Freeby60: this month is the 24th anniversary of getting on ADs - 24 years!

[Freeby60]

I'm please to note that the reduction of the quetiapine doesn't seem to be too difficult. I am considering  on cutting the next dose after 2 weeks, assuming things continue to go well. That would be around 12/23. Is that too soon? 

[Freeby60]

8:30 am - mild anxiety that passes

9 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

Symptom free day

7:00 pm - omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

8 pm - jaw clenching, soft palate spasm 2 x

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 22.5 mgs 

10 pm- sleep 9 hours

[Freeby60]

 

12/15

8:30 am - mild anxiety that passes

9 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

11:30 am - emotional lability, tired, brain fog

1:30 pm- nap

4 pm - sucking on lips

7:00 pm - omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 22.5 mgs 

10 pm - soft palate spasm 2x

10:30 pm - sleep 10 hours 

[Freeby60]

12/17

8:30 am - mild anxiety that passes

9 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

5 pm - soft palate spasm 2x

7:00 pm - omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 22.5 mgs 

10 pm - soft palate spasm 1x

10:30 pm - sleep 9 hours

*****

[Freeby60]

12/18

8:30 am - woke mild anxiety that passes

9 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

11 am - emotional easily triggered 

1 pm - feeling low mood lack of motivation 

1:30 pm - nap for half hour

2 pm - able to rally myself for a small zoom business holiday party and actually have fun. Fun! It feels rare.

4:30 pm - soft palate spasm 1x

7:00 pm - omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 22.5 mgs 

10 pm - soft palate spasm 2x

10:30 pm - sleep 9 hours

 

I notice 2 new symptoms since I made my first Quetiapine cut of 10% on December 9th. The morning anxiety that passes quickly, and emotional sensitivity. When cutting Lex I would wait until these new symptoms subside for a week or longer before I make another cut. I assume it would not be different for Quetiapine and didn’t see anything of note when reading about tapering. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Freeby60]

12/19

8:30 am - mild anxiety that passes

9 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

Wonderful window day, although aware of TD throughout.

7:00 pm - omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

Evening was the same, easy night, with mild Td symptoms such as lip sucking.

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 22.5 mgs 

10 pm - soft palate spasm 2x

10:30 pm - sleep 9 hours

[Altostrata]

On 12/19/2021 at 7:56 AM, Freeby60 said:

I notice 2 new symptoms since I made my first Quetiapine cut of 10% on December 9th. The morning anxiety that passes quickly, and emotional sensitivity. When cutting Lex I would wait until these new symptoms subside for a week or longer before I make another cut. I assume it would not be different for Quetiapine and didn’t see anything of note when reading about tapering. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Hello, @Freeby60. You did not have this morning anxiety prior to reducing quetiapine?

 

On 12/14/2021 at 6:46 AM, Freeby60 said:

That would be around 12/23. Is that too soon? 

 

If you didn't have the morning anxiety before reducing quetiapine, my guess is it's a withdrawal symptom -- about 10 hours after the dose, your system "expects" the remainder of 25mg quetiapine but is getting only 22.5mg.

 

How long does this anxiety last?

[Freeby60]

22 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

How long does this anxiety last?

This anxiety, which is new since I cut the Quetiapine, happens briefly most mornings. I feel like I’m going to have an anxiety attack and usually within a few breaths it passes. 

[Altostrata]

Yes, you might make another small decrease in quetiapine. Since it's just before the holiday, how about only 1mg?

[Freeby60]

6 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Yes, you might make another small decrease in quetiapine. Since it's just before the holiday, how about only 1mg?

That sounds reasonable. 

[Freeby60]

12/20

8:30 am - mild anxiety that is barely a blip on my radar that passes- yay!

9 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

11 am - soft palate spasms

4:00 pm - tongue/jaw movements 

7:00 pm - omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

8:30 pm - tongue/jaw

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 22.5 mgs 

10 pm - soft palate spasm 2x

10:30 pm - sleep 9 hours

[Freeby60]

12/22

9:00 am - wake with not a smidge of anxiety 

9:15 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram 0.13 ml/0.13 mgs, Probiotic

1:00 pm - soft palate spasms

4 pm - tongue sucking 

7:00 pm - indigestion *

7:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

7:30 pm - soft palate spasm

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21.5 mgs 

10:45 pm - soft palate spasm

11:30 pm - sleep for 8.5 hrs
* lasted off and on until bed. 

[Freeby60]

Forgot to post yesterday, 

12/21

8:30 am - wake mild anxiety 

9 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

11 am - soft palate spasms

4:00 pm - tongue/jaw movements 

7:00 pm - omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

7:30 pm - soft palate spasm

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21.5 mgs ( 1 mg cut)

10:15 pm sleep woke a couple time and easily fell back to sleep for 9 hours.

[Altostrata]

Do you feel any change in your sleep pattern?

[Freeby60]

8 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Do you feel any change in your sleep pattern?

I was just thinking about this myself. I am still mostly pretty dead to the world and sleeping 9 hours nightly. The main observation after the cuts is that I feel less medicated when I wake up. But the cuts don’t seem to effect my sleeping pattern, except the first night after cut, when I am aware of waking and falling back to  sleep quickly.  

[Altostrata]

The plan to decrease quetiapine appears to be working okay.

[Freeby60]

Yes, I agree!!

[Freeby60]

12/24

8:30 am - wake with no anxiety 

9:15 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram 0.13 ml/0.13 mgs, Probiotic

1:00 pm - mild anxiety very short, nap tired

7:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

7:30 pm - soft palate spasm

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21.5 mgs 

10:45 pm - soft palate spasm

11:30 pm - sleep for 8.5 hrs - no changes 

[Freeby60]

12/25

8:00 am - wake, no anxiety & Merry XMas

8:15 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram 0.13 ml/0.13 mgs, Probiotic

No morning symptoms- very relaxed day for me.

2 pm - tongue movements

4 pm - soft palate spasm 2 x

6 pm - bit cheek hard while eating. Jaw is out of alignment when chewing occasionally. 

7:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

While unaware of it I must have spent the evening watching TV and chewing on the inside of my mouth. By the time I went to bed it was shredded. 

10:30 pm - took later than usual - Quetiapine fumarate 21.5 mgs 

11 pm sleep for 9 uninterrupted hours

[Freeby60]

8:00 am - wake, no anxiety

8:15 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram 0.13 ml/0.13 mgs, Probiotic

No morning symptoms

4 pm - soft palate spasm 2 x

6 pm - rapid tongue movements while cleaning

7:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

Aware of tongue movements throughout evening

10 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21.5 mgs 

11 pm sleep for 9 uninterrupted hours

[Freeby60]

12/27

8 am wake no anxiety 

8:30 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram 0.13 ml/0.13 mgs, Probiotic

10:30 am- tongue movements when flossing

11 am - mild anxiety passed quickly

6:30 pm - mild anxiety passed quickly 

7:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

10 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21.5 mgs 

10:30 pm sleep for 9 uninterrupted hours

[Freeby60]

12/28

7:30 am wake no anxiety 

8:15 am Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram 0.13 ml/0.13 mgs, Probiotic

11:30 am mild anxious passes wit deep slow breathes

1:30 pm soft palate spasm

Missed Omegas, and magnesium chloride accidentally- never took. 

Visiting with family doing a lot of talking and aware of tongue movements 

10 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21.5 mgs 

10:30 pm sleep for 9 uninterrupted hours

[Altostrata]

Hi, @Freeby60Are you ready for another reduction in Seroquel?

[Freeby60]

45 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Hi, @Freeby60Are you ready for another reduction in Seroquel?

Yes, I am ready. Should I  do 10% of 21.5mg/21.5mg?

[Altostrata]

How about to 21mg, a reduction of 0.5mg? It's another holiday weekend. Best of the new year to you!

[Freeby60]

Sounds good! Best in the New Year to you too! Thank you for all you do 🙏🏻

[Freeby60]

12/29

7:30 am wake no anxiety 

8:15 am Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram 0.13 ml/0.13 mgs, Probiotic

2:30 pm soft palate spasm

Missed Omegas, and magnesium chloride accidentally- never took. 

Visiting with family doing a lot of talking and aware of tongue movements 

4:12 pm - soft palate spasm

5:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

6:10 pm - soft palate spasm

10 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21.5 mgs 

10:30 pm sleep 9 hours

[Freeby60]

12/30

7:30 am wake

8:15 am Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram 0.13 ml/0.13 mgs, Probiotic

8:30 am mild anxiety that passes 

11:30 am - soft palate spasm

5:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

9:30 pm - soft palate spasms x 2

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21 mgs 

11 pm sleep uninterrupted 9 hours

[Freeby60]

12/31

8 am - wake with no anxiety 

8:15 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

12 pm - soft palate spasm

3:09 pm - soft palate spasm

 

I did a bit of afternoon singing. The soft palate spasmed periodically throughout about an hour of singing. First I’ve noticed that.

 

5:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

6:00 pm - sucking on lips

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21 mgs

11 pm - sleep 10 uninterrupted hours

[Freeby60]

1/1/22

9 am - wake, no symptoms 

9:15 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

10:30 am - periodic soft palate spasm

3:00 pm - nap due to malaise and fatigue 

5:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

6:00 pm - sucking on lips

7:00 pm - jaw and tongue movements 

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21 mgs

11 pm - sleep 8 hours awaken once and fall back to sleep easily 

[Freeby60]

1/2/22

7 am - wake, no symptoms, good mood

9:15 am - Duloxetine 60 mgs, Clonazepam 0.5, Escitalopram .13 ml/13 mgs, Probiotic

10:45 am - anxiety passed with slow deep breathing (I utilize deep breathing when it feels a touch intense so it won’t escalate). 

4:00 pm - weepy, low mood.

5:30 pm- omegas, magnesium chloride 1000 mgs

7:00 pm - jaw and tongue movements, lip sucking

7:45pm - soft palate spasm x2

9:30 pm - Quetiapine fumarate 21 mgs

11 pm - sleep 8.5 hrs uninterrupted 

 

[Altostrata]

3 hours ago, Freeby60 said:

10:45 am - anxiety passed with slow deep breathing (I utilize deep breathing when it feels a touch intense so it won’t escalate). 

4:00 pm - weepy, low mood.

 

Good job managing the anxiety. Does these episodes happen every day?

[Freeby60]

8 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Does these episodes happen every day?

 

Thanks  No, fortunately, they don't. When I was tapering the Lex, they would also occur periodically. They don't tend to concern me, unless they continue and then I'll consider a hold. Nothing like this so far today (it's now 1:30 pm)

[Altostrata]

Okay. I'm concerned about the batch of drugs you take in the morning, but it's important that you concentrate on reducing quetiapine. That looks likes it's going well.

[Freeby60]

1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

Okay. I'm concerned about the batch of drugs you take in the morning, but it's important that you concentrate on reducing quetiapine. That looks likes it's going well.

I’ve been on drugs for so long that my emotional ups and downs, need for naps from fatigue or malaise have become my background in front of which I try to function like a human being every day. Listening to symptoms on a daily basis has become an enlightening experience. I always saw these episodes as related to wd, even when it didn’t make sense. But that is one overwhelming drug cocktail- I realize now that they’ve  been run through the drug checker. It’s been so many years - living inside this chemical reality. 

[Freeby60]

7 minutes ago, Freeby60 said:

but it's important that you concentrate on reducing quetiapine. That looks likes it's going well.

Yes, it is. I am cautiously optimistic:)