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Hi! This is my first time posting. SA has been a wonderful resource for me to read over the past 4 years I have been tapering. I have tapered 2 medications successfully since 2013: viibryd and lithium. They were long, careful tapers with a prescriber and therapist. This year I'm working on a taper of abilify from 17mg by the recommended 10% with a 4 week hold.

 

I have a few questions for this community:

 

(1) How do you find the the vocabulary to describe withdrawal symptoms?

Every time I taper I feel the same sensation of being physically drained, particularly in my head. It's like a headache, but it's more of a consistent, dull pain. Has anyone experienced this? It's a form of fatigue, certainly, but it's more than that. Please let me know if there's a term for this that I might be able to research. Sometimes I take Tylenol for it, but the dull head pain continues. It's particularly hard in the mornings.

 

(2) I am looking for ways to be healthier in my lifestyle choices. How do you all find what works for you in terms of exercise and nutrition? Is it simply trial and error or do you have a system for measuring success? I get so depressed all I can do is sleep sometimes, and then take a walk for about 30 min. I have joined a gym but don't feel very motivated the days I do get there. 

 

Thank you very much for reading, and please let me know if you have any advice on those two topics.

Best,

Calle Mayor

  • Abilify (July 2005 -- )  January 2018: 17 mg; February 2018: 16 mg
  • Lamictal: (July 2005 -- ) February 2018: 400 mg: not tapering yet
  • Viibryd 2012--2013 
  • Lithium 2009--2015
  • Geodon 2005--2008
  • Artane: 2005--2011
  • Others prescribed over years: Lorazepam, Pristiq, Gabapentin, Neurontin, Cogentin, Seroquel, Lunesta, Wellbutrin, Celexa, Lexapro, Ativan, Topamax, Trazadone, Klonopin, Adderall
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Hello, callemayor, and welcome to SA.

 

Congratulations on your tapers of Vibryd and Lithium.  It's great you did it carefully and slowly.

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.
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You already know about the 10% taper, but I'd like to provide some links to give you more information.  

Brain Remodelling
Tips for tapering off aripiprazole (Abilify)

 

You asked about vocabulary to describe withdrawal symptoms.  I don't have a specific term for the symptom you describe but here are two links that might be helpful.

You should also Google "SurvivingAntidepressants.org headache" to find a discussion of this topic.
 
Regarding healthier lifestyle choices, much of it is trial error and good sense, and much also is individual.  There is no specific system for measuring success, nor is it really necessary to put pressure on yourself to "succeed"--you're doing well just going off these drugs.  
 
SA doesn't have a specific diet that it recommends, only that you eat as healthily as you can.  It's good to avoid caffeine and sugar, as these can be very activating. This is especially so since insomnia is such a common symptom in withdrawal.  Regarding exercise, there are some members, especially younger members, who engage in strenuous exercise.  Many members, however, myself included, find strenuous exercise to be a stress on an already overstressed nervous system.  A 30-minute gentle walk in nature works best for many members.  The fact that you are not motivated at the gym may be your body protecting itself from stressors.
 
This is your introduction topic -- the place for you to ask questions, record symptoms, share your progress, and connect with other members of the SA community. I hope you'll find the information in the SA forums helpful for your situation. I'm sorry that you are in the position that you need the information, but I am glad that you found us.
 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Gridley

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.   

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8mg and shift to Imipramine taper

Aug. 5, 2022: shift back to Valium taper.  

Current dose as of Oct. 20, 2022: 3.2mg

Taper is 83% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Aug. 5: 9.5mg 

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5 and shift to Valium taper

Taper is 87% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Thank you so much, Gridley! I updated my signature and have been searching for headache threads. I'll keep searching for nutrition and movement suggestions on SA too.

Sending my best to you!

  • Abilify (July 2005 -- )  January 2018: 17 mg; February 2018: 16 mg
  • Lamictal: (July 2005 -- ) February 2018: 400 mg: not tapering yet
  • Viibryd 2012--2013 
  • Lithium 2009--2015
  • Geodon 2005--2008
  • Artane: 2005--2011
  • Others prescribed over years: Lorazepam, Pristiq, Gabapentin, Neurontin, Cogentin, Seroquel, Lunesta, Wellbutrin, Celexa, Lexapro, Ativan, Topamax, Trazadone, Klonopin, Adderall
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Check out this topic

 

 

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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