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Colonial

I'm wondering if anyone else has or had experienced worsing withdrawal symptoms when switching from Paxil CR and Liquid SOLELY to the Liquid Suspension? I have been tapering slowing Since January by the following:

 

(1 Pill = 12.5 CR)

 

Starting dose of 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG OF CR

 

Jan 21st: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks)

2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks)

2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week)

3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks)

3/18 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks)

4/1 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks)

4/14 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks)

4/29 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days)

5/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days)

5/24 12 mgs liquid (8 days)

6/1 11mg lq (12 days)

6/13 10 mg lq until today 7/10

 

I have a feeling that the liquid isnt nearly as....either effective or has as long a HALF LIFE as the company would have me believe. When I first started the taper I was taking the 1 pill and taking all the liquid at 9 pm at NIGHT. Within 16 hours of the night dose I was having bad symptoms until I took the next dose. This went on for a week. I then experimented by switching the timing of the liquid to the morning at 9 am. Withing 2 days the withdrawal syptoms had switched from the evening to the morning! What clearly was happening, was the liquid was NOT staying in my system anywhere near as long as the CR. After a week of suffering the withdrawl symptoms at the new time, my doctor suggested taking half the liquid dose every 12 hours, since it obviously had a SHORTER Half life than the CR Pill, since my syptoms corresponded to ALMOST EXACTLY 16 hours after the last Liquid dose. With 3 days of splitting the daily dose into  every 12 hours the symptoms had mostly resolved. Everything was going ok (not perfect but much better than the horrible symptoms when only taking the liquid once daily) UNTIL I recently finally got below the level of the pill and am ONLY on the liquid. Since I switched to the liquid ONLY I have been taking it every 8 hours -or 3 times a day, but the worsening symptoms have returned. Not as bad as when I was only taking it every 12 hours, but worse when I still had the CR for the majority of the dose.

 

I THINK THIS LIQUID IS CRAP. I've only dropped 2.5 mg's in almost 8 weeks and I'm having WORSE symptoms than when I was dropping a 1mg every 2 weeks no problem. (Again with the CR pill as most of my dose. )

 

Any ideas? I mean, the fact that I had horrible symptoms correspnding to 16 hours AFTER the liquid dose, regardless whether I was taking it at 9am or 9pm, tells me it has to have a much shorter half life than they are saying, expecially since once I started taking the liquid 5mg ever 12 hours instead of 10 all at once things cleared up within 48 hours. And now that all I have is the liquid, I'm worse even though I'm dropping at only half the speed of when I still had atleast 12.5 CR. And! I'm taking it EVERY 8 hours: 3 mg AM, 3 mg Afternoon, 4 MG Night.  I notice the electrical shocks in my head close to the time I am scheduled for the next dose, as if it's only in my system about 6 hours at a time.

 

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Altostrata

Welcome, Colonial.
 
Some people do have difficulty switching to the liquid. But looking at your tapering schedule, my guess is your symptoms are from tapering too fast.
 
We recommend decreases about every month, and many people need to slow down when they get to low dosages, as you have. In fact, you've sped up your taper since you got down to 12.5mg.
 
What are your current symptoms?
 
See

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

Why taper? Paper demonstrates importance of gradual change in plasma concentration

 

What is withdrawal syndrome?

Tips for tapering off Paxil (paroxetine)

 

I've moved this topic to the Introductions forum, as your Intro topic, so you don't need to recount your recent history again. Please ask question about your taper and put updates in this topic as a record of your journey.

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Colonial

Thank you for your quick reply!

 

Current symptoms: electrical shocks in head, anxiety, difficulty thinking- strange thoughts.

 

I had originally thought the problem may have been that I had hit a "plateu level" that I had read about.  My lowering of dosages had increased but the level of the mg drop had also decreased.  Such as I only dropped from 12.5 to 12, instead of 1 or 2 mg's every 2 weeks.  The fact that I had the symptoms revolving around the "once" daily liquid dose at the beginning of the year suggests to me that, as you say, the change to the liquid is a part of it but I'm glad to see that the drop should be closer to 10% of the last dose, not of the original.

 

Hopefully, now than I have been on this dose now since 6/13, things should soon level out, yes? And then if I will discuss with the doctor the recommendations on drop the dose closer to either every 30 days.  Thank you! 

 

Also, I've been on the 25 mg CR for about 20, 22 years.  Does that play a part in the withdrawal schedule?  The length of treatment?

 

 

Thanks

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Altostrata

Being on Paxil for decades means you should be even more cautious about decreases at low levels.

 

See Micro-taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases

 

Have the zaps etc. changed at all since 6/13?

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Colonial

Thank you for the new link.  The bad morning anxiety has decreased but the zaps have remained about the same the past 17 days, as well as the difficulty thinking - strange thoughts which happen in the 'lull' of my afternoon. However, the zaps had only 'restarted" after my last drop on 6/13.  Been having them again the last 17 days. Thanks!  :)

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Hi Colonial. I just sent you a lengthy message, but somehow it didn't go through and it got lost.

 

Anyway, I'm a neighbor...I'm from NYC. Hang in there. It sounds like you definitely tapered too fast. Just listen to Alto. She definitely knows her stuff! Once your body catches up to the current dosage, you'll feel much better. Just give it some time, then you can resume your taper.

 

I, too, was on AD for 20 years. Every time i tried going off it I'd get bad anxiety, brain zaps, etc. Dr kept telling me i will need to be on it for life! It was withdrawal all along!!!

 

Also, recently, (April) i switched from paxil cr to liquid prozac (didn't work, had bad reaction), to liquid paxil. It's around 6 weeks now and I'm just starting to feel better. I will probably wait another 2 or 3 months before i start a taper.

 

Anyway, hang in there. You'll be ok. Listen to Alto, try to stay calm and wait out the symptoms before you start tapering again, and you'll be back on track. Don't worry, you're going to be ok.

 

Hugs,

Ladybug99

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Colonial

THANK YOU SO..SO..MUCH, MISS LADY BUG!  :P

 

YOU WROTE;  Also, recently, (April) i switched from paxil cr to liquid prozac (didn't work, had bad reaction), to liquid paxil. It's around 6 weeks now and I'm just starting to feel better. I will probably wait another 2 or 3 months before i start a taper."

 

Wow! That confirms my suspicions that the recent change over to all Liquid had something to do with it, especially considering what happened with me when I originally was taking all the liquid once a day, have bad symptoms, which subsided only after splitting the doses up.

 

As you saw from my taper schedule. Since atleast half my dose (in the beginning) was still in the CR form, I think that's what kept me from too, too bad a reaction at first, but I'm feeling it now alright!

 

Hopefully, since I have been on this level for...what? Exactly 28 days now?  Hopefully it should lighten up within the next week or 10 days and then i'm just gonna sit at this level for a bit.  THE DOCTOR ALWAYS TOLD ME:  DON'T DROP YOUR DOSE UNTIL ATLEAST 14 DAYS AFTER YOUR LAST BRAIN ZAP."  :ph34r:  LOL.  I hadn't had ANY for 3 months, but I guess the combo of BOTH going completly off the CR (Which had been the majority of my dosing since March COMBINED with the fact that I'm dropping to (after reading the one article) what SEEMS to my brain a higher percentage each time probably pushed me over the edge, so to speak.  :wub: 

 

Thanks again!  :) 

 

PS:  The headaches!... Did I forget to mention the headaches? Lol

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Colonial

Dear Alto,

 

I'm wondering if the Wellbutrin discontinuation at the same time maybe effected the paxil withdrawal?  Luckily, the Wellbutrin withdrawal gave me a COMPLETELY different set of symptoms so it was easy to tell which was which. But can MULTIPE WITHDRAWALS at the SAME TIME exaserbate the symptoms of EACH withdrawal?  My Wellbutrin withdrawal schedule started 2 months after the Paxil. 

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL

 

3/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptons started on day 9) (DOCTOR: "I've NEVER had ANYONE have a problem cutting Wellbutrin in half to 150XL")

4/16: 125mg   for 20 days to:

5/6:   100mg  for  15 days to:

5/21    75mg  for  10 days to:

6/1:  56.25mg      13 days to:

6/13: 37.25mg      7 days to:

6/20  28.12mg    14 days to:

7/4    18.75mg current

 

They other thing i didn't know at the time, is that if you are withdrawing off of Wellbutrin and on ANY BENO... You are only supposed to drop the Wellbutrin NO MORE than 20 mg's every 14 days.  MAXIMUM.  So besides the paxil withdrawal, AND the Wellbutrin withdrawal because of bad advice to cut that in half all at once, it them also put me in Xanax withdrawal, as dropping Wellbutrin more than 20 mgs. every 14 days will metabolize the Xanax out of your system 2-3 times FASTER than normal, thus putting you in Beno withdrawal as well.  I'm amazed I'm still functioning being in 3 withdrawals all at once.  All because these drug companies don't want to be honest with the doctors about how SLOW the tapering needs to be and how tapering off one med can affect another perhaps?

 

Thanks for any info on multiple withdrawals interacting or exaserbating each other!

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Addax

Hi Colonial. Welcome to SA.

 

We advocate tapering one medication at a time here. It allows our body and brain to adjust to small changes rather than get jolted by major ones. You are also able to differentiate which med is causing which symptoms and adjust accordingly rather than guess and play around with both.

 

With Welbutrin you also need to be careful when taking it with an SSRI. As I understand it Wellbutrin competes with the SSRI to be metabolized cause a sort of traffic jam. What this does is allow the SSRI to linger longer causing an increase in the blood concentration of the SSRI and also keeps it around longer (extending its half-life). Basically, Wellbutrin acts like a booster for the SSRI. This means that when you decrease your Welbutrin dose you are inadvertently decreasing the Paxil. If you do both at the same time, your 10% Paxil drops could be more like 20 Or 30 %... Or more which may cause worse withdrawal symptoms. Unfortunately There's not enough information available yet to determine exactly how much Welbutrin influences how much of the other drug.

 

In short, it's best to start with just one and usually it's recommended to start with the Wellbutrin taper because it is a more activating med, and also due to what I described above.

 

Here's more information on tapering more than one drug: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1070-taper-more-than-one-drug-at-a-time/

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Altostrata

Colonial, how many drugs are you taking?
 
Please put ALL the drugs you take in the Drug Interactions Checker http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html and copy and paste the results in this topic.
 
Since the brain zaps started with your latest drop from 11mg to 10mg, if I were you, I'd increase the Paxil dosage slightly, perhaps to 10.5mg. Then figure on holding for a while to let your nervous system settle down, and taper more slowly after that.

 

Going off 2 drugs at once can definitely complicate withdrawal symptoms.
 
Also, Please put your withdrawal history in your signature

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Colonial

Hi Everybody!

 

Addax! Thank you about the info on the Wellbutrin and Paxil interaction! I was aware that the Wellbutrin could do that with the Xanax, and therefore NOT to drop the Wellbutrin more than 20mg's every 14 days, but to find out it does the same with the Paxil is an Absolute Godsend!  As my taper schedule shows, I haven't dropped the Paxil in 29 days but in the same time frame I have dropped the Wellbutrin TWICE from a total of 37.25 on 6/13 to 18.75 just a week ago on 7/4.  No wonder I'm not feeling better.  I'm glad I found all of you when I did since today was the day I was going to drop the Wellbutrin down in half again to about 9.375.  WELL THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OFF THE TABLE!  :wacko:

 

I am a little leery of upping the Paxil even just a bit as since as soon as my body stablizes on the Wellbutrin level, by body is going to be reabsorbing the Paxil again at the original rate, hence better than it is now.  But just knowing it could have been the extra Wellbrutrin drops interaction makes a big difference in me not coming to despair about the whole thing!  IF ANY, I think I might just up the Wellbutrin a tiny bit since that is what I have been drooping most the past 2 months. 

 

Alto! Working on the signature now.. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP!  :D

 

Here is the working link for the drug interaction page.

 

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=72-8506,1463-869,440-203,133-54

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Altostrata

Okay, please don't change the dosage of any of your drugs for a while, let your nervous system settle down. This could take some time. It's not a good idea to keep tapering when you have brain zaps, etc.

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Colonial

Wow, the headaches are really really bad again the past 36 hours.  I think I'm going to increase the Wellbutrin back up to what it was before my last cut a week ago and take a little more Paxil for a few days, see if that helps.

 

Thanks!

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Altostrata

Please don't randomly change your drugs, or change two drugs at once.

 

As you can see, you don't know which drug reduction has caused your symptoms. Same thing can happen if you increase dosage of two drugs at once.

 

Don't take anything "for a few more days." Going up and down with dosages makes it all worse.

 

Be very systematic. Keep notes of your dosages and symptom patterns.

 

If you must, change only the Wellbutrin. You need to give a drug change at least 4 days to see if it's going to help.

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Colonial

Makes sense.  Ok,  I will put the Wellbutrin back up to what it was a week ago since I had cut it the most over the past 2 months.  I took one extra mg of paxil for today but will go back to 10 mg tomorrow.  Thanks! 

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Humm... I can't edit the earlier post now.. Weird.. :unsure:  :wacko:

 

Okay, I forgot I have one more dose of the Liquid paxil tonight, so I can adjust it andkeep it at 10mgs today and not 11. 

 

Secondly, I forgot to add the one med in the first interaction chart so here is the new one.  I'll try to add it to the signature line as well.

 

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1463-869,440-203,133-54

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Altostrata

You have one hour to edit a post.

 

The way you update your topic is by adding a post.

 

You can see for yourself that taking a lot of prescription drugs is highly risky. Even if you don't feel the adverse effects, the interactions erode general health.

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Colonial

Having trouble regulating my temperature again today. :huh:  Haven't had that since March -April.  Just start sweating for no reason.  Had that when my Paxil was dropping between 20-14 mgs about. Bad heachaches for the past 48 hours as well as the regular Electrical Shocks and trouble thinking.

 

Second day of raising the Wellbutrin a bit.  Glad I found you all before I dropped the Wellburin again yesterday as planned.

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Altostrata

Drug changes up or down can destabilize the nervous system. It may take some time to settle down.

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Colonial

Wow this is really awful.  I spent most all of yesterday in bed, in the dark, since that was the only way to get rid of the migrane.  And now I'm walking around in such a brain fog today I just "cooked" the same exact can of soup TWICE in 4 hours... Completely forgot I already made this stuff... How long is this gonna last?  I'm "pre" panicking.   :(

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Addax

Don't panic, colonial. It's not fun, and it's scary, but what you are experiencing isn't unusual. One of the important things to do for yourself and your healing is try to do things (or avoid things) to relieve stress. Whether it's TV, Yoga, drawing, or going for a walk, distractions such as those can be very helpful and bring about much needed de-stressing.

 

Also, it may feel like it, but what you're feeling won't last forever. It's hard to say how long a particular symptom or cluster of symptoms will last. It varies by person, drug, and/or any combination of life circumstances. Refraining from adjusting med doses is key. It's not always easy to do, but stability (and relief) will come. After than you can start a controlled taper if you chose.

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Colonial

Ok, thanks Addax. I haven't felt this bad since the "activation" phase of the Wellbutrin in September.  :angry:  That's the culprit I think. It's good to know it also affected the Paxil levels and gave me those symptoms again too but the strange thoughts like:  "Put your shoes in the Freeezer"....Or:  "Pick up that knife and stab yourself in the eye" is the Wellbutrin.  And since those withdrawal symptoms don't start until later than the Paxil it makes sense I'm still having them.

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Colonial

I'm off to the doctor, with some of these printouts. And to tell Him He can't drop people from 300 mg to 150 Wellbutrin all at once when they are also on a Beno and an SSRI.  I don't blame Him, He only knows what the drug companies tell Him, which is NOTHING.  

 

Also, I noticed this crash coinsides with my dropping the Wellbutrin, AT THE NEAR 10% of my ORIGINAL DOSE LEVEL...

 

Just like the SSRI SERT CURVE!

 

(My Paxil related symptoms started to get bad again at just that time, that's why started my posting here to begin with.)

 

 Interesting co -incidence? Or does the Wellbutrin also rewire the brain AND affect the Beno and SSRI THE MOST at those sub theraputic levels of 50mgs or so?

 

Talk to you all later.

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Colonial

I'm pretty sure I forgot to report that the original symptoms in this crash started about 3 weeks ago.  I started SMELLING the COLOR BROWN and TASTING NUMBERS...Numbers 5 and 8 inparticular..  You can kind of explain what smelling a color is like to people since people can correlate colors of foods but trying to explain what a number tastes like is not possible.

 

The doctor isn't amused... :unsure:  He remembers the weird thoughts from the Wellbutrin Activation stage, the:  "Put your shoes in the freezer"...And the "Stab yourself in the eye with the knife"... but the neurological symptoms I didnt have then.  The past 2 days have been better overall compared to Sunday and Monday which were the worst so hopefully that was the "bottomed out" period.  Still having headaches but the Electric shocks have dimished in number and intensity.  Only 2 yesterday. No strange thoughts since... I think Wensday, but only 2.  None yesterday.  The brain fog has cleared a good bit, I still have periods in the afternoon for a few hours and then again in the evening but it's not all day.

 

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I'm glad you're feeling like the last couple of days have been better. Sometimes symptoms can vary in intensity (we often refer to them as "windows" and "waves"). Nhere's some discussion on that : http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/82-the-windows-and-waves-pattern-of-stabilization/

 

Sometimes it seems that as you get to the much lower doses you feel the decreases more strongly. Some people, myself included, plan on smaller cuts at the lower does. You're planning on holding for a little while, am I correct?

 

Did the doctor have any insight into the tasting colors and numbers?

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Colonial

Hi Addax, Nice to hear from you again.

 

Tasting and smelling colors and numbers is something neurological.  It can happen when people have strokes, too.  I used to have Petit Mal Seizures when I was younger and I could smell colors then but it hadn't happened in so long.  When it happened again a few weeks ago I just related it to that weak point for me personally. I didn't originally make the connection that it was an early warning sign, showing the stress from the medication drops at either too fast a rate or not a long enough time in between changes. And when my system crashed I had already made further drops at the beginning of the crash before i knew that was what was happening.

 

The doctor isn't happy at all about that.  And he seems to be under the impression, (for whatever reason) that He THOUGHT he told me not to drop more than one med at a time.  I have no recollection of this conversation.  He may very well be correct, I was already 2 months into the Paxil withdraw and not doing well after those first few weeks.  But, He was also the one who said that I could start right off in March by dropping the Wellbutrin in half: "I've NEVER had ANYONE have a problem dropping their Wellbutrin righ in half from 300 to 150"...so.. you know.. I guess we all learn as we go. He didn't know of the problems with Wellbutrin being the dominant med boosting the Paxil and Xanax and lowering those levels automatically just from the Wellbutrin drops alone.

 

So, blood work came back today, everything "seems" normal.  And it didn't affect any of the Cancer levels, or at least not showing it did.  That's what I was most concerned about, the interaction with the Cancer stuff.

 

So, the plan is no further Paxil drops until after I'm off the Wellbutrin completely and only finish dropping that for now. Gonna stay at this level of Wellbutrin which I increased about a week ago till about Labor day.  That should give me 7 weeks to see how things go. Supposed to keep a symptom chart everyday until then.  "Come back in 3 months, I don't need to see you before then".

 

What do you think?

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Glad to hear your blood work "seems" normal, but I'm sorry that cancer is something your having to deal with :-(.

 

I think the tapering the Welbutrin while holding at the current Paxil dose sounds good. The general reccomendation here is to only taper by 10% increments. Here's more on that : http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1024-why-taper-by-10-of-my-dosage/

 

As you know, the Wellbutrin decreases will likely affect a decrease in th plasma concentration of the Paxil, so monitor your reaction after each drop closely. Some people drop less than 10% if they feel the withdrawal symptoms are too uncomfortable. Some people will also hold longer than the reccomended 5-6 weeks between drops. For instance, I had a rough go of it for a bit, and Prozac seems to have a lag due to its long half-life, plus I had some stressful (albeit positive) life changes, I've held for 4 months despite being withdrawal symptom free for probably 3 of those months. It's can really be individual. Given your medical history I think being as conservative as possible would be wise and as you see how your brain and body are feeling you can maybe make adjustments.

 

My reccomendation is to makes sure you feel stabile before you begin tapering again. As Alto said, stability can take a little awhile. Also, try not to set deadlines for when you'll be off a particular med: Withdrawal tends NOT to be linear. Also incredibly important, be kind to yourself!

 

Keep checking in and letting us know how things are going.

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Colonial

ADDAX WROTE:   Some people will also hold longer than the recommended 5-6 weeks between drops.

 

HI Addax  :) 

 

Well no wonder I finally crashed.  I had read 10% of the original dose every 2 weeks.  I never stayed at one level more than 3 weeks I think, and mostly just 2.  Also, that Wellbutrin cut straight in half in Mid March really messed me up.  Within 6 weeks of doing that, I've been getting my period EVERY 19 TO 21 DAYS AND HAVE HAD AN E COLI BACTERIAL INFECTION IN MY BLADDER TWICE...   You know, the more I remember everything I've been through since January it's a wonder I'm doing as well as I am, if that means nothing more than I'm out of bed for ONLY EIGHT hours of the day.

 

I think when the doctor says, He never had a problem with people dropping their Wellbutrin right in half and then off   completely only a month after that, is because my symptoms from that drop didn't happen right away and their not symptoms people would usually think to RELATE TO THE WELLBUTRIN.  I mean, if you get an E coli bacterial infection 8 weeks after dropping your dose in half ( which is KNOWN to be from the Wellbutrin withdrawal), why would either you or the doctor think that was related?  8 weeks later?  Or if you cut your Wellbutrin in half and then off completely in only another 30 days, why would you assume that is what it is if 6 weeks later when your menstrual system is out of wack?  You wouldn't, and neither does your general Physician.  He just thinks, well, go to the gynecologist, your in your 40's now, it's probably got to do with that.  No.. AGAIN...It's the too fast Wellbutrin withdrawal. 

 

But it makes sense why I'm STILL getting my period every 19-21 since the end of April  and why I got the E Coli infection in my bladder a second time if I've still been cutting it 25 mg's every 12-17 days.  My 2 main Wellbutrin symptoms are sore throat and extreme thirst, and they start between day 9 and 11.  I get the sore throat for 2 days FIRST, and then the thirst.  And that has happened like clockwork at EACH DROP.  So that's why I figured, I've been at this higher level since the 11th, Labor day gives me 7 weeks to re coup and see where I am symptom wise.

 

Also, every time I eat, within 20 minutes I get a headache.  My body can't even add that normal function on to it's work load of the withdrawal without complaining.

 

You know, these companies tell you NOT to cut the pills in half, yet they refuse to formulate them in the smaller dosages necessary for a healthy taper.  If the smallest Wellbutrin pill I can get is 75 mg, how do you even cut it 20mgs at a time and know your getting the right dose.  I have 100mg pills to play with as well but this burden shouldn't be on us.  Their isn't one damn good reason why they cant make these pills in smaller dosages. If  they would make a 40mg pill, you could cut it in ABOUT EVEN quarters, and at least you would know that within 72 hours of cutting your pill, you would have consumed EXACTLY 40 mgs between Monday morning when you first butcher the pill and Thursday morning when you take the last 'quarter".

 

 THEY JUST HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING IT AS HARD AS POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO GET OFF ... SO YOU DON'T

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Yesterday it started that when I would look at the screen to read, it was as if the letters in the words were upside down. :(  The doctor is at a complete loss as to what to make of me, other than I am having a neurological reaction to the Medication drop.  My toes and thumbs feel strange and my body feels frozen.  Yesterday I fell asleep for about an hour but it was sort of like a sleep paralysis.  Very strange.

 

Help. 

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Altostrata

Correct, you are having a neurological reaction to the medication drop.

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Colonial

So this "normal"?  For some percentage?  And I know this is a stupid question but, any idea how long it can continue?  Thank you AltoStrata. Also, I'm having, obviously, a lot of trouble focusing on letters, and trouble thinking, can you post a link that might provide some insight on this? The neurological aspect?  Sorry and thank you.

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Altostrata

The "neurological reaction to the medication drop" aka withdrawal syndrome is the main subject of this entire site.
 
See What is withdrawal syndrome?

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Colonial

I'm not able to stay wake for more than a few hours at a time. I woke up at 6 pm with the worst panic attack I've had in 20 years. This has been the worst 11 days I can remember.

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Petunia

Hi Colonial,

I'm sorry you are having a rough time at the moment, I don't have any more suggestions beyond what has been written so far, but I empathize with what you are going through.

 

I'm a bit confused about your drug history. Are you still taking all the drugs listed in your interactions checker report?

 

How long have you been taking xanax, and how often do you take it, what dose?

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The only thing I haven't needed in the past few days is the skelaxin muscle relaxers.  I use those and the Percocet for major back injury.  I usually take about .75 or 1 mg once a day of the xanax during the last few hours I'm up.  but the doctor said that i should start taking it during the day when i feel the toes and thumbs burning or being stabbed to help calm the nerve endings.  He said by no means stop taking it as i don't need another withdrawal on top of the 2 I'm having.  I don't understand why I'm continuing to get worse.  I thought I bottomed out last Sunday and Monday, as I was beginning to feel better the end of last week.  then this Sunday I'm been doing worse again.  The flu like symptoms aren't all the time but when I have them i cant even sit up, and the intense headache if I try to digest anything is crazy.  Tonight I wanted to die.  Not from depression, but just from the symptoms and the panic.  I don't know how much longer I can hold out.  I live by myself and I already own the neighbors $20 for food because I'm not well enough to leave the house.

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