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I would not assume your histamine receptors are injured.

 

When you took an antihistamine before, it sounds like it went paradoxical on you. We know this can often happen with antihistamines.

 

I'm merging this with a related topic, please read our prior discussions about acid reflux.

 

You may not need treatment for this, you might be able to simply avoid certain foods.

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On 10/31/2018 at 2:05 PM, Altostrata said:

I would not assume your histamine receptors are injured.

 

When you took an antihistamine before, it sounds like it went paradoxical on you. We know this can often happen with antihistamines.

 

I'm merging this with a related topic, please read our prior discussions about acid reflux.

 

You may not need treatment for this, you might be able to simply avoid certain foods.

Thanks for your reply, Altostrata. Could an adverse reaction to an antihistamine cause long-term dysautonomia? This is exactly what happened and has persisted (for the most part) since the antihistamine several months ago. I took bentyl last night for the pain, and I had another adverse reaction: shivering, muscle twitching (still), tight gut and nervousness (still), and fluctuating heart rate (still- from 60 to 90 at rest, and above 100 when walking--I do not have POTS). I wonder if there is a connection between Remeron, Unisom, and Bentyl- since all three have given me adverse reactions. 

1990s-early 2000s: On and off different AD medicines like Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, and Lexapro.

2004: Klonopin .75-1 mg a day for anxiety.

2012: Started micro-taper off Klonopin. Used Benadryl or Doxylamine for sleep nightly. Melatonin. Ate clean and did exercise.

2014: Finished micro-taper with very little PAWS. No more Klonopin.  Started fish oil, probiotics, vitamins, and curcumin.  

November 2016: ADHD medicines: Vyvanse (60 mg), Dexedrine (15 mg), Adderall (15 mg), Desoxyn (20 mg) at various times, not at once.

March 2017: Mirtazapine 7.5 mg but immediately went up to 15 mg but then back down to 12, then 7.5 mg. For insomnia, not for depression. Melatonin too.

November 2017: Dropped to 3.75 mg Mirtazapine and eventually started taking it every other day or so.

 February 2018: Stopped 3.75 Mirtazapine after ER visit. Stabilized on Klonopin .125 mg as prepare to micro-taper again.Also stopped melatonin after a few years of use (5-20 mg a night). 

February 2019: One year later: The worst is over. Far from back to normal but 24/7 dread and fear adrenaline surges and suicidal ideation are done. Still anxiety, parasthesia, dysuatonomia, tinnitus, and minor insomnia but I'm also a year into my Klonopin taper down to .016 so much of this could be to that. I still have occasional feelings of unease (serotonin) but it's much better than 24/7 doom. I will have a success story and so will you! 

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As we've explained many times, one can get paradoxical reactions from antihistamines.

 

I suppose you could have an idiosyncratic reaction to them as a class. You should take this as your body saying it doesn't want them.

 

I am dubious about any close relationship between Remeron and any over-the-counter antihistamine. I do not believe you are correct about your histamine receptors being damaged. The body has an abundant number of histamine receptors of maybe a dozen types, unlikely that any significant number of them go out of service for any reason.

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So I have silent reflux and also gerd.   I do not take the usual meds for this, the ppi such as Prilosec.  I am so afraid of putting any other meds in my system, being so many can cause or make tinnitus worse.  I usally just do some tums as needed, making sure its two hours away form meds.  

 

I know the meds themselves are probably making the reflux even worse,  especially the latest ones I am on.   Such a catch 22.

 

I am super careful with my diet, but still suffer lately with the reflux.  and silent reflux is even harder to get under control.  

 

anyone have any tips, suggestions, etc? 

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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Merged similar topics. Please use search in the Symptoms forum before starting new topics.

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I have silent reflux.  Its hard to treat and these meds don't help.  Any one have suggestions on something for reflux?  Besides more meds like prilosec, etc?  Something more natural?  

 

It's bad now I think I'm refluxing up into my eustastion tubes.  🙄

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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I was disgnosed with lpr (aka silent reflux) earlier this year.  Its a real tough one to tackle, because most times we dont even know we are refluxing so its hard to combat the symptoms.   opted not to use the ppi treatment, as i just didnt want another drug in me and i now they are only a temporary fix.  at this time, i feel that my symptoms may be worsening and i know the meds i am not do not help.  I will try my best throught diet.  Its so hard because i know with lpr its the pepsin that is the problem and its so hard to treat.   

 

Can anyone else give me some tips you have that maybe have helped  you, alternative treatments, etc.  I am going to go back to my ENT because i need my ears checked.  I think the reflux is maybe starting to even get into my Eusatian tubes.    

 

I welcome any advice and pointers.  thanks!    

 

Also, i used to take gavison advance, as i heard this is good for it.  But i dont think its good to take this near my gabapentin.   Does anyone know?  its different than other antacids. It has alginate in it. 

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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8 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

Can anyone else give me some tips you have that maybe have helped  you, alternative treatments, etc.  I am going to go back to my ENT because i need my ears checked.  I think the reflux is maybe starting to even get into my Eusatian tubes.    

 

I welcome any advice and pointers.  thanks!    

 

I would always suggest being tested for H pylori, as it is a common cause of gastritis,  gastric ulcers, indigestion, heartburn etc. 

 

If you have H pylori, doctors will usually prescribe 2 antibiotics and a proton pump inhibitor, although many (including myself) find relief in natural alternatives. 

 

1000mg of mastic gum for three weeks helped me to completely resolve my GERD symptoms back in 2015, which were caused by a proven H pylori infection.

 

I have recently had gastritis and GERD symptoms for an unknown reason (I believe it is due to a nasty virus that started giving me other symptoms at the same time), and I have found a lot of relief using 75mg of zinc-l-carnosine per day. Be careful of using this at too high a dose or too long term, as it may eventually effect copper absorption (it should be fine for several weeks unless you’re already copper deficient or take a very large dose).  

 

DGL licorice and slippery elm are other well known aids for symptoms of GERD. They are both known to ‘soothe’ the digestive tract and stimulate protective mucus production. 

 

I know that your complaints are about silent reflux, but this is often an equivalent or extension of GERD, it just means the reflux is going up all the way to your throat and may not ‘burn’ in such an obvious manner. 

 

I would also recommend drinking water away from you meals, so not to dilute your stomach acid and interfere with the digestive process. 

 

As always, introduce any new supplement slowly and carefully, in case you react negatively to it. I would also suggest researching any supplements first, to get a feel for dosages and how they work. The good news is that there is very little in the way of drug interactions between the supplements above and psychiatric drugs. I would always input supplements and your medications into a drug interaction checker, just to be totally sure. 

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I was reading that a good natural remedy for reflux is baking soda.   Anyone try this was any success?  I don't want to go the med route and im at my wits end.  Also, is it safe with medication? Cant really find anything online in that regard.

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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Please research baking soda for reflux and post in this topic, with relevant links.

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Check out Dr Berg’s video on YouTube entitled: The myth about gerd and acid reflux relief. It’s really good, he recommends apple cider vinegar. I really like his videos, he’s into doing everything naturally and has posted so many informative videos on YouTube. I like how he explains everything.

 

I hope you find something that works @BfromNJ

 

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5 hours ago, Carmie said:

Check out Dr Berg’s video on YouTube entitled: The myth about gerd and acid reflux relief. It’s really good, he recommends apple cider vinegar. I really like his videos, he’s into doing everything naturally and has posted so many informative videos on YouTube. I like how he explains everything.

 

I hope you find something that works @BfromNJ

 

Sending hugs🤗

I'll check it out.  I have seen online that also baking soda is good, but cant seem to find anything about whether it's ok with meds.   I suppose a pharmacist would know.

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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7 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Please research baking soda for reflux and post in this topic, with relevant links.

Okay.  It's supposed to be the sodium bicarbonate that neutralizes acid.  

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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I have no idea how much of this is caused by WD and how much of it is not, but it’s miserable. Smaller meals seem to help. Also, less carbs and dairy. If anyone has any other suggestions, I’m all ears. Been off ppis for like 2 years now. Was on for like 6 years. 

2008: start Lexapro 10 mg which is quickly upped to 20 mg. 2008:2013 try at least four individual times to get off Lexapro, never get lower than 5mg, settle at 15 mg. 2015: again, attempt to get off Lexapro and get to 5 mg. After 6 months, feel i'm stabilizing but go back on a higher dose because of one stressful event. 2016: go to 20 mg from 15 mg due to work stresses, hit severe tolerance for the first time and become very suicidal. 2016-2017: try viibryd and cymbata in an attempt to feel better. Also add Lamictal 150 at some point. 2017: eventually land on paxil 37.5 and Lamictal 150. January 2018: cut paxil to 25. April-July 2018: reduce Lamictal in 50 mg increments till im off August. 2018: reduce paxil to 20 mg. december 2018: dropped Paxil to 18 mg, SEVERE CRASH. March updosed to 20 mg April 11: dropped to 19.4 mg due to akathsia (still experiencing akathsia symptoms from updose) April 20: 19 mg Paxil May 4: 18.7 Paxil July 5: 18.2 July 12: 17.8 Aug 19: 17.5 Aug 26: 17.3 Oct 20: 17.1 Nov 3: 16.9, 8/17/20: 16.6 after nine month hold, 8/24/20: 16.4, 8/31/20:16.2, 9/14/2020: 16.0, 9/21/20: 15.8, 9/28/20: 15.6, 10/19/20:15.4, 10/26/20: 15.2, 11/2/20: 15.1, 11/7/20: 14.8, 3/6/2-: 14.5, 3/20/20: 14.3, 4/3/20: 13.9, 4/10/2021: 13.7. 4/21/21: 13.5, 5/5/2021: 13.1, 12.2 8/12/2021 (slowly microtapered to this number. I just can’t remember the exact dates), 11.8 9/6/2021, 11.6 9/13/21, 11.2 9/27/21, 11.1 9/30/21.....11/5/21 switched to 10 mg tablet. I am holding to stabilize for the foreseeable future. 3/25/22: 9.4, 5/6/22: 9.0, 5/30/22: 8.25, 6/7/22: 8.1, 7/722: 7.65, 8/16/22: 7.39, 9/22/22: 6.91, 10/1/22: 6.78

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On 9/25/2015 at 7:20 PM, Altostrata said:

From personal experience, I recommend digestive enzymes or betaine HCL (often comes with pepsin, an enzyme).

 

Or, stop eating the foods that cause reflux, such as dairy.

@Altostrata What if everything causes an upset stomach - ranging from eating food to getting sexually aroused?  I already gave up soy, dairy, sugar, coffee, gluten.  Definitely something with the vagus nerve if I had to guess.  My GI doc said to take Pepcid but I have not yet.  I do feel some sort of stuff in my throat and when I eat food it just sits.  I definitely have some sort of GERD as well as constipation.  Thanks!

- for 16 years took: morning: lexapro 10 mg, wellbutrin xl 150mg; evening: paxil 2.5 mg, zoloft 25mg

- feb 22:  tried to change and decreased paxil to 1.25 and zoloft to 50 and experienced eurphoria and possible mania, needed less sleep, etc.

- decreased zoloft back to 25 over 2 weeks and decreased paxil to 0

- withdrawal started a few days later and increased paxil back to 1.25 - stabilized but flat after a couple days (eventually got paxil back to 2.5)

- also took levaquin for possible prostatitis

- never really improved and we tried deplin, different formulations of generics and brand names

- Mid June 2019 lost the ability to sleep completely

- 7/1/19 cold turkeyed in hospital off 2.5 paxil and shortly thereafter 25 zoloft, titrated lithium up to 1200 but settled at 900mg

- 8/10/19 tried 12.5 lexapro for 2 weeks with disastrous sensitivities 

- 8/26/19 and currently: morning: 10 mg lexapro, 150 wellbutrin xl; evening: lithium 900 mg (Took klonopin for wknd)
9/20 tapered to 780mg lithium from 900mg - hypomania almost immediately, tinnitus, dizziness, pain, burning, freezing cold

- 9/29 reinstated to 900mg lithium

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Stay away from taking or eating things that make you feel worse. Look into treating your constipation with natural means -- such as eating a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables -- regularizing your bowel movements.

 

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Hi 

 

Just a quick note about bake soda :

Since in acute WD, I used bake soda 3 times because of hard heartburns. I didn't do it more : best To be prudent, even if it works really Well.

I Simply put a coffeespoon in some water, mix it and drink it.

Sorry for the détails, but you can notice it works because you'll quickly have big burps. 

 

These burps Simply are the result of the meeting between acid field and bake soda which is a basic solution.

 

Best strategy is, of course, To avoid meals that can promote heartburns (acid food, junkfood, food hard To digest,...).

 

I Will see if I find some articles in English that I understand To post it.

 

good day To all.

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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been suffering from reflux and LPR lately, lost nearly 2 stone in last couple months as not been able to eat without throat swelling, anyway done loads of research and came across a supplement called D-limonene, been on it 3 days and getting no reflux, from what been reading about this supplement a lot of people calling it a magic bullet for reflux, worth a try for anyone suffering reflux, links below:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0025PX4JC

 

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2007/4/atd

 

https://www.fixyourgut.com/d-limonene-for-heartburn-relief/

 

https://www.drweil.com/health-wellness/body-mind-spirit/gastrointestinal/what-quenches-heartburn/

2001 - 2005 prozac,  2001 - 2017 various benzos, mainly diazapem and zanex,  2002 - 2017 olanzapine or seroquel,  2002 -2017 propanolol, 2005 - 2009 venlafaxine 75mg , forced to go cold turkey off venlafaxine as moved Thailand, doctor cut me off and couldn't get it there, severely ill for over 2 years, countered withdrawals with more zanex and seroquel

2014 returned to UK, mainly to get treatment getting off meds

doctor advised to taper seroquel over a few weeks, severely ill and bed bed-bound so reinstated it, 2015 tapered seroquel myself slower over a few months, was off it 2 months and was too ill so went on olanzapine, became zombie and too tired to get out of bed, went back on seroquel, very depressed so went back on venlafaxine, didnt work  so doctor swapped to zoloft became very agitated so back on venlafaxine

June 2016 - felt strong enough to begin tapering again, started what I thought was a slow taper of all meds,  2016 July Not had any alcoholic drink since this date, 

2016 October completely off diazepem, 2017 Feb completely off seroquel, 2017 March completely off proponanlol, 2017 April (day before birthday) completely off venlafaxine, OFF ALL MEDS 11/4/2017, was fine for nearly 3 months and then delayed withdrawal hit,

supplements taking: turmeric capsules, NiaCel (nicotinamide riboside), Vit B12 sublingual, Vit B3, Vit B6, Vit B1, apple cider vinegar, manuka umf 10 honey, camu camu powder,  melatonin when needed, epsom salt baths, juices, smoothies, 

Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15175-dj2010-off-all-meds-for-3-months-and-been-fine-now-bad-insomnia/

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been suffering from reflux and LPR lately, lost nearly 2 stone in last couple months as not been able to eat without throat swelling, anyway done loads of research and came across a supplement called D-limonene, been on it 3 days and getting no reflux, from what been reading about this supplement a lot of people calling it a magic bullet for reflux, worth a try for anyone suffering reflux, links below:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0025PX4JC

 

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2007/4/atd

 

https://www.fixyourgut.com/d-limonene-for-heartburn-relief/

 

https://www.drweil.com/health-wellness/body-mind-spirit/gastrointestinal/what-quenches-heartburn/

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4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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On 9/5/2018 at 12:18 PM, Junglechicken said:

 

Sorry for late response Tikki.

 

I'm not following any special diet (have done enough of those as it is).

 

Just a straight forward NHS "Eat4Health" 12 week program.  I've reached Week 8 and have lost almost 14Ibs.

 

I think it's more to do with eating healthier which in turn improves overall gut health.

 

Things are very different this year.

 

My weight loss is extremely slow for 2 reasons:

 

1) I had the mirena coil fitted - early Aug 2019.  Gut functioning slowed right down over time.

 

2) Protracted WD - gut issues/reflux.

 

I have only lost 5Ibs since early Jan.

 

 

Dose History: 19 Feb 2014 - Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms faded. Held at this dose and experienced "windows and waves". 12 Oct 2017 Reduced dose to 1.25mg. 13 Mar 2018 Reduced dose to 0.625mg (approx.). 16 April 2018 0mg. Windows and waves triggered by stress (IBS/reflux, headaches, sinus issues) Aug 2019 Mirena coil fitted 6 Jan 2020 MAJOR Wave hit 19 months following last dose (protracted WD).  Symptoms listed below Mar 2020 Mirena coil removal.

Therapy: Nov 15th 2016 Re-started therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT Dec 2017 Started listening to Hypnotherapy CD (self-esteem). Nov 2019 Started couples therapy.

Supplements: "Bioglan" Biotic Balance Ultimate Flora 10 billion CFU, live Bacteria, Probiotic, suitable for Vegetarians, with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Bifidobacterium Longum"Pukka" Vitalise a unique blend of 30 energising botanicals.

Diet: 16 April 2018 Detox cleanse / anti-candida for 90 days. Jan 2020 Started "small plate" diet (i.e child size portions).

Exercise: Stretching, Yoga, Pilates, Spinning, Elliptical/upper body workout, walking.

Medical Test Results: 4 Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 24 Feb 2017 Started weight loss program 24 Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment + anti-Candida diet started due to suspected Candida Related Complex (CRC). DETOXED for 7 weeks to "re-set" gut. April 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Comprehensive Stool Analysis NEGATIVE; Full Blood Count (Normal) / Blood Cholesterol: 5.6 (Borderline) / Blood Sugar (Normal) / 28 Jun 2017 FSH 8.2 / 14 Nov 2017 FSH 17.7 Dec 2017 Blood Cholesterol: 3.9 (Normal) / Kidney Function (Normal) / Blood Sugar (Normal). December 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Food panel allergy (bloodwork) analysis - a few "VERY LOW/VL" allergens; Mar 2018 "Genova Diagnostics" SIBO urine analysis: High Level of Yeast/fungal markers found in small intestine but NO SIBO.  April 2018 Thyroid (Normal) / Full Blood Count (Normal) / FSH (Normal). 16 April 2018 Started anti-Candida diet - 3 month protocol.   25 March 2020 All test results "Normal". CRP" 5 mg/L (normal range to 0-5 mg/L).

Symptoms:  Flu-like symptoms, anxiety, anhedonia, sinus headaches right-side (severe), IBS issues/reflux (severe)**, tinnitus, fatigue, inner tremor, nausea, chills/hot flushes, pounding heart, muscular issues including stiff left hip flexor, intense anger, PSSD (ongoing).  **Histhamine intolerance (suspected).

Major Life Events: 

Re-located to UK from Canada: Jan 2016

My father died: 5:05pm, Monday 5 Feb 2018 Last Lexapro dose: 16 April 2018 (its now been over a year since I quit ADs)  Moved house: Friday 23rd February 2018  "Divorced" toxic Mother: Monday 26 March 2018 Starting working again: 19 November 2018  Diagnosed with: 5th August 2021 PTSD/C-PTSD Diagnosed with: March 2022 Interstitial Cystitis (IC)/Painful bladder syndrome

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Hunger causing increased symptoms

 

Hi guys, do any of you experience acid reflux when hunger hits and then symotoms increasing? It started happening around 2 months ago and its not letting up, stomach tests do not show anything unusual.

20-30 mins after eating, things are better.

Any idea of what is causing it?

 

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Lorazepam -2 weeks-1 week 3 mg.4 days 2mg, 3 days 1mg. 13-27 November 2018

Lexapro -2 months-6 weeks of 10mg, 2 weeks of 5mg 27 November 2018-27 January 2019

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How often do you eat?

* NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA *

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:  (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq  on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

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How often do you eat?

Hi ChessieCat.I eat like 3 4 consistent meals per day and i drink a lot of water also.

Lorazepam -2 weeks-1 week 3 mg.4 days 2mg, 3 days 1mg. 13-27 November 2018

Lexapro -2 months-6 weeks of 10mg, 2 weeks of 5mg 27 November 2018-27 January 2019

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On 9/7/2020 at 9:32 AM, Kronos18 said:

Hunger causing increased symptoms

 

Hi guys, do any of you experience acid reflux when hunger hits and then symotoms increasing? It started happening around 2 months ago and its not letting up, stomach tests do not show anything unusual.

20-30 mins after eating, things are better.

Any idea of what is causing it?

 

 

Because you feel increased symptoms before eating and then after eating it lessens you could try eating small amounts more often throughout the day.

 

I've found that during my taper there have been times when I get hungry more often and other times where I don't get hungry.  Other members have mentioned the same thing.

 

It could be that you are getting hungry, but may not feel it, and the acid is because your stomach is getting ready to accept and digest food.  That is I made the above suggestion.

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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:  (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq  on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

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On 12/3/2019 at 5:31 AM, dj2010 said:

been suffering from reflux and LPR lately, lost nearly 2 stone in last couple months as not been able to eat without throat swelling, anyway done loads of research and came across a supplement called D-limonene, been on it 3 days and getting no reflux, from what been reading about this supplement a lot of people calling it a magic bullet for reflux, worth a try for anyone suffering reflux, links below:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0025PX4JC

 

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2007/4/atd

 

https://www.fixyourgut.com/d-limonene-for-heartburn-relief/

 

https://www.drweil.com/health-wellness/body-mind-spirit/gastrointestinal/what-quenches-heartburn/

 

I am going to try this as my reflux has increased since WD began. I also sleep on a wedge and that does help. I take famotidine (mod note: Pepcid) twice a day, ginger and some baking soda. I did try apple cider vinegar for a few weeks with mixed results (had to supplement with baking soda and that neutralized the experiment). The apple cider vinegar comes from the opposite approach meaning our stomachs aren't producing enough acid.

 

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Citalopram (Celexa), 40 mg since 2016. Tapered Jun - Aug 2019

Clonazepam (Klonopin), 2 mg since 2016. Tapered Jun - Aug 2017. Reinstated 0.5 mg Jan 2020. Tapered Nov 2020 - Present

Lorazepam (Ativan), 1 mg (as needed for panic attacks) since 2016. Quit May 2020.

Escitalopram (Lexapro), 20 mg Sep 2019. Quit Nov 2019

Sertraline (Zoloft), 100 mg since Nov 2019. Tapered Apr - Jun 2020

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Hello,

 

Several different French people who had issues with PPI have talked to me about a supplement called "Neobianacid" :

 

https://www.neobianacid.com/neobianacid/

 

Ingredients :

 

"-Molecular complex of polysaccharides (obtained from Aloe Vera, Malva sylvestris, Althea officinalis) and the minerals Limestone and Nahcolite.

- Flavonoid fraction : obtained from Matricaria recutita and Glycyrrhiza glabra

- also contains : cane sugar, gum arabic, natural mint flavoring.

 

Except the fact that it contains different ingredients (which makes it hard to know what causes an issue if you react), the ingredients list sounds ok to me (or I'm missing something).

 

I haven't introduce a supplement since 2019 , but I think I'm gonna give it a try with a quarter of a tablet and will let you know if it helps.

(not sure if it's available in the USA, but it is in Europe) 

 

(Im not recommending people to take supplements. If you do try, please try carefully and take the time to read about it).

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hi Erell

Hope you're doing fine. Any updates on Neobianacid for WD stomach issues?

-2015 september zoloft (20 mg updosed to 125) plus clonazepam for anxiety and panic attacks

2016 Jan replaced clonazepam with chlorodiazpoxide 20 mg

-2016 April cold turkeyed both after a urinary retention surgery with no withdrawal symptom at all

-2018 Jan perscribed Nortriptyline 10 mg for vestibular vertigo 

-2018 Feb due to the horrible side effects which my psychiatrist took for depression and anxiety, Nortriptyline began to be updosed to reach 100 in June

-2018 Oct noticed I wasexperiencing no pleasure in life and decided to taper(zombie-style kind of life)Tapered to fast to reach 50 mg in 2019 Feb

-Terrible withdrawal symtoms began to creep up, had to updose to 75 in June 2019

-Began to make changes in diet and lifestyle and tapered again to reach 30 by 2020 Jan

-(using Brassmonkey method from here on)By May 2020 reached 22.5 when my whole taper process hit the wall due to infection to God-damned Covid 19. Late Sep 2020 restarted my taper 16 mg in Jan 2021, Jan 2021 to Feb down from 16mg to 14.5mg,Feb to March 13mg,March to July had to hold on 13mg due to being sold counterfeit drugs, took me a while to find out and get a new batch and get back on track again,July to August 11.5 mg,August to Sep 10.5 mg,Sep to Oct 9.5 mg, Jan 2022 started the water solution Nori, had to hold for a few months due to the horrible side effects of Covid shots, restarted taper on June 2022, March 2023(now) 1.8 mg (deem myself 60 to 70 percent recovered and functional)

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Hi @Iman

 

I don't have much to say as I've b

used it only a few times : I only take one in the evening if my acid reflux is severe and don't let me sleep.

I haven't experienced any negative effect from it : in my humble opinion the ingredients are safe, However please keep in mind that we can be particularly sensitive and that everybody react differently.

 

I also have realised that baking soda can provoke a "vicious circle" if used too often : I've noticed that if use it several days in a row, it tends to worsen the issue, like if it stimulates acidity production in my stomach.

Be aware that I'm not making a scientific statement : it's just something that I have noticed and discussed with several people who seem to have the same experience.

 

I found that this symptom tends to improve in a windows and waves pattern in my case, hope you'll find relief soon ☀️

2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam.

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg).

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil

Current medication :

* 7pm Diazepam  : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Thanks a billion dear for the pretty useful and eye-opening info. Acid reflux truly a pain in the neck, I experience it for a few days when I eneter the WD-related symptoms during each taper I make. It tends to be most severe almost 8 days after my tapers. I usually keep it subsided using Famotidine 40 mg and one Omeprazole the day after. I'm on 10 mg Nortriptylime now and WD seems to he more pronouced these final steps. I wish you the best and thanks a lot for your swift reply. 🙏🙏🌷🌷

-2015 september zoloft (20 mg updosed to 125) plus clonazepam for anxiety and panic attacks

2016 Jan replaced clonazepam with chlorodiazpoxide 20 mg

-2016 April cold turkeyed both after a urinary retention surgery with no withdrawal symptom at all

-2018 Jan perscribed Nortriptyline 10 mg for vestibular vertigo 

-2018 Feb due to the horrible side effects which my psychiatrist took for depression and anxiety, Nortriptyline began to be updosed to reach 100 in June

-2018 Oct noticed I wasexperiencing no pleasure in life and decided to taper(zombie-style kind of life)Tapered to fast to reach 50 mg in 2019 Feb

-Terrible withdrawal symtoms began to creep up, had to updose to 75 in June 2019

-Began to make changes in diet and lifestyle and tapered again to reach 30 by 2020 Jan

-(using Brassmonkey method from here on)By May 2020 reached 22.5 when my whole taper process hit the wall due to infection to God-damned Covid 19. Late Sep 2020 restarted my taper 16 mg in Jan 2021, Jan 2021 to Feb down from 16mg to 14.5mg,Feb to March 13mg,March to July had to hold on 13mg due to being sold counterfeit drugs, took me a while to find out and get a new batch and get back on track again,July to August 11.5 mg,August to Sep 10.5 mg,Sep to Oct 9.5 mg, Jan 2022 started the water solution Nori, had to hold for a few months due to the horrible side effects of Covid shots, restarted taper on June 2022, March 2023(now) 1.8 mg (deem myself 60 to 70 percent recovered and functional)

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On 8/31/2021 at 4:03 AM, Iman said:

@Erell

 

Thanks a billion dear for the pretty useful and eye-opening info. Acid reflux truly a pain in the neck, I experience it for a few days when I eneter the WD-related symptoms during each taper I make. It tends to be most severe almost 8 days after my tapers. I usually keep it subsided using Famotidine 40 mg and one Omeprazole the day after. I'm on 10 mg Nortriptylime now and WD seems to he more pronouced these final steps. I wish you the best and thanks a lot for your swift reply. 🙏🙏🌷🌷


hey currently dealing with acid reflex. Has your gone away now? Any tips 🙂

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Hey there. Hope all is fine with you. My acid reflux have become considerably better and so infrequent in the past few months. The lower my dose goes, the better I seem to get in terms of gastrointestinal issues. I'm now on 7.3 mg of Nortriptyline. How have you been doing?

-2015 september zoloft (20 mg updosed to 125) plus clonazepam for anxiety and panic attacks

2016 Jan replaced clonazepam with chlorodiazpoxide 20 mg

-2016 April cold turkeyed both after a urinary retention surgery with no withdrawal symptom at all

-2018 Jan perscribed Nortriptyline 10 mg for vestibular vertigo 

-2018 Feb due to the horrible side effects which my psychiatrist took for depression and anxiety, Nortriptyline began to be updosed to reach 100 in June

-2018 Oct noticed I wasexperiencing no pleasure in life and decided to taper(zombie-style kind of life)Tapered to fast to reach 50 mg in 2019 Feb

-Terrible withdrawal symtoms began to creep up, had to updose to 75 in June 2019

-Began to make changes in diet and lifestyle and tapered again to reach 30 by 2020 Jan

-(using Brassmonkey method from here on)By May 2020 reached 22.5 when my whole taper process hit the wall due to infection to God-damned Covid 19. Late Sep 2020 restarted my taper 16 mg in Jan 2021, Jan 2021 to Feb down from 16mg to 14.5mg,Feb to March 13mg,March to July had to hold on 13mg due to being sold counterfeit drugs, took me a while to find out and get a new batch and get back on track again,July to August 11.5 mg,August to Sep 10.5 mg,Sep to Oct 9.5 mg, Jan 2022 started the water solution Nori, had to hold for a few months due to the horrible side effects of Covid shots, restarted taper on June 2022, March 2023(now) 1.8 mg (deem myself 60 to 70 percent recovered and functional)

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@peaceandlove

 

Hey there. Hope all is fine with you. My acid reflux have become considerably better and so infrequent in the past few months. The lower my dose goes, the better I seem to get in terms of gastrointestinal issues. I'm now on 7.3 mg of Nortriptyline. How have you been doing?


hey! Not so good I’m all of a sudden experiencing heart burn & stomach aches. I have no appetite as well. Are you on a diet at all?

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On 11/14/2019 at 8:35 PM, Frankgrimes said:

@Altostrata What if everything causes an upset stomach - ranging from eating food to getting sexually aroused?  I already gave up soy, dairy, sugar, coffee, gluten.  Definitely something with the vagus nerve if I had to guess.  My GI doc said to take Pepcid but I have not yet.  I do feel some sort of stuff in my throat and when I eat food it just sits.  I definitely have some sort of GERD as well as constipation.  Thanks!


hey how are you now? Are you still having acid reflux? @Frankgrimes

 

I have the same GERD / constipation problems as you 

April 2022- Only 1 celxa pill 10mg

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On 6/28/2019 at 7:06 AM, Sottana said:

I have no idea how much of this is caused by WD and how much of it is not, but it’s miserable. Smaller meals seem to help. Also, less carbs and dairy. If anyone has any other suggestions, I’m all ears. Been off ppis for like 2 years now. Was on for like 6 years. 


 

hey how are you now? Are you still having acid reflux? @Sottana

 

April 2022- Only 1 celxa pill 10mg

had an adverse reaction & never took anymore again 

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On 11/26/2019 at 1:38 PM, Erell said:

Hi 

 

Just a quick note about bake soda :

Since in acute WD, I used bake soda 3 times because of hard heartburns. I didn't do it more : best To be prudent, even if it works really Well.

I Simply put a coffeespoon in some water, mix it and drink it.

Sorry for the détails, but you can notice it works because you'll quickly have big burps. 

 

These burps Simply are the result of the meeting between acid field and bake soda which is a basic solution.

 

Best strategy is, of course, To avoid meals that can promote heartburns (acid food, junkfood, food hard To digest,...).

 

I Will see if I find some articles in English that I understand To post it.

 

good day To all.

My problems with digestion have lasted for over a year (3.5 years of antidepressant withdrawal)
I have had the pharmacy make small packets of powder because I cannot make an aqueous solution so accurately myself
Once a day, I shake the powder on my tongue and drink water
I usually eat something first.
However, the smallest Anafranil tablet is 10 mg and I am already at 8 mg
Unfortunately, I have had very bad digestion for a year, there is often nausea, bloating and a strong feeling of gas, sometimes there is bile reflux.
I can no longer eat dairy products, meat, nuts and lots of other things that were not a problem before
Can't eat spicy and sour
The taste of ice cream and cheese is already forgotten
When I eat, I usually get gas or flatulence at the same time
Usually after eating it is better for about an hour and then bad again
There is a constant feeling of heaviness in the stomach, the stomach is hard to the touch, probably full of gas.
You can't massage your stomach because it gets really bad.
I am also constantly very tired and can only work for a few hours (light work)
I have lost about 25 kg in the last six months
B12 and folate are also low.
I went to the doctor 2 months ago and had an endoscopy
It showed that the end of the esophagus is numb-irritated, the stomach is generally normal, the duodenum is red and irritated
In addition, it showed that the pyloric diaphragmatic valve is loose and does not close
Gastritis and reflux were diagnosed
PPs and antibiotics were prescribed, but I couldn't take them because they made it worse
There was no Helicobacter pylori
I have also taken digestive enzymes, but they have not solved the problem.
It seems that I have bad stomach acid and the food is not digested, it remains stagnant for a long time
Another possibility is gastroparesis, but I don't know if this is the case.
Unfortunately, proteins cannot be digested well, and the stool is light-fatty
If half a year ago there was frequent diarrhea, now a few months it is mainly constipation
I have also tried probiotics without much success
A breath test showed no SIBOT
It seems to me that at the same time there is still an inflammation of the stomach or intestine, because there is often a sick feeling and weakness
Usually, after lunch, later the head becomes drowsy, brain fog-
I don't know what to do because it seems that at the same time there is chronic inflammation and too little stomach acid / Atrophic gastritis?
Perhaps the powder should be put in a capsule so as not to irritate the stomach?
I didn't have such problems before.
Withdrawal has created a lot of stress-anxiety and adrenaline and this has caused this.
I tried to drink soda water this morning to test if there is too little stomach acid.
No bloating or gas after drinking soda water on an empty stomach.
What to do and any suggestions?

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On 5/3/2023 at 10:06 AM, Estman said:

My problems with digestion have lasted for over a year (3.5 years of antidepressant withdrawal)
I have had the pharmacy make small packets of powder because I cannot make an aqueous solution so accurately myself
Once a day, I shake the powder on my tongue and drink water
I usually eat something first.
However, the smallest Anafranil tablet is 10 mg and I am already at 8 mg
Unfortunately, I have had very bad digestion for a year, there is often nausea, bloating and a strong feeling of gas, sometimes there is bile reflux.
I can no longer eat dairy products, meat, nuts and lots of other things that were not a problem before
Can't eat spicy and sour
The taste of ice cream and cheese is already forgotten
When I eat, I usually get gas or flatulence at the same time
Usually after eating it is better for about an hour and then bad again
There is a constant feeling of heaviness in the stomach, the stomach is hard to the touch, probably full of gas.
You can't massage your stomach because it gets really bad.
I am also constantly very tired and can only work for a few hours (light work)
I have lost about 25 kg in the last six months
B12 and folate are also low.
I went to the doctor 2 months ago and had an endoscopy
It showed that the end of the esophagus is numb-irritated, the stomach is generally normal, the duodenum is red and irritated
In addition, it showed that the pyloric diaphragmatic valve is loose and does not close
Gastritis and reflux were diagnosed
PPs and antibiotics were prescribed, but I couldn't take them because they made it worse
There was no Helicobacter pylori
I have also taken digestive enzymes, but they have not solved the problem.
It seems that I have bad stomach acid and the food is not digested, it remains stagnant for a long time
Another possibility is gastroparesis, but I don't know if this is the case.
Unfortunately, proteins cannot be digested well, and the stool is light-fatty
If half a year ago there was frequent diarrhea, now a few months it is mainly constipation
I have also tried probiotics without much success
A breath test showed no SIBOT
It seems to me that at the same time there is still an inflammation of the stomach or intestine, because there is often a sick feeling and weakness
Usually, after lunch, later the head becomes drowsy, brain fog-
I don't know what to do because it seems that at the same time there is chronic inflammation and too little stomach acid / Atrophic gastritis?
Perhaps the powder should be put in a capsule so as not to irritate the stomach?
I didn't have such problems before.
Withdrawal has created a lot of stress-anxiety and adrenaline and this has caused this.
I tried to drink soda water this morning to test if there is too little stomach acid.
No bloating or gas after drinking soda water on an empty stomach.
What to do and any suggestions?

Next month its going to be 3 years that I'm  off of antidepressants. I also have stomach issues.   I dnt eat dairy products, sugar, caffeine, soda,  fried foods, greasy foods, acidic fruits.  I take 1 oz of aloe vera water  after every meal that, 10 min later,  1 tsp with 8 oz of baking soda. I started taking food enzymes again to see if that helps

Year 2010 to 2020 remeron, Buspar, atenelol, Ativan as needed (once a week)  remeron  stopped working (pooped out)

oct 2020 started amitryptyline took it 3 months 

Dec started wellbutrin, Stopped it 3 months later 

Started Paxil again for 3 months

took vibryd for 1 month, Stopped it in 5 days 

Started sam e 100mgs 3x a day, Tyrosine 1000mgs 3 x a dayfor 6 months 

August 2020 - Off all antidepressants 

16 th of Feb, 2023  started taperingsam e  the 100mg  2 x a day of sam e. I stopped taking the  afternoon one. And started every other day then every r day.

 

 

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