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Frogie
17 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Thanks Frogie, I hope it all works out, I really do.

 

Well done on losing all that weight, and yes your fiancé has done really well.

 

Onwards and upwards....

 

TC JC xx

 

P.S looking forward to being in the garden, lol. It’s also hubby’s and my 10th wedding anniversary tomorrow.

It will work out . You are meant to be in a better place.

 

Happy Anniversary! Enjoy your day!

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

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Scorpio

Hi jc

sorry about the redundancy but I’m sure it will be better for you to find a job you will enjoy without feeling threatened at times. Nothing worse than constantly being made to feel insecure. 

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Junglechicken
3 hours ago, Scorpio said:

Hi jc

sorry about the redundancy but I’m sure it will be better for you to find a job you will enjoy without feeling threatened at times. Nothing worse than constantly being made to feel insecure. 

Hugs

 

Thanks Scorpio, and how right you are!

 

I was feeling depressed again 😢

 

Hugs

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Flowers

Hi JC

 

How are you?  Belated Happy Anniversary!

 

Just catching up as not been on here for a while.  Sorry to hear about your job but everything happens for a purpose. They say as one door closes another one opens and I hope you find somewhere you will be really happy.

 

Lots of love

 

Flowers xxx

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Junglechicken

Hi Flowers,

 

Thank you for the anniversary wishes 😀

 

Really glad to hear your op is finally out of the way.

 

Hmm, I just worked out that I was ACTUALLY made redundant due to my anxiety/depression.  

 

She told me after my 6 month review that the 3 month probation extension had nothing to do with my work performance and to “see it as a positive journey” and so it must be because she didn’t know how to handle someone with mental illness.

 

So SA’ers.....I warn you to be VERY cautious about telling your employers about mental illness or it will come back to haunt you.

 

i only revealed it at the time because I desperately needed the other guy removed to keep me sane for a bit longer.

 

Do you think there is a case for discrimination worth pursuing?  

 

Lots of love,

JC xxx

 

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apace41
4 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

Do you think there is a case for discrimination worth pursuing?  

 

JC,

 

These are VERY hard cases to prove even on the best of facts and since there is going to be no evidence (unless they are truly idiots and put it in writing) I would not see this as one I'd be willing to spend a lot of money on to be honest.

 

Best,

 

Andy

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Junglechicken
7 hours ago, apace41 said:

 

JC,

 

These are VERY hard cases to prove even on the best of facts and since there is going to be no evidence (unless they are truly idiots and put it in writing) I would not see this as one I'd be willing to spend a lot of money on to be honest.

 

Best,

 

Andy

 

Hey Andy,

 

I was talking to my husband about it this morning, and he said to put my energy into finding another job.

 

One of these days I'll write a book about how crazy life has been...………………….

 

I hope you're well on your way to recovery after your hip replacement Andy, and thank you for chiming in.

 

Best,

 

JC

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Junglechicken

I also discovered at the end of the last week, that "said" manager had given me THE WORST PDR review ("below expectation").

 

There were NO 121's, and it had all been done without my knowledge, accept for the extremely unfair addition of another 3 months to my already 6 month probation period.

 

Have been furious ever since.  HR and my manager's manager have been unwilling to provide any comment on it.

 

AND have injured my ITB so am now incapacitated and cannot attend the 121 this week to discuss potential re-deployment roles.  On Sunday morning I passed out due to the pain, and hit my head.  Got checked over, all ok BUT just more unwanted drama.

 

Really painful, and took hours to find a bearable sleeping position last night.

 

NOT a happy chicken.

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Junglechicken

Life not so bad....

 

Encouraged to have 3 interviews lined up, and lots of positive feedback re: my work experience.

 

Enjoying taking the summer off (“gardening leave”), and consider this to be an “opportunity”.

 

My brother and family are over in the UK and arrive at our place this evening.

 

Tomorrow is a tree planting ceremony to celebrate Dad’s amazing life.  Apprehensive as we will also be scattering his ashes.

 

Wishing everyone one continued healing.

 

JC xx

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Frogie
5 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Life not so bad....

 

Encouraged to have 3 interviews lined up, and lots of positive feedback re: my work experience.

 

Enjoying taking the summer off (“gardening leave”), and consider this to be an “opportunity”.

 

My brother and family are over in the UK and arrive at our place this evening.

 

Tomorrow is a tree planting ceremony to celebrate Dad’s amazing life.  Apprehensive as we will also be scattering his ashes.

 

Wishing everyone one continued healing.

 

JC xx

HI JC:

 

So good to hear you are doing well.

 

I will keep my fingers crossed on the job interviews.

 

Have fun with the family, make your dad a celebration!

 

Good to hear from you.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Junglechicken

Bless you Frogie, thank you!

 

I hope you guys are about to move back to civilisation, lol?!

 

Yes, tomorrow is going to be a big day 🌳

 

TC,

JC xx

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Frogie
Just now, Junglechicken said:

Bless you Frogie, thank you!

 

I hope you guys are about to move back to civilisation, lol?!

 

Yes, tomorrow is going to be a big day 🌳

 

TC,

JC xx

The packers come on the 2nd and movers on the 3rd, so not long now!

 

Tomorrow will be a big day, but remember the good times and you will do fine.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Junglechicken

Bless you Frogie, thank you!

 

I hope you guys are about to move back to civilisation, lol?!

 

Yes, tomorrow is going to be a big day 🌳

 

TC,

JC xx

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Junglechicken

That’s brilliant news Frogie 😊

 

When you look back on what you lived through all those months of tapering etc., and being far away from family....can you laugh about it, or is it just a distant memory now?

 

 

 

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Frogie
2 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Bless you Frogie, thank you!

 

I hope you guys are about to move back to civilisation, lol?!

 

Yes, tomorrow is going to be a big day 🌳

 

TC,

JC xx

Looks like both our lives are coming together.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Frogie
1 minute ago, Junglechicken said:

That’s brilliant news Frogie 😊

 

When you look back on what you lived through all those months of tapering etc., and being far away from family....can you laugh about it, or is it just a distant memory now?

 

 

 

It's far from a distant memory. But I'm tapering Xanax now, so I'm not done yet.

 

I do laugh more than I used to. And you?

 

 I hope this nightmare can be a memory when I'm done with the Xanax.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Guilietta

Hello Jungle Chicken - sorry to learn of your discrimination at work. I have been there twice myself. The last time was in was in 12/2015 (at a CRO - supports drug company clinical trials). After struggling to meet performance expectatations overall - I had to declare my situation. They could not accommodate and I had offered to do part of my job for much less money! Even though I kept all the documentation I could - a disability lawyer said that my case would be extremely hard to prove - would likely drag on for 3 years and I'd benefit little (he has had personal experience with cases such as mine). This would also have been more stress than I could manage. 

 

Like you - I had life experiences which triggered two incidents of anxiety and depression - one about 15 years ago - and one back in 2015). Both involved both job and personal relationship issues. I have been on social disability and I am thankful I am. I live with my family - and I am thankful I am - even though it is often hard for me and for them. I am starting to look for work after having had a tough 7 months on my taper.

 

I wish you the very best.

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Junglechicken

Hi Guilietta,

 

Thank you for stopping by.

 

Fortunately, the situation turned around for the better.

 

I put pressure on the Director of HR for answers, and had my PDR rating amended.  This affects my “scoring” for a favourable re-deployment as opposed to “exit”.

 

Am sorry to Hesse that you’ve been through this too.  Yes, these types of discriminatory situations are very difficult to prove.

 

If this was indeed the case, I didn’t let them get away with it.  

 

Take care

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Guilietta

In the US the Americans with Disabilities Act is something without much teeth, sorry to say. To add insult to injury - at the same time - the company laid off more than 500 employees. They all got some kind of severance package. I got zilch. It took me 3 months of battle with HR to get a very modest financial compensation, which I desperately needed. How do these people sleep at night. 😕

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Junglechicken

Hi everyone,

 

It's been a LONG time since I last did an update, and a very busy few months.

 

Survived a very unpleasant redundancy period.  Not going to go into details, but needless to say, the manager (female) tried to screw me over 😠. However, she didn't get away with it.

 

Multiple interviews later, I landed 3 contracts! One of which hit the spot salary and career-wise 👍 It took 12 years to get "there".

 

I badly injured my left hip-flexor shortly after I received notification of my role being "at risk". This was beginning of July.  Spent a whole day digging spuds in high temperatures, also badly sun burnt my lower back.  It's taken the whole summer (at the gym and doing stretch classes) to strengthen those muscles.  Wonder if WD has anything to do with it?

 

Had the coil fitted a couple of months ago too, to help with hormonal "issues".

 

Went on a lovely vacation to Sicily in September.  Awesome island! Would go there, and back to the Aeolian Islands ANY time 😃

 

20 months after losing my wonderful father, I'm still grieving badly.  I wake up in the middle of the night sobbing. Can't enjoy things fully.  Woke up on holiday sobbing.  It seems as though much of my life is pointless as I can't share things with him, like I used to.  He would have been happy for me about my new job, unlike my mother who doesn't know anything about it.

 

We attended the funeral of an old family friend back in June.  He was my honorary uncle, as I wasn't close to either of my blood relative uncles. Feeling that loss particularly deeply too 😭

 

Hubby and I are in couples therapy dealing with "stuff".  We've each been in individual therapy for about 3 yrs.  Therapy just feels never ending. We are lucky to be able to have it really.  I think if my mother had had it (had the inclination to go), she wouldn't be an alcoholic/anorexic/narcissist?????

 

Anyway, preparing myself for a new chapter.  We have been having our house painted, and are gradually getting things fixed / improved.

 

There is a mixture of good and bad news I guess.

 

Wish I could enjoy life more, I turn 45 on Thursday! 

 

Hugs to you all,

 

JC

Xx

 

 

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Scorpio

Hi jc]

 

wow brilliant that you have now got the job you really want and I wish you every success and happiness with it. The holiday sounds wonderful and I wish you many more now w/d is behind you. 
as for grief there is no time frame and it effects us all differently. I know with my mum I was so sad for such a long time and even now 13 years on I still miss her and think of her every day. But it does get easier and the happy memories replace the all encompassing sadness. 
It sounds like you are doing really well, even with aches and pains that spring from nowhere but you are living a full life which is wonderful. 
hugs

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Junglechicken
4 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

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Love it Scorpio, thank you 😍

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Junglechicken
18 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

Hi jc]

 

wow brilliant that you have now got the job you really want and I wish you every success and happiness with it. The holiday sounds wonderful and I wish you many more now w/d is behind you. 
as for grief there is no time frame and it effects us all differently. I know with my mum I was so sad for such a long time and even now 13 years on I still miss her and think of her every day. But it does get easier and the happy memories replace the all encompassing sadness. 
It sounds like you are doing really well, even with aches and pains that spring from nowhere but you are living a full life which is wonderful. 
hugs

 

Yes, it's fair to say I can do MUCH more than I used to.

 

I'm not weighed down by fear, panic attacks, anxiety related symptoms.  These days it's crazy hormones!

 

I really appreciate your insight to grief too.  I have yet to accept Dad's death, and still have difficulty processing that it actually happened.

 

It will help to have the "lucky" silver dollar he gave me after his diagnosis (he used to carry it around in his pocket with the rest of his change) made into a pendant.

 

Hugs Scorpio xx

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Junglechicken

Hi SA friends,

 

Happy New Year to you all.

 

Well, life was going along ok, and then 4 days ago, I think I hit the 18 month mark of being off Lexapro. 

 

Brass identified that around 18 months, protracted WD is likely to hit as a wave.

 

Over the last 3-4 days I haven't felt well and have experienced:

 

Chills/fatigue/migraine/headaches/IBS - gut issues/nausea/dizziness/appetite loss/depression

 

I'm just battling through it, and accepting that my body is in need of something that isn't there any more?

 

Anyway, thinking of you all, and I'll provide updates on how this goes.

 

Take care,

 

JC xxx

 

 

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Junglechicken

To quote Brass as I think this is a brilliant reminder:

 

"Personal experience is what makes up the "database" that we are building here at SA. We have "facts" in the form of what has actually happened to people with a variety of treatments and procedures.  Because of this SA has grown from a small peer support group to one of the leading authorities in the world for ADWD and related treatments.  Opinions, theories and hearsay are fine as far as they go, but personal experience is still the best source of information we can get and what we want to work with."

 

I wouldn't still be here if it wasn't for SA, its moderators, and those of us sharing our experiences of the horrors of these drugs.  

 

I'll be eternally grateful for SA enabling me to reclaim most of my life, being able to earn money again, leave the house, be fairly social and travel.

 

SA was my lifeline to coming back from the dead (literally).

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Frogie
3 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

Hi SA friends,

 

Happy New Year to you all.

 

Well, life was going along ok, and then 4 days ago, I think I hit the 18 month mark of being off Lexapro. 

 

Brass identified that around 18 months, protracted WD is likely to hit as a wave.

 

Over the last 3-4 days I haven't felt well and have experienced:

 

Chills/fatigue/migraine/headaches/IBS - gut issues/nausea/dizziness/appetite loss/depression

 

I'm just battling through it, and accepting that my body is in need of something that isn't there any more?

 

Anyway, thinking of you all, and I'll provide updates on how this goes.

 

Take care,

 

JC xxx

 

 

Hi JC!

 

 I have been thinking of you and wondering how you were doing. You must have been doing ok, you haven’t been on. 
 

Sorry to hear you’ve hit a wave. But at lest you’re able to push through it and get along with life.

 

Are you still working? In spite of everything, how are you doing overall?

 

 I’m on my last taper. Xanax, and it’s not fun. Anxiety, tears and just don’t feel normal. But I’m 1/2 done, so onward I go. We finally moved. It’s wonderful. And I got a new fur baby. She’s a sweetie.

 

Great to hear from you. Keep me posted how you’re doing. I’ve missed talking to you❤️
 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

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Junglechicken
49 minutes ago, Frogie said:

Hi JC!

 

 I have been thinking of you and wondering how you were doing. You must have been doing ok, you haven’t been on. 
 

Sorry to hear you’ve hit a wave. But at lest you’re able to push through it and get along with life.

 

Are you still working? In spite of everything, how are you doing overall?

 

 I’m on my last taper. Xanax, and it’s not fun. Anxiety, tears and just don’t feel normal. But I’m 1/2 done, so onward I go. We finally moved. It’s wonderful. And I got a new fur baby. She’s a sweetie.

 

Great to hear from you. Keep me posted how you’re doing. I’ve missed talking to you❤️
 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

 

Hey Frogie,

 

Great to hear from you my friend ☺️

 

Yes, I was doing pretty well up until now, but I didn't think I was "off the hook".

 

I think protracted WD can hit at any time following cessation of taking these drugs.  There seems to be a pattern of being hit by a wave 10-18 months out.

 

Work has been going well, and my exercise regime has changed to stretching, Pilates, gym (elliptical trainer and 10 mins on running machine).  No, I'm not skinny, nor have I lost loads of weight.  Doing the above is to help me feel good.

 

Congrats on your fur baby Frogie! Animals are wonderful therapists in their own right.  Also, congrats on surviving all those years in the sticks (and in WD), and for making it back to civilization in one piece!!!

 

WD is brutal, my brain feels as though it is haemorrhaging..... horrible pressure headaches....the last time I experienced similar was when I was in WD 5 yrs ago.  I'm not a headachey person either.

 

The gut issues are the other clue that it is WD, as seratonin WD and the brain/gut connection go hand in hand.

 

Looks like I'll be back here more often.  I'm better able to cope with this than I was 3 yrs ago.

 

Hugs Frogie, and well done on the progress you have made with your Xanax taper 👍

 

JC xxx

 

 

 

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Junglechicken
7 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Hey Frogie,

 

Great to hear from you my friend ☺️

 

Yes, I was doing pretty well up until now, but I didn't think I was "off the hook".

 

I think protracted WD can hit at any time following cessation of taking these drugs.  There seems to be a pattern of being hit by a wave 10-18 months out.

 

Work has been going well, and my exercise regime has changed to stretching, Pilates, gym (elliptical trainer and 10 mins on running machine).  No, I'm not skinny, nor have I lost loads of weight.  Doing the above is to help me feel good.

 

Congrats on your fur baby Frogie! Animals are wonderful therapists in their own right.  Also, congrats on surviving all those years in the sticks (and in WD), and for making it back to civilization in one piece!!!

 

WD is brutal, my brain feels as though it is haemorrhaging..... horrible pressure headaches....the last time I experienced similar was when I was in WD 5 yrs ago.  I'm not a headachey person either.

 

The gut issues are the other clue that it is WD, as seratonin WD and the brain/gut connection go hand in hand.

 

Looks like I'll be back here more often.  I'm better able to cope with this than I was 3 yrs ago.

 

Hugs Frogie, and well done on the progress you have made with your Xanax taper 👍

 

JC xxx

 

 

 

 

P.S Forgot to mention other symptoms including jet engine loud tinnitus, feeling weak and not wanting or able to do much.  Feeling unsteady on feet (swaying boat sensation).

 

My gut issues have eased off after 4 days thankfully.

 

The chills were horrible.  Needed a blanket around me and a hot water bottle on my stomach for the gut issues.

 

Had to have a snooze during the day as fatigued and freezing cold.

 

No painkillers required for this WD.

 

 

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manny03

Hey, Jungle! 

 

I feel you! I just went through a similar wave ( didn't have G.I. issues or chills) but had the rest of the symptoms you've described after getting the seasonal cold from my aunt during the holidays. I can't believe we might have to live with this for a while until our nervous systems finally get back in-sync. 

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Junglechicken
10 hours ago, manny03 said:

Hey, Jungle! 

 

I feel you! I just went through a similar wave ( didn't have G.I. issues or chills) but had the rest of the symptoms you've described after getting the seasonal cold from my aunt during the holidays. I can't believe we might have to live with this for a while until our nervous systems finally get back in-sync. 

 

Hey Manny,

 

Thanks for stopping by, and sorry to hear you've been "hit" by a wave too.

 

Your last dose was July 2018, so I guess that's the 16 month mark?

 

Keep on truck'in, that's all we can do.  It tests our sanity and inner strength for sure.

 

Hugs,

JC xx

 

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5 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Hey Manny,

 

Thanks for stopping by, and sorry to hear you've been "hit" by a wave too.

 

Your last dose was July 2018, so I guess that's the 16 month mark?

 

Keep on truck'in, that's all we can do.  It tests our sanity and inner strength for sure.

 

Hugs,

JC xx

 

Hey!  

 

You're right, Jungle!  I'm at 16/17 month mark.

 

I agree. These symptoms do get scary as the time passes by, then suddenly go away, giving you the false sense of hope that you're out of it, then when you push yourself or get sick, they come back. :(  Like in my case, I had a brain tumor freak out with this latest wave. Went to two MDs, they did neuro exams and found nothing.  

 

Though, you're right,  in the end, we have to keep on truck'in. 

 

Hugs. 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, manny03 said:

Hey!  

 

You're right, Jungle!  I'm at 16/17 month mark.

 

I agree. These symptoms do get scary as the time passes by, then suddenly go away, giving you the false sense of hope that you're out of it, then when you push yourself or get sick, they come back. :(  Like in my case, I had a brain tumor freak out with this latest wave. Went to two MDs, they did neuro exams and found nothing.  

 

Though, you're right,  in the end, we have to keep on truck'in. 

 

Hugs. 

 

 

 

 

Yes, those WD headaches definitely feel as though we have a brain tumour or equally serious condition.  Extremely unpleasant.

 

My headaches have eased off, as have the gut issues......for now 🤔

 

I'm wondering if mine were triggered by pushing my body too hard (elliptical machine - 40 mins, running machine - 10 mins).

 

We can't predict, although if I pushed it too hard a few years ago, I would have a wave without question as my NS couldn't take it.

 

Hugs

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Yes, those WD headaches definitely feel as though we have a brain tumour or equally serious condition.  Extremely unpleasant.

 

My headaches have eased off, as have the gut issues......for now 🤔

 

I'm wondering if mine were triggered by pushing my body too hard (elliptical machine - 40 mins, running machine - 10 mins).

 

We can't predict, although if I pushed it too hard a few years ago, I would have a wave without question as my NS couldn't take it.

 

Hugs

 

 

 

Interesting. Seems I'm not the only one.

 

I began to push myself late November with a mile, then mile and half, and 2 mile runs, or doing uphill runs in the mountains that brought on the onset with my latest wave, which became worse with the seasonal cold. 

 

Like you, my symptoms have been calming down.  Though, I haven't run for almost two weeks while I nurse this cold. I've just done normal 5-6 mile hikes which didn't trigger anything. 

 

Perhaps, we might have to ease in on the workouts. With me, just keep it at mile run, do hikes and do more weights or body weight training, and be careful with my diet.  

 

  

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23 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Hey Frogie,

 

Great to hear from you my friend ☺️

 

Yes, I was doing pretty well up until now, but I didn't think I was "off the hook".

 

I think protracted WD can hit at any time following cessation of taking these drugs.  There seems to be a pattern of being hit by a wave 10-18 months out.

 

Work has been going well, and my exercise regime has changed to stretching, Pilates, gym (elliptical trainer and 10 mins on running machine).  No, I'm not skinny, nor have I lost loads of weight.  Doing the above is to help me feel good.

 

Congrats on your fur baby Frogie! Animals are wonderful therapists in their own right.  Also, congrats on surviving all those years in the sticks (and in WD), and for making it back to civilization in one piece!!!

 

WD is brutal, my brain feels as though it is haemorrhaging..... horrible pressure headaches....the last time I experienced similar was when I was in WD 5 yrs ago.  I'm not a headachey person either.

 

The gut issues are the other clue that it is WD, as seratonin WD and the brain/gut connection go hand in hand.

 

Looks like I'll be back here more often.  I'm better able to cope with this than I was 3 yrs ago.

 

Hugs Frogie, and well done on the progress you have made with your Xanax taper 👍

 

JC xxx

 

 

 

He JC!

 

 I’m glad you are able to accept that it is a wave at 18 months. You’ve learned the skills to do that.

 

 I’m sure mine is a wave at 10 months, but I’m handling it a lot better than I was even a year ago.

 

My Xanax taper is so much different than the Lexapro taper. I have tears, lots of anxiety and fear I’ll never get over it. I know I will but it’s the benzo brain playing tricks.

 

My new baby Delilah is awesome. She’ll never replace Brownie but she’s fun to have. But I forgot how much work puppies are lol...

 

 I did make it through WD in the sticks. It’s nice to be back in civilization, although there are restaurants and we were doing so well on our diet. We are back to work on it. Glad you go to the gym. I just can’t muster that right now but maybe at a later date.

 

It was so nice to see you back. I’ve missed you😊 Hope we can talk again soon.

 

Glad you’re doing so well other than the wave and you have a good job this time.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

 

 

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Hi @Junglechicken,

 

I saw on your earlier posts that you were dealing with GERD and throat issues related to it. What did you do to relieve it or even get rid of it? Was it withdrawal related and just went away with time? I've been dealing with GERD/ silent reflux for about a month and it has been awful. Eating is a struggle and I'm losing a lot of weight, even though I don't weight that much to begin with. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

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