malu: Pristiq withdrawal

[malu]

If i take mirtazapine can it be beneficial to me? I'm in so much agony, exhaustion... I cannot commit suicide, so I want a truce from this suffering.

[malu]

If not Remeron, is there a med that can help me? Lamictal, or benzodiazepines?

[malu]

Hi, no one is helping me in my topic, so I want to ask here, an active topic,  if mirtazapine can be beneficial for someone who took an overdose of something (4000mcg of sublingual b12) that injured severely an already weak nervous system. I'm suffering from severe nerve pain and agony,  akhatisia, insomnia, cognitive impairment, an hyperactive nervous system that doesn't relax and suffers very much more with little things, for example if drink I milk or get stressed by something. The psychiatrist prescribed me mirtazapine to help the symptoms, it would be great if I could be sedated and feel less pain, and relax, sleep. I didn't take it, I'm asking here on opinions if it can help me, I'm desperate. Also what can I do, is there any med I can take? A benzo? Lamictal? Mirtazapine?
 

This is my topic, it isn't so much about Pristiq anymore. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/14438-malu-pristiq-withdrawal

 

[malu]

On 4/8/2017 at 2:51 AM, Altostrata said:

Welcome, malu.

 

I congratulate you on tapering Pristiq in a systematic way, without skipping doses.

 

It sounds like you are taking care of yourself. You might want to take these supplements

 

King of supplements: Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil)

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker

 

Many people find them helpful.

 

Some people can get by with a fast taper. Please let us know how you're doing.

Hi, Altostrata, please help me

[malu]

Before that overdose I would be ok if I took chamomile tea, or magnesium, my nervous system responded well to them. But now it doesn't have much effect, and things like milk, or making effort to do a activity gives me a very horrible response, pain, agony, sensation of the nervous system being inflamed, electrically charging sensations of burning (it feels inflamed at the same time). It's unbearable pain, 24/7.

[Cloudskishawna]

I wouldn't take mirtazapine try and find something else to help mirtazapine would just make it worse trust me

[bheb]

12 hours ago, malu said:

Before that overdose I would be ok if I took chamomile tea, or magnesium, my nervous system responded well to them. But now it doesn't have much effect, and things like milk, or making effort to do a activity gives me a very horrible response, pain, agony, sensation of the nervous system being inflamed, electrically charging sensations of burning (it feels inflamed at the same time). It's unbearable pain, 24/7.

 

Yes this is how I describe the sensation that is linked to akathisia. Prickly burning acidic itchiness —> need to move and thrash it out of me. It’s terrible. I’m sorry you struggle with it too.

 

I find that magnesium does not help me. Even though it is a go-to for RLS and for many akathisia sufferers. I think Epsom salt baths even rev me up. 

 

Mirtazapine is often recommended for akathisia among doctors. But be careful. It has its own nasty withdrawal and many react badly to it. 

[bheb]

On 12/17/2017 at 8:21 PM, malu said:

I think I'll suffer less and thus live better if I don't have attachment to what my body used to be and aversion to these feelings. I'll only suffer more if I do. I accept what happened and focus in the present. Everything's impermanent, all those feelings too, and they are just feelings. I think cultivating equanimity is a good idea. 

 

This is quite wise. I feel the same sometimes and really try to find acceptance. The restlessness and agitation is quite at odds with it though. It forces you to want to move which is more running away from than accepting. It’s tricky. 

[malu]

It isn't like before. I can't meditate and just feel the sensations... my nervous system is in overdrive. I can't relax, the physiology of my body is hyper activated and "inflamed". Its not a matter of having a good perspective torwards life now. I had a good enough perspective. I enjoyed my life. I was grateful for the people who care for me, my friends. I dealt with my everyday problems. I complained little. Before, back in 2017 I could just watch the pain... it was more like regular physical pain, so I could deal with it that way. But now it's different. it's really worse than ever. And anything activity I do wears me out and makes me worse. I ruined myself. Now just the activity of trying to meditate, trying to watch the pain, is putting more effort and wearing out my body, and it causes more agony. Before I could do many activities, including meditating, but now it's like throwing gasoline at fire. The pain is coming from a very pulsating system that doesn't rest. The pain wears my body out. Back then it could really hurt but it didn't wear me out, it just hurted, badly, but that was it.

 

Before that overdose life was very manageable, things like walking, taking a shower, drinking tea, having a chat, just laying in bed, even crying, helped me. Now it's very different. I don't know what to do.

[Cloudskishawna]

I'm so sorry I really don't know what to recommend to you but I do know one thing mirtazapine is not the answer I feel as though it would make you worse so please don't take it 

I'm sorry your going through this 

[malu]

Okay, I have the mirtazapine box but i didn't take it.

[malu]

One symptom that i have that is horrible is allodynia. My clothes and hair are giving me burning sensations... If someone gave me a massage it would be horrible, it gives burning sensations. And the intolerance to heat is horrible too. Cold doesn't help, I'm sensitive to it, and heat hurts and is "claustrophobic".
Is there recovery from allodynia? Wikipedia says it has "no cure". I took magnesium and it helped the overactive nervous system symptoms by, say, 15%, but it is still horrible. So I'll continue taking it. My quality of life decreased because of that overdose. I'm ruminating a lot, thinking "if only" i didn't take it in october 1. "If only" I could go back to september 30, by now I would be ok and living a normal life.

[Cloudskishawna]

That's good don't take it because I'm currently withdrawling from mirtazapine and I wouldn't want you to add another poison which could possibly make your situation way worse maybe ask alto or the veterans on here to know what to do  I only know so much good luck

[bheb]

11 hours ago, malu said:

Before, back in 2017 I could just watch the pain... it was more like regular physical pain, so I could deal with it that way. But now it's different. it's really worse than ever. And anything activity I do wears me out and makes me worse. I ruined myself. Now just the activity of trying to meditate, trying to watch the pain, is putting more effort and wearing out my body, and it causes more agony

 

Same here. It is isn’t quite pain because it doesn’t allow you to sit with it. The very nature of it adds urgency. Meditation just calls attention to the distress, never mind being able to tolerate holding stillness in different positions. 

 

This is pretty much how mines been the whole time. I’m sorry it escalated for you.

 

I have faith that you’ll return to baseline soon enough. I actually take b12 myself and it helps a little bit, crazy how different we all are.

 

[Altostrata]

malu, I moved your post here. What drugs are you taking now, at what times of day and dosages? Are you taking magnesium and fish oil?

 

Since you destabilized your nervous system with too much B12 before and recovered from it, you'll recover from it again. How long did it take you to recover before?

[malu]

On 11/5/2019 at 8:20 PM, Altostrata said:

malu, I moved your post here. What drugs are you taking now, at what times of day and dosages? Are you taking magnesium and fish oil?

 

Since you destabilized your nervous system with too much B12 before and recovered from it, you'll recover from it again. How long did it take you to recover before?

Altostrata, thanks for replying. I'm taking just magnesium. It isn't helping so much. I'll buy fish oil.

But I have to say: the first time I had problems with b12 I was quite "fine". It felt like taking a psychiatric med and then being in withdrawal. I woke up feeling ok, then I had panic attacks, etc. but I was ok enough. I had energy to go to the hospital, to talk, to think, etc. Now I don't have so much energy to talk or think or to call an uber  or take a bus and go to places. It wears me out.

The last time it wasn't like that. I felt torturing pain for hours. It was intoxicating. I had cognitive deficits, which I didn't had before taking b12. The other time I used to think and talk straight. After that, sice october 1, my body wasn't the same. Right now it can't calm down. I can't meditate, because it a physical thing. I experience this:
 

-Inner non-relaxation, inability to relax, my body is tense all the time, it's physical, it calms just a bit for some moments, and then it's overwhelming again, but never got to 'baseline' again, it's like my nervous system it's always hyperactivated and nerves;

- Feeling of "inflammation" in the body.

Unable to feel pleasure, instead feel pain in sensations that would normally cause pleasure such as laughing.

-Drastic decrease in tactile sensitivity (except for pain, which is strong)

-Burning sensation intensifies when something comes into contact with the skin, even the contact of the hair itself with the skin, body contact with the clothes, sheets, objects...

-Intolerance to heat, which also causes agonizing burning (I had cold sensitivity before which was fine, it wasn't painful and claustrophobic);

Inability to rest. I have trouble sleeping, sleep is not restorative and I wakes up feeling very bad and in agony;
-Pain in tendons and muscles, especially hands and arms;
-Lack of physical and mental energy, to do things.
-Stress enhances the symptoms.

Most of the time I'm feeling this torturing inner restlessness (which is not normal, it's physical, it isn't anxiety), that comes along with agony, pain, heat sensitivity, burning sensations in the skin.

All of that since 1 october, before it was just panic attacks, mild insomnia, fatigue...

It's been one month and one week. I don't what should I do.


The psychiatrist prescribed me mirtazapine, I have the med box here, but didn't took it. What should I do?

 

[Altostrata]

We know that the B vitamins can be activating, megadoses of B vitamins even more so. Repeated destabilization via supplements or drugs can make you even more sensitive to adverse effects.

 

Not sure what to suggest. Over the last month, how have your symptoms changed? Are you sleeping better or worse now than a month ago?

 

Why did the psychiatrist prescribe mirtazapine?

 

 

[malu]

44 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

We know that the B vitamins can be activating, megadoses of B vitamins even more so. Repeated destabilization via supplements or drugs can make you even more sensitive to adverse effects.

 

Not sure what to suggest. Over the last month, how have your symptoms changed? Are you sleeping better or worse now than a month ago?

 

Why did the psychiatrist prescribe mirtazapine?

 

 

Yes, it was THE BIGGEST mistake of life. I felt I really poisoned and damaged my body that day.

Some symptoms that improved:
I can sleep more, and I can sleep faster (but only the same hour of the day, when my body is tired I can sleep faster than before, but I still have insomnia.) Cognitive symptoms: I can think and talk better, in the first weeks of october I couldn't think (it was like my mind was blank and I had to make an effort to think).

The heat intolerance and muscle pain, got worse. The burning pain in the skin got worse (I think that is allodynia, it gets triggered with sheets, clothes, heat). The inner restlessness diminished by 1% I think, because I'm more able to sleep but still basically the same. It doesn't rest. I can't lie in my bed and rest right now, or walk or go to the beach, it doesn't rest, it's my whole body, from head to feet.

The psychiatrist prescribed it because it was sedating, I told him the whole story, and that I needed to sleep, and rest, and having my body be calm again. Even though I want this so much I'm afraid of taking it. So he prescribed 15mg of Mirtazapine for the first week, and then 30mg after that.

I've been to the neurologist, and he didn't took me seriously and thought all my pain wasn't real just because the MRI and EEG results were normal. He said I should take what the psychiatrist prescribed. He didn't took me seriously.

[Altostrata]

What are your pre-existing health conditions, outside of any psychiatric diagnoses?

 

31 minutes ago, malu said:

So he prescribed 15mg of Mirtazapine for the first week, and then 30mg after that.

 

I wouldn't take this if I were sensitized the way you are.

 

As you've already seen some improvement, is there a reason why you can't give it another few weeks without another drug experiment?

[malu]

1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

What are your pre-existing health conditions, outside of any psychiatric diagnoses?

 

 

I wouldn't take this if I were sensitized the way you are.

 

As you've already seen some improvement, is there a reason why you can't give it another few weeks without another drug experiment?

I had anemia and my b12 was low (it is 235,5 pg/ml right now). I'm not vegetarian anymore since all this started. I'm eating a lot of liver beef.
I just had fatigue, I was a little depressed (but it was mild) and that was it, and before the first big dose of b12 I had panic attacks and paraesthesias in that week, and the week after that I had more panic attacks, anxiety and derealization / depersonalization. After october 1 I even miss that week because I could have a good time talking, resting and have pleasure in things like taking a bus and day to day activities. I lost the sensibility to even feel those feelings. I didn't had any panic attacks after that but my body is restless all the time, and it isn't anxiety (anxiety comes with it, but that restlessness is physical).

I'm pessimist. I think I messed up my body and it won't be close to normal again. But also I'm really afraid of taking something. I drunk milk and my symptoms were so much worse. So much. If I was like that with milk, I don't know what will happen if I take that. But everybody is pressuring me to take it. And the suffering is so bad. I didn't take it because I'm trying to be prudent.

I read that allodynia has no cure. I developed it in October 1. Right now my arms and back are firing burning sensations. I don't think this symptom will go away... I forgot to say now I'm also depressed. Before it wasn't like this, before all that I was depressed but it would go away. And it wasn't like it is now.

[malu]

2 hours ago, Altostrata said:

As you've already seen some improvement, is there a reason why you can't give it another few weeks without another drug experiment?

In few weeks would it be ok to take mirtazapine or any psychiatric med?

I don't think i had signficant improvements. Basically I'm able to sleep 8 hours now, it was basically that. But my body is restless and with all the symptoms, like last month.

[Altostrata]

Being able to sleep is a significant improvement. You developed an adverse reaction to a supplement, not a disease. Your symptoms will go away over time if you don't do something to make them worse.

 

If you take a drug such as mirtazapine, you risk kindling your symptoms all over again. If I were you, I would not try any drug experiments right now. With your experiments, you are making your own problems.

 

If you insist on trying mirtazapine, I would try perhaps 1mg, to limit any adverse reaction. If you have an adverse reaction, it's not likely we can help you with it.

[malu]

Yesterday a ate soup with too much turmeric, and I felt relaxed, not completely but I relaxed significantly. Not even magnesium did this. Today I'm feeling like ****. If turmeric did this, I'm not willing to experiment with mirtazapine.

[malu]

On 11/11/2019 at 9:05 PM, Altostrata said:

Being able to sleep is a significant improvement. You developed an adverse reaction to a supplement, not a disease. Your symptoms will go away over time if you don't do something to make them worse.

 

If you take a drug such as mirtazapine, you risk kindling your symptoms all over again. If I were you, I would not try any drug experiments right now. With your experiments, you are making your own problems.

 

If you insist on trying mirtazapine, I would try perhaps 1mg, to limit any adverse reaction. If you have an adverse reaction, it's not likely we can help you with it.

I don't want to sound repetitive, but I want to ask if taking 1mg per day would be bad, because of the med half-life (wouldn't it be like as if i was taking a med every X days? I'm considering taking it, it's unbearable to live like this.

[Altostrata]

1 hour ago, malu said:

I don't want to sound repetitive, but I want to ask if taking 1mg per day would be bad, because of the med half-life (wouldn't it be like as if i was taking a med every X days? I'm considering taking it, it's unbearable to live like this.

 

I have no idea. Could be bad, could be helpful.

 

On 11/11/2019 at 4:05 PM, Altostrata said:

Being able to sleep is a significant improvement....

 

If you take a drug such as mirtazapine, you risk kindling your symptoms all over again. If I were you, I would not try any drug experiments right now. With your experiments, you are making your own problems.

 

As you've already seen improvement, you will have to decide yourself if you can be patient and let your nervous system settle down, or risk more bad effects from a drug experiment.

 

A lot of people find fish oil and magnesium supplements helpful, see
https://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/
https://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

 

Try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you.

[Delriver]

On 11/17/2019 at 5:31 PM, malu said:

I don't want to sound repetitive, but I want to ask if taking 1mg per day would be bad, because of the med half-life (wouldn't it be like as if i was taking a med every X days? I'm considering taking it, it's unbearable to live like this.

 

How are you feeling today malu? My case is pretty similar in terms of the pain, but mirtazapine doesn't seem to make it worse for me. 

[ChessieCat]

27 minutes ago, Surviving1 said:

The full story is too long to tell here and I don't have strenght to tell it.

 

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December 2012 to October 2015: Escitalopram
January 2015 (I think) to October 2015: Nortriptyline (Pamelor)
October 2015 to January 2016: Sertraline (stopped it cold turkey)
April 2016: Aripiprazole (Aristab)
May 2016 to July 2016: Sertraline
July 2016 to January 2017: Pristiq 50 mg
January 2017 to March 2017: tapering off of Pristiq by cutting the pills.
Currently on no psychiatric medication and I intend to stay like that for now on.

Supplements: magnesium chloride, Lugol's iodine solution at 5%, and vitamin b12.

I also take Spironolactone 200 mg and estradiol 4 mg

[malu]

Hello. Hipersensitivity mess / Wrecked nervous system

 

How do I battle hypersensivity? I'm almost starting mirtazapine (i went to a psychiatrist and he prescribe it and i bought it) because my life is hell right now. I'm tense and anxious in abnormal ways. My nervous system is wrecked, that even using supplements, foods, estrogen, etc. makes things worse. I used a lot of meds in the past for years. The full story is too long to tell here and I don't have strenght to tell it. A year ago I took for a month mirtazapine and stopped in less than a month without withdrawal. I used it because my body and nervous system was already disregulated before, maybe because of the meds I used to use back in 2017 (Pristiq, and the one I used the most Escitalopram that even gave me PSSD that later was cured). This year lots of substances made my nervous system and body worse. This is the only place i know that people talk about it seriously. I was using symbicort and I had crysis in the beginning of the year because of the hypersensivity. I used a skin cosmetic and I had an "overdose" on it. I went to a doctor because I was having vision problems, and she said it was neurologic (it got better aft a few weeks) and to do a further exam she put dye eye drops in my eyes and i had another traumatic reaction onece more to another substance. In october I decided to take my oestrogen gel by myself and I used it for few weeks (I should've go to a doctor instaed of doing it that way but I was afraid of corona) and I started to be very angry and unsettled. Since I stopped it my nervous system is in constant agony, I've been meaning to create this thread for weeks, but I spend all days in agony at my parents basement only taking lots of lemongrass tea, but it's not enough. So I don't know if use Mirtazapine or Escitalopram (yes, I bought both, even though I had PSSD in the past) or take a microdose of it or don't do anything (hard). But my life is hell and no doctor aknowledges my pain and condition (hypersensivity, wrecked nervous system). Please help me! I don't know who to ask for help anymore!

[malu]

Is it wise to use Mirtazapine or Escitalopram in low doses to cope with my symptoms of wrecked nervous system? Mirtazapine doesn't mess with libido (although i just want peace rn) but it's not liquid, I would have to use a syringe to dose it. The escitalopram is in liquid form.

[ChessieCat]

We need to know what drugs/supplements and the doses and the dates for the dose changes and the date and dose for the last time you took a drug (if you have stopped something) since December 2019.

 

Q1:  What drugs / supplements are you currently taking and at what doses?

 

Q2:  Have you taken any benzos?

 

Q3:  How is your sleep?

 

Q4: Do you now or in the past consume alcohol?  If yes, how much?

 

Q5:  Have you taken any antibiotics in the last 2 years?  If yes, what, when and why?

 

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[malu]

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We need to know what drugs/supplements and the doses and the dates for the dose changes and the date and dose for the last time you took a drug (if you have stopped something) since December 2019.

 

I used Symbicort (a corticosteroid inhaler) for the first half of the year and it was worsening my symptoms for sure.
I used a skin cosmetic on may that did a big reaction on me. And dye eye drops on june did the same.

I used estradiol gel on october with spironolactone (this year I almost didnt use hormones) and it worsen my symptoms badly. t's been a year of having these symptoms and only seeing them get worse because of my mistakes. I made many mistakes that kindled my body.

 

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Q1:  What drugs / supplements are you currently taking and at what doses?

I'm taking lemongrass tea irregularly, and two capsules of fish oil a day. I have magnesium chloride here but it make me feel strange and I think it may worsen my symptoms so I'm avoiding it. I had derealization/panic attacks because of it. This week I took a bit of spironolactone by myself to test it and I think it made feel worse, so I'm not using it right now. Maybe estradiol capsules wouldn't hurt but I'm not risking it. I shoud've used it instead of the gel because it seems more safe. And after going to a doctor.

 

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No

 

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Bad, inmsonia and waking up with the nerveous pain/high anxiety. My nerves are very fragile.

 

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Q4: Do you now or in the past consume alcohol?  If yes, how much?

It's been a long time so I don't think it matters, I don't take alcohol.

 

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  If yes, what, when and why? I took Cipro (a fluoroquinolone) in august 2018 for respiratory problems

 

I think this condition can be because of the past use of antidepressants too, but it got worsen by other things as I said, so my nervous system is wrecked, and very hypersensitive. I'm desperate. High anxiety, high tense state, alertness, neuropathy... I've read about reinstatement and I saw that after a long time you can even use another class of drugs (correct me if I'm wrong) so I'm thinking of using a small dose of Mirtazapine (last psych med I used) or Escitalopram for relief of the symptoms. My psychiatrist insists that I take 5 drops of escitalopram (I think it's almost 7mg) or the whole dose of 15mg of Mirtazapine, so he doesn't aknowledges what my body is going through.

 

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So that your symptoms can be assess, please provide 3 consecutive days of daily symptom notes.  This post explains why we ask for these and the best format to use.  Please post a 24 hour period in one post.  Please note that report your symptoms in the daily notes we need you to describe your symptoms specifically, not just say that your system is destablised or that you are in agony.  Thank you.

 

The last days I spent the days making tea and trying to cope with the symptoms. It's so bad I can't barely concentrate to make this post. Hyper-reactivity, anxiety, panic, sleeplessness, alerting in general, constant agony, very weak nerves (stress makes it hurt easily, one day I burned my hand with hot water it was unbearable on my body, I broke down), I can't concentrate barely, I'm in a constant state of agony and not relaxing. I take lemongrass tea and it helps just a small % but it's still very unbearable for the whole day and the sleep is bad. In the morning today I'm very unsettled already.

 

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[Shep]

On 6/15/2017 at 10:54 PM, malu said:

Update: More than 3 months later, I stopped eating raw food, I'm still vegan and I'll die vegan, my blood exam showed me everything's ok, I just need to exercise.

 

Are you supplementing with B12? If not, you may be deficient. Have you had your level checked since 2017? You mentioned taking a large dose of B12 in 2019 in this post earlier in your thread). If you do try B12 again, try a very small amount to test the waters.  

 

You may also have some iron deficiency. Some of us find that remaining with a vegan or vegetarian diet is impossible once we can no longer use supplements. I was a vegetarian for over 30 years prior to withdrawal and moved to a Paleo diet (I wrote about that in these posts here and here).

 

I'm not recommending you switch diets, but you may want to consider adding in fish first to see if that helps before resorting to a psych drug. Fish seems to be a great transitional food for people seeking to leave the vegan or vegetarian diet. It can be spiritually traumatic for some to leave a vegan or vegetarian diet, but it may be necessary if you're not able to supplement and get adequate amounts of vitamin B12 and iron. 

 

For me, it was helpful to acknowledge the number of animals who suffer and die in the testing of psychiatric drugs. Farmers' markets and local, organic shops can be a way of getting meat products that are sourced as humanely as possible. There are no easy answers here, but you do need to eat for your health within the context of withdrawal symptoms. 

[malu]

I'm not vegan anymore. This year I ate meat because of my health. But lately I'm kind of "vegetarian" because foods, speacilly meats are giving me reactions. So at the moment I'm takig fish oil. And sometimes I eat eggs, but my nervous system is so wrecked that even taking too much eggs makes me feel a reaction to it. I'm not supplementing b12. I need to get blood tests.

 

This situation is very frustrating because it seems there's no doctor that understands it. So I came here out of desperation because some people here are very knowledgeable on this.

[malu]

Even magnesium chloride is kindling my body. Just two sips resulted in panic, derealization and worsening of nerve pain (burning, agony, alertness, sensitivity to stressors...). I'm tempted in using a small amount of mirtazapine or escitalopram but I'm afraid. It's unbearable living my days like this... This week I want to do blood tests to see my vitamin rates.

My nervous system is frying so hard. I'm thinking of using small dose of mirtazapine (last year my body was different, it helped) or escitalopram (I just happen to have both here) to help with the tremendous stress and symptons of alertness... I don't know what to do, so I came to the forum... No doctor is helping me... They don't understand.

 

Can using an antidepressive like mirtazapine or escitalopram in a low dose help the nervous system in any way? I'm on too much stress.

[malu]

Also, the estradiol gel I used in october had abnormal serotonergic effects, it was one of the things that messed up my body

[malu]

I started taking 2mg of mirtazapine. I can feel the effect but its not enough to counter my symptoms. I won't increase it today. I'm trying to see how my body will react.