I lost my phone number of 10 years duration because I couldn't make calls or pay online. it was horrible know it was slipping away but I could not do it, period. My dad who is very old tried to do it for me but the site was too complicated. So I went without and you can PM me if you want to know what that was like! =================================================================== Back to the effexor thing...I'll pay more attention on my next safari into pharmaphilia. =================================================================== Last night I found a sad but very interesting thread on bluelight TRIGGER WARNING - NSFW - NOT SAFE FOR RECOVERING DRUG USERS - which is a site where people who use all kinds of drugs talk about it. This kid got locked up and the APs wrecked him...he tells of things that helped, but it's nothing that'd be endorsed here just yet, though is being studied for depression, ptsd, and maybe anxiety. Also a wacked out discussion. To search the site you must have an account, so I don't know how he got on. http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/604465-Permanent-damage-from-Abilify-and-Olanzapine-Zyprexa 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 No email for months? Mine didn't last that long, but I had serious problems. I couldn't order medical supplies. I could see the page but no matter how hard I tried I couldn't type. My head would get this feeling like a burn, and I couldn't make my hands move. If I could maybe click and item that would be it. I would sort of lose consciousness. I lost my phone number of 10 years duration because I couldn't make calls or pay online. it was horrible know it was slipping away but I could not do it, period. My dad who is very old tried to do it for me but the site was too complicated. So I went without and you can PM me if you want to know what that was like! =================================================================== Back to the effexor thing...I'll pay more attention on my next safari into pharmaphilia. =================================================================== Last night I found a sad but very interesting thread on bluelight TRIGGER WARNING - NSFW - NOT SAFE FOR RECOVERING DRUG USERS - which is a site where people who use all kinds of drugs talk about it. This kid got locked up and the APs wrecked him...he tells of things that helped, but it's nothing that'd be endorsed here just yet, though is being studied for depression, ptsd, and maybe anxiety. Also a wacked out discussion. To search the site you must have an account, so I don't know how he got on. http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/604465-Permanent-damage-from-Abilify-and-Olanzapine-Zyprexa I think that in the discussion boards it is more a matter of the philosophy of the admins, tolerating it less and less as time goes by." Do you wonder why that would be? I do wonder surely with what has been done to us all that would make a reasonable title of a thread. Even this seemlingly sensible man who is partly recovered says he is very angry... wants justice. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7181-from-council-for-evidence-based-psychiatry-paul-and-effexor-cold-turkey/ I actually love the bluelight link think the last post is priceless. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Do you wonder why that would be? I do wonder surely with what has been done to us all that would make a reasonable title of a thread. Maybe they have to combat more sophisticated complainers nowadays. I went to look but got mired and had to escape. About that kid... I had to go look at that last comment. A thread killer to be sure! They are poisons to those that need them as well. These drugs are meant as a last resort but are marketed for virtually everything. Legit patients may have their symptoms disappear but they still get obese, diabetic, brain damaged to the point of permanent dyskinesias and depressed. There is a small population of psychotics whose lives are made manageable by them but the are over prescribed to a psychopathic extreme. Neuroleptics are used as chemical restraints in prisons and to subdue troublesome foster children as well as difficult geriatrics. It is criminal and demented. They are passive aggressive domination poisons society can call medicine. What Ninae said is absolutely correct and you are naive to say otherwise. I did find out what happened to the kid. He said in his first post that he smoked pot and liked mushrooms, but didn't like amphetamines or alcohol. In later posts he says he was diagnosed as schizophrenia but I'm not sure when. He ended up like this: "Starting a clean life tomorrow, been addicted to cannabis, amphetamines, benzos, anti-psychotics, alcohol and tobacco for many years. Just food, water and fresh air for me now." But he didn't. 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I wonder how many kids get messed up with drugs have a problem and from there goes the psych drugs. I wonder too how many are dx as having schizophrenia are having or have had a drug reaction... legal or illegal. Yes I am I am so Jaded... I think that in the discussion boards it is more a matter of the philosophy of the admins, tolerating it less and less as time goes by." talk of suing ect.. could not sure for pain and suffering even if it was on a drug monograph some place ... for me personally I was drugged before any of those warning,, so none of that crap applies... Iots of other people here were drugged as long as I was same story for them. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 This is about Naltrexone, which treats a syndrome that looks like ad wd (it treats side effects of interferon, which might friend said were awful. I put it here because someone's giving it a try, but I didn't think drugs-forum belong over on the support side of things. https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137577 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamfine Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 When I used to be caught in the trap I frequented a couple pro-med boards. They can be just as convincing as this site. One thing that I found is that there are fanatics in both camps so you gotta be careful no matter where you get your info. I like this group best. As requested. In the last 3 years to the best of my recollection I first dropped the max dose of Lamictal. Yes I just stopped it was doing absolutely nothing. Then I dropped Lexapro, that was even easier I had been on and off that a dozen times before. There were at least 2 odd off label attempts at anxiety that I won’t be able to remember. Then there was sweet/evil Seroquel. That was the last to go it’s been around 16 months. Lithium, Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Celexa, Lamictal, Lexapro, Luvox, Viibryd, Brintellix, Pristiq, Zoloft, Seroquel, Zyprexa, Geodon, Abilify, Latuda, Ritalin, Adderall, Valium, Clonazepam, Alprazolam, Propanalol, Spravato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Me too. Actually one person on this site said she is trying Naltrexone, and I was looking around to see if it caused dependency...and found that page. I didn't want to put a nasty old drug page where people are trying to get healthy, so I stuck it here. I'll put a note in it. BTW a little bit ago something cute caught my eye when I was looking at topics. It's kind of hard to see but all the bird people were perching together. I like the members here, and I relate somewhat to bluelight and drugs-forum. They're mainly aware of what they're doing. I pretend I'm in a armored spaceship when I go to crazyboards and crazytalk (or meds?) because it's like a sci-fi universe where nothing makes sense. "THE DRUGS ARE KEEPING YOU MISERABLE, PEOPLE!" 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamfine Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Yes crazy boards was one I used to visit a lot. I've been on 24 psych meds people, I would probably know by now what works and what doesn't. As requested. In the last 3 years to the best of my recollection I first dropped the max dose of Lamictal. Yes I just stopped it was doing absolutely nothing. Then I dropped Lexapro, that was even easier I had been on and off that a dozen times before. There were at least 2 odd off label attempts at anxiety that I won’t be able to remember. Then there was sweet/evil Seroquel. That was the last to go it’s been around 16 months. Lithium, Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Celexa, Lamictal, Lexapro, Luvox, Viibryd, Brintellix, Pristiq, Zoloft, Seroquel, Zyprexa, Geodon, Abilify, Latuda, Ritalin, Adderall, Valium, Clonazepam, Alprazolam, Propanalol, Spravato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 How was Brintellix? It sounds awful from what others say, even True Believers in Pharma™ 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamfine Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 How was Brintellix? It sounds awful from what others say, even True Believers in Pharma™ Brintellix kindly gave me a month of severe anxiety. To me it was truly evil. And it's one of the new improved ssri's. As requested. In the last 3 years to the best of my recollection I first dropped the max dose of Lamictal. Yes I just stopped it was doing absolutely nothing. Then I dropped Lexapro, that was even easier I had been on and off that a dozen times before. There were at least 2 odd off label attempts at anxiety that I won’t be able to remember. Then there was sweet/evil Seroquel. That was the last to go it’s been around 16 months. Lithium, Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Celexa, Lamictal, Lexapro, Luvox, Viibryd, Brintellix, Pristiq, Zoloft, Seroquel, Zyprexa, Geodon, Abilify, Latuda, Ritalin, Adderall, Valium, Clonazepam, Alprazolam, Propanalol, Spravato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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