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Anybody have obsessive thinking about existential, philosophical questions? I dont think about bad violent stuff happening to me, it's more abstract stuff. 

 

I know everyone has their own flavor of things their brain latches on to but...

 

I dont want to know exactly WHAT u obsess about i just want to know that i'm not alone and that it's just a symptom

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Yes it seems to be a withdrawal symptom.  Other members have described the same type of thing happen to them.

 

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Looks like I'm pulling out of this particular wave. Not fully recovered but the storm has mostly passed.  I've really stepped up my meditation practice and mindfulness practice. Therapists seem sto think I had a problem with alcohol as well. Haven't drank since mid september. giving up things is difficult. It's like ending a relationship.

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

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3 hours ago, MRothbard said:

how long was your wave...

 

...at the roughly 6 month mark. The one I'm in started around the first of October.

 

 

I've moved the above post to the existing topic discussing windows and waves.

 

There are many existing topics on SA.  Please use search to see if there is one before creating a new topic.  Thank you.

 

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Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

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Thought I was coming out of this crap. Felt pretty good about three days ago. Then the Christmas sugar binge took it's toll. I was actually able to doze in and out of sleep in the morning for a dew days. Now I've got the morning heebie jeebies again.

 

So damn frustrating. Why can't I just feel normal? Why is my body so damn sensitive?

 

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September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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As ChessieCat posted, it's going to be up and down, windows and waves, one day good, the next bad.  That's the nature of recovery from psychiatric drugs.  

 

The slightest bit of sugar gives me a surge of anxiety.   

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg

Taper is 91% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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On 12/29/2018 at 3:12 PM, MRothbard said:

****. Thought I was coming out of this crap. Felt pretty good about three days ago. Then the Christmas sugar binge took it's toll. I was actually able to doze in and out of sleep in the morning for a dew days. Now I've got the morning heebie jeebies again.

 

So damn frustrating. Why can't I just feel normal? Why is my body so damn sensitive?

 

 

I also feel bad from sugar although it's more a big downer and/or a headache rather than the anxiety everyone else has.

 

give yourself time, that's what you need: more time.  things are getting better.  are you still not drinking? 

Currently taking Ramapril (blood pressure) 5 mg twice a day

Omeprazole 10 mg AM and 20 mg PM  (the taper has gone nowhere after the first cut)

Famotidine   once a day (and I still needs tums sometimes)

magnesium 200 mg at night

as of yesterday 2 fish oil capsules "EPA-DHA 1000"

 

off Lexapro as of 5/2018  - last dose had been 5 mg every other day for a couple years

 

highest dose had been 20 mg at which point I was diagnosed with Bipolar II, which went away when I cut the lexapro down to 15 mg. 

 

I spent years on Paxil before Lexapro (can't remember dose), briefly on Effexor and Abilify and others I have forgotten. in fact, when I was diagnoses with BPII I was put on all kinds of things which made me feel so bad I stopped them cold turkey within maybe 3 or 4 weeks, thank goodness. since then I've known these pills were terrible and I weaned down the Lexapro with zero help or support over I'm not sure how many years. 

 

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Haven't drank since September 15. God I hope your right about time. I've lost my spark. I don't have that "bring it on" attitude about life today. Haven't had it for a couple months now. I'm scared. I feel like God is not listening. I need to know I will emerge from this suffering better than before. Or at least ok with being ok.

 

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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I guess they've gotten better. Sometimes it feels they've just gotten different. 

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August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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Gradually feeling better. Still have hints of anxiety in the morning and the sads in late afternoon. Many questions about life swimming around in my head. Wish they werent but they're there.

 

Thanks everyone for listening these past few months

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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SO I'm coming up on a year of being off Lexapro. This has been without a doubt, the most difficult thing I have ever done. Would I have rather done a tour of duty in Afghanistan than had to deal with this? Maybe. It's  a lot like going to war.

 

For me symptoms didn't really start coming on strong until I was almost 6 months off Lexapro. is that weird? The worst symptoms seem to have passed major obsessive thoughts about life/death/existence couple with very intense anxiety. I still have very intense anxiety and fearful thoughts and depression popping up in between.

 

When it's bad I think I have to change up my whole life. Move away, find a better job, but I know it's just the withdrawal talking.

 

Quit drinking for good last September. Shortly after that is when withdrawal really kicked in. Maybe I should have kept drinking???

 

Anyway, I guess I'd just like some assurance that the way I feel now is not my baseline and things will continue to get better.

 

Thanks everyone.

 

 

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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This is not your baseline.  What you are reporting sounds pretty typical for post-zero withdrawal.  

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg

Taper is 91% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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WTF???? So frustrated. I really thought I was done with all of this about two weeks ago. Felt great. Serene. But Felt like I had gotten fat and out of shape over the last  6 months so I started working out again last week. Now i'm having the morning anxiety and afternoon "oh my God my life sucks I have to change everything" show which lasts from about 3 to 6pm. 

 

Guess it's back to being a delicate flower. Not easy to accept for a guy who'd like to see himself as capable, confident and up for the challenge.

 

F***!!!

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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Lately I've ben experiencing pain in the front of my neck, or that lump in your throat feeling you get when you're about to cry. Anyone else get this? what did you do about it?

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August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

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On 5/15/2019 at 4:52 AM, MRothbard said:

Lately I've ben experiencing pain in the front of my neck, or that lump in your throat feeling you get when you're about to cry. Anyone else get this? what did you do about it?

On 11/14/2018 at 11:39 PM, MRothbard said:

Anybody have obsessive thinking about existential, philosophical questions? I dont think about bad violent stuff happening to me, it's more abstract stuff. 

 

 

Sally Brampton's memoir of her depression (where she was aggressively polydrugged with venlafaxine, benzos and TCAs to the point where she couldn't walk or see, had two hospitalisations and spent 3-4 years in withdrawal) says one of her constant and most distressing symptoms was what she called the 'throat monster'. Its medical name is globus hystericus. Despite initial skepticism she said she found acupuncture very helpful. I think she said she needed occasional top ups for it to disappear entirely. She was by that point close to fully recovered though and it was one of her few remaining symptoms. It might be worth a shot? 

 

During my initial withdrawal from Sertraline  and later Mirtazapine, i was obsessed with the "true" nature of emotions, how could they both be chemicals (ie serotonin) and subjective feelings (a really stupid question, like asking 'how can i have a brain and be thinking?' ). It drove me insane thoigh i felt like a robot and it felt like it pretty much 'broke' my brain overthinking it all. What I call the wall or brick in my head feeling dates from that time. It felt like my mind was in two or three pieces. Its mostly just dissolved into a very intense dissociative brain fog these days. My subjective reality feels 'whole' which os a relief (or at least it would be, but y'know anhedonia! ).  You're not alone in ruminating on pointless stuff if that helps. 

Citalopram. Briefly early twenties, no ill effects seemingly. Don't remember dose.

 

Sertraline on and off for ten years.  I was ignorant and started and stopped frequently. Doses of 50, 75 and 100. I can not recall/did not record dates prior to 2018.

 

JANUARY 2018: Last period of use was was 150mg of sertraline on 14/01/18  (which triggered extreme depression and anxiety that never settled, amongst other symptoms). I then tapered to 100mg in March (15/03/18), then down to 75mg in April(01/04/18) , 50mg later (11/04/18) 25mg in May  (16/05/18),  and was at 0mg in June (02/06/18).

 

Mirtazapine 15mg 01/08/18- 02/10/18, 15mg (6 weeks at 15mg the two week taper). - caused deeply unpleasant waves of extreme anxiety, depression, zombie state and mania.

 

Still on 40mg of Propranolol twice a day since April 2018. Supplements: Fish oil, Magnesium, Vit B6

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How long does it take you to feel an effect from sugar? Ive cut out caffeine and alcohol but still binge (two or three bars) on chocolate three or four times a week. 

Citalopram. Briefly early twenties, no ill effects seemingly. Don't remember dose.

 

Sertraline on and off for ten years.  I was ignorant and started and stopped frequently. Doses of 50, 75 and 100. I can not recall/did not record dates prior to 2018.

 

JANUARY 2018: Last period of use was was 150mg of sertraline on 14/01/18  (which triggered extreme depression and anxiety that never settled, amongst other symptoms). I then tapered to 100mg in March (15/03/18), then down to 75mg in April(01/04/18) , 50mg later (11/04/18) 25mg in May  (16/05/18),  and was at 0mg in June (02/06/18).

 

Mirtazapine 15mg 01/08/18- 02/10/18, 15mg (6 weeks at 15mg the two week taper). - caused deeply unpleasant waves of extreme anxiety, depression, zombie state and mania.

 

Still on 40mg of Propranolol twice a day since April 2018. Supplements: Fish oil, Magnesium, Vit B6

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Sometimes about 20 mins after sugar i'll get heart palpatations. That hasnt happened in a while though. Or ill get a high off it and then a small crash. Nothing like caffeine though.

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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How are you doing, mr?

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On 6/16/2019 at 1:28 PM, Altostrata said:

How are you doing, mr?

Thanks for asking Alto. Currently waving. I was having a nice window and actually thought i was done with withdrawal. So i started to pile on the stress--working out every day, drinking a little caffeine, thinking about quitting my job. Staying up late. And of course it caught up. 

 

Went on vacation this past week and tried my best to have a good time. I did for the most part but more caffeine, sugary treats and a two mile hike up a mountain made things worse. 

 

I am so frustrated with this. And scared. 

 

So do we trigger these waves? Would it have not come had i been more careful?

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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You're probably going to have to swear off caffeine and sugar for quite a while, and attend more to a regular sleep schedule.

 

Hang in there, let your nervous system settle.

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Need to vent and ask a question or two.

 

Can't seem to be objective anymore. Sometimes when I'm at work I think, "Holy **** I need to get the **** outta here. I'm anxious and really work up a good hatred for the people above me. When I step back and think about it, I know that it isn't awful, but I still have the feelings of intense anger, resentment and anxiety. Is it Neuro-emotions or should i look for another job? I really don't want to work when I'm feeling this way but I have to. I do think maybe it's time to move on but I get so stressed thinking about it and then I have an emotion hangover for the next week! I wish I could see the benefits of this job and just go with it. I think when I'm in a wave I decide my circumstances are the cause of the feelings instead of accepting that I just feel that way right now and the reason is withdrawal.

 

Thoughts anyone?

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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It's normal to feel that way about people you work with especially if your in one of those 'upstart' companies full of back stabbing brown nosers. You know the people who smile to your face and then undermine you or report you to HR the first chance they get. I know during withdrawal i have WAY less tolerance for peoples crap. But then again maybe i was never tolerant anyway. Fortunately my management is pretty good.

Paroxatine - 2004-2006

Effexor XR 75mg 2006 - 2016 (Discontinued Feb 2016) - Withdrawal for 6 months.

Effexor XR 75mg Re-instated June 2017 (Discontinued Dec 2017)

Effexor XR 2-3 mg Re-instated March 10 2018 - 1 day (Didn't work)

Effexor XR 2mg Reinstated (Again) May 11 2018. 6 Beads

July 2018 - 0.0mg of Effexor. Zilch

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I work at a university. There isn't a lot of backstabbing. there are too many bosses and too much work.

September 2014 to July 2015 - 20 mg Lexapro, 30mg Mirtazipine

 

August 2015 to November 2016- 10mg Lexapro, 30 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2016 to Nov. 2017 - 10mg Lexapro, 3.75 mg Mirtazipine

 

Nov. 2017 to Mach 2018 - 5mg/2.5mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

 

Mach 2018 to Dec. 2018 - 0mg Lexapro, 0mg Mirtazipne

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@MRothbard, how are you doing?

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Hi, @MRothbard,

 

we would all like to know how are You doing lately, please reach out

 

Wishing You a lifelong window!

V.

 

Duloxetine 2016/17 - 30/60mg/30mg, c/t, light WD.

Sertraline June 2019 50mg ADR

Clorazepate June 2019 20-15-10mg for 3 weeks then sparsely until 2022, 2 times per month max and very low dose (5mg)

Clorazepate Jan2022 10mg 5 days 2,5mg 2 days then off

Venlafaxine June 2019 75mg ADR, 17,5mg, titrated to 37,5mg

Venlafaxine Jan 2022 Covid, hard ADR on 37,5mg, reduced to 20mg ADR, tried ct, crash,

Venlafaxine 22Jan22 reinstated 9,4mg, too low/ 01Feb22- 12mg/ 12Feb- 11,25mg/ 16Feb- 11mg/ 20Feb- 10,8mg/ 24Feb22-10,575mg/ 16Mar22- 10,46mg/ 26Mar22- 10,35mg/ 26Apr22- 10mg/ 01Oct- 9,9mg/ 13Nov- 9,7mg

01Jan24-7,5mg

MAR24

Due to another sudden intolerance had to fast taper venlafaxine to 1,14mg 

Seems like all of this time I was in benzo withdrawal, because when I took it now in desperation to help it made me feel worse, tried reinstatement first 1mg, then 0,05mg both made me feel worse.

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