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2 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Hi Hibari,

 

 

And hugs.  Do you have any more drug/symptom logs to post Hibari?  That might help when Alto makes her rounds.  The last one posted was on the 5th of November.

Hibari's drug logs, up to November 5th

It's just that they give such nice objective information.

Have you been getting out and about? 

I wondered where you went.

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

 

I will post what I can. 

 

No, not really out and about except two days last week.  Mostly on the couch or in bed.  

 

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9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Monday, 11/5/18
5.6 mg

Slept due to Gaba I think
Morning Cortisol Spike:                Major head pressure, foggy, tired, sweating, nausea, calmer
8:30AM  1.4 Lamictal                     45 mins later start to feel anxious and speedy
10AM                                                 Feel like crying, start to drop in mood
10:15AM  75mg Thyroid                
11:00M                                              Cry, low grade headache and anxiety
12:30PM  1.4mg Lamictal             ½ later speedy feeling, continued head pressure
1PM                                                   Feel like crying
2:15                                                    Cry in therapy
4:00PM                                              Go to office, feel angry about this whole thing, headache, head pressure, some low grade depression.
6:00PM 1.4 Lamictal                       Got stuck out the house longer than I expected.  

6:30PM                                               Little speedy but less, hot flashes and sadness, angry, low mood

7PM                                                     Take 1 baby aspirin

8:45PM                                              Low grade anxiety but okay

9:15PM    1.4 Lamictal                        Took later because of late dose earlier.   20 mins later hyper.  45 mins later cry,  hot flashes .

11/6/18
5.4mgs
No sleep, hyper during the night
Morning Cortisol Spike:                   Lots of anxiety, headache, a little less nausea, mentally okay
8:00AM  7.5 mg Thyroid
8:30AM  1.2 Lamictal                          1/2 hour later very hyper
10:00AM                                                Emotional-crying, tired, nausea, very down and pessimistic, very sick
12:30PM  1.4 Lamictal                        Very sick all day, headache, crying, no appetite, pacing, fear taking any supplements
4:30PM   1.4 Lamictal
7:00-8:30PM                                          Lots of crying and feel hysterical at times
8:30PM    1.4 Lamictal                         Hour later very speedy, and anxious
10PM        2 100mg  L-Theanine
11PM        1/4 of Gaba
2 AM         1 100mg L-Theanine

 

11/7/18
0 meds
Morning Cortisol spike: headache, nausea, panic, anxiety, hot flashes
After not sleeping all night, feel I can take any more medication
8:00AM  7.5 thryroid
Major Akathesia all day.
2PM Cry with a friend
3PM Talk and cry a little with another friend.
4PM  start do feel better.  Calmer, low grade headache, some physical tension but better than earlier in the day.
6PM Able to eat more
11PM Still okay when I go to bed.   

 

11/8/18
0 Meds
Broken Sleep
Morning Cortisol Spike : First time in over 2 years I have no nausea in the morning.  Hot flashes, some anxiety and adrenaline surges
8:00AM  7.5 Thyroid
Window during the day. 
Go to grocery story
Work with one client on the phone
Feel worry and anxiety growing as the night starts to come.  Fear feeling bad in the morning.
11PM 200mg Magniesum

 

11/9/18
0 Meds
Morning Cortisol Spike:  Very sick.  Anxious, headache,  headpressure, adrenaline rushes.
8:00AM  7.5 mgs Thryroid
Akathesia all day:  Headpressure, anxiety, panic, blurry eyes, mentally very alert but under water in my mind.
Fear I made a mistake by jumping off.
Still tense in the evening.
11PM 200mgs Magnesium

 

11/10/18
O meds
Some sleep? 8:00Am 7.5 mgs Thyroid
Morning Cortisol spike:
anxiety, sweating, hot flash, head pressure
Very tired all day but no aksathesia. 
Go back to bed, sleep a bit more
Spacey
1PM Go to Drug store
2PM Go buy a smoothie
Low grade anxiety
Evening: Vulnerable, hot flashes, sadness

 

11/11/18
0 meds
No real sleep
8:00AM 7.5 Thyroid
Morning Cortisol Spike:  Very sick and scared.  Adrenaline, hot flashes, head pressure, no appetite, trembling, emotional. 
Regret my decision even though the medication was making me very sick. 
Very anxious all day, can't sleep, headpressure, no appetite, forcing myself to eat, very pessimistic about getting through this.
Continues for most of the evening.  Lie on the couch, watch TV.
9PM  Go to bed.   Can't rest all night.  Feel my thoughts racing, and feel deep fear an panic. 
11PM  50mg Gaba and 100mg Magnesium
1AM   25 mg Gaba
3AM   Rest of Gaba totally 200mgs for the night.

 

11/12/18
0 Meds
Morning Cortisol Spike: Very sick, anxious, trembling, nausea, dizzy, fear, major adrenaline rushes throughout the morning. 
Feel I may need to reinstate but will look for advice. 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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I know it doesn't take away how you are feeling but I have been thinking about you and am sending you lots of hugs - WR. 💖

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg

 

 

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1 hour ago, wantrelief said:

I know it doesn't take away how you are feeling but I have been thinking about you and am sending you lots of hugs - WR. 💖

Thank you so much.   Really appreciate you thinking of me. 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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2 hours ago, Hibari said:

Monday, 11/5/18
5.6 mg

Slept due to Gaba I think
Morning Cortisol Spike:                Major head pressure, foggy, tired, sweating, nausea, calmer
8:30AM  1.4 Lamictal                     45 mins later start to feel anxious and speedy
10AM                                                 Feel like crying, start to drop in mood
10:15AM  75mg Thyroid                
11:00M                                              Cry, low grade headache and anxiety
12:30PM  1.4mg Lamictal             ½ later speedy feeling, continued head pressure
1PM                                                   Feel like crying
2:15                                                    Cry in therapy
4:00PM                                              Go to office, feel angry about this whole thing, headache, head pressure, some low grade depression.
6:00PM 1.4 Lamictal                       Got stuck out the house longer than I expected.  

6:30PM                                               Little speedy but less, hot flashes and sadness, angry, low mood

7PM                                                     Take 1 baby aspirin

8:45PM                                              Low grade anxiety but okay

9:15PM    1.4 Lamictal                        Took later because of late dose earlier.   20 mins later hyper.  45 mins later cry,  hot flashes .

11/6/18
5.4mgs
No sleep, hyper during the night
Morning Cortisol Spike:                   Lots of anxiety, headache, a little less nausea, mentally okay
8:00AM  7.5 mg Thyroid
8:30AM  1.2 Lamictal                          1/2 hour later very hyper
10:00AM                                                Emotional-crying, tired, nausea, very down and pessimistic, very sick
12:30PM  1.4 Lamictal                        Very sick all day, headache, crying, no appetite, pacing, fear taking any supplements
4:30PM   1.4 Lamictal
7:00-8:30PM                                          Lots of crying and feel hysterical at times
8:30PM    1.4 Lamictal                         Hour later very speedy, and anxious
10PM        2 100mg  L-Theanine
11PM        1/4 of Gaba
2 AM         1 100mg L-Theanine

 

11/7/18
0 meds
Morning Cortisol spike: headache, nausea, panic, anxiety, hot flashes
After not sleeping all night, feel I can take any more medication
8:00AM  7.5 thryroid
Major Akathesia all day.
2PM Cry with a friend
3PM Talk and cry a little with another friend.
4PM  start do feel better.  Calmer, low grade headache, some physical tension but better than earlier in the day.
6PM Able to eat more
11PM Still okay when I go to bed.   

 

11/8/18
0 Meds
Broken Sleep
Morning Cortisol Spike : First time in over 2 years I have no nausea in the morning.  Hot flashes, some anxiety and adrenaline surges
8:00AM  7.5 Thyroid
Window during the day. 
Go to grocery story
Work with one client on the phone
Feel worry and anxiety growing as the night starts to come.  Fear feeling bad in the morning.
11PM 200mg Magniesum

 

11/9/18
0 Meds
Morning Cortisol Spike:  Very sick.  Anxious, headache,  headpressure, adrenaline rushes.
8:00AM  7.5 mgs Thryroid
Akathesia all day:  Headpressure, anxiety, panic, blurry eyes, mentally very alert but under water in my mind.
Fear I made a mistake by jumping off.
Still tense in the evening.
11PM 200mgs Magnesium

 

11/10/18
O meds
Some sleep? 8:00Am 7.5 mgs Thyroid
Morning Cortisol spike:
anxiety, sweating, hot flash, head pressure
Very tired all day but no aksathesia. 
Go back to bed, sleep a bit more
Spacey
1PM Go to Drug store
2PM Go buy a smoothie
Low grade anxiety
Evening: Vulnerable, hot flashes, sadness

 

11/11/18
0 meds
No real sleep
8:00AM 7.5 Thyroid
Morning Cortisol Spike:  Very sick and scared.  Adrenaline, hot flashes, head pressure, no appetite, trembling, emotional. 
Regret my decision even though the medication was making me very sick. 
Very anxious all day, can't sleep, headpressure, no appetite, forcing myself to eat, very pessimistic about getting through this.
Continues for most of the evening.  Lie on the couch, watch TV.
9PM  Go to bed.   Can't rest all night.  Feel my thoughts racing, and feel deep fear an panic. 
11PM  50mg Gaba and 100mg Magnesium
1AM   25 mg Gaba
3AM   Rest of Gaba totally 200mgs for the night.

 

11/12/18
0 Meds
Morning Cortisol Spike: Very sick, anxious, trembling, nausea, dizzy, fear, major adrenaline rushes throughout the morning. 
Feel I may need to reinstate but will look for advice. 

Spoke to my holistic psychiatrist and she is encouraging me to use the CBS oil to get through this.  I took a 1/2 dropperful and will take more throughout the day.  

 

My symptoms are still intense but maybe a teaspoon less as the day has gone on.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Just one other update. 

 

I now feel much calmer due to the MCT Hemp seed oil I took.  I  took a 1/2 dropper at about 2PM and it took about 2 1/2 hours to hit my system   So glad I didn't take any more because I wasn't feeling it for awhile.

 

I still feel my wd rippling through me but the panic and anxiety have greatly reduced.    I want to give the oil a try and see if it can help with sleep and to take the edge off off of the daily anxiety. 

 

 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Hibari,

Will you add your experiences with the MCT Hemp seed oil to our thread on that at some point.

Cannabis, marijuana, THC, and CBD or Hemp oil

That's super so far. 

Keep notes!!  B)

I'm serious though.

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

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Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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Hi, HIbari. So sorry you are having such problems.

 

I might try 0.5mg Lamictal at night. Please let us know how you're doing.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hugs, Hibari.  I'm sorry you are feeling so terrible.  Crossing my fingers the CBD will do the trick.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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17 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Hibari,

Will you add your experiences with the MCT Hemp seed oil to our thread on that at some point.

Cannabis, marijuana, THC, and CBD or Hemp oil

That's super so far. 

Keep notes!!  B)

I'm serious though.

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

I will add my experiences. Its only been 24 hours so I need to gather more data.  Only negative so far,  and I'm not sure if it's the oil is that I woke wirh a headache.  Could be the oil, could be withdrawal symptom of Lamicatal (very common)  or it could be the leftover effect if the Gaba supplement I took on Sunday night (I've had that reaction before)   I will keep tracking.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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16 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Hi, HIbari. So sorry you are having such problems.

 

I might try 0.5mg Lamictal at night. Please let us know how you're doing.

Thank you Alto.  

I was able to sleep using the CBD oil and though I have some low grade anxiety and a headache, the oil has helped. 

 

I'm going to keep going using it with the option of your recommendation if things shift back quickly.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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15 hours ago, Rosetta said:

Hugs, Hibari.  I'm sorry you are feeling so terrible.  Crossing my fingers the CBD will do the trick.

Thank you Rosetta.  It has helped initially and I'm hoping it can help me though these early days off meds. I am grateful to anything that takes the edge off

 

I so appreciate you stopping by.  

 

 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Oh, good.  I hope it keeps taking the edge off.  I'm afraid to try anything, but perhaps someday.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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20 hours ago, Rosetta said:

Oh, good.  I hope it keeps taking the edge off.  I'm afraid to try anything, but perhaps someday.

I am also very afraid to try things and perhaps am under dosing the CBD oil because of it. 

It's helping some but not with everything.

 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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It's been 12 days since I stopped taking Lamictal after an adverse reaction to the medication that occurred for two months. 

 

I have to be honest, it's been hard, very hard    I knew it was going be a rough time but I think I have continued to be surprised at how rough.

 

While I have had some windows, the majority of the time I cycle through akathesia, depression, and general despair over the process. 

 

I have used CBD oil and have found it useful for the anxiety.  I don't think I taking enough yet but it's due to my fear of over-doing on a new protocol.  

My psychiatrist wants me to take 3 dropperfulls 3 x a day but I am probably at half that, taking between 2-3 drops every couple of hours to maybe 5-6 drops at the most in one dose.

 

I mainly am struggling with:

Insomina

Lack of appetite

Very emotional-crying and at times deep anger about all of this.

Mental Despair and physical tension

And just recently, a day of deep depression that was devastating.

Still sweating nightly but I'm okay with that-hoping my body is trying to regulate. 

 

I was able to get out two days in a row at the end of last week but since Saturday have been pretty housebound. 

 

I don't mean to be pessimistic but more realistic.  I have no idea what the next weeks will be like and I feel like I am someone whose experience is in between a long taper, 3 years and 3 months, and cold turkey.   I'm hoping the time I put in tapering will count in my brain but I also wasn't near 0 when I jumped off. 

 

That's my update and I will return again as I may have to consider a small reinstatement if things don't improve. 

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no edit, just quoted a bit....new glasses?

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Hi Hibari....I didnt realize you stopped the Lamictal entirely?...thought you were tapering down as your signature says 6.2mg.  I am so sorry you are struggling with so many challenging symptoms!  I know from reading here that eventually things do start to right themselves...it is so hard to wait for signs of that, though I feel your getting out 2 days in a row last week perhaps is a little sign?  I hope so!  Will be holding you in my thoughts and heart.  You are so courageous to have gone off a med causing so many issues and I know you will make it through the next phase as well.  Blessings!!💜

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. React to AD's. Klonopin .5BID 1990, 2.5mg til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Taper to 2.25mg May to Nov '16. Bad react to Lexapro, stop. React to Prevacid too, taper off. 

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from Feb to June '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 8.25, 10/24 8.0, 12/19 7.75, Feb '20 7.50, 3/20 7.25, 5/20 7.0, 6/20 6.75, 7/20 6.5, 8/20 6.25, 10/2 20 6.0, 11/25'20 5.75, 1/9/21 5.5, 2/23 5.25

-1015 AM Viibryd, vit D 4,000IU 130, 415 Clonazepam .2mg, 815 Premarin .3mg, 1015 Clonaz .7mg,

  1115 3t fish oil+D 1145 Castor Oil 650mg(4) 1230 Carafate 1/2GM,Methylated B Vit  1/week,Reacted Mag prn

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Rosetta would be a good one to talk to as she has slowly improved after rapidly coming off her med....she has made so much progress of late!!  Im sure she would be able to share some thoughts...

-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. React to AD's. Klonopin .5BID 1990, 2.5mg til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Taper to 2.25mg May to Nov '16. Bad react to Lexapro, stop. React to Prevacid too, taper off. 

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from Feb to June '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

-7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 8.25, 10/24 8.0, 12/19 7.75, Feb '20 7.50, 3/20 7.25, 5/20 7.0, 6/20 6.75, 7/20 6.5, 8/20 6.25, 10/2 20 6.0, 11/25'20 5.75, 1/9/21 5.5, 2/23 5.25

-1015 AM Viibryd, vit D 4,000IU 130, 415 Clonazepam .2mg, 815 Premarin .3mg, 1015 Clonaz .7mg,

  1115 3t fish oil+D 1145 Castor Oil 650mg(4) 1230 Carafate 1/2GM,Methylated B Vit  1/week,Reacted Mag prn

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12 minutes ago, Rabe said:

Rosetta would be a good one to talk to as she has slowly improved after rapidly coming off her med....she has made so much progress of late!!  Im sure she would be able to share some thoughts...

Thank you for both your posts here.  Yes, I have to update my signature.  

 

I would not have jumped off of the meds had not caused such a horrible reaction everytime took them.  

 

Thank you for letting me know about Rosetta's story.  I had read it awhile ago but did not remember the details.  

 

I so appreciate your support.  

 

 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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45 minutes ago, Hibari said:

That's my update and I will return again as I may have to consider a small reinstatement if things don't improve. 

I'm glad to hear you will/are considering ^.    If things improve though......that's when you would consider it?  I don't follow the logic here.  I've read all your recent posts though, so you don't have to repeat yourself.  It's okay.

 

Hi Hibari,

So far then.......this is better than that?  That .....meaning where you were in the proceeding days....... to 12 days ago when you jumped off?  Or can you qualify it yet?  It may be more in retrospect that you see.  I mean that's how it was for me......in understanding my own healing from all manner of psychotropic drugs.  And what was exactly what, during different time frames.

 

Oh.....I so hope the need for staying homebound lifts soon.  It's not the worst......if you have some support, and kind comfort  humans around, or popping in periodically.   And hopefully no large responsibilities for the holidays?  I just know I sure got sick of being sick myself.......and it is better now......so much better.  So I'm sorry you are still struggling along.

 

Thanks for the update and many gentle hugs.

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth......also gratitude.

Have a happy Turkey Day!!!

mmt

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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2 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

I'm glad to hear you will/are considering ^.    If things improve though......that's when you would consider it?  I don't follow the logic here.  I've read all your recent posts though, so you don't have to repeat yourself.  It's okay.

 

Hi Hibari,

So far then.......this is better than that?  That .....meaning where you were in the proceeding days....... to 12 days ago when you jumped off?  Or can you qualify it yet?  It may be more in retrospect that you see.  I mean that's how it was for me......in understanding my own healing from all manner of psychotropic drugs.  And what was exactly what, during different time frames.

 

Oh.....I so hope the need for staying homebound lifts soon.  It's not the worst......if you have some support, and kind comfort  humans around, or popping in periodically.   And hopefully no large responsibilities for the holidays?  I just know I sure got sick of being sick myself.......and it is better now......so much better.  So I'm sorry you are still struggling along.

 

Thanks for the update and many gentle hugs.

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth......also gratitude.

Have a happy Turkey Day!!!

mmt

I'm confused MMT.  

 

Are you asking me if things improve, would I consider a reinstatement?  If things improve, I will move forward.  

 

However, if things dont improve and in fact get worse, I would ask for advice on reinstating.  

 

In some ways, jumping off is slightly better?  When I was on, I was having akathisia and a chemical anxiety that hit about 1/2 hour of taking the med.  Plus the need to cry an hour later.  

 

Now I just feel terrible and until yesterday more optimistic about getting off this med.  Now not as optimistic. 

 

On terms of being housebound, I don't have people stopping by though my brother stayed with me while my husband was away on business trip.  I was too sick to be by myself.  

 

Most of  my connections are on the phone as my closest friends are no longer in town. I have wanted to get to my Alanon meetings but have been too sick.  The last one i went to was over two weeks ago.  

 

As I said to Rabe above, I would have gone lower on this med before jumping if it hadn't been making me so sick.  I had to make a choice and am hoping now that my body and brain will work together to heal.  

 

Thank you for stopping by and I hope I was clear about the reinstatement piece.  

 

 

 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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On 11/12/2018 at 6:11 PM, Altostrata said:

I might try 0.5mg Lamictal at night. Please let us know how you're doing.

 

I figured that you saw the above.

I think maybe I read your statement backwards.......like, I thought you said if you improve........then you would consider reinstating.

I guess you meant the opposite.

:rolleyes:  Sorry bout that........

Sending healing hugs and wishes.....

L, P, H, and G and G,

mmt

p.s.  I'll use my usual reading glasses next time before responding.......things are a bit blurry in this adjustment phase to new lenses.

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p.s.

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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39 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

 

I figured that you saw the above.

I think maybe I read your statement backwards.......like, I thought you said if you improve........then you would consider reinstating.

I guess you meant the opposite.

:rolleyes:  Sorry bout that........

Sending healing hugs and wishes.....

L, P, H, and G and G,

mmt

p.s.  I'll use my usual reading glasses next time before responding.......things are a bit blurry in this adjustment phase to new lenses.

Yes, I did see that and responded to Alto that I wanted to give the CBD oil a try first.  

 

Understand about the reading glasses, sometimes when I read back things I have written without my glasses, I'm shocked at my typos.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Sometimes it's just the nature of posting clarity too.   Many factors.    Insomnia...cog fog....new lenses....and so on.                                                                                                   Are the dropperfuls that your psychiatrist/ presciber  recommended different than what you refer to as drops (gtts).  In other words....he/ she wants you to take an amount in mL's 3x per day?  And you are being cautious and taking less, but more frequently than 3× a day?  I'm just wondering what a "dropperful" amount is?  In mL's and then in mg.  Does your bottle of liquid gtts say?             It might not be fear Hibari.  Caution?  I think you, like many of us, may be more sensitive to things now.  Kind of cool , that you are willing to go guinea pig with CBD oil use in W/D.  Oh .....I hope you get further healing soon enough.  Be of the best attitude for you now.  And I appreciate the update Hibari.  Sending sleep and calm.  You can answer whenever.  I am interested.

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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6 hours ago, Hibari said:

Still sweating nightly but I'm okay with that-hoping my body is trying to regulate. 

 

Is this a new symptom since you stopped lamotrigine?

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10 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

Is this a new symptom since you stopped lamotrigine?

Hi Alto,

 

No its been ongoing though withdrawal both on the med and off.  

 

At times it pours off of me.

 

Last night I got 5 hours of sleep starting at 3am, which was a relief due to my ongoing insomnia.  This morning at 8am, the sweat just drenched me. 

 

I have a low grade headache, some anxiety and nausea but my mood is better.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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HI Hibari,

 

Sending you all the best.  I'm hoping your experience is very different from mine. I practically CTd from 150 mg sertraline in February of 2016.  (My taper was over 6-8 weeks or so.). I have improved immensely, of course, but I wish I had had the option of reinstating a small dose.  That might have made an enormous difference.  I'm glad you are holding that option open.

 

My situation might be worse than yours.  I don't want my thread to scare you.  I was all ready severely destabilized when I quit sertraline, and I was probably in tolerance, too.  I had been switched from citalopram 5 1/2 years earlier and then the dose of sertraline was raised from 10 mg to 150 over that 5 year period.  I believe that even the increases in sertraline caused further destabilization.  That's why I quit the drug.  I became sicker and sicker over time.  The dose was very high, too.  I don't know if these things matter or not when trying to estimate the effect that quitting a drug might have, but I do hope that you will experience an easier journey.  

 

Rabe is right in that you need not despair -- everyone heals from this.  It takes a long time.  You must persevere, but also, I believe reinstatement can make it easier for some.  There are risks either way, but you will get through this regardless.

 

Big hugs, Rosetta

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2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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46 minutes ago, Rosetta said:

HI Hibari,

 

Sending you all the best.  I'm hoping your experience is very different from mine. I practically CTd from 150 mg sertraline in February of 2016.  (My taper was over 6-8 weeks or so.). I have improved immensely, of course, but I wish I had had the option of reinstating a small dose.  That might have made an enormous difference.  I'm glad you are holding that option open.

 

My situation might be worse than yours.  I don't want my thread to scare you.  I was all ready severely destabilized when I quit sertraline, and I was probably in tolerance, too.  I had been switched from citalopram 5 1/2 years earlier and then the dose of sertraline was raised from 10 mg to 150 over that 5 year period.  I believe that even the increases in sertraline caused further destabilization.  That's why I quit the drug.  I became sicker and sicker over time.  The dose was very high, too.  I don't know if these things matter or not when trying to estimate the effect that quitting a drug might have, but I do hope that you will experience an easier journey.  

 

Rabe is right in that you need not despair -- everyone heals from this.  It takes a long time.  You must persevere, but also, I believe reinstatement can make it easier for some.  There are risks either way, but you will get through this regardless.

 

Big hugs, Rosetta

Hi Rosetta,

 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.  I've responded to some of the different things you've said.   Can't figure out how to split up the quotes. 

 

Rosetta said: Sending you all the best.  I'm hoping your experience is very different from mine. I practically CTd from 150 mg sertraline in February of 2016.  (My taper was over 6-8 weeks or so.). I have improved immensely, of course, but I wish I had had the option of reinstating a small dose.  That might have made an enormous difference.  I'm glad you are holding that option open.

 

I am holding the option open.  It's hard to imagine taking the med back into my body but I am open to it if I deteriorate too badly.  

 

Rosetta said: My situation might be worse than yours.  I don't want my thread to scare you.  I was all ready severely destabilized when I quit sertraline, and I was probably in tolerance, too.  I had been switched from citalopram 5 1/2 years earlier and then the dose of sertraline was raised from 10 mg to 150 over that 5 year period.  I believe that even the increases in sertraline caused further destabilization.  That's why I quit the drug.  I became sicker and sicker over time.  The dose was very high, too.  I don't know if these things matter or not when trying to estimate the effect that quitting a drug might have, but I do hope that you will experience an easier journey.  

 

No, you aren't scaring me.  I tapered my Lamcital dosage from  200mgsto 5.5 mgs over 3 years and 3 months.   I was also tapering another drug at the same time and got off of that in April of 2017.    I had gotten down to 8.8 mgs by June 2018 and was planing to hold for 6 months when a series of events happened that upset my nervous system.  The hold was already giving me issues but I initially thought it was due to to fast tapering.  Then my dog died at the end of July, my husband had surgery at the end of August,  I changed the method of how I was taking my meds (started cutting up the pills into powder and had an bad reaction to the fillers and binders).  I then tried to updose and did too much even at 1mg.   I then brought myself down again and Alto recognized that I was having an adverse reaction to the drug when I described what happened every time I took a dose.  I too became sicker and sicker even even as I dropped lower and lower.   Alto was guiding me to lower doses but probably did not expect me to jump when I did. 

 

I know that that the three year taper may not make a difference because I know I jumped higher than I should have.  It's just that I was so sick all the time.   I was unable to work, go out or eat. 

Now some of that has continued though I am doing some work at home and occasionally getting out.  Every day is different and that part is very hard.   I want to heal very badly. 

 

Rosetta said: Rabe is right in that you need not despair -- everyone heals from this.  It takes a long time.  You must persevere, but also, I believe reinstatement can make it easier for some.  There are risks either way, but you will get through this regardless.

 

I don't' want to despair though there are days that I have even before jumping off.   I do have that fear that I will be the only one who doesn't heal but I know that's very common. 

 

Thank you so much for your support and I am here to support you as well.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Hi Alto,

 

So I am now at the point where I have to think of reinstating.

 

I have been off of Lamotrigine for 18 days and I think I need some relief.  

 

I have alternated days of acute wd: panic, anxiety, insomina, agitation, lack of appetite, fear, trembling, deep sadness over this experiencek, hot flashes and sweating.

Then I have a day of relief where I am not exactly upbeat but I'm not in acute wd.

 

I am not really functioning and my quality of life is not good.

 

I also have made some mistakes in terms of supplements out of a desperation to sleep.  Taken Gaba-no longer works, Using CBD oil-no longer effective, Tryptophan Peptide-did nothing and finally Kavinacie, which I know has phenibut.  Tried two tablets one night and slept, one tablet a second night and did not sleep.

 

So here I am.  Scared about reinstating because of my adverse reaction to the drug, which caused me to jump off but in such desperate need of relief that I have to be open to it.

 

What dosage would you recommend at this point?  I got off Lamotrignine probably between 5.4-5.6 mgs. 

 

Thank you. 

 

My logs have basically been:  Awful day, okay day, awful day, okay day.  Not much else. 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Have been on the couch or bed all day.  

 

Very scared today about my physical and mental state.  As i try to relax, I then am jerked to alertness by adrenaline.  

 

So awful to be in this state and so sad that my 3 years of tapering this med have not really helped this process.  I made lots of mistakes tapering and feel this is the result.  

 

I also feel a great loss if faith now.  I was beginning to cultivate it more by being in Alanon but it has be shaken by withdrawal.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Oh @Hibari, I wish I could help you somehow. I am inspired by your strength and perseverance in the face of this brutal experience. Thinking about you and sending healing thoughts.

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Thank you FGW.  I don't feel strong.  

 

I'm just waiting on a moderator to help me with the right amount to reinstate.  

 

 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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If there is a moderator on during this time, I could use some guidance.  I am not doing well right now.  

 

Alto had made a suggestion of a reinstatement amount about a week ago.  I want to know if Alto or any other mod still agrees with the amount suggested.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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On 11/12/2018 at 8:11 PM, Altostrata said:

Hi, HIbari. So sorry you are having such problems.

 

I might try 0.5mg Lamictal at night. Please let us know how you're doing.

This what Alto suggested on the 12th.  

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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Hi Hibari,

How was your holiday?

 

I might try the 0.5mg Lamictal at night, if I were you.

I'm not you Hibari.......as we both know.......

You could in the time remaining until tonight study some of the links too, and get a feel for the whole thing again now.

One theory of antidepressant withdrawal syndrome*

Tips for tapering off Lamictal

Lamictal to calm post discontination symptoms

 

If you do add it.....I would surely encourage you to stick with it for 4 days and then, perhaps, even beyond.

Did you want to post some drug and symptoms notes as well now for the past few days?

I'd like to encourage you to be posting those!  Keep posting them.

 

As well as keeping another journal or diary or calendar of some sort for yourself.  Especially keeping in mind and on paper, for yourself, some of the situational stuff that occurs.  Or even becoming more aware of expectations, around things like holidays and others, and........you know the drill I think, from alanon maybe. 

Most especially though I might work on expectations of healing, and acceptance of where you are at.

 

I have to go through the same adjustments all the time, and bringing myself back again to what works for me, and doesn't.  I've been getting bogged a bit around my own Sun(son) lately, this past holiday.......and sometimes to the point of not doing and practicing, all that helps me stay in the place of serenity and peace.  Or maybe it was just the holiday itself and nothing really changed with Sun?  Anyway.....I often go to more active meditation to get out of head and spiraling.  Oh, and good old acceptance of what is, who I am today, and gratitude is sure a year round thing for me.

 

Logic and numbers are great too!

 

((((((Hibari)))))

give yourself a hug Hibari,

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

 

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Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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And maybe this:

 

I was looking at some of "Mooji" and even considered some Moody Blues music to share.  That's been doing it for me lately....M and M!

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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2 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Hi Hibari,

How was your holiday?

 

I might try the 0.5mg Lamictal at night, if I were you.

I'm not you Hibari.......as we both know.......

You could in the time remaining until tonight study some of the links too, and get a feel for the whole thing again now.

One theory of antidepressant withdrawal syndrome*

Tips for tapering off Lamictal

Lamictal to calm post discontination symptoms

 

If you do add it.....I would surely encourage you to stick with it for 4 days and then, perhaps, even beyond.

Did you want to post some drug and symptoms notes as well now for the past few days?

I'd like to encourage you to be posting those!  Keep posting them.

 

As well as keeping another journal or diary or calendar of some sort for yourself.  Especially keeping in mind and on paper, for yourself, some of the situational stuff that occurs.  Or even becoming more aware of expectations, around things like holidays and others, and........you know the drill I think, from alanon maybe. 

Most especially though I might work on expectations of healing, and acceptance of where you are at.

 

I have to go through the same adjustments all the time, and bringing myself back again to what works for me, and doesn't.  I've been getting bogged a bit around my own Sun(son) lately, this past holiday.......and sometimes to the point of not doing and practicing, all that helps me stay in the place of serenity and peace.  Or maybe it was just the holiday itself and nothing really changed with Sun?  Anyway.....I often go to more active meditation to get out of head and spiraling.  Oh, and good old acceptance of what is, who I am today, and gratitude is sure a year round thing for me.

 

Logic and numbers are great too!

 

((((((Hibari)))))

give yourself a hug Hibari,

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

 

Hi MMT

 

If reinstating offered me relief, I would be very accepting of staying put. Before I had the adverse reaction I was so willing to hold but things changed and I couldn't do it.  

 

Mmt would reinstating now, at 5:30pm EST be okay?  

 

I have been in such agony.  Both today and on Thanksgiving and 2 days before that.  On Thanksgiving night I could not sleep after not sleeping the night before.  Intended up taking a bunch of different things including having a drink to do finally conk out.  

 

I faced some realizations about myself during this recent time. My sensitivity, my need to be on charge, my capacity and my need to be in life again.  

 

Taking the chance to reinstate might give me a piece of me back. Then i.cam regroup inside and out.  

 

 

 

9/2013-4/2014:  After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro,  Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 

1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs  

1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs

7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 

3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021  Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free 

July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 

9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize

10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 

2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6  6/16 3.4  6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7  7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0  9/5 1.8  9/16 1.6  9/30 1.4  10/13 1.2  10/26 1.0  11/9 0.8  11/22 0.6  12/6 0.4  12/23 0.2.

2024 1/4/24  Remeron/Mirtazapine free 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs,  L-theanine 

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