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NOTE Also see
 

2009: FDA hears testimony about Cymbalta discontinuation syndrome

 

Study finds some Cymbalta withdrawal "severe and persistant"
 
Doctor is shocked at severe Cymbalta withdrawal symptoms
 
Tips for tapering off Cymbalta (duloxetine)

 



This is a press release seeking leads for lawyers http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1532756
 
To send an inquiry, see http://injury-law.freeadvice.com/injury-law/drug-toxic_chemicals/cymbalta-lawsuits.htm
 
It is not clear what firm, if any, is pursuing these lawsuits.
 
Patients Suffering Withdrawal Symptoms from Major Antidepressant Drug Suspect Manufacturer Hid Risk of Side Effect
 
Consumers who have suffered from withdrawal of Eli Lilly & Company's anti-depressant Cymbalta have reason to believe the drug manufacturer was aware of the risk of side effects but failed to disclose information to the general public.
 
SAUSALITO, CA, October 18, 2013 /24-7PressRelease/ -- Patients using the anti-depressant drug, Cymbalta, have reported a number of physical and emotional side effects suffered after attempting to stop use of the drug. The drug's manufacturer, Eli Lilly & Company, has come under fire for failing to disclose the risks of Cymbalta withdrawal and promoting use of the drug while downplaying its side effects.
 
Free Advice has released new articles covering Cymbalta withdrawal to provide consumers with more information on what symptoms to expect and how injured patients can pursue legal action.
 
FDA Finds Evidence of Cymbalta Side Effects The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has investigated Cymbalta withdrawal symptoms, and released the results of an agency study that found:

 

- Clinical studies of abrupt discontinuation of Cymbalta show that withdrawal occurred in 44 to 50% of patients

- Of patients suffering withdrawal symptoms, 10% of those were severe

- Half of the patients who reported Cymbalta withdrawal had not resolved the side effects at the end of the two week study

Patients in the FDA study displayed a wide array of physical and emotional side effects as a result of abrupt discontinuation of Cymbalta use, including:
 
- Suicidal thoughts
- Tremors
- Nausea
- Appetite changes and weight gain
- Insomnia
- Full body shaking
- Tunnel vision
 
The FDA's study also pointed out that there had been "a serious breakdown at both the FDA and the manufacturer, Eli Lilly and Company, in providing adequate warnings and instructions about how to manage [the side effects]," which suggests that Eli Lilly was aware of the potential side effects from Cymbalta withdrawal and provided neither the FDA nor the American public with adequate warning of the risks.
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Eli Lilly's History of Misleading Cymbalta Advertisements According to patients who have suffered Cymbalta withdrawal, Eli Lilly mislead consumers with a series of aggressive advertisements that highlighted the positive effects of Cymbalta and downplayed, or ignored, the potential risks of withdrawal side effects. As more patients come forward with complaints of withdrawal symptoms, Eli Lilly's recent history of unlawful promotion of the drug could suggest the company was aware of Cymbalta's risks and failed to disclose them to consumers.
 
Eli Lilly was fined in 2007 and 2009 by the FDA for unlawfully promoting Cymbalta through mailings that gave false statements that overstated the effect of the drug and downplaying clinical studies that revealed risks of Cymbalta withdrawal. Further, the company has been accused of selectively publishing study results that over-exaggerate the effect of Cymbalta and hide the risks.
 
Misleading Claims About Cymbalta Side Effects Could Lead to Lawsuits Citing the history of Eli Lilly's fines by the FDA and the suspicion that the company provided misleading study results, patients claim that the company has established a pattern of falsified advertising to press Cymbalta on patients without adequate warning of the risks. Attorneys preparing legal action against the company claim that Eli Lilly was aware of the moderate to severe side effects associated with Cymbalta withdrawal, promoted use of the drug without warning of these risks, and caused patients who used the drug unaware of the consequences significant injury. By arguing that Eli Lilly Company was aware of Cymbalta side effects and downplayed them to promote use of the drug, patients and their attorneys will look to hold the drug manufacturer liable for medical bills and pain & suffering damages. For more information, click here for Free Advice's latest article about Cymbalta lawsuits.
 
As more patients come forward, experienced lawyers are offering consultations with people who have suffered moderate to severe side effects from Cymbalta withdrawal. Typical symptoms last for several weeks after ceasing the use of Cymbalta, or are so severe as to prevent the patient from being able to stop use of the drug. If you or a loved one has suffered from Cymbalta withdrawal, click here for a FREE case evaluation by an experienced attorney. --- Press release service and press release distribution provided by http://www.24-7pressrelease.com

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Apple123

There has to be some known addictive substance being put into these medications, no?

Just like big tobacco and the nicotine. Creating customers for life!

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NewMe

Thank you Alto.

My mom is on Cymbalta and experienced DS after missing one dose. Well duh - 

 

Unfortunately some people can't believe it until they experience DS...and they switch teams and are astonished. 


I'M A WEANER!  :D 
atavan PRN ,Paxil approx 20 yrs ago for major depression
Switched to Klonopin PRN through to current
Paxil wore out
Changed to Effexor 
Depakote added
enormous weight gain - flat affect - led to depression - dropped depakote
Dropped Effexor, changed to Paxil 
PDoc added mixed salts amphetamines for ADHD - took for 2 yrs - was ok at first but had to cut as symptoms too intense -  then the crash was too much. STOPPED
Vyvanse started in 2013 (APRIL) - more smooth than IR amphetamine tabs---Have not used vyvanse daily in full amt since May 2013 

Paxil CT withdrawal 10/2012  :wacko:  Klonopin CT WD

Switched Klonopin to Xanax prn  - too strong

WD CT from XANAX after taking for a while - it was awful but can be done if you hold on!

Back to Klonopin PRN - working very hard to avoid taking it at all. 

Effexor 37.5 started 02/2013, 75mg by 03/2013, 150mg by 05/2012 (approx)  :blush:

Effexor 150mg 3/10/2014 Microtaper -3beads  :unsure:

3/11/2014-4beads ,3/12/14 - 5, 3/13/14 -6, 3/15/14 - 7, 3/18 - 8, 3/22 - 10, 3/24 - 12, 4/6 - 13, 4/7 - 14, 4/11 - 16 - on 4/19 ran out of brand took generic. Bad move. Back on brand on 4/20 and updosed 2 beads. 5/1 - 15, 5/6 - 16, 5/9 -17, 55/10 -17, 5/15 -18, 5/21 -19, 5/24 -20, 6/3 - 21, 6/6 -23, 6/13 -24,6/19- 25, 6/21 -26, 6/25 -27

6/28 -28, 6/29 -30, 7/3 -34, 7/8 -35, 7/17 -36, 7/30 -41,7/31 -42, 8/2 -43, 8/3 -44, 8/5 -45, 8/14 -48, 8/26-50, 9/24 -53, 10/24 -55, 12/1 -57, (lost the tally sheet, thus taper info for some of it), 4/19-63, 4/26-64, 4/30-65 Switched to wt reduction - now @ -.068, 7/14 -.070, August 2015 -.074, between Sept & October 10 -.077, Nov. -.078(feeling great), -.090 as of 1/10/16, down to  -.101 since January 2016 (it is now 6/24/16), -.105 as of 8/13/16
 
 

Ladies, please don't underestimate the possibility of perimenopause. The symptoms can be similar to, may intensify & in some cases mimic protracted w/d from ssri's & benzo's. 

 

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NewMe

I'M A WEANER!  :D 
atavan PRN ,Paxil approx 20 yrs ago for major depression
Switched to Klonopin PRN through to current
Paxil wore out
Changed to Effexor 
Depakote added
enormous weight gain - flat affect - led to depression - dropped depakote
Dropped Effexor, changed to Paxil 
PDoc added mixed salts amphetamines for ADHD - took for 2 yrs - was ok at first but had to cut as symptoms too intense -  then the crash was too much. STOPPED
Vyvanse started in 2013 (APRIL) - more smooth than IR amphetamine tabs---Have not used vyvanse daily in full amt since May 2013 

Paxil CT withdrawal 10/2012  :wacko:  Klonopin CT WD

Switched Klonopin to Xanax prn  - too strong

WD CT from XANAX after taking for a while - it was awful but can be done if you hold on!

Back to Klonopin PRN - working very hard to avoid taking it at all. 

Effexor 37.5 started 02/2013, 75mg by 03/2013, 150mg by 05/2012 (approx)  :blush:

Effexor 150mg 3/10/2014 Microtaper -3beads  :unsure:

3/11/2014-4beads ,3/12/14 - 5, 3/13/14 -6, 3/15/14 - 7, 3/18 - 8, 3/22 - 10, 3/24 - 12, 4/6 - 13, 4/7 - 14, 4/11 - 16 - on 4/19 ran out of brand took generic. Bad move. Back on brand on 4/20 and updosed 2 beads. 5/1 - 15, 5/6 - 16, 5/9 -17, 55/10 -17, 5/15 -18, 5/21 -19, 5/24 -20, 6/3 - 21, 6/6 -23, 6/13 -24,6/19- 25, 6/21 -26, 6/25 -27

6/28 -28, 6/29 -30, 7/3 -34, 7/8 -35, 7/17 -36, 7/30 -41,7/31 -42, 8/2 -43, 8/3 -44, 8/5 -45, 8/14 -48, 8/26-50, 9/24 -53, 10/24 -55, 12/1 -57, (lost the tally sheet, thus taper info for some of it), 4/19-63, 4/26-64, 4/30-65 Switched to wt reduction - now @ -.068, 7/14 -.070, August 2015 -.074, between Sept & October 10 -.077, Nov. -.078(feeling great), -.090 as of 1/10/16, down to  -.101 since January 2016 (it is now 6/24/16), -.105 as of 8/13/16
 
 

Ladies, please don't underestimate the possibility of perimenopause. The symptoms can be similar to, may intensify & in some cases mimic protracted w/d from ssri's & benzo's. 

 

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"Fortunately, for such persons seeking compensation, pediatricians are aware of the signs of a newborn with Effexor effects. Unfortunately, the situation creates a quagmire in choosing whether to wean off the expectant woman off the drug and or keep the expecting woman on the drug and face possible birth defects in the newborn in the near future."

 

this is as close as they get to saying withdrawal is a physical thing... detrimental to the developing fetus...

"create a non- conducive fetal environment that is hostile to the unborn child"

 

I guess if they spelled it out it would open a door for withdrawal damages in men and woman not fetuses. 

 

I am aware there are claims for all antidepressants in birth defects.  I am interested in an adult claim for side effects withdrawal and damages to the body. 

Much of what is in the current warning for effexor does not apply to me as it came out in 2004 I started effexor in 2000. The FDA has countless warning updates for this drug. 

I have not heard of legal cases in Canada not yet. 

Thanks for the link. 

peace


WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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UnfoldingSky

To the mods, I am posting this here and in the media section hoping more people will see it.  I hope that is okay.

 

 

Current withdrawal lawsuit info for Cymbalta can be found here (includes link to legal website where you can apply to be part of class actions if they are in your area):

 

http://fiddaman.blogspot.ca/2014/08/eli-lilly-to-face-cymbalta-lawsuits.html

 

Here's a quote from the legal office that is taking some of the cases:

 

“We believe that Lilly’s warning that Cymbalta withdrawal occurs at a rate greater than or equal to 1% is deceptive.  It is just a sleight of hand.  One of Lilly’s own studies shows that over 50% of patients experience withdrawal when they stop Cymbalta.  1% is not 50%, not even close.  A drug label is not the place to play games with words.  It is a place to honestly inform doctors and patients about the benefits and risks of medicines so they can make informed choices.  Our clients feel strongly that they were betrayed by Lilly and we will do all we can to ensure their voices are heard by the courts.” - R. Brent Wisner, Baum, Hedlund, Aristei & Goldman, P.C

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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Altostrata

One topic is fine -- keeps discussion in one place. Thanks, Unfolding.


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Eli Lilly & Co., the producer of the popular antidepressant Cymbalta (duloxetine), is facing a spate of litigation over injuries associated with the drug. Plaintiffs allege that Cymbalta can cause severe withdrawal symptoms, including dizziness, nausea, headache, fatigue, paresthesia, vomiting, irritability, nightmares, insomnia, diarrhea, anxiety, hyperhidrosis, and vertigo within 12 hours of missing a single dose. Over 28 lawsuits have now been filed before 22 district courts and 21 different judges. Attorneys for the plaintiffs have now asked the Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation (JPML) to consolidate these actions in a California federal court.

The petition filed with the JPML states that “it is likely that many hundreds of cases will be filed during the course of this litigation.” This expected amount of cases with similar facts and injuries generally warrant the creation of a Multidistrict Litigation (MDL) in order to increase the efficiency of pretrial proceedings. In an MDL, discovery and pretrial proceedings affect all cases in the MDL, leading to reduced costs for both parties, as well as consistent rulings from the Court.

Cymbalta was approved by the FDA in 2004 for the treatment of major depressive order. It was later approved in 2007 for the treatment of generalized anxiety disorder, and in 2008, for the treatment of fibromyalgia. Eli Lilly has also been accused by Plaintiffs of marketing the drug with overstated efficacy rates and understated withdrawal effects.
 
In fact, Eli Lilly’s own clinical studies show that at least 44.3% of Cymbalta patients exhibited side effects when they stopped taking the drug. Despite this finding, the label for Cymbalta clearly states that these withdrawal symptoms are rare and only effect 1% of users. Plaintiffs also allege that Eli Lilly’s usage of the word “discontinuation” instead of “withdrawal” when describing the effects of withdrawal from Cymbalta shows the company’s gross understatement of the side effects of Cymbalta.
 
Effects of Withdrawal
The effects of Cymbalta withdrawal can be very painful and disturbing for many victims of the drug. Some patients describe “brain zaps” which literally feel like the brain has been shocked. This side effect is often accompanied by severe dizziness and is seemingly random. Others report suicidal ideation, insomnia, and painful headaches. The withdrawals can last for several months.

What could cause such atypical withdrawal effects? Well, Cymbalta is not a typical antidepressant. Many older antidepressants are selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI), like Prozac and Paxil. These drugs inhibit the reuptake of serotonin, a neurotransmitter in the brain which affects mood. SSRIs come with their own dangers and tolerability issues, but are older and better established. On the other hand, Cymbalta is in a class of drugs called selective serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs) which are newer and less studied. Eli Lilly even admits (along with other SNRI manufacturers) that the precise mechanism of action for this class of drugs is not clear.

Cymbalta was only created after Eli Lilly’s patent on Prozac expired. Prozac has a very long half-life (the time it takes for the drug to be eliminated from the body) which Eli Lilly argued contributed to its low withdrawal rates. Cymbalta, on the other hand, is eliminated quickly from the body, which could be the cause of its more severe side effects from withdrawal.

Although these cases are still in the early stages of litigation, we do hope that the victims of this dangerous drug achieve the justice they deserve. Big pharmaceutical companies too often understate or downplay the risks of their drugs despite evidence to the contrary. Patients need to be informed of all of the risks before they put an unknown substance into their body.
 
-- a press report from attorneys at http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/cymbalta-withdrawal-cases-may-soon-have-05251/


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mammaP

I hope this is successful and leads the way for all the others to be brought to justice too. 


**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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A similar group action regarding Paxil withdrawal was responsible for putting withdrawal warnings on all SSRIs.


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alex

Effexor is a SNRI antidepressant too.

Do people heal from this evil drug...???

At almost 2 and a half years off, I have seen a lot of improvement, but still struggling with lingering issues like scary broken sleep,(not able to sleep even 2 hrs in a row) and bad premature ejaculation.


4 years aprox. on 150mgs.Effexor for situational major depression.No AD before.
Tapered 150-0mgs in 3 months.

Tapered Quetiapine,Xanax in the last 18 months.NO med of any kind anymore.
First 3 months off acute w/d
Protracted w/d ever since.
Symptoms:Anxiety,anhedonia,insomnia,tinnitus,PSSD

04/13/2014 Awful Relapse.Recovered fairly fast.

3 years and 4 months off.

waves and windows.Very much recovered.

November 2015,health issue.Setback.
 

 

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I went through 2 weeks of horrible w/d from Cymbalta after only being ON it for 19 days.  A lot of GI problems and hypomania.  My GP thought I had gallstones. Nasty, nasty drug.


Personal history of GAD and 4 melancholic depressive episodes - two treated with Amityptline

Family history of Bipolar Disorder - goes back at least 3 generations

Adult son with autism, ADHD, intellectual disability and Bipolar II

Put on Aropax / Paxil in July 1997 for anther episode.  Decision to stay on it - worst decision of my life.

Began to poop out in late 2008. Switched to Lexapro March 2009.  Made me suicidal.  Tried Cymbalta for 19 days. Horrible w/d.

Found PP and RI'd Aropax at about the same time - August 2009.  Began slow taper in 2010. Crashed in 13-11mg range in mid 2013.  Switched to Citalopram 21 Oct 2013 in an attempt to stabilise.

 

There are things that are known, and things that are unknown; in between are doors - Anonymous

 

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Cymbalta, on the other hand, is eliminated quickly from the body, which could be the cause of its more severe side effects from withdrawal.

 

 

 

I'll testify to that. Wd symptoms (I now know that is what they were) started in as little as 8 hours after a missed dose and were experienced as a weird kind of 'headache', like an aura and included a lot of head and neck tension. I think the aura thing was the precursor to zaps.

 

My post CT withdrawal from it gave me a headache that lasted 3 days, felt like someone jammed a hot poker into my head and sent me to the ER finally. I also puked up everything I tried to eat or drink including pain pills. The zaps came later. GI disturbances and the most furious, quick and murderous temper I have ever had (and I know temper!)

 

Completely, utterly nasty piece of work that drug is if you do not come off it properly. My pdoc says she told me. It numbed me up so much that if she did, I never remembered it.


What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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Another vote for Effexor. And from what I have heard, Paxil. To think Dr Ajang gave me a free sample of Cymbalta last fall when I went to him complaining of Effexor w/d. I googled it when I got home and was horrified to see that people were talking about it online like I talk about Effexor!


2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink.

2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ...

Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.
2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures.

:o 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years.

I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body.

2015: I  began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning.

I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral.

And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. 

I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up.

In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body.   :unsure:

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Have no idea how the diff SNRIs differ chemically. You see that reply I made to your post about flipping coin? It is either the way the drugs are formulated (like using a left-twist molecule as opposed to a right-twist one) by the diff manufacturers or something or else it is individual physiology differences. Or crap the drug companies added to their version of a SNRI pill to make it 'cooler'.

 

All a buncha crap IMO. They have to differ chemically or else they are cribbing off each other. And we can't have that, now can we.


What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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westcoast

Going to go look at your reply now.


2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink.

2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ...

Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.
2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures.

:o 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years.

I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body.

2015: I  began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning.

I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral.

And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. 

I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up.

In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body.   :unsure:

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Hello,

 

I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this or not, but I stumbled upon it after searching for a lawyer who might (yeah right, 2 years later) take my case.  Anyways, I found it very interesting, it contains information about cymbalta (an SNRI) that indicates around 80% of patients experience severe withdrawal upon cessation.  

 

I think that currently this lawsuit is being brought before some level of the court system as 25 seperate trials.  So hopefully 25 individuals who have suffered like I have, will get some sort of large financial compensation to having their lives seriously messed up.

 

 

 

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.schmidtlaw.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fcymbalta-lawsuit-mcdowell.pdf&ei=FiNlVZQ8zrWxBNHYg-gJ&usg=AFQjCNGsdiZEWMGiRzwPe1y5uLtv19sVRw&sig2=pUzcwIDUe0RLUq8XSIwb0w

 

As soon as you click on the link, the document will begin to download.  It's pretty interesting.

 

Let me know what you think of the document.

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I was happy when I learned of it. It's rare to see a figure for withdrawal as high as 80%, so that's great news. It's all coming out and seemingly as a greater clip this year. If this thing were to prevail, it could be good for effexor and pristiq cases. The three are close to triplets and all three are known for their horrendous long-term wd syndromes.

 

Journalists who only ask the KOL types if what patients say is true might start asking iconoclasts instead. Media reliance on APA talking points has cost many lives. The clusterF at U of M may bring more attention to decades of psych drug trial fraud, and a lot of it is due to the perseverance of a medical ethics professor at U of M, Carl Elliot.

 

There are still guys who should be in jail. Big name shrink/professors like Keller, Nemeroff, Dunning. Have you read the canon? David Healy, Rob Whitaker, Peter Breggin?

 

(BTW did you know that in the Media posts are Tweeted and Facebooked by an SA bot once a day? SA has accounts on both. If someone clicks through they see what you're seeing now, and like any non-member, can traverse the rest of the site other than the few sections that are hidden. They can't read this special SA grey, though.)


2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink.

2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ...

Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.
2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures.

:o 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years.

I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body.

2015: I  began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning.

I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral.

And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. 

I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up.

In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body.   :unsure:

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I was happy when I learned of it. It's rare to see a figure for withdrawal as high as 80%, so that's great news. It's all coming out and seemingly as a greater clip this year. If this thing were to prevail, it could be good for effexor and pristiq cases. The three are close to triplets and all three are known for their horrendous long-term wd syndromes.

 

Journalists who only ask the KOL types if what patients say is true might start asking iconoclasts instead. Media reliance on APA talking points has cost many lives. The clusterF at U of M may bring more attention to decades of psych drug trial fraud, and a lot of it is due to the perseverance of a medical ethics professor at U of M, Carl Elliot.

 

There are still guys who should be in jail. Big name shrink/professors like Keller, Nemeroff, Dunning. Have you read the canon? David Healy, Rob Whitaker, Peter Breggin?

 

(BTW did you know that in the Media posts are Tweeted and Facebooked by an SA bot once a day? SA has accounts on both. If someone clicks through they see what you're seeing now, and like any non-member, can traverse the rest of the site other than the few sections that are hidden. They can't read this special SA grey, though.)

 

Just ordered Anatomy of an Epidemic.  I have trouble reading because my trigeminal nerve is so damaged from the medications, but I'll get through it little by little.

 

Boy would I like to actually do something to fight back against these bastards.  Unfortunately, it seems like one would need several million dollars in their bank account to hire a lawyer to get any justice in this country.  If someone had, say, 5-10 billion dollars and went to sue all of these people for various things, one could theoretically bankrupt them in the court systems. 

 

I doubt anyone on SA is worth 5 billion dollars, but it would be an effective way to "get back" at your favorite hated psyciatrist:  Hire a team of very expensive lawyers and sue them for like an absurd amount of money.

 

I wouldn't be too surprised if Eli Lilly and GKS got sued at an infrequent but steady rate by very wealthy individuals, and just settled out of court for several million dollars just to end the case and limit any further financial damage from accruing.

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Yes, money. And yes they drug cos pay but it's a bottomless pit. The way to wreck them is to stop taking pills. But people want their statins, which they don't need...

 

also, I found a topic about what I think is the same suit down in the commons, in the Events (etc) fyi

This link was there.

http://jpn.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/39-6-140097.pdf

 

Sucks that you have that pain on top of everything else. I and many others couldn't read for a year or more. Reading had been my best inanimate friend for as long as I can recall. I forgot about it during the drug years. I've resumed, but not reliably. It's to do with concentration. 


2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink.

2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ...

Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.
2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures.

:o 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years.

I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body.

2015: I  began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning.

I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral.

And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. 

I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up.

In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body.   :unsure:

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Yes, money. And yes they drug cos pay but it's a bottomless pit. The way to wreck them is to stop taking pills. But people want their statins, which they don't need...

 

also, I found a topic about what I think is the same suit down in the commons, in the Events (etc) fyi

This link was there.

http://jpn.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/39-6-140097.pdf

 

Sucks that you have that pain on top of everything else. I and many others couldn't read for a year or more. Reading had been my best inanimate friend for as long as I can recall. I forgot about it during the drug years. I've resumed, but not reliably. It's to do with concentration. 

 

Interesting article, my childhood was far from ideal (was placed on adderall at the age of 8, and then it caused me to have tourrettes like symptoms, so the horrible neurologist prescribed me paxil at the age of like 12 for like 2 years, and then zoloft).  I seem to have been spared the worst withdrawals, but I'm pretty sure that the entirety of my life was affected by that horrible medication.  Probably shouldn't have ever touched the stuff again.  Whoops, guess that's what I get for trusting doctors.  Never again.

 

Glad to hear that I wasn't the only one who couldn't read!   It's been a real struggle for me too.  Hopefully in another year I'll be able to enjoy reading and be in as good of shape as you seem to be in.

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FREE LEGAL HELP

 

Studies show that between 50% and 78% of Cymbalta users experience antidepressant withdrawal symptoms after discontinuing the drug. Yet the drug label misleadingly states that Cymbalta withdrawal symptoms occur in only 1% to 2% of cases.

These findings have resulted in nearly three dozen Cymbalta lawsuits and a Cymbalta class action lawsuit against Eli Lilly and Co. for allegedly misleading consumers about the risk and severity of Cymbalta withdrawal side effects.

If you attempted to stop taking Cymbalta and suffered withdrawal symptoms such as brain “zaps” (electric-like sensations in the body and brain), nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, vertigo, dizziness, hot and cold flashes, insomnia, nightmares or more, you may have a legal claim.

Join a Free Cymbalta Class Action Lawsuit Investigation

If you qualify, an attorney will contact you to discuss the details of your potential case at no charge to you. Due to the high volume of interest in filing a Cymbalta withdrawal lawsuit it may take 7 – 14 business days to receive a response from the attorneys handling these submissions. Please be patient. The law firm responsible for this investigation is reviewing every single submission that comes in.

 

Go to:

http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/40648-cymbalta-withdrawal-side-effects-class-action-lawsuit-investigation/


1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg

2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg

Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta

Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months.

July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months.

Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg.

October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive.

March 2016 , 21mg

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Right o, so it's a lawyer advert trying to make a buck on the back of other people's perceived misery.

Most of the people will not have any legal claim at all as none of it can be proven. Someone is always trying to blame someone else for their bad luck.

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Please read the post purplesky . . . this is a free service.

 

Your posts around the site indicate that you're generally very cynical - could you start an introduction thread for yourself please?

 

Fresh


1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg

2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg

Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta

Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months.

July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months.

Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg.

October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive.

March 2016 , 21mg

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Fresh, very few things in life are free. People generally don't offer things for free, especially lawyers, and if they do, it's usually a scam. People are just too naive and easily led.

 

This bunch of shysters are only interested in lining their own pockets. Anyone registering for this will probably receive a "free" initial discussion, followed by a letter stating they may have a claim but a fee is payable. The final outcome is that you've lost the case due to no evidence, and you've also lost your money.

 

For every person who states they had life changing problems coming off this drug, there will be someone else who says it was a great drug with no major problems withdrawing.

 

If you hate drug companies, you should hate lawyers even more. They both bat for the same side, as do politicians and bankers.

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Purplesky you are upsetting a lot of members here who have been seriously harmed by psychiatry and drugs. What is your purpose here? 


**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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i figure i should add that litigation motivated by personal greed is no less effective against pharmaceutical companies (or in benefit of victims) than litigation motivated by social justice.  maybe the shysters wont make the government eat a subpoena like the activists that do jailtime, but successful remuneration (to whatever degree) has been achieved through suits like this---and moneygrubbers are more likely to settle for higher fines than many activism groups that might be more interested in the figurative significance of a win or striking a blow at all, given that no fines are sufficient to alter the ethics or financial security of big pharma.  its always good to be skeptical about open-entry programs and organizations, but saying lawyers bat on the same side as politicians and bankers sort of goes without saying.  all profit-seeking entities engage in activities for the purpose of profit, even if there are constructive or destructive happenings along the way.  our court system exists in large part to promote commerce.

 

lawyer groups, for the most part, are headhunter mercenaries.  they arent intrinsically pro- or anti-pharma/gov/whatever, and if mercenaries think its profitable to wage war in a battle we are fighting, i think that tolerating it so long as it doesnt conflict with our agenda isnt the worst thing one could do.  even the free press alone, however suspicious people may be of the ideas or information provided, already goes towards counteracting the stranglehold big pharma tends to have on the educational outlets like textbooks and television.  (television being an educational outlet for the everyman, that is.)

 

that particular link is not to specific lawyers or lawsuits, but rather a network that seems to connect individuals with lawyers and ongoing suits that meet whatever criteria you search for, and lawyers participate by paying in order to appear in their listings.  so, the degree of effectiveness and trustworthiness can vary, and i dont trust them with my name/address, but im considering submitting some information.  reviews on other sites reflect that some users have received many (usually rather small) payments for various class action suits that they personally qualified for; you can sign up to be emailed about all suits that you qualify for.


from 2005-2012, i spent 7 years taking 17 different psychotropic medications covering several classes.  i would be taking 3-7 medications at a time, and 6 out of the 17 medications listed below were maxed or overmaxed in clinical dosage before i moved on to trying the next unhelpful cocktail.
 
antidepressants (SSRIs, SNRIs, NDRIs, tetracyclics): zoloft, wellbutrin, effexor, lexapro, prozac, cymbalta, remeron
antipsychotics (atypical): abilify, zyprexa, risperdal, geodon
sleep aids (benzos, off-label antidepressants & antipsychotics, hypnotics): seroquel, temazepam, trazodone, ambien
anxiolytics: buspar
anticonvulsants: topamax
 
i tapered off all psychotropics from late 2011 through early 2013, one by one.  since quitting, ive been cycling through severe, disabling withdrawal symptoms spanning the gamut of the serious, less serious, and rather worrisome side effects of these assorted medications.  previous cross-tapering and medication or dosage changes had also caused undiagnosed withdrawal symptoms.
 
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I looked into one of these once the company had to put up x number of dollars everyone injured got like 700 bucks... if the lawyers could not find enough people to give the money to at a certain time the money reverted back to pharma I would not doubt these are pharma lawyers setting this whole thing up as the payout is so low as to be insulting.  

Best to find your own lawyer and talk to him face to face too bad we don't have the experience of any who have successfully sued to tell you how to go about it as they all have gag orders and can't tell you. 

Still I think these sort of organizations are sometimes suspect... given the low payouts especially I think the one I looked at was for a phych drug that made people diabetics...700 bucks for a life time of needles and complications of that disease including shorter life quality of life to me is highly suspect. 

 

As for lawyers making money off peoples suffering pharma does that every day and I do not mean in curing suffering tho they do that too... they cause a lot of suffering and they know ahead of time what they are doing will damage ... they still do it. They may be cut out of the same cloth but lawyers are coming in after the fact they are not all bad and not causing the damage. 


WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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the nature of class-action suits is generally that they are a 'significant' lump sum for the company paying out, as opposed to being calculated from the number of victims participating as some sort of meaningful compensation.  they are meant as deterrents and also a way to protect companies from individualized litigation, since you cant sue personally if you participated in a class action law suit for the same thing, generally.  the deterring power is so minor that the negative press is a bigger worry than the slight bit of shaved off profit, so the whole arrangement generally works in their favor given the protection they gain.

 

if the suit is criminal instead of civil, companies can be slapped with more significant fines for actual compensation or continuing remuneration or alleviation, and can have their business practices changed through forced oversight or other policy changes.  but, i know nothing about the legal system, so maybe im just talking out my ass, and i apologize if some of this is wrong or misleading; distinctions are hard to remember in such a state.

 

i did submit my info for the cymbalta thing, but the site has no open class action suits on that drug, and also no past ones, at least listed anywhere in the current/past archives.  lawyers are more about opportunism than problem-generation, you are right.  maybe like saying arms salesmen are less culpable than the governments waging war, or even triggerman soldiers, but theres always nuance to be found, i feel like.


from 2005-2012, i spent 7 years taking 17 different psychotropic medications covering several classes.  i would be taking 3-7 medications at a time, and 6 out of the 17 medications listed below were maxed or overmaxed in clinical dosage before i moved on to trying the next unhelpful cocktail.
 
antidepressants (SSRIs, SNRIs, NDRIs, tetracyclics): zoloft, wellbutrin, effexor, lexapro, prozac, cymbalta, remeron
antipsychotics (atypical): abilify, zyprexa, risperdal, geodon
sleep aids (benzos, off-label antidepressants & antipsychotics, hypnotics): seroquel, temazepam, trazodone, ambien
anxiolytics: buspar
anticonvulsants: topamax
 
i tapered off all psychotropics from late 2011 through early 2013, one by one.  since quitting, ive been cycling through severe, disabling withdrawal symptoms spanning the gamut of the serious, less serious, and rather worrisome side effects of these assorted medications.  previous cross-tapering and medication or dosage changes had also caused undiagnosed withdrawal symptoms.
 
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the nature of class-action suits is generally that they are a 'significant' lump sum for the company paying out, as opposed to being calculated from the number of victims participating as some sort of meaningful compensation.  they are meant as deterrents and also a way to protect companies from individualized litigation, since you cant sue personally if you participated in a class action law suit for the same thing, generally.  the deterring power is so minor that the negative press is a bigger worry than the slight bit of shaved off profit, so the whole arrangement generally works in their favor given the protection they gain.

 

if the suit is criminal instead of civil, companies can be slapped with more significant fines for actual compensation or continuing remuneration or alleviation, and can have their business practices changed through forced oversight or other policy changes.  but, i know nothing about the legal system, so maybe im just talking out my ass, and i apologize if some of this is wrong or misleading; distinctions are hard to remember in such a state.

 

i did submit my info for the cymbalta thing, but the site has no open class action suits on that drug, and also no past ones, at least listed anywhere in the current/past archives.  lawyers are more about opportunism than problem-generation, you are right.  maybe like saying arms salesmen are less culpable than the governments waging war, or even triggerman soldiers, but theres always nuance to be found, i feel like.

"a class action law suit for the same thing, generally.  the deterring power is so minor that the negative press is a bigger worry than the slight bit of shaved off profit, so the whole arrangement generally works in their favor given the protection they gain."

 

Like I said a good thing for pharma lawyers who are on payroll they may as well be doing something to protect they company bet they are. 


WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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InvisibleUnless ,  can you provide details of "the cymbalta thing" ... which site did you provide info, to , when did you do that?

 

There is no such thing , so far as i'm aware , of a class action criminal lawsuit.

A criminal suit is where the police charge an individual/company for a breach of legal behaviour.

 

A class action suit is a civil matter where a group of individuals pursue the action.


1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg

2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg

Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta

Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months.

July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months.

Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg.

October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive.

March 2016 , 21mg

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i clicked on the link you posted in starting this thread.  it just asked for general information pertaining to my personal identification and usage of cymbalta, and said it would be under lawyer review.  either they are putting together a class action if enough people apply or they are just trying to find cases to sell individualistically if lawyers like the terms (winnability---which i never figured i had, because i was on so many different medications).

 

you are correct, i think---criminal suits dont necessarily distinguish regarding plaintiffs by number, and are usually encompassing as many victims or evidences as would provide a sound enough case towards mandating reform.  personal injury lawsuits, which can be class action or individual, are both apparently civil.  i did not mean to imply anything about the existence of class action criminal lawsuits, as i was speaking of both individual and group suits in these posts.  i definitely need to read more into all this when i have the brain clarity, it seems relevant to know, even if i have no plans to pursue anything myself.


from 2005-2012, i spent 7 years taking 17 different psychotropic medications covering several classes.  i would be taking 3-7 medications at a time, and 6 out of the 17 medications listed below were maxed or overmaxed in clinical dosage before i moved on to trying the next unhelpful cocktail.
 
antidepressants (SSRIs, SNRIs, NDRIs, tetracyclics): zoloft, wellbutrin, effexor, lexapro, prozac, cymbalta, remeron
antipsychotics (atypical): abilify, zyprexa, risperdal, geodon
sleep aids (benzos, off-label antidepressants & antipsychotics, hypnotics): seroquel, temazepam, trazodone, ambien
anxiolytics: buspar
anticonvulsants: topamax
 
i tapered off all psychotropics from late 2011 through early 2013, one by one.  since quitting, ive been cycling through severe, disabling withdrawal symptoms spanning the gamut of the serious, less serious, and rather worrisome side effects of these assorted medications.  previous cross-tapering and medication or dosage changes had also caused undiagnosed withdrawal symptoms.
 
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Loathe as I am to admit it - I am a lawyer (although this is not my area of practice). I would be wary of sites like these and always check if they are acting within their authority by calling the relevant legal registration body in the particular country/state. I believe it is a US site so, if legit, would only apply to US members. Some law firms do specialise in class actions, which is quite a cost effective way of litigating. It is a very rare occurance in Australia. Otherwise it can tend to be prohibitively expensive. Another option is a 'no win no fee' arrangement, where you are charged an uplift if your case is successful.

 

Fresh, if you would like to talk to a lawyer, you can call your local Law Society who will carry a list of lawyers. Otherwise, most states have free advice sessions run by local pro bono lawyers.

 

My own view? I'm angry but I won't follow it up through legal means. I think acceptance and forgiveness is the path to my own recovery. Protracted court battles are usually hugely stressful and, generally, a hiding to nothing. I believe there will be a day when more information surfaces and the drug companies will be held accountable, but that isn't my responsibility. That said, I didn't lose my livlihood over all of this.


March 2003 took two sartroline tablets after a traumatic incident and had a reaction so stopped.  I am not sure now whether what I had for the next 18 months was WD after the reaction or the emotional fallout from the traumatic event.  Some of it was very similar to WD in hindsight.  

 

February 2014 - Took five pristiq (50mg) tablets and three Ativan and had a severe reaction.
Extreme withdrawal symptoms for three weeks compounded by visit to naturopath -

One week later took 900mg St John's Wort x 3 daily for six weeks - more negative effects and suspected serotonin syndrome - before tapering over three weeks. Last tablet late May 2014.

Waves and windows cycle of recovery with longer windows and manageable waves.

May 2015 - already in a mild wave, following a usual pattern, I took clarithromicin and amoxicillin for two weeks for a sinus infection which I also seem to have had quite a reaction to.

 

February 2016 - Feeling much better.  I still have waves and windows but they are manageable.  I'm largely enjoying life again.

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enter someone who knows what theyre talking about.  thanks a lot for elucidating.

 

this place is, fundamentally, a social networking site.  interested lawyers can advertise for or pick up cases, and the website and its creators are merely facilitators of information exchange.  im not particularly interested in dragging out some personal litigation, but if my medical information can be used towards creating a class action suit, i dont really object.  the cymbalta thing is aggregating information for a potential case, it seems like...whether or not particular persons have attached themselves to the cause is not really stated but i have no real stake in it proceeding since the payout would probably be low and i am a poor example having been on so many different medications.

 

interesting perspective, on recovery.  probably considered very 'un-american', but im not exactly a profit-mongerer myself.


from 2005-2012, i spent 7 years taking 17 different psychotropic medications covering several classes.  i would be taking 3-7 medications at a time, and 6 out of the 17 medications listed below were maxed or overmaxed in clinical dosage before i moved on to trying the next unhelpful cocktail.
 
antidepressants (SSRIs, SNRIs, NDRIs, tetracyclics): zoloft, wellbutrin, effexor, lexapro, prozac, cymbalta, remeron
antipsychotics (atypical): abilify, zyprexa, risperdal, geodon
sleep aids (benzos, off-label antidepressants & antipsychotics, hypnotics): seroquel, temazepam, trazodone, ambien
anxiolytics: buspar
anticonvulsants: topamax
 
i tapered off all psychotropics from late 2011 through early 2013, one by one.  since quitting, ive been cycling through severe, disabling withdrawal symptoms spanning the gamut of the serious, less serious, and rather worrisome side effects of these assorted medications.  previous cross-tapering and medication or dosage changes had also caused undiagnosed withdrawal symptoms.
 
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