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Hi I'm new to this site I've been on antidepressants for 25 years and off I have tried to take of myself off multiple antidepressants and always had bad withdrawal. Initially I tapered too fast which with because of my ignorance of tapering but now I have tapered off of the last 2 anti depressants which were effexor and celexa over a year to a year and a half with withdrawal after long tapers. I've been on 15mg of prozac for eleven weeks with no improvement. The doctor thinks it's too strong for me and wants to give me less but I think it's withdrawal. Went from 30 of Celexa to 5 in four weeks while also starting prozac per the MD'S suggestion. He said I would have no problem switching from one SSR to another.

I'm in hell and have already taken a leave of absence from work. I don't Want to take another big but it's so hard to function. Not sure if I should urge the MD to give me more prozac?? I'd love any advice or experience you can share.

Been on antidepressants for 25 yrs.

Started in 1990.

Been on serzone, paxil,effector and Celexa which has been for last 5 yrs.

Have tapered off everything with no success doing 1-2 year tapers. Withdrawal started this past Sept on 12mg after 1.5 years of taper.started on prozac and he did a 4 week taper off Celexa which restarted at 20mg.off Celexa now for 10 weeks.on prozac 15mg for last 10 weeks.also now on klonopin

.125mg 3x day and .25mg at night.

MD thinks prozac is too strong.

Been through w/d many times and this is it.

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HI Chickie, 

 

Welcome and thank you for filling out your signature block!  Could you perhaps clarify the sequence of events for us?

 

I am still a little confused though you filled in your signature.  

 

How long were you on Effexor and up to what dose?  How did you do the taper off?  You said you took one to two years to do so but how you did that would help the mods out.  Did you drop by increments of the pill dosages and then hold in between?  For instance, dropping down by 75 or 37.5 mg?  Did you jump off of 37.5 mg, the smallest dose available of Effexor?

 

How long after the jump from Effexor did you start Celexa?  Did you have WD from Effexor during the taper?  Did you have WD immediately after jumping off?

 

Did the Celexa help?  When you say withdrawal started at 12 mg of Celexa after tapering down over 1.5 years, what were your withdrawal symptoms?  What was the previous dosage?

 

Sorry for all the questions but I think this will help the mods better advise you.

 

You are one of the old-timers like me who have been on these meds 20+ years.  Our brains remodeled to take the drugs' actions into account, trying to restore homeostasis, and the longer we've been on the them, the more sluggish our systems seem to be to adapt back when cutting down.  Very frustrating, I know!

 

You've probably already been surfing around the site learning stuff, but I'll just give you some useful links to help if you haven't:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1024-why-taper-by-10-of-my-dosage/

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6036-why-taper-paper-demonstrates-importance-of-gradual-change-in-plasma-concentration/

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/603-what-is-withdrawal-syndrome/

 

I'm sure there are more that would be helpful but I don't want to overload you!

 

I don't know the answer about the Prozac but am wondering if your nervous system had adapted back as you tapered, and taking too much Prozac would definitely upset things if it is above and beyond where your nervous system healed to.  Basically you'd be having start up side effects of Prozac on top of Celexa withdrawal, and it is hard to tell the two apart sometimes.  I can see that you'd want to increase the Prozac in hopes that it would cancel all of this out, but unfortunately it very well may make symptoms worse because the start up side effects would get worse with more.  At least that's my reasoning!  So, your doctor may be doing right by you (for once! LOL!)

 

I'm sure a mod will be along shortly.

 

Again, I'm glad you found your way to SA!

 

SG

Started ADs back around 1995 after bad break-up, starting with Prozac.  Switched to Wellbutrin, and then to Effexor in 2002
Effexor XR 2002-2014 up to 225 mg at one point, down to 37.5 mg towards end but back up to 75 mg in 2014; now realize I had W/D as I dropped down, memory very poor about history.  Extreme emotions, poor concentration as I stepped back down, didn't connect the dots!
Summer 2014 reduced to 0 very quickly, was sick of anhedonia/sexual dysfunction due to meds, depression never controlled if not worse. Didn't recognize WD since symptoms built slowly (thought I had ADD! and menopausal on top of it), starting with severe sweats, very bad cog-fog and memory issues, culminating in weight loss, severe anxiety and depression, panic, severe apathy and insomnia by eight months off.  Saw p-doc who put me on Remeron, increased from 7.5 mg/day to 37.5 mg by May 22, 2015; still doing very badly though able to sleep.

June 1. 2015 Reinstated Effexor XR 37.5 mg, Remeron dropped to 30 mg PM. Immediate relief of symptoms, like nothing had ever happened!  Joined SA and began on advice of friend who recognized it was WD all along! Began tapering in July 2015.

Been tapering both meds ever since, focusing on one more than the other or doing no more than 5% of each per month.

12 mg Effexor and 5.8 mg Remeron (mirtazapine SolTabs to make a solution with OraPlus) as of 5/4/2017 

Update 3/14/18: 2.9 mg Remeron and 6 mg Effexor; 6/10/18:  2.6 mg Remeron and 4.9 mg Effexor

 

My intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9313-squirrellygirl-effexor-withdrawal-etc/page-2#entry196679

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Did the Celexa help?  When you say withdrawal started at 12 mg of Celexa after tapering down over 1.5 years, what were your withdrawal symptoms?  What was the previous dosage?

 

Yikes, that was a nonsensical question at the end!  Ignore that last one.  So you got down to 12 mg Celexa but had withdrawal, so is that when you reinstated to 20 mg? Then from 20 your doctor had you do a relatively fast taper off over 4 weeks while starting Prozac... is that correct?

 

Thanks!

SG

Started ADs back around 1995 after bad break-up, starting with Prozac.  Switched to Wellbutrin, and then to Effexor in 2002
Effexor XR 2002-2014 up to 225 mg at one point, down to 37.5 mg towards end but back up to 75 mg in 2014; now realize I had W/D as I dropped down, memory very poor about history.  Extreme emotions, poor concentration as I stepped back down, didn't connect the dots!
Summer 2014 reduced to 0 very quickly, was sick of anhedonia/sexual dysfunction due to meds, depression never controlled if not worse. Didn't recognize WD since symptoms built slowly (thought I had ADD! and menopausal on top of it), starting with severe sweats, very bad cog-fog and memory issues, culminating in weight loss, severe anxiety and depression, panic, severe apathy and insomnia by eight months off.  Saw p-doc who put me on Remeron, increased from 7.5 mg/day to 37.5 mg by May 22, 2015; still doing very badly though able to sleep.

June 1. 2015 Reinstated Effexor XR 37.5 mg, Remeron dropped to 30 mg PM. Immediate relief of symptoms, like nothing had ever happened!  Joined SA and began on advice of friend who recognized it was WD all along! Began tapering in July 2015.

Been tapering both meds ever since, focusing on one more than the other or doing no more than 5% of each per month.

12 mg Effexor and 5.8 mg Remeron (mirtazapine SolTabs to make a solution with OraPlus) as of 5/4/2017 

Update 3/14/18: 2.9 mg Remeron and 6 mg Effexor; 6/10/18:  2.6 mg Remeron and 4.9 mg Effexor

 

My intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9313-squirrellygirl-effexor-withdrawal-etc/page-2#entry196679

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Tapering Trazodone

 

Been on and off AD’s for many years. Was CT ‘d from Ativan at detox 6 yrs ago and was so sick for many years .

 

I was put on Prozac before the Ativan and tapered over a year and got down to 5 mg then massive WD.

 

PCP switched  me to Celexa then and added Trazadone for sleep and the withdrawal was so bad from the Prozac that I had to resume the Ativan 0.5 mg twice a day for the last two yrs plus 40mg of Celexa and I am currently tapering the Trazadone at 5% since January but am having terrible WD now . Need advice about increasing it a bit to stop the WD and stabilize.

 

I have gone through a few AD withdrawals and can never seem to get off these drugs without loosing my ability to function when I get to a lower dose . 

 

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Been on antidepressants for 25 yrs.

Started in 1990.

Been on serzone, paxil,effector and Celexa which has been for last 5 yrs.

Have tapered off everything with no success doing 1-2 year tapers. Withdrawal started this past Sept on 12mg after 1.5 years of taper.started on prozac and he did a 4 week taper off Celexa which restarted at 20mg.off Celexa now for 10 weeks.on prozac 15mg for last 10 weeks.also now on klonopin

.125mg 3x day and .25mg at night.

MD thinks prozac is too strong.

Been through w/d many times and this is it.

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ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

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