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Graziella

Is liquid mirtazapine available in Canada? Also, what is the scale called? I would like to order it.

 

 

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Hello, Graziella. We can answer your questions in your Introductions topic, please start one.


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Courageous

I created yet another taper schedule calculator here:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/166G5PM7EGT8J73yehbISokbQ7IAcbjPUudb5TfXitao/

 

Please try it out and double check the math for me.  If you find it useful then please add it to the top post.

 


  • 2019-01-16 50 mg of Trazodone 2x/week
  • 01-23 up to 100 mg, various frequencies and dosages
  • 05-03 100 mg
  • 05-10 90 mg
  • 05-16 Starting tapering by 2.5 mg/day
  • 05-30 50 mg
  • 05-31 65 mg
  • 06-07 75 mg
  • 06-15 67.5 mg
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India

Conversion from mg to liquid for micro-taper is proving challenging.

Can an algebraic formula be provided by anyone to apply converting the different values each day?

I know that you need to do dilution first to complete the above,

If my liquid is 40mg active ingredient per 1ml, then how much should I dilute the liquid if starting my microtaper at 5.4mg?

 


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2010-2017: Citalopram (20mg) (age 27 to 34) 2016: i.1st Sept- 31st Oct Citalopram 10mg , ii.1st November 2017-30th November 2017, Citalopram 5mg iii.1st December 2017- 4th February 2018, Citalopram 0mg, iv.5th February 2018- March 2018 Citalopram 5mg (10mg every other day) 28th February- tried titration of 5mg ( some adverse effects)

2018: 1st March 2018- 1st June Citalopram 10 mg (tablet form) /started titration 8mg , then 7 mg.2018: June 15th- 10th July Citalopram 10 mg pill every other day 2018: 10th July - 13th Sept Citalopram- 0mg  (CBD oil first month of 0mg, passiflora on and off) 2018 13th Sept Citalopram  2mg ,  approx 16th Sept 4mg , approx 25th Sept 6mg held.  2019: 11 Feb 19: 7mg (instant bad rxn) 12 Feb 19 6mg held 1 May 19 5.4mg held 5 Oct 19 5.36mg 22 Oct 19 5.29mg 30 Oct 19 5.23mg 4/NOV/19 5.18mg 12 Nov 19 5.08mg 20 Nov 19 4.77mg

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Superwoman

This is a chart that I created to log your taper data.  It has columns for Reduction Cycle, Percent Reduced, Start date, end date, start dose MGAI, End dose MGAI, Beads removed, remaining beads and notes/symptoms.  Please free to use.  I made it on Microsoft Word.

Antidepressant Reduction Chart.docx


1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Superwoman

Note, you need to use Microsoft Word to open the above file.  I tried to open it on my phone and it does not show up properly. 


1993-2000: Zoloft few months CT, Prozac 1-2 yrs, Ritalin PRN

2002/2003: Wellbutrin,  Paxil 25mg FT, and Xanax PRN CT (all 3 to 6 months), Adderal 40mg, Strattera 40mg

2003- 2016: Effexor XR 75 mg to 150 mg., Strattera (2002-2008)

2017: Effexor XR 225 mg. Gabapentin 300 mg. Elavil 25 mg.

2018: (Sept.) Effexor XR 187.5 mg, Zoloft 10 mg. (OCT.) FT off Gabapentin (NOV.) FT off Elavil (DEC) FT Effexor to 150 mg.

2019: (JAN.) D/C Zoloft, added Viibryd 10mg (FEB) CT Viibryd, (MAR) Prozac bridge, Effexor xr 112.5mg, (Sept.) Effexor XR 112.5 mg + 0.4 mg (1 bead), (Oct.) Effexor XR 112.5mg, (Dec.28) start 10% taper Effexor XR 101.25 mg, 

2020: (Jan. 25) Effexor XR 91 mg., (Feb. 22) Effexor xr 82 mg., (Mar. 21) 75 mg. 

Supplements:  Vitamin D 5000 IU topical, Probiotic 6 billion CFU, Epsom salt bath 1C 2 to 3 X week, California Poppy 2 droppers, various essential oils 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21446-superwoman-effexor-taper/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-475779

 

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Kornyboyo1917

For the standard taper it seems the starting dose cell and reduction cylce cell is the wrong way?  Can anyone look and double check that?


2011 - 2012 Prozac CT symptoms hit a month later and reinstated (took a couple weeks to stabilize)

2012 - 2016 Different SSRI's but 10mg lexapro for approximately 3 years (took every other day for a while and then stopped - no withdrawal)

2015 - Xanax .5 - 1mg for a few months (no withdrawal)

2017 - Clonzepam 1mg for about 7 months (no withdrawal)

2018 November Clonazepam 1mg for 3.5 weeks with 45 day taper (horrible withdrawal still going)

2019 August 30th put on remeron in psych ward.  7.5mg for a week or so and then 15mg.  Tried to go up to 22.5 but horrible increase in anxiety.  Now at 15mg for over a month.

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Kornyboyo1917

I'm not sure if I am understanding the spreadsheet right or that it is computing wrong?


2011 - 2012 Prozac CT symptoms hit a month later and reinstated (took a couple weeks to stabilize)

2012 - 2016 Different SSRI's but 10mg lexapro for approximately 3 years (took every other day for a while and then stopped - no withdrawal)

2015 - Xanax .5 - 1mg for a few months (no withdrawal)

2017 - Clonzepam 1mg for about 7 months (no withdrawal)

2018 November Clonazepam 1mg for 3.5 weeks with 45 day taper (horrible withdrawal still going)

2019 August 30th put on remeron in psych ward.  7.5mg for a week or so and then 15mg.  Tried to go up to 22.5 but horrible increase in anxiety.  Now at 15mg for over a month.

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Altostrata
On 5/3/2013 at 2:21 PM, Altostrata said:

 

Online spreadsheet for dose taper calculations

This is a Google Doc from Brassmonkey -- There are different tabs at the bottom: Standard, Micro-taper, Brassmonkey Slide. 

Feel free to download this: Select File (in the spreadsheet, not in your browser), then download. You can then upload it to your own Google Docs.

 

 

This spreadsheet has been corrected and revised.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Beigebuoy

Hey guys, 

Not sure if I am in the right thread but I'm still just having a little trouble figuring out how I am supposed to measure out 10% reduced dosages once I go below 1mg of Lexapro oral solution? 
I'm currrenlty at 1mg and holding until I hopefully stabilise. I understand I will have to incorporate the use of a syringe however Im just not sure how Im going to be able to measure out say 10% of 0.9 mg for example. 

Any further insight would be much appreciated. 

Thanks. 


-Zoloft for 2-3 months (late 2010)

-Fast tapered and started citalopram for 2-3 months ( Early 2011)

-Fast tapered and started on lexapro at 10 mg, worked up to 20-25mg (Mid 2011)

-Stayed on Lexapro for a couple of years (2011 to early/mid 2013)

-Stopped for a bit, not sure how long I can't remember. 
-Started lexapro again around 2014, worked up to around 20mg I think. Somewhere in that year tried luvox, bad experience went back to Lexapro.
-Tapered off Lexapro again around mid 2015 maybe? Stayed off until the Beginning of 2018.
-Started back at 10mg, stayed there till the end of 2018. Fast tapered at the beginning of 2019. 
-More severe withdrawal symptoms started, reinstated after a couple of months at 10mg, went up to 20 briefly, back to 10mg until the end of 2019. 

-Since been off Meds from the start of December 2019 to now. 

 

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22 hours ago, Beigebuoy said:

Hey guys, 

Not sure if I am in the right thread but I'm still just having a little trouble figuring out how I am supposed to measure out 10% reduced dosages once I go below 1mg of Lexapro oral solution? 
I'm currrenlty at 1mg and holding until I hopefully stabilise. I understand I will have to incorporate the use of a syringe however Im just not sure how Im going to be able to measure out say 10% of 0.9 mg for example. 

Any further insight would be much appreciated. 

Thanks. 

When I got that low with my Lexapro taper I got a 1 ml syringe. Then I could accurately measure .9 ml and lower. I don’t know where you can get one in Australia. You might try the pharmacy or a vets office. I got mine from the pharmacy. I was also able to get one from my dogs vet. 
 

Hope that helps.


PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal and Prilosec from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3

 Xanax 1mg three times a day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) three times a day to .003 grams three times a day.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!!

 

 

I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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morgana

sorry to be a pain again...i am trying to use the spreedsheet that you can open up on this site i downloaded it but it says view only and i can not type any numbers into the boxes....do you know what i need to do in order to use it...or would it be best to find someone who understands spreedsheets ....lol   .let me know most appreciated...cheers m


Diagnosed with Depression, Borderline Personality Disorder and Schizo-effective Disorder. 

Cipramil  40mg  1996 to October 2017 stopped cold turkey

Zyprexa 10mg solid form  1996 to October 2017

Zyprexa 7.5mg solid form  October 2017 to October 2018

Zyprexa 5mg solid form  October 2018 to April 2020

Zyprexa 3.75mg solid form April 2020 to May 2020

Zyprexa 2.5mg solid form  May 2020 to September 2020

Zyprexa 2.5mg liquid form September to Mid October 2020 - couldnt sleep

Zyprexa 2.5mg solid form  Mid October 2020 to present

Red Wine daily approx upto 1 litre, Mid October 2020 to present

Supplements:   Day Vitamin C and E, B complex, Multi vitamin, Fish Oil, Swisse - Memory + Focus, 1000 mg Magnesium, Swisse - Sleep, Bioglan - Sleep Tablets (6x Meletonin) - not prescriptions 

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Rrsfc

@morgana sorry, don't know maybe @hayduke can help...


2007 - 15mg olanzapine, mood stabilizer, benzo, quetiapine 2009 - aripiprazol, benzo, lamotrigine 100mg 2015 - olzp 15mg, zolpidem 2017 - trazodone 2 weeks, cold turkey, lamotrigine and zolpidem, olzp 15mg, mood stabilizer, benzo 2018 - olzp 5mg, Nov olzp 2,5mg down directly from 5mg no symptoms 2019 - olzp 2,5mg cold turkey Jan after 12 days reinstated, cutting pills Nov 14 days reinstated 2,5mg 2020 - olzp 2,5 water taper by 2,5% now at 2,06125mg (01.08)

 

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ChessieCat

Is someone able to help morgana please?


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 17 Oct 2020:  Pristiq 0.56 mg (compounded + liquid)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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hayduke

Not sure...I made my own but it's way too scrappy to share.

 

@morgana please share the exact link you downloaded from, and are you on mac windows or ??

 

Maybe someone with the same system could see if they get the same error


*** I am not a health professional - your actions are your own ***

 

My taper visualised as a graph   |   My intro thread

 

10mg olanzapine 2003-06.  3mg risperidone 2006-2014 gave slight weight loss but mediocre sleep.  Abrupt x-taper to try aripiprazole Dec 2014 increasingly restless (Freddy the blind man could've seen that coming, shame about the pdoc) then back onto 10mg olanzapine after 3 weeks.

Round 1:  2015 10 -> 7 1/2 -> 6 2/3 -> 5mg olanzapine.   Hadn't researched, just decided to try it myself with pill cutter.  Easy enough.  Next cut to 3 1/3mg for 2 weeks had me struggling to function.  Reverted to 5mg, thought that was as far as I could go.

Round 2:  Given Breggin to read, found SA.  Taper from 5 to 2.5mg over five months.  Titrate liquid suspension using Rhi's method.  Cuts and holds all done by feel.  All samples at start of month in mg:

2018:  Feb 5.0 | Mar 4.5 | Apr 4.25 | May 3.7 | Jun 3.3 | Jul 3.1 | Aug 2.9 | Sep 2.5 and six month hold

Round 3:  2.5mg and below.  EMDR work unearthed and resolved root trauma at around 2.1mg

2019:  Jan 2.5 | Feb 2.3 | Mar 2.215 / EMDR / Apr 1.976 | May 1.875 | Jun 1.825 | Jul 1.625 | Aug 1.525 | Sep 1.46 | Oct 1.3 | Nov 1.225 | Dec 1.25

2020:  Jan 1.214 | Feb 1.1 | Mar 1.0 🙂 | Apr 0.88 | May 0.82 | June 0.74 | July 0.69 | Aug 0.61 | Sep 0.59 | Oct 0.525

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Frogie
5 hours ago, morgana said:

sorry to be a pain again...i am trying to use the spreedsheet that you can open up on this site i downloaded it but it says view only and i can not type any numbers into the boxes....do you know what i need to do in order to use it...or would it be best to find someone who understands spreedsheets ....lol   .let me know most appreciated...cheers m

If it's the same spreadsheet I just opened, there is a yellow bar at the top that says "Enable Editing". Click on that then you can type in the cells.


PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal and Prilosec from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3

 Xanax 1mg three times a day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) three times a day to .003 grams three times a day.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!!

 

 

I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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morgana

thanks for your advice, but that doesnt work for me....i have no idea...i might know someone who i could possibly ask she is good with accounts so should know how to do spreedsheets, i will just have to disclose my illness as i would need to show her this site....thanks for your time....cheers


Diagnosed with Depression, Borderline Personality Disorder and Schizo-effective Disorder. 

Cipramil  40mg  1996 to October 2017 stopped cold turkey

Zyprexa 10mg solid form  1996 to October 2017

Zyprexa 7.5mg solid form  October 2017 to October 2018

Zyprexa 5mg solid form  October 2018 to April 2020

Zyprexa 3.75mg solid form April 2020 to May 2020

Zyprexa 2.5mg solid form  May 2020 to September 2020

Zyprexa 2.5mg liquid form September to Mid October 2020 - couldnt sleep

Zyprexa 2.5mg solid form  Mid October 2020 to present

Red Wine daily approx upto 1 litre, Mid October 2020 to present

Supplements:   Day Vitamin C and E, B complex, Multi vitamin, Fish Oil, Swisse - Memory + Focus, 1000 mg Magnesium, Swisse - Sleep, Bioglan - Sleep Tablets (6x Meletonin) - not prescriptions 

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ChessieCat

@morgana

 

If it was me I would NOT be asking the person to help.  Once you tell somebody something there is no going back.

 

Are you using a phone?

 

It's possible that you have clicked on a link to an old version of the spreadsheet.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pw4tjImAJ92OIVyRvZoZYjqxiKMk7wvp-ljiIi1olRo/edit#gid=0

 

I've just tested this one and it works.

 

This one can be downloaded.  The "File" they mean is not the browser File right at the top of the screen but the File for the spreadsheet.

 

Feel free to download this spreadsheet
Select File from menu above, then download

 

Edited by ChessieCat

Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 17 Oct 2020:  Pristiq 0.56 mg (compounded + liquid)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Morgana is right.  You can't edit the spreadsheet.  You have to request access to edit.


2011 - 2012 Prozac CT symptoms hit a month later and reinstated (took a couple weeks to stabilize)

2012 - 2016 Different SSRI's but 10mg lexapro for approximately 3 years (took every other day for a while and then stopped - no withdrawal)

2015 - Xanax .5 - 1mg for a few months (no withdrawal)

2017 - Clonzepam 1mg for about 7 months (no withdrawal)

2018 November Clonazepam 1mg for 3.5 weeks with 45 day taper (horrible withdrawal still going)

2019 August 30th put on remeron in psych ward.  7.5mg for a week or so and then 15mg.  Tried to go up to 22.5 but horrible increase in anxiety.  Now at 15mg for over a month.

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8 minutes ago, Kornyboyo1917 said:

Morgana is right.  You can't edit the spreadsheet.  You have to request access to edit.

 

Morgana has not provided the link so we don't know which one she is talking about.


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 17 Oct 2020:  Pristiq 0.56 mg (compounded + liquid)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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On 10/1/2020 at 10:29 PM, ChessieCat said:

 

Morgana has not provided the link so we don't know which one she is talking about.

 

Online spreadsheet for dose taper calculations   (Revised and updated September 2020)

This is a Google Sheet from scallywag and Brassmonkey -- There are different tabs at the bottom: Standard, Microtaper, Brassmonkey Slide. 

Feel free to download this: To use with Microsoft Excel, in the Google Sheet (not in your browser), select File, then Download. Or, use Copy to transfer a copy to your own Google Drive.

 

Column F is still taking information from B5 when it should be taking information from B4.  Also, when you click on the link you can only edit the document if you download it. 


2011 - 2012 Prozac CT symptoms hit a month later and reinstated (took a couple weeks to stabilize)

2012 - 2016 Different SSRI's but 10mg lexapro for approximately 3 years (took every other day for a while and then stopped - no withdrawal)

2015 - Xanax .5 - 1mg for a few months (no withdrawal)

2017 - Clonzepam 1mg for about 7 months (no withdrawal)

2018 November Clonazepam 1mg for 3.5 weeks with 45 day taper (horrible withdrawal still going)

2019 August 30th put on remeron in psych ward.  7.5mg for a week or so and then 15mg.  Tried to go up to 22.5 but horrible increase in anxiety.  Now at 15mg for over a month.

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Thanks for providing exact information about what the issue is.  That is very helpful.  I will let the mods know.


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 17 Oct 2020:  Pristiq 0.56 mg (compounded + liquid)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Altostrata
On 9/9/2020 at 11:29 PM, morgana said:

thanks for your advice, but that doesnt work for me....i have no idea...i might know someone who i could possibly ask she is good with accounts so should know how to do spreedsheets, i will just have to disclose my illness as i would need to show her this site....thanks for your time....cheers

 

On 10/4/2020 at 11:24 AM, Kornyboyo1917 said:

 

Online spreadsheet for dose taper calculations   (Revised and updated September 2020)

This is a Google Sheet from scallywag and Brassmonkey -- There are different tabs at the bottom: Standard, Microtaper, Brassmonkey Slide. 

Feel free to download this: To use with Microsoft Excel, in the Google Sheet (not in your browser), select File, then Download. Or, use Copy to transfer a copy to your own Google Drive.

 

Column F is still taking information from B5 when it should be taking information from B4.  Also, when you click on the link you can only edit the document if you download it. 

 

Thanks for the details, @Kornyboyo1917. I fixed it. Please check.

 

@morgana, you need to download the spreadsheet to put your own information in it, or copy it to your own Google Drive.

 

If everybody was able to edit it online, it would change for every editor, wouldn't it? Only one person would be able to use it at a time. You will need to download or copy it. Sorry.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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