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Marta

Hi all! Please sorry if my English is not perfect but it's not my mothertongue.

 

My story is short:

-"normal" (nobody is normal) life until 2011

-developed very painful abdominal pain, did all medical exams nothing came off....(now think it was a somatization...last year of university stress, end of long relation, new relation, no job opportunities)

-06/2012 really tired of pain, my gp decided to gave me cipralex 10mg

-I started gently, no side effects, pain slowly disappeared....but I started to gain weight +8kg, NO libido, NO intense feelings

-02/2015 started to stop it one drop per week, around 01/04/2015 free

-end of April, first days of May

sudden, huge, creepy anxiety(Never had it before)

heart punds super fast

suicide thoughts

blurry vision

sounds in brain

high sensitivity to low sounds

zero appetite

insomnia(Never had it before)

-tried to resist until end of May, my gp said to take it again, in 5 days I was again in 10mg and things got worse

all previous symtomps plus

****ing burning skin sensation (I'm going mad)

can't stop to move legs (creepy)

zero sensitivity "over there"

 

----that's my present condition, tomorrow I'll ask to stop these horrible meds, why the hell, why the hell I have accepted then, nobody told my about these effects. I'm sacred to death it will last FOREVER, I'm so terrified by the words forever chronic permanent... :(  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(

 

my questions are:

is it possible to develope these symptoms after 2-3 weeks quitting?

have you ever had burning skin sensation?

will these things lasts forever?  :(

 

Thanks to all, who will reads and who will answer, I'll also try to answer others!

Sincere hugs,

M.

 

 

 

 

 

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clearday

Welcome -

 

You are going through "tardive (delayed) onset SSRI withdrawal", a very common occurrence with SSRI medications such as cipralex (lexapro).

 

When I stopped Prozac years ago, it took four months for symptoms to hit me, and just like you, they hit me strong. Many same symptoms as you.

 

I also went through the same thing with Lexapro.

 

Since you stopped your medications only 3 weeks ago, a moderator may suggest that you go back on a low dose of cipralex to reduce your withdrawal symptoms.

 

Most modern doctors don't warn us ahead of time that these medications do this to people because they don't understand how these medications work. They have been trained to think that your withdrawal symptoms are your "anxiety" coming back. But it's obvious that these symptoms are signs of withdrawal from these powerful drugs, since the symptoms are so severe, new, and strange.  And we all go through similar symptoms. Many doctors do understand "protracted SSRI withdrawal", many studies and books are published about it by doctors. 

 

You will heal from these symptoms, but it will take awhile. 

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mammaP

Hi Marta, welcome to SA. Your English is fine, better than some native English!  How long have you been taking 10mg?  Were you on 10mg before stopping? 

Are you taking anything else, even supplements or over the counter drugs from the pharmacy?  

 

Often when people have been off the drug for a while they become sensitive to it and react to the dose they were on before. We usually recommend a very low dose to start with, 1mg, to see how it goes. Some people feel better and stay on the tiny dose for a while to stabilise, others have to increase the dose a little.And some are unable to tolerate the drug at all after quitting but they are usually ones who have been off for longer.  

10mg is obviously too high for you and you. If it has only been a few days you may be able to decrease the dose so you are not getting the same side effects. When you have stabilised you will be able to start a slow taper to get off the tiny dose.. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/406-tapering-off-lexapro-escitalopram/

 

It will help us if you list the doses and taper in your signature for us. 

 

Here is the link about reinstating to stop withdrawal symptoms.http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/

 

Many people find that fish oil and magnesium help with withdrawal symptoms.

 http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1300-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

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Marta

Thanks for the answers....really means a lot for me to hear about you! 
 
Yes, nobody (doctors) ever told me that after many weeks out of drugs these horrible effects happen  (althought I had dismiss it properly)... I have discovered ALL in the last 1-2 weeks  :(
also if many many if us have these intense anxiety, breakdown, physical strange symptoms after quitting... it's unlikely that ALL of us have "normal" anxiety back ....
 
Please if someone else'd like to say me something I'll be very thankful! 
 

to mammaP
I took 10mg for about 2yrs half
Before stopping I was 10-8mg (because I had drops I usually take 1-2 drops less)

Now I'm again on 10mg but the gp told me to go in 10mg in 5 days which I think it's too fast, so my symptoms are really bad -_- 

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mammaP

You seem to be reacting to the dose, maybe try 5mg and see if that helps, it may take a few days to feel an improvement. 

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LucaDiProspero

I can't understand how I managed to go on with 50mg-40mg cipralex for nearly 4 years when I see many cases here like you marta (issues with only 10mg). I guess I'm paying for it now with protracted (maybe permanent) emotional anesthesia. You will recover soon marta your dosage was not so high

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clearday

Please if someone else'd like to say me something I'll be very thankful!  

 

If you'd like to get more feedback, It helps to read some other recent threads in this section, and respond to people you can relate to, on their threads. 

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Martina23

Hi Marta,

 

I love Italy, especially Lignano. We went there always for holiday.

 

I will be also without meds within one month, if you want we can support each other if the withdrawal is too intense!

 

Martina

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Skylarblue75

Hi Marta, thank you for stopping by my thread. I'm so sorry your going through this, it's absolutely horrible. Welcome to the forum we're all here to support each other. Big hugs!

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Marta

QUESTION: in your experience, if you are free if drugs, then you have a BAD w/d or something else and you decide (the doctor decide) to put you again on meds.....do the symptoms fade immediatly with the meds or it takes time also for this???

Because I'm one week again in 10mg Cipralex but I still feel...rubbish! :(

Thx.

Marta

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Fresh

It takes 4 days  to get to a steady state in your bloodstream  marta ,  and symptoms tend to reside over a few weeks rather

than stopping abruptly.

 

Have you noticed any improvements since you reinstated?

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Marta

hi, thank you so much for the answer....improvments? :( basically no...anxiety and insomnia still here with full force....(and I stress I never suffered for

them before cipralex). Poor me...let's see next week. I am so scared it's not going to work again!

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clearday

 

 I'm one week again in 10mg Cipralex but I still feel...rubbish! :(

 

Consider what Moderator MammaP said above, that 10 mg may be too high of a dose for you:

 

Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:04 PM

You seem to be reacting to the dose, maybe try 5mg and see if that helps, it may take a few days to feel an improvement. 

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Marta

Obviously my GP is on holiday :( ...before he said nope, take 10mg...it's a relapse!!! (a relapse of what ...I never had this...after few weeks quitting meds...already?? He will never admit that MAYBE its a w/d)

 

BTW I'll see next days I 'll reduce the drops......I'm so unlucky! :unsure:

 

THX again for the interest.

Hugs!

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Altostrata

Hello, Marta. Very few doctors recognize withdrawal syndrome. They almost always say it's "relapse."

 

You may be more comfortable with 5mg.

 

This topic explains how to take a small amount of Cipralex Tips for tapering off Lexapro (escitalopram)

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LucaDiProspero

I can't understand you guys are on 5-10mg of cipralex. I was on 50mg of cipralex...so my damage is permanent, I can't believe it ...

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Marta

:( but I've listened that the max dosage is 20mg...taking more has just negative effects. Who the hell did you advise to take 50mg??

really, are you not seeing any improvement? Maybe as they say here, it will take a looot of time....

Oh I see you're from north Italy (me too) ....I think doctors here are the worst, really close minded!!

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LucaDiProspero

marta, the fun thing is doc gave me cipralex not for depression but for the chronic fatigue syndrome. Ye, where I live doctors are simply drugs dealers, I suppose they are very close to big pharma. hey, more prescriptions, more money...

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Martina23

That is terrible Luca. But even in this case you will heal, it takes only apparently a lot of time.

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LucaDiProspero

Thanks Martina, I don't want anything, only my old self back. If I have my soul back all will be different.

As someone said "You never know the value of what you have until you lose it".

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Marta

I think the same! If only ..... back in that day I had refused to take it and throw it out of thr window...but I was told it was secure and the "best" SSRI, no addtcive! :(  what a lie!!! Yes, I know of you have chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia they give you antidepressant.....so not only your body, also your mind will hurt. In addiction to all my horrible symptoms I also feel different from the old me....but this is quite ok, people change for many reasons not only ssri....I just want a little stability and to stop feel terrible pain and anxiety everyday :( :( :(

 

 

Martina It's nice to hear that you have hope that slowly we can exit from this hell......I can't see the light now....

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Altostrata

Marta, did you see this:

Hello, Marta. Very few doctors recognize withdrawal syndrome. They almost always say it's "relapse."

 

You may be more comfortable with 5mg.

 

This topic explains how to take a small amount of Cipralex Tips for tapering off Lexapro (escitalopram)

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Marta

Yes....I've lowered from 10 to 8 then I'll go to 5 mg....

thank you again!!! :wub:

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Marta

Small update, bittersweet: burning skin sensation has reduced a lot, anxierty only in the morning is a littke bit lower, I was able to cry few minutes (this was the most important thing for me because I felt a total zombie) , insomnia not-so-bad except early morning, libido is totally absent.....BUT maybe all the stress for this conditions plus the stress for work and university has triggered again abdominal pain, not so strong but it's there. Periods periods....these weeks and months will be only periods...i try to focus on the fact that it doesn't mean that all my life will be horrible!

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Theon

Hello Marta,

 

I feel sorry for your withdrawal and I really hope it gets better.

 

I feel related to your story because I started fluoxetine also for anxiety triggered by my stressful engineering degree at university, in my case I developed headaches that I believed were from an organic cause, I even believed I had brain cancer (I have always been quite hypochondriac). And when these headaches turned out to be psychosomatic the fluoxetine prescription came within minutes.

 

This system leads us to believe very quickly that there is something wrong with us that needs to be treated... when the only wrong thing here is the system.

 

I wish you all the best and a not-so-bad withdrawal.

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Altostrata

It will take at least 4 days for any dosage change to fully take effect.

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Marta

Small update 2:

As you know I have reintalled cipralex low dosage.... After weeks of hell I had about one good week ^_^ which is incredible. But yes, one morning anxiety and oppression returned    :unsure:  ....hope they will not last so long...is it true that also when you take med again after bad w/d it goes with windows and waves? Cheers to you all!!!!!! :wub:

 

 



This system leads us to believe very quickly that there is something wrong with us that needs to be treated... when the only wrong thing here is the system.

Oh Theon you are SO right!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

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Altostrata

How much Cipralex are you taking now? Be sure to take it at the same time each day.

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Marta

Hi, thanks for the answer.

 

8mg each morning....(the GP insists a lot to take higer dosage,but I said no). I don't know if I'm going to make things worse taking again 5mg. I just wait another moonth to go slowly at 5mg and stay there...

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Altostrata

How are you feeling taking 8mg?

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Marta

Not so good, to be honest. I had just few "normal days", the rest I have high anxiety, a constant sense of oppression in my chest, agitaion and fear. I try to do my best to go to work, study (which is really very hard because concentrate is a challenge) and try to have a social life.....I feel very tired because trying to ignore the pain requires a lot of energy. And of course I wake up early in the morning with anxiety.

 

It's about a month that I have reinsert cipralex ....my gp always suggest me to increase the dosage, really I don't know if I have to trust him. In addiction when I have reinserted he said to add 2mg a day, which maybe was too much fast for restart. I know that antidepressants could need a lot of time to work...but how long I have to wait for a stabilization? 1million dollar question!

 

Sincere thanks for reading my "story".

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Theon

Hello Marta,

 

At the begining of this year, when I started my second round of prozac, the first 2/3 months or so were horrible, the anxiety got worse than before reinstating, it was like my organism didn't accept the prozac anymore, at that moment I had no clue why I was worse, my doctor told me that if I didn't stabilized in a bit of time, he would put me on another ad. Eventually I stabilized on April, but then I realized the side effects (zero libido and emotional flatness) and decided to quit, becoming anti-psychiatricmeds and find other ways to fight my anxiety.

 

I think you may be experiencing something similar, but I think you will stabilize in a bit, as I finally did.

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Marta

Hi Theon,

thank for your answer, it gives me a little grain of hope. I'm still not sure for the dosage, but at least I hope in a future stabilization. I experience zero libido too, also a repulsion for intimancy, not only an indifference. Emotional flatness is a little bit decreased at least ... I was totally unable to cry but after weeks reading a sad article I was able to shed a small (but significant) tear.

This anxiety is killing me...my chest is like a stone. What's makes me angry is that before ADs, ok I was nervous, hasty and pessimistic BUT I never had this kind of constant, heavy fear... :wacko:

 

Maybe, too much serotonine will increase anxiety? ....of course I don't trust the layabout imbalance theory, but this damned serotonin is for sure doing something before (hopefully) stabilization. Thank you for the answer again! <3

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Marta

Small update 3:

(About one month half after the r/i of cipralex)

 

 

GOOD:

I'm better than one month ago ^_^  Pure terror and sadness are less strong and if I try to keep myself busy they're not so intrusive.

I weak up early in the morning but around 6 or 7a.m no more 3 or 4 a.m. And I don't wake up in horror and anguish as before.

 

BAD:

I still have chest problems, heart pounding and a sense of oppression in it... :( and anxiety is still here.

Concentration and study issues are very challenging.

and...my libido is on Pluto  <_< (no surprise)

 

 

So I really hope I'm on the road of stabilization.

 

How long do you think is better to wait when I'll feel even more stable?

 

Cheers to you all :wub:

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AliG

 Hey Marta, Hang in  there.  I don't know what to say.  I'm hoping for the best . :)

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