simack: Trying to taper off antipsychotic's (saphris/zyprexa).

[ChessieCat]

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[simack]

12 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

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Thanks Chessie, that's greatly appreciated.  

[simack]

.Well the branded zyprexa didn't work, I still only managed 2 hours last night. So I'm guessing  I can rule out a defective batch now or is it still possible that the change was affecting my sleep also?

[ChessieCat]

If it was only one or two times you have taken the brand that I don't think you can discount that just yet.  It takes about 4 days for a dose to get to full level in the blood and a bit longer for it to register in the brain.  So if it hasn't been long, the body/brain still has the old and adjusting to the new.

 

 

[simack]

Sorry to keep posting but my sleep is still terrible and I'm due back at work tomorrow,  I was just wondering if it's still possible to be in tolerance withdrawal if I've increased my doses quite a bit and still see no improvement?

[ChessieCat]

On 1/11/2022 at 11:22 AM, simack said:

I need to return to work, stressing greatly about losing my job

 

There is a possibility that the worrying/stress is causing/adding to the insomnia.

[hayduke]

Sure, it's common to have sleepless nights over these sorts of stresses regardless of mental health issues or not.  A good psychologist should be able to help you navigate these situations better.  Given your more challenging circumstances with prescriptions etc, a trauma informed clinical psychologist may be able to facilitate deeper healing.

 

 

[simack]

Just dropping in for a quick update, my sleep was doing ok for a while after a slight increase. I was managing about 5 to 6 hours of very broken sleep.. Enough to survive on. However two nights ago I had to refill my zyprexa script and BAM zero sleep for the past two nights. I don't get it, it's from the exact same batch as the last two..I did notice however that the expiry date on this batch is April 2022 so it will expire before I finish the packet. I brought this up with the pharmacy and the pharmacist just said it's fine, they have at least a 3 month usability past expiration.. I'm not so sure however, strange my insomnia just came back since starting this batch. Praying I can get at least 3 hrs sleep tonight because I'm back on top of a roof tomorrow...

 

[hayduke]

@simack bummer about your sleep, hope it improves soon.

 

I got into the habit of starting the new box with some left over from the old box to revert to - at least then you can see if you notice the difference in an A/B test.

 

The further into your taper you get, the more of a "stash" you can build up.  And throw out with enormous satisfaction after reaching zero - but it's handy to have a range of tablets on hand for these moments, and prepare if you do have to change brands etc.  

 

Once I made a suspension from a 10mg tablet of the same make as the 2.5mg tablets I'd been using.  You would think in 4x the volume you would have the same result - but I felt so woozy from it that I just threw out all the 10mg tabs as obviously false economy at that point.  I really do wonder what the difference was.