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cannabis: Spring 2002 - Dec. 2007; regularly smoked, stopped cold turkey; symptoms: paranoid and depressed

Paroxetine: 20 mg July 2008, 40 mg October, 20 mg spring 2009, 0 mg summer 2009

Depakote (sodium valproate): October 2008 - Spring 2009

Haloperdidol 1 week Oct. 2008, H caused seizures, went to A&E;  stopped taking it.

Citalopram few weeks in the fall of 2009 to deal with withdrawal symptoms from stopping paroxetine

Paroxetine round 2: 20 mg Feb - summer 2010 -20mg don't remeber if I went up to 40mg

Venlafaxine & sodium valproate (again): Sep 2010 - Summer 2012  

SERTRALINE: November 2012 - May 2016 , 50-100mg (few days @ 150mg in Summer '15). a complete freak out at the end of April. 

May 2016 Prescribed Lithium and Abilify HAVE NOT TAKEN

No medications May 2016 - October 2016

Hospitalised - November 13th 2016 - Prescribed 15 mg Mirtazapine/Remeron. Reducing since 24 December 2016.  9 June 2017 medication free. 

 

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James Moore has done an immense service to all of us by producing the Let's Talk Withdrawal podcast and by publicizing the horrific realities of antidepressants to various media outlets.  The above video is just one example of his eloquent advocacy. 

Note what the big-Pharma shill doctor states in the video--the usual drivel about ADs saving lives, safe and effective, etc. etc. ad nauseum.

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Psychologist and Psychotherapist

Prozac 20 mg for approx 3 months during 2000, withdrew, no w/d sx

Prozac 10 - 30 mg Jan. 2008 - Dec. 2014

Ritalin 30-40 mg Jan. 2008 - Mar. 2015

W/d sx from Prozac started around 3 months after cessation--crying spells, depressed mood, lethargy; resolved in 8 - 12 mos. post cessation

Used and continue to use a TON of alternative methods--meditation, mindfulness, nutrition. supplements, exercise, etc.

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Nice one, Distraut.

Your link will be useful to many of us.  Many thanks!

And well done, BBC Wales.

Born 1945. 

1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine

2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor.  13Jul - 212.5mg;  6Aug - 200.0mg;  24Aug - 187.5mg;  13Sep - 175.0mg;  3Oct - 162.5mg;  26Oct - 150mg 

2017  9Jan - 150.00mg;  23Mar - 137.50mg;  24Apr - 125.00mg;  31May - 112.50mg holding;  3Sep - 100.00mg;  20Sep - 93.75mg;  20Oct - 87.5mg;  12Nov - 81.25mg;  13 Dec - 75.00mg

2018  18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg

2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside.  7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result.

Supps/Vits  Omega 3;  Chelated Magnesium;  Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. 

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ty god

  the awareness is starting to grow I only took them for 2 years and it's been a hard battle to come off 

if I didn't find this website I would probably be in a bad place or dead 

 

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Hi all, thank you Distraut for sharing this and for all of your comments above too. Dealing with the media is always frustrating because you never get enough time. I was interviewed for 35 minutes and I mentioned Surviving Antidepressants as well as other support too, But they only seem to want the gritty personal details. However, it is useful, I think to get this on mainstream media. The morning after this I was also interviewed by BBC Radio Wales (unfortunately another short item) the links for both are below, please share them widely if you can, I am totally open about my experiences and really keen to get the discussion started outside the communities, like this one, that know the full impact.

 

Thanks so much.

 

James

 

BBC Wales Today piece: https://youtu.be/okxuobnittc

BBC Wales Radio with Dr David Healy: https://soundcloud.com/user-581729117/bbc-radio-wales
 

March 2012 - Prescribed Mirtazapine 15mg for anxiety and phobias

May 2012 - Jan 2017 - Had several brief spells on 30mg, none helpful, remained at 15mg

May 2017 - Started my withdrawal by transferring to liquid preparation at the same dosage (1ml = 15mg)

 

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9 hours ago, JamesMoore said:

Dealing with the media is always frustrating because you never get enough time. I was interviewed for 35 minutes and I mentioned Surviving Antidepressants as well as other support too, But they only seem to want the gritty personal details. However, it is useful, I think to get this on mainstream media.

 

Exactly.  Any publicity about the negative effects of psychiatric drugs and the issues with getting off them is good.  When people know that there can be issues they can do their own research.  I doubt that many of us here on SA even knew about withdrawal symptoms until we experienced them and that is when we started looking for answers.  Unfortunately there are members who went the long way around and got in a mess going off, swapping or adding drugs.

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  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq      on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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Amazing advocacy!!! 

 

2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, 

I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever.

 

2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds.

2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better

 

Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.)

"You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa

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From 3:00

 

the Royal College

of Psychiatrists say the evidence shows

they're beneficial and not addictive

they are effective they work and I see

in my routine clinical practice people

who've benefited from them tremendously

so I would really advise people to talk

to their doctor the GP or their

psychiatrist if they have worries about

antidepressants and any concerns they

may have about dependence on

antidepressants

but it's really important to stress they

are not addictive medications

Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions. 

  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq      on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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About 40 years ago I remember hearing that the benzodiazapine Ativan I had been prescribed was "not addictive".   Our GPs seemed to have been told by pharma reps that this was so, after the growing problem manifesting itself with Valium, e.g.

However, IIRC, pressure on one of my local GPs on asking for some clarification on what was meant by that, brought out the term "dependency".   Ah, that's OK then.

Playing with words, or fooled by those behind the promotion of these drugs into lying?   Seems so.  And they may wonder why we are filled with cynicism and mistrust.  Get a grip, drug-pushing psychiatrists, you may be in danger of becoming an extinct species.  The world wide web allows people to learn more about your specialism than you know.

Born 1945. 

1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine

2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor.  13Jul - 212.5mg;  6Aug - 200.0mg;  24Aug - 187.5mg;  13Sep - 175.0mg;  3Oct - 162.5mg;  26Oct - 150mg 

2017  9Jan - 150.00mg;  23Mar - 137.50mg;  24Apr - 125.00mg;  31May - 112.50mg holding;  3Sep - 100.00mg;  20Sep - 93.75mg;  20Oct - 87.5mg;  12Nov - 81.25mg;  13 Dec - 75.00mg

2018  18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg

2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside.  7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result.

Supps/Vits  Omega 3;  Chelated Magnesium;  Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. 

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Well said Peng.  I remember being prescribed Ativan and then the GP called me in to the surgery and said it may be difficult to get off and they wanted to swap me to diazepam in case 'I ever wanted to get off it in the future'.  I was immediately swapped from Ativan to diazepam and went through a few weeks of turmoil, but I am glad they swapped me because ultimately I was able to get off the diazepam,.  This was 40 years ago, I think all GPs know of these problems but they don't know what else to do for people when they arrive at the surgery in distress.

 

I think every GP knows of the difficulties.  However, it complicates thing when some people can get off them easily, so when prescribing I think doctors rationalise it to themselves by saying, the patient may be one of those able to get off it easily, and it is just too bad if the patient can't. 

 

Even members of the same family can have different withdrawals.  My hairdresser and her brother have both taken ADs and the girl got off with very little trouble but her brother can't.  He went on a long awaited ski holiday for 3 weeks and felt so well he thought he would discontinue them cold turkey and went through hell until getting back home to his pills, when his symptoms soon resolved.

 

Joy

 

Back to 20 mg at some point

22/3/18 down to 19.8 mg and feeling well

31/3/18 down to 19.6 mg and feeling well

14/4/18 down to 19.4 mg

05/5/18 down to 19.2 mg and feeling well

14/5/18 kicked out of my marital home/marriage/family unexpectedly when son took over farm

During many hospitalisations for shock/stress put on

1mg lorazepam prn

50mg quetiapine night for sleep

40 mg citalopram

10/01/2021  stopped taking quetiapine totally after a slow taper

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From 3:00

 

the Royal College

of Psychiatrists say the evidence shows

they're beneficial and not addictive

they are effective they work and I see

in my routine clinical practice people

who've benefited from them tremendously

so I would really advise people to talk

to their doctor the GP or their

psychiatrist if they have worries about

antidepressants and any concerns they

may have about dependence on

antidepressants

but it's really important to stress they

are not addictive medications

 

8 hours ago, peng said:

Playing with words

 

I thought the same thing when I was highlighting "addictive".

Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions. 

  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq      on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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