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This is a site for peer support, documentation, and education regarding withdrawal and withdrawal syndrome caused by psychiatric drugs, specifically antidepressants.

 

Withdrawal syndrome may occur after you stop taking a psychiatric medication and can last weeks, months, or years. While some people may be able to quickly stop taking these medications without serious symptoms, severe withdrawal syndrome can happen to anyone.

 

Tapering off the medication is the only known way to reduce the risk of withdrawal syndrome.

 

Don't risk the integrity of your nervous system -- if not in an emergency, do not suddenly stop taking any psychiatric medication.

 

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Completion of your registration for SurvivingAntidepressants.org means you understand and agree to the following:

 

This site does not provide medical advice. For medical advice, see a trusted medical caregiver. Information presented here is intended for discussion with your doctor.

 

 

Rules and guidelines for Surviving Antidepressants

 

-  Because of the sensitive nature of the discussions, members are encouraged protect their identities with pseudonyms.

 

- Each member must decide how much personal information to reveal in public postings. Generally, posts and accounts are not deleted.

 

-  You will respect the privacy of each member.

 

-  The first 2 posts of new members will be approved by moderators before being published. This is to make sure the initial posts of new members get responses from moderators.

 

-  A posting expresses the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this site. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any posting, and are not responsible for the contents of any posting.

 

-  You may not re-post the words of any member on other sites without that person's express permission.

 

-  A member who finds a posting objectionable is encouraged to contact the administrator through the site private messaging system.

 

- We will remove objectionable posts at our discretion. If you continue with objectionable behavior after warning by an administrator, your membership will be revoked. See What will get you warned or banned.

 

- You agree that you will not post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law, on this site.

 

- Copyrighted material may be quoted in part or excerpted under the Fair Use exception of 17 USC Section 107. Posting of copyrighted material is the sole responsibility of the poster and not this site. Should a complaint be made by the owner about the unauthorized posting of copyrighted material, the site administrators will remove it.

 

- Posting of advertising or commercial solicitations is barred.

 

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Updates, discussion, and questions regarding Rules and Guidelines are posted in the Read This First forum.

 

This site is not affiliated with any religious, medical, or pharmaceutical organization or company. It does not receive any funding or support from outside sources other than contributions from members. Staffing is entirely volunteer.

 

 


 

 

You will see this notice prior to registration:

 

If you decide to go off your drugs, you must take the responsibility of coping with any distressing symptoms that may arise, including those patterns of thinking the drugs were intended to remedy.
 
We intend to provide a safe atmosphere for everyone. This site does not offer psychiatric care or psychotherapeutic care. If you need intensive attention, we urge you to also seek face-to-face therapeutic support in your life off-line, from mental health professionals, communities of faith, or other groups.

 
As this is only a forum site, we cannot deal with emergencies of any type. If you have persistent thoughts of suicide, please contact the suicide hotline near you rather than posting them on this site.
 
Completing this registration signifies your agreement to the above and to the Rules and Guidelines.

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To assist the finding of information:

 

- Topics may be moved to more appropriate categories.

 

- Redundant topics may be combined. Tip: Use search first before starting a topic that may have been covered before, such as a question about a supplement.

 

- Posts may be moved from one topic to another.

 

Thank you!


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When you've made your 10th post, your member title will change from Getting Started to Member.

 

As you increase your posting:

 

Silver star 100 posts

Gold star 1000

Platinum star 2000

Fingers of titanium 5000

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UnfoldingSky

What is the policy on talking about herbs/supplements? If you aren't pushing a specific brand?

 

I ask because I take something that has helped me, which I have only ever seen promoted by one other person (and never spoken of negatively) in spite of years of reading on other sites. I wanted to post something about it (it's a herb, and I take it as a very strong tea). Obviously I can't tell anyone to take it, but I know some other psych drug withdrawal sites don't like even the mention of herbs as it puts a suggestion out there that could be dangerous. If I write something without expressly telling anyone to take it, and with the caveat that people do their own research, is that permitted?

 

Can someone clarify for me? Thanks!


I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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No problem. You may start a topic and post about your experience in the Symptoms and What Helps forum. If others know about the tea, they may add to the topic.

 

Be aware -- many people are hypersensitive to different things and may not have a good experience with something you've found to be helpful.


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About screen name changes

 

When you register, please choose a screen name that protects your identity. Unless you want family and friends to recognize your posts, do not tell them your screen name on SurvivingAntidepressants.org.

 

We minimize the changing of screen names

- To save work for the administrators (particularly me).

- To maintain a stable community, where people get to know you by your screen name and may be confused if it changes.

 

We will change screen names only for privacy reasons:

- If your screen name can be easily found in Google and tied to your real name. (This applies mostly to people who have used their surnames or family names as screen names.)

- If your screen name is the same as the one you use on social media.

 

Use of a first name as a screen name usually does not qualify as a privacy concern. A first name would have to be so unique it could be found quickly in Google AND related to your real name.

 

For example, there are many, many people in the world named Sandeep. If your real name and screen name are Sandeep, it's unlikely anyone who knows you would be able to find your posts on SurvivingAntidepressants.org via Google and attribute them to who you are in real life.

 

How to request a screen name change

Please respect my time and that of the other administrators: Do not request a screen name change unless you have a good privacy-based reason for the request.

 

We will not make screen name changes simply because someone decides he or she wants a new name.

 

Send a personal message to me or another administrator with this information:

  • Your privacy-based reason for changing your screen name
  • Your new screen name -- check the Members list to make sure the screen name is not already being used

Screen name changes will be made only once.

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About the privacy of personal messages

 

Administrators and moderators do not read personal messages of other members unless the messages are addressed to them.

 

The forum software does not permit this, and I have no plans to install any add-ons that will enable viewing of personal messages.

 

According to the provider of the forum software:

 

We generally take the view that messages should be between users unless reported, so we haven't provided a viewing tool in the Admininstrator Control Panel. That said, we don't refer to them as 'private messages' because they aren't. There's three options for seeing them:

  • Users can report posts in a PM, which alerts staff via the Moderator Control Panel to the post in question
  • Users can invite staff into the PM in which case the full conversation is available to them
  • An administrator can browse through the database.

 

The last option -- browsing the database -- takes special technical skills that we would never employ for this purpose.

 

All the moderators and administrators here have signed a promise of confidentiality. If any is indiscreet or misuses personal information of our members, that person would find him- or herself without permissions right away, and probably banned.

 

NOTE There is one more way I might be able to read a personal message:

 

You may have set up your account so you get e-mail alerts when you have a new personal message. If you reply to this e-mail  instead of going to the site to read your personal messages, the reply gets sent to the SurvivingAntidepressants.org e-mail address. Embedded in the text is the personal message.

 

I would rather not get these messages. If you reply to an e-mail alert you will get this automated response:

 

This is Altostrata. When you reply to an e-mail alert, the mail comes to me.

To reply to your personal messages, please log in to SurvivingAntidepressants.org and click on the little envelope icon next to your name in the upper right of every page. You will see your personal messages.

Please do NOT reply to your e-mail alerts.

Thank you,

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buggedout

Is there a way to have more than 12 lines in a signature? Certain # of posts etc.?


Effexor XR:

July 2008: 150mg | June 24 2015: 145mg | July 28 2015: 130.5mg | Sept 4 2015: 117mg

Nov 10 2015: 105mg | Jan 24 2016: 94.5mg | Feb 28 2016: 85mg | Mar 27 2016: 76.5mg

Apr 28 2016: 69mg | Aug 14 2016: 62mg | Jan 19 2017: 56mg | Feb 21 2017: 50mg

Mar 30 2017: 36mg | Apr 2 2017: 45mg | Sep 1 2019: 27.5mg | April 9 2020: 25.2mg

 

Vitamins & Supplements:

MegaFood Women's One Daily | Metagenix D3 5000 IU | Barlean's High Potency Omega 3 1500mg (Liquid)
Thorne Deproloft-HF (during weans)

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No. The number of lines in a signature is limited because people were taking up pages with their signatures. This makes reading a thread difficult.


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Please note we often give information that quite detailed, including calculations that some may find difficult.

 

We try to give full information so you know what you might be attempting. There may be warnings and cautions included. Please pay attention to these.

 

Because the information is important to your safety, for any of our topics in the Tapering or Symptoms forum, it's your responsibility to read the first posts in the topic, where essential information is given, before the community starts commenting.

 

If you post a question that has been covered early in the topic, you may be reminded by the staff to do so.

 

Please be considerate of staff time and read the beginning of a topic in the Symptoms and Tapering forums.


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EKS04

Thank you for your time and consideration 

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Iatrogenesis

Would you consider making this non-mandatory:

 

REQUIRED Enter nearest town, state or region, and country so others who live nearby can find you.

 

This is a site where people post sensitive info, after all... At least not the nearest town... I see people don't give this info anyway and nobody cares, but I felt like I was being pressured to give my exact location when I didn't want to because of the nature of this site so I made something up and now I feel bad about it...

 

 

 


1 year risperidone, 1 year olanzapine (10 mg). attempted first withdrawal cold turkey, failed. 2 more years olanzapine, switched to abilify which was very disruptive so attempted quitting cold turkey, failed. then 4 years amisulpride at 150 mg and about 3 zoloft at 150 mg. attempted withdrawal from both in 3 weeks, failed. reinstated zoloft and bridged to olanzapine (10 mg), successfully withdrew it over 10 months. tried withdrawing zoloft over 12 months, failed. bridged to prozac, at 40 mg,  now at 12 mg.

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Interesting point. Thank you.


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theskul

I have an online friend who is too much in agony to make an account here. What, if any, is the appropriate way for me to help him? Can I help him through this site?


2000-20017: on Prozac and Effexor and Wellbutrin in varying dosages
2013: anti manic drug taken for like a week. Lithium, Seroquel, Truxal(a few times) taken for a few weeks upto a month


April 2019: Was gradually put on 15mg Olanzapine, 40mg Prozac

Jun-August 2019: Olanzapine lowered to 5mg in a few steps, Prozac lowered to 20mg
Sep 2019: Olanzapine changed from 5 mg to 2.5mg, Prozac changed from 20mg to 10mg, Melatonin 0.75mg added.

Nov 2019: Olanzapine tapererd from 2.5mg - 1mg
 
April 2019 - 22. Nov: Oxazepam(Benzo) used a few times a week in small doses (5mg) with a few exceptions.
 
22. Nov - 27. Nov: 1-2x0.5mg Tafil Retard(like Xanax Extended Release 0,5mg) added but stopped 27. Nov 2019

28.Nov-7. Des: 5mg-10mg/day Oxazepam to taper from Tafil, Melatonin upped to 1.5mg,

1. or 2. Des: Prozac increased from 10mg to 20mg. 4. or 5. Des: Prozac stopped abruptly

In Ketosis since 1. Des 2019
Current meds (8. Des - current, 2019) Valium 5mg, Olanzpine 0.9mg,  Melatonin 1.5mg-2.25mg

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18 hours ago, theskul said:

I have an online friend who is too much in agony to make an account here. What, if any, is the appropriate way for me to help him? Can I help him through this site?

 

Though we prefer to work directly with the person, we have in the past worked through another person.  You would need to open a new account with a new username and write an introduction explaining the situation.


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Oct. 21, 2020 at 0.025mg

Taper is 99.875% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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carefulprayerful

Hi I was wondering how I can make tags appear next to the title of my Introductions topic on the page "Introduction and updates" https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forum/3-introductions-and-updates/ listing all the Introductions topics.  I want to add tags that say the names of my drugs.  I am so grateful for this website.  Thanks!


Jan. 2018:     900 mg  Lithium      1.0 mg Risperidone            250 mg Lamotrigine

Jan. 2019:     0 mg Lithium           0.625 mg Risperidone        175 mg Lamotrigine

Jan. 2020:     0 mg Lithium           0.260 mg Risperidone        175 mg Lamotrigine

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7 hours ago, carefulprayerful said:

how I can make tags appear next to the title of my Introductions topic

Go to your first post in your Introductions topic.  On the left under your screen name you'll see a small rectangle with "+ tags."

Type the first drug name you want to enter.  Then click on the black "save" icon.  Another "+ tag" will appear next to the drug name you've just saved.  Type your second drug, etc.


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Oct. 21, 2020 at 0.025mg

Taper is 99.875% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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15 hours ago, Gridley said:

Go to your first post in your Introductions topic.  On the left under your screen name you'll see a small rectangle with "+ tags."

Type the first drug name you want to enter.  Then click on the black "save" icon.  Another "+ tag" will appear next to the drug name you've just saved.  Type your second drug, etc.

For some reason, I don't see this on my page...the only thing under my screen name is the buttons to go to the next/last page/page 2/etc.


Jan. 2018:     900 mg  Lithium      1.0 mg Risperidone            250 mg Lamotrigine

Jan. 2019:     0 mg Lithium           0.625 mg Risperidone        175 mg Lamotrigine

Jan. 2020:     0 mg Lithium           0.260 mg Risperidone        175 mg Lamotrigine

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Gratitude

Gratitude here, need help ro update, reply and basic how to for this site. I thought I saved my intro but didnt. Can anyone help? I really want to be involved.

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3 hours ago, Gratitude said:

Gratitude here, need help ro update, reply and basic how to for this site

 

Gratitude,

 

Go to the Introductions and Updates forum.  You will see your Introduction, my replies, and your second introduction merged into your original one.  That's really where you need to post now, only there.  

 

Please don't forget to answer my questions, again in your Introduction thread. Here is a link that will take you there.

Gratitude: Introduction and updates

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Oct. 21, 2020 at 0.025mg

Taper is 99.875% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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gardenlady

How many members does this forum have?  Is that info available anywhere on this site?


 

2016-Aug-Prescribed 2 mg Ativan & 10 mg Ambien; Oct-c/o from 20 mg Lexapro to 60 mg Cymbalta; Nov-Dec-Tapered off 10 mg Ambien    

2017-Jan-Feb c/o from 1.75 mg Ativan to 13 mg Valium & begin daily liquid micro taper; May-taper Cymbalta 60 mg to 48 mg with severe withdrawals.  Begin 11 month Cymbalta hold.

2018-Jan 11 completed Valium taper; Apr-Resume Cymbalta taper.  Interval dose progress: Apr 43 mg; May 40 mg; Jul 35 mg; Sep 29 mg; Dec 21 mg; 

2019- Apr 14 mg; Jun 11 mg; Aug 9 mg; Oct 7 mg; Nov 6 mg

2020-Jan 5.2 mg; Feb 4.8 mg; Mar 4.3 mg; Apr 3.9 mg; May 3.5 mg; Jun 3.3 mg; Jul 2.9 mg; Aug 2.7 mg; 28 Sep 2.4 mg/12 beads; 25 Oct 2.2 mg/11 beads

 

 

 

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Armorall

I believe there's 13,000 registered users. Alto posts the stats somewhere on the site. 


3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg

3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg

7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone

7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg

7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects

8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg

8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 

8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia

From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever

Currently taking Magnesium 150mgs daily

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manymoretodays

Some stats are posted here:  About SurvivingAntidepressants.org

Down at the bottom of the topic, last posted October 2019

And yes, 13,000 were registered, as of then!


Started with psycho meds circa 1988 I think 27 or 28 total.

AD's, antpsychotics, antiseizure mood stabilizers. Lithium, lamictal ,benzos, and stimulants. Some med. for narcolepsy once(Provigil,) Gabapentin........probably more.  Ask me?......I probably was on it.  Haphazard W/D's by Dr. recommend or uneducated self.

10/2014- off Lexapro--had been on highest dose 10 mg. then 5 mg. for a couple of years, went from 5 mg. to 3 mg. liquid and then CT in hospital(voluntary).  I got out of the hospital on a combination of low dose adderal salts x1/day and trileptal 150mg. x2/day.

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!

 

3/21/2016---I did some unwise updosing of trileptal/oxcarbazepine with some stressful stuff......doubled the above dose x2 during this last wave but began liquifying again and on approximately 68mg. starting today.  11/12//2016 24 mg. oxcarbazepine  12/9/2016 off oxcarbazepine/trileptal!!!! :) optimistic  2016 December 9- completely off all medications!!!!!

Omega3's,EPA +DHA= 1800 mg/day. Magnesium complex, orally, diluted in a liter of H2O(that I can shake up.....it usually dissolves more completely as the water gets down to room temperature) and/or Epsom salt baths prn.   Vit. C, D3, and E.  B12, melatonin tapered to 1mg., and bioidentical hormones sublingually.  Trace mineral drops.  L-lysine.  L-methylfolate=400 mcg plus daily spinach. Totally ready for a good long window to hit soon and getting better strings of full days and partial days along the way.  Definite improvement overall since I first arrived on the SA survivor ship.  Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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