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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/96936319/a-hamilton-family-see-a-large-gap-in-the-mental-health-system

As a NZ er i am just so gutted and sick of reading this kind of story every Saturday morning.

This is a story that is all too common in this country and is happening every day and the cluelessness and harm done by pharma indoctrinated doctors and their rosy red apples (no pun intended) leaves me extremely disappointed. [thats an understatement].

 

It is very obvious what has occurred here ...lets read between the lines.

 

Firstly it is clear imo this was not a person suffering 'D' (whatever that is). This is seen not just from the below comments but from the photos of an outward looking and outgoing person loving life and with everything to live for, making plans and thriving.

 

She was bubbly, energetic, but she didn't conserve energy for herself.

 

....family, will run the Auckland Marathon on October 29. It was an event that Rosy May had planned to compete in herself.

She was pretty creative and she was pretty prolific with her art,...

 

Now i thought as you do ...how could this tragedy happen...then... i wondered if she had been swallowing anything from a doctor, an ssri maybe?...or had she ever done something extremely dangerous like see a psychiatrist?? I read on... and then my heart sank as i read this.....

 

She was on medication and had seen a psychiatrist in the past.

 

When you check out of adult mental health, if you are having a relapse, you can't just ring up for an appointment. They actually write you right off again.

"It's not like, I'm not doing well, I need a medication review, because she was still on medication from the previous year. But it was not working for her, so we wanted to get that tweaked, but it was really hard to get her back in again," Margie said.

 

The family want to create a respite facility in Rosy May's honour, a place where people who feel themselves spiralling down can go to relax, to be removed from the pressures of everyday life as they rebalance themselves.

Rosy May had never attempted suicide before, but had talked about it in April.

"At first she thought she was having a couple of down days, but then she realised she was sliding back into that hole again.

"She did say to me, 'Mum, I would rather check out than go through that again.'

"I don't think she hid it [the depression], but she thought people were really tired of it, but that was just her perception," Margie said.

 

Its just so heartbreaking.

There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that this poor girl was an iatrogenic victim of clueless injudicious doctors peddling suicidal inducing poisons, a victim of uninformed consent.

We all know the sequence, an off-label prescription probably an ssri maybe citalopram? zoloft? leads to a drug addiction then labels then it leads to a person saying they want off the drug then a stupid doctor who cold turkeys them, then a psychological and emotional spiral due to 'D'/relapse drug withdrawal ensues. It is long lasting and people soon become very tired of it and even apologetic for it. The drug wdl thats right i said drug withdrawal...is so torturous that many take their own life, for death becomes a welcome relief. People who would never speak of such things suddenly start talking of suicide. And then as the inescapable drug wdl worsens  and they can take it no more, they are overwhelmingly pushed into it.

 

It sounds to me that this wonderful human being had been subjected to this withdrawal process once before. Maybe there were previous switches and cold turkeys...and lets not forget the old 'double the dose' to numb and dumb the cns into submission.

 

The further tragedy here is the family innocently  think they are going to do some good out of this (setting up a respite centre...personally they would do so much more good if they could set up an informed tapering and withdrawal centre). They however may in fact unknowingly be corralling more people into harms way....my stomach felt sick when i read this.... "I did want her to see a private psychiatrist.."

I've said it before but i'll say it again ..when it comes to trying to get off these dreadful chemicals and surviving wdl symptoms family members can be very dangerous by pushing people into the arms of the most dangerous people a person could ever talk to!

 

I see no mention of anyone accusing the psychiatrist of murder, why not!?....

i guess the perfect crime just happened again and the perpetrators are free to blame the victim and free to move on to finding the next one.

 

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None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

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I too am SO DONE with stories like this one.  I have had it with hearing about "raising awareness" of suicide without looking at the real causes of so many of these suicides--which is always written off, in reports like this one, to "mental illness." It's virtually NEVER attributed to   1) the side and/or withdrawal effects of the meds themselves, and/or 2) the sickness of a hyper-capitalistic society run by psychopathic neocons--with all of the incumbent harms done to the populations all over the world suffering under these machinations Clearly, something is very, very wrong when a "bubbly, energetic" young person chooses to take her life, just because she is suffering from depression.  And yes, "raising awareness" will do absolutely nothing to put a stop to these tragedies.  We've been "raising awareness" for a couple of generations now (at least), and the suicide rate continues to rise--especially among young females. The beat just goes on and on and on. Disgusting.

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Thanks for sharing this NZ.  I, too have had it with "raising Awareness"  

 

I cringed through "Suicide week/day/month" whatever it was - I was in the States for it.

 

One of my Best Friends put on a play - the play explores the inside of suicide, of someone who is determined to exercise her right to stop living.  It was a heart wrenching, well written, and beautifully performed piece.  She and I have shared several suicides in our community, and to honour their lives, she performed this event, and I attended.  I cried and let go of one of them (ex-husband, a big one) while I was there.  I could hear his voice.

 

But the "suicide awareness" (and the awareness of the audience comments in the after-discussion) was shocking.  

 

But this girl - another young life cut short.  (and if it hadn't been cut short, she might be another of the "whoops, got on this for 20 years - 20 years later, where am I?")

 

Such a beautiful, talented, charming young woman.

 

Tragedy.

 

Drug free respite is needed - it can prevent the spiralling of spiritual emergency.

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

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On ‎29‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 11:00 PM, nz11 said:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/96936319/a-hamilton-family-see-a-large-gap-in-the-mental-health-system

As a NZ er i am just so gutted and sick of reading this kind of story every Saturday morning.

This is a story that is all too common in this country and is happening every day and the cluelessness and harm done by pharma indoctrinated doctors and their rosy red apples (no pun intended) leaves me extremely disappointed. [thats an understatement].

 

It is very obvious what has occurred here ...lets read between the lines.

 

Firstly it is clear imo this was not a person suffering 'D' (whatever that is). This is seen not just from the below comments but from the photos of an outward looking and outgoing person loving life and with everything to live for, making plans and thriving.

 

She was bubbly, energetic, but she didn't conserve energy for herself.

 

....family, will run the Auckland Marathon on October 29. It was an event that Rosy May had planned to compete in herself.

She was pretty creative and she was pretty prolific with her art,...

 

Now i thought as you do ...how could this tragedy happen...then... i wondered if she had been swallowing anything from a doctor, an ssri maybe?...or had she ever done something extremely dangerous like see a psychiatrist?? I read on... and then my heart sank as i read this.....

 

She was on medication and had seen a psychiatrist in the past.

 

When you check out of adult mental health, if you are having a relapse, you can't just ring up for an appointment. They actually write you right off again.

"It's not like, I'm not doing well, I need a medication review, because she was still on medication from the previous year. But it was not working for her, so we wanted to get that tweaked, but it was really hard to get her back in again," Margie said.

 

The family want to create a respite facility in Rosy May's honour, a place where people who feel themselves spiralling down can go to relax, to be removed from the pressures of everyday life as they rebalance themselves.

Rosy May had never attempted suicide before, but had talked about it in April.

"At first she thought she was having a couple of down days, but then she realised she was sliding back into that hole again.

"She did say to me, 'Mum, I would rather check out than go through that again.'

"I don't think she hid it [the depression], but she thought people were really tired of it, but that was just her perception," Margie said.

 

Its just so heartbreaking.

There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that this poor girl was an iatrogenic victim of clueless injudicious doctors peddling suicidal inducing poisons, a victim of uninformed consent.

We all know the sequence, an off-label prescription probably an ssri maybe citalopram? zoloft? leads to a drug addiction then labels then it leads to a person saying they want off the drug then a stupid doctor who cold turkeys them, then a psychological and emotional spiral due to 'D'/relapse drug withdrawal ensues. It is long lasting and people soon become very tired of it and even apologetic for it. The drug wdl thats right i said drug withdrawal...is so torturous that many take their own life, for death becomes a welcome relief. People who would never speak of such things suddenly start talking of suicide. And then as the inescapable drug wdl worsens  and they can take it no more, they are overwhelmingly pushed into it.

 

It sounds to me that this wonderful human being had been subjected to this withdrawal process once before. Maybe there were previous switches and cold turkeys...and lets not forget the old 'double the dose' to numb and dumb the cns into submission.

 

The further tragedy here is the family innocently  think they are going to do some good out of this (setting up a respite centre...personally they would do so much more good if they could set up an informed tapering and withdrawal centre). They however may in fact unknowingly be corralling more people into harms way....my stomach felt sick when i read this.... "I did want her to see a private psychiatrist.."

I've said it before but i'll say it again ..when it comes to trying to get off these dreadful chemicals and surviving wdl symptoms family members can be very dangerous by pushing people into the arms of the most dangerous people a person could ever talk to!

 

I see no mention of anyone accusing the psychiatrist of murder, why not!?....

i guess the perfect crime just happened again and the perpetrators are free to blame the victim and free to move on to finding the next one.

 

That's  a very apt way to describe it nz11 ,"THE PERFECT CRIME .I see myself as showing a different way after a year has past that I refused Zyprexa and hospital ,I showed I never needd it and no one can ever take that away from me .were does society ever start to change its stupidity and ignorance ,well we are on this site for a start I think .

these psychiatrists have a weird power in not  having to be accountable ,almost like despot dictators .

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  • 3 weeks later...

 Not being able to get yourself checked up, because  "it was really hard to get her back in again". Bureaucracy at it's finest.

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