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Madison1

I went CT from and SSRI and immediately started taking Prozac. I think that masked some of my symptoms so I had some immediate tingling, depression, etc but the headache and off balance feeling comes in waves. I didn't have my first symptom until about 5 months after. Here I am almost 3 years later in the middle of another episode/wave. 

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IrishMonkey92

I went CT from and SSRI and immediately started taking Prozac. I think that masked some of my symptoms so I had some immediate tingling, depression, etc but the headache and off balance feeling comes in waves. I didn't have my first symptom until about 5 months after. Here I am almost 3 years later in the middle of another episode/wave. 

 

Thank you for the reply. Did anything provoke your symptoms at 5 months at all? Like mine being alcohol. 

 

Any you any better at 3 years now? How long were you on the drug you CT'd from? How would you best describe your off balance sensation? 

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Madison1

Yes....a major life change and emotional stress. It was very emotional for me. In the process I moved across the country too with my three kids. I am better now at 3 years BUT have the waves of symptoms. I've had this one since September off and on. Mostly tension headache feeling, eyes off a little, I feel like I'm buzzed or drunk with the off balance feeling. I was on Paxil and Cymbalta for about three years. I am very sensitive to medicine. I've never smoked, done any drugs and I don't drink. 

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anongrl5590

Hey IrishMonkey - 

 

I CT'd from Prozac after a year of using it and after one month of feeling ok, I suddenly got hit with minimal WD symptoms (brain zaps and hot flushes) with the windows/wave pattern. However, that suddenly changed and I got worse and worse with more symptoms adding up. I am  about 5.5 months out from my CT and the symptoms have morphed since the beginning and i don't get the windows/waves pattern anymore. I also get tinnitus that comes and goes and the very annoying eye floaters. My main symptoms right now are the burning brain, pins and needles, buzzing everywhere, chest tightness, and severe teeth and gums pain... I heard that if you did not have these symptoms before the drug, than it is due to withdrawal

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theloneranger86

I do . I miss that feeling everyday . I want to be back to enjoying my beer and having sex and everything I ever loved doing. Its like everything that I like is not a part of my life anymore. 

 

Why can't I ever find one single person who recovered from this ****. No one I ask has ever recovered from sexual dysfunction or this feeling of never being able to enjoy alcohol post quitting.

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gonzi

Hello,

I am new to this forum and using antidepressants. I am currently tapering olanzapine..

I want to ask you guys a question which i read somewhere about alcohol consumption and antidepressant usage.

In a forum which i don`t remember right now, someone says that alcohol and antidepressants are metabolized with the same enzime in the liver. Therefore, if you drink a lot of alcohol while taking lets say Paxil, it is metabolized much faster than it should and the person is almost like in cold turkey withdrawal. 

Does this make any sense ?

I realized if i drink, my symptoms gets much worse in the morning and the following 3 or 4 days 

 

BR, 

Gonzi

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scallywag

Gonzi, different medications are metabolized through different liver enzymes and this is often the cause of harmful drug interaction symptoms. This may occur between some medications and alcohol. With psych meds the issue seems to be that alcohol acts on the CNS (central nervous system). When we're reducing doses of psych meds we are making small changes that are potentially destabilizing changes to the CNS. Adding another CNS-destabilizing substance such as alcohol increases the risk of worsening symptoms or of adding symptoms.

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powerback

Hi tinker-- Drinking while taking ADs is not a good idea.  Been there, done that, almost destroyed my life.  There are several things to keep in mind, the first as CC pointed out is the interaction between the drug and alcohol.  Frequently the drug will intensify the effects of the alcohol while the alcohol can decrease the effectiveness of the drug.  The drug can mask the negative effects of alcohol such as the hangover or the realization that you've had too much.  The drugs also lower ones inhibitions and dull ones common sense leading to risky activities and binging.  And the big one is that many of these drugs actually increase a persons craving for alcohol to an extreme extent, making it very easy to consume way more than what is healthy or polite.

 

Once a person is tapering off of these drugs and is having WD symptoms the whole thing can switch very quickly. To the point that one can of beer or glass of wine can give you the hangover from h*** for several weeks and set off a bad wave of WD symptoms.  We have a large number of members that have experienced this first hand.

 

So after all of that the short answer is: Don't do it.

Totally agree brassmonkey about the alcohol,I'm 2 years sober and drinking was much worse on the drugs.I am very aware I'm lucky to escape this period of my life.

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ProzacWasCreatedBySatan1

Hey if I can be a helping hand, i've always been a party animal before my adverse reaction to Prozac. 9 months ago, if I even attempted to drink a beer I would have a panic attack. I can now go out and have some beers with friends. I can tell it's hindering my recovery, but I realistically think I will be writing a success story in the next year, so I continue to make bad decisions.

Alcohol doesn't give me quite the same effect, but it feels more like alcohol every time i do drink (instead of feeling like i'm being electricuted) Drinking still screws me up for the next week or so afterwards, and it inhibits my ability to go to the gym which i feel speeds up my recovery. I try to avoid it for the most part, but anything is worth it to get some relief from this ****. Exercise seems to do me better than alcohol though.

The main reason I still drink is to keep my girlfriend happy. We met in the rave scene so we used to do tons of drugs cocaine, ecstacy, LSD together. None of which screwed me up like Prozac lol. Well those drugs are what made me think I needed Prozac, but that's a whole other story.

She has made a lot of compromises for me, to stop doing drugs because of what they have done to my life. And yes I am aware Alcohol is a drug, but it is much more predictable than that other crap. She still likes to go to raves which are literally a living hell to me, so much ******* people, lazers, and drugs. So I suffocate the anxiety it gives me with alcohol, which actually works now. 6 months ago it would make life so much worse.

I know Aeroman and "I survived PSSD" success stories both recovery from erectile dysfunction, but both of them said it was the last thing to come back.

Sorry about the emotional venting, but hey we're on a recovery site lol. I hope I could be of help.

Moral of the story, you will recover, even if you don't do it by the books. It will probably be easier to do it the right way, but i've never lived that way. Cheers brotha!!! ????????????

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theloneranger86

I really appreciate all you guys out here. This is a support system I never knew would work for me. I just hope I can come back someday and give people real hope when they need it. Thanks ProzacwasCreatedbySatan1. Will see you around here  bro . 

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Revenge

I really never liked alcohol to begin with. I wish I COULD like it, just to be able to hang out with other people who drink, but unfortunately I can't get myself to like it at all. I find the taste yucky, and also the stink of it is distasteful. The feeling I get from it isn't a pleasant "high" that others describe. I only feel kinda sick, nothing else. Never did. Meds didn't change my distaste for it. Probably the change was further social disliking for drinking. And I say that with much humor.

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Ihateeffexor

I was recovering for 3 months and feeling better each day. Then I had some alcohol with friends (3-4 glasses of wine) twice, four days apart and after the second time all my symtoms came back, 10x worse. I've now been bedridden for a month, I'm in a terrible shape, and getting worse each day. Can this have caused permanent damage?.. I am so worried and scared right now.. 

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brassmonkey

Small amounts of alcohol have a bad habit of derailing a good recovery.  The "hangover" frequently will start a few days after the drinking and can last for several weeks before it starts to clear up.  Given time things should return to their predrink state and you will continue to recover.  It's really scary to get derailed like that, but it ends up being just a small setback.

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powerback
2 hours ago, Ihateeffexor said:

I was recovering for 3 months and feeling better each day. Then I had some alcohol with friends (3-4 glasses of wine) twice, four days apart and after the second time all my symtoms came back, 10x worse. I've now been bedridden for a month, I'm in a terrible shape, and getting worse each day. Can this have caused permanent damage?.. I am so worried and scared right now.. 

HI IHE ,I wouldn't focus on damage that cant be proven but you know yourself you will have to stay away from alcohol ,this recovery will probably be the most serious personal journey you and all of us will go through,it has to be taken extremely serious .I don't think I would of had the strength to get this far if I didn't  give up alcohol .I gave it up before withdrawal hit me .stay away from the alcohol and learn the non drug techniques and give yourself time ,I know its  painful but don't loose hope ,you will get there .

PB

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Ihateeffexor

Thank you Brassmonkey and powerback. I sincerely hope so, I had more than just a small amount the first night, I did drink quite a lot but I hope it won't set me back or derail me too much. I'll definitely give up alcohol, I am done with this forever I think. I don't want to feel this way ever again in the future. This is absolutely insane. Thank you both for being so kind and replying to me! 

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Oran

I was feeling better and stabilizing in December 2016 after one month of horrible Wds....then I drank on new years, I got a bit drunk but wasn't feeling bad. 6 days later I drank some wine with friends and ever since that night my general health have slowly declined (I am homebound since months) and I haven't had a window or stabilized yet. Does this mean that I am doomed Brassmonkey? I was not aware of how sensitive I was. I haven't got any hope left.. I think I must have made some serious harm to my brain cuz I am feeling worse every day. 10 months not a single day feeling better.. I hate myself for this. 

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powerback
11 hours ago, Ihateeffexor said:

Thank you Brassmonkey and powerback. I sincerely hope so, I had more than just a small amount the first night, I did drink quite a lot but I hope it won't set me back or derail me too much. I'll definitely give up alcohol, I am done with this forever I think. I don't want to feel this way ever again in the future. This is absolutely insane. Thank you both for being so kind and replying to me! 

your welcome IHE .you might be able to help recovery by cutting out all sugar and processed foods and get the best quality animal products you can afford .I personally am 11 days into a plant based wholefoods diet but only time and in a couple of weeks will tell if there's a difference in me .

Take care .

PB

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brassmonkey

Hi IMB-- my first thought was "my that was quick" I just left an answer to your pm to ask the question here on a thread.  Then I read the time stamp.  Anyway.  First off, don't hate yourself for what you're going through.  A New Years celebration and followup should not have caused this much trouble.  A few weeks would be much more like it.  Getting off of these drugs successfully is a very slow and controlled process.  From reading your signature and description of what happened, what you're feeling now is more than likely from back to back too fast tapers. It will take some time but things will start improving and recovery is possible. We recommend a 10% taper to minimize the symptoms WD will produce. It may still be possible to do a very small reinstatement to take the edge off of the symptoms.  We'll have to get some more information to help determine that.

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Oran

Hello again Brassmonkey. Thank you, you're very kind and I want to believe your words. Yeah, I didn't know that at the time, I would have done that if I'd know.  Ok, so a reinstatement.  I am 11 months off so I guess there's a small risk of a bad reaction now.  Do you think it could help me recover? or would it only prolong my recovery to do a small reinstatement? I mean, could a small reinstatement actually (help)  my brain recover, or would it only be a relief for the moment? Sorry for all the questions, I suffer a really bad cog fog atm and I'm trying my best to read about others experiences but it's very, very hard. Have a good day Brassm and thank you. 

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brassmonkey

Hi IMB-- Unfortunately being 11 months out does make it harder for an RI to go smoothly, but we do have many people who have done it successfully.  It won't speed up the recovery much, but it should take the edge off the symptoms so it doesn't hurt as badly.  We really understand the cog fog affect, I fight with it all the time.  It would be a good idea to repost your questions about reinstatement on your intro thread.  That way you'll have a record of the answers for future reference and more of the mods will see it and be able to add more information.

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Miko789
On 4/1/2016 at 12:22 AM, tinker4 said:

Has anyone ever drank while on an antidepressant like Brintellix? How does it react with alcohol? Is it safe?

 

Alcohol will make a bad reaction with antidepressants, that's for sure.

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ChessieCat
3 hours ago, Miko789 said:

Alcohol will make a bad reaction with antidepressants, that's for sure.

 

If you use Drug Interactions Checker and type in your psychiatric drug/s and alcohol there are usually cautions about combining them.

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Oran

Can a night's drinking for someone in wd have the same effect as kindling or adverse reaction? Can it set back and make recovery take years like in a adverse reaction? 

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Lojo016

I have been drinking maybe once a week, this past week I drank three different times, been off meds for 4 months now. I drink because it helps with anxiety and obsessions and I feel normal. I drank three nights ago and I felt fine, good actually. I usually don’t get a bad hangover and it only lasts half a day. However last night, I drank and I got very drunk fast and disoriented, I could not think clearly or even have a conversation. I have been up all night, it is 8:28am. I can’t believe I have not slept. Usually I am able to sleep after drinking but this hangover is ten time worse since I have not slept at all last night. 

 

Dont know what to do to feel better right now.

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manymoretodays

Hi Lojo,

 

You might consider limiting yourself at the very least to just that once a week drinking, or less.  And allowing your brain time to get back to it's factory settings without further psychoactive chemical  assault.  You are only 4 mos. out from a rather rapid wean/taper/CT of 2 medications.  No doubt you are really sensitive to alcohol right now, and for some time to come.  Best to err on the side of caution.

 

I think the best you can do is get some sleep today and wait it out.

 

Best,

mmt

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street129
22 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Hi Lojo,

 

You might consider limiting yourself at the very least to just that once a week drinking, or less.  And allowing your brain time to get back to it's factory settings without further psychoactive chemical  assault.  You are only 4 mos. out from a rather rapid wean/taper/CT of 2 medications.  No doubt you are really sensitive to alcohol right now, and for some time to come.  Best to err on the side of caution.

 

I think the best you can do is get some sleep today and wait it out.

 

Best,

mmt

hi manymoretodays, do you think if i go back to my original dose of trazadone would it help me with my withdrawals.

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street129

brassmonkey hi, do you think if i go back to my original dose of trazadone would it help me with my withdrawals.

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Altostrata

Merged several related topics about drinking alcohol while taking psychiatric drugs OR when you have withdrawal symptoms.

 

The short answer: Don't do it.

 

If drinking alcohol makes you feel worse, you cannot justify it no matter how much you used to like alcohol.

 

If you have a longstanding alcohol habit and you want to take care of yourself, you should gradually stop over a couple of weeks to avoid alcohol withdrawal syndrome. If this sounds like drying out, it is. It's up to you.

 

Also, please note: We cannot support people who repeatedly drink and make their withdrawal symptoms worse. You're hurting yourself and we can't help you, it's too frustrating for us and it will only annoy you.

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Oran

Hello,

 

Can drinking alcohol for someone who’s in withdrawal (off medicines) have the same effect as an adverse reaction? I was on Effexor for 2 years and tapered off in 3 months, after which I had some alcohol on New Years. I was feeling bad but OK before the alcohol. 1 week after drinking on New Years I started to slowly get worse and it’s still continuing today, 14 months later. I’ve had mental and physical symptoms from hell and my progressing condition reminds me of others who’ve had adverse reactions to meds.. can alcohol do the same thing? Please, if you know about this, be honest so that I  know what to expect.. I haven’t had a single window yet.

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ChessieCat

I've moved your post to an existing topic.

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Dalalea
On 3/10/2018 at 5:34 AM, Oran said:

can alcohol do the same thing?

I'm so sorry you are having such long term problems! I know that alcohol shouldn't be used when on Effexor and I've seen people post about it causing them problems when going through WD. I'm not sure that it would still be causing you the problem for so long after if you are no longer drinking it.

I found that I can't take any type of NSAID that I used for pain in the past. If I take even one now in WD, I will have brain fog back.

If I were in your situation, I would evaluate everything that goes in my mouth. There may be something you have become sensitive to that you haven't thought of yet. Just an idea to think about.

 

I just noticed you are from Sweden. I visited cousins in Jönköping for the second time last September. (Just a month before my "surprise" late WD took over my life! It's a beautiful country.

 

I so hope you have a window very soon!

Dalalea (You will probably be the only one that might know where I got part of my online name!)

 

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ChessieCat

Found this in a member's Intro topic:

 

13 hours ago, Bee5 said:

 

I (naively) thought that I could enjoy one or two drinks daily over the festive season, and my moods have been extremely low as a result. I won't be so stupid in future. Anything beyond a single unit of alcohol has an impact on my mood the next day, so as you said, best to stay away.

 

 

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Bee5

Thanks @ChessieCat, I see that the general consensus is to stay away from alcohol. I have still not stabilised, and the last time I had any alcohol was new year's eve.

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Bee5
On 4/1/2016 at 1:12 AM, brassmonkey said:

Hi tinker-- Drinking while taking ADs is not a good idea.  Been there, done that, almost destroyed my life.  There are several things to keep in mind, the first as CC pointed out is the interaction between the drug and alcohol.  Frequently the drug will intensify the effects of the alcohol while the alcohol can decrease the effectiveness of the drug.  The drug can mask the negative effects of alcohol such as the hangover or the realization that you've had too much.  The drugs also lower ones inhibitions and dull ones common sense leading to risky activities and binging.  And the big one is that many of these drugs actually increase a persons craving for alcohol to an extreme extent, making it very easy to consume way more than what is healthy or polite.

 

Once a person is tapering off of these drugs and is having WD symptoms the whole thing can switch very quickly. To the point that one can of beer or glass of wine can give you the hangover from h*** for several weeks and set off a bad wave of WD symptoms.  We have a large number of members that have experienced this first hand.

 

So after all of that the short answer is: Don't do it.

 

Noted @brassmonkey; here I sit in a wave after a few drinks on new year's. Have had to hold my quetiapine dose drop, going on an extra three weeks without dropping. Lesson learned I guess.

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TLF63
On 3/31/2013 at 4:23 PM, basildev said:

I’ve had wine twice now, 3-4 glasses and have gone back into terrible WD, lasted 3 days...won’t do that again. Also I quit smoking a little over 2 years ago and I’m craving THAT again. If I could stand the smell I just might do it too! Paxil turned my life into hell, can’t wait to get through this!

 

 

 

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