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It does sound like you need a thorough eye exam with a compassionate, listening doctor. Sounds like you have more than one thing going on.  I myself wouldn't rule out the possibility of AD WD contributing to your symptoms.  The other thing they have in common is fatigue.  Both focusing and eye twitches become worse with fatigue- and with caffeine too for that matter.  Good luck to you in finding relief for your symptoms.  Blessings, Ellen

Ellen

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insomnia, anxiety, depression- since childhood

lyme disease, dysautonomia, chiari malformation- dx 4/1997

 

nortriptyline- 75mg since childhood

clonazepam- 3mg since 4/1997

trazodone-100mg since 4/2013, now tapering

 

rotating antibiotics and antimalarials for lyme disease

midodrine- 10mg for dysautonomia

repeated skull surgeries for chiari malformation

 

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Anyone else have dry painful eyes, with blurry vision, especially in the mornings and late evenings? And/or tip on what to do about it?

1990-2013: prozac, 40 mg. daily

2013: st. Johnswort, 3 x 300 mg. daily

tapered st. Johnswort, now off it.

magnesium oil: applied to feet, at night

low dose naltrexone: 3 mg. daily

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calcium: 800 mg.

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August 2014: stopped supplements, reinstated prozac, first 10 mg., now 15 mg. , for severe anxiety and panic and total insomnia.

 

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The past few weeks, I have developed a twitch in my right, and only my right, eye. My vision isn't affected or anything; it just feels like it is twitching. Could this be from withdrawal? or maybe some sort of vitamin deficiency?

Tapering Zoloft, Dec 2014

Started Lamictal

Re-started Zoloft mid-Oct 2014, 25-50mg

Stopped Zoloft end of Sept 2014

Started Zoloft July 2014, 50mg

Stopped Prozac from 3mg May 2014

Stopped Effexor Dec '13 Started 10mg Prozac

Reinstated Effexor 15mg on Nov 2013

Stopped from 21mg on Oct 2013
Effexor 112.5mg, since Dec 2012

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Darn twitches. I had one on the back on the back of my right thigh for over a week. Then it stopped and moved to the outside of my left calf. I could see it fluttering. Lately my toes are extremely sensitive right across the tops of them. A while back it was the tips of my fingers, couldn't type till just recently.

 

Probably some nerves waking up.

What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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Yes, I've had this too.  It comes and goes. 

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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i had the right eye twitch for a few months. it went away but now after about 7 months the eye twitch came back. it went to my finger for a little while too. i assume its withdrawal.

on 37.5 - 50mg zoloft/sertraline for GAD from 3/1996 to 4/2013 (17 years) 

too fast taper from 1/13-4/13

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ive also had this..

2007 - 2013: was on citalopram (tried to quit a few times, never worked, always went back on. max dose 40mg)

2012-2013: was tapering my citalopram all down to 2,5 mg then quit.
2013/aug: Took  my last pill 

W/D hit me bad after a few weeks off my medicine.

2014/August: 12 months off (much improved)

2015/April: 20months off. ( much improved, still some symtoms comes in waves, but not so intense.)

2015/june: 22months off. FELT different than before, all shakings suddenly stopped, feel much better. a fantastic feeling!

2016/Feb : 2 years and 6 months off, END of my suffering. I feel perfectly fine and back to normal. 
2018/Oct: Iam still feeling great. It is hard to believe my own story when I read back, what I went through!

 

 

 

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I've had an eye twitch in my right eye for about 2 months, but it comes and goes. The better I sleep the less likely it occurs it seems. Before I experienced Prozac withdrawal symptoms I rarely got an eye twitch, and I suffered from insomnia, sometimes going for days without sleep. Now I sleep much better but the right eye twitch seems correlated with my withdrawal symptoms and worsened by lack of sleep.

July 2012: Started Lexapro 10mg for depression/insomnia
September 2012: 2 week taper, followed by 2 weeks of withdrawals (mostly brain zaps)
August 2013: Started Prozac 10mg for depression/insomnia
October 2013: Upped dosage to 20mg
January 2014: Decreased to 10mg
February 2014: Tapered, 10mg every other day, stopped after 30 days.
March 2014: Withdrawal symptoms: brain zaps, severe dry eye, dizziness, lethargy
April 2014: Withdrawal symptoms are better, but still there

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When I was tapering I had pronounced eye and muscle twitches.  Now I have eye twitching due to insomina.

Poly drugged for 18 years with every psychiatric drug in the PDR. C/t off Seroquel, tapered trazodone, celexa, dalmane, ativan (among others) and have been drug free for years. I thank the heavens I survived.

Link to my Introduction thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2477-aria-my-psych-journey/

Reading my psychiatric records: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/5466-drugged-crazy-reading-my-psychiatric-records/

My Success Story is listed under "Aria's Recovery".

 

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Magnesium is good for twitches.

The only way out is through.

 

Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia

Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn

Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg

End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg

End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg

End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn

April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014

29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever

29 June 2014 - med free

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Oh yes - left eye twitch was annoying as hell. 

I'M A WEANER!  :D 
atavan PRN ,Paxil approx 20 yrs ago for major depression
Switched to Klonopin PRN through to current
Paxil wore out
Changed to Effexor 
Depakote added
enormous weight gain - flat affect - led to depression - dropped depakote
Dropped Effexor, changed to Paxil 
PDoc added mixed salts amphetamines for ADHD - took for 2 yrs - was ok at first but had to cut as symptoms too intense -  then the crash was too much. STOPPED
Vyvanse started in 2013 (APRIL) - more smooth than IR amphetamine tabs---Have not used vyvanse daily in full amt since May 2013 

Paxil CT withdrawal 10/2012  :wacko:  Klonopin CT WD

Switched Klonopin to Xanax prn  - too strong

WD CT from XANAX after taking for a while - it was awful but can be done if you hold on!

Back to Klonopin PRN - working very hard to avoid taking it at all. 

Effexor 37.5 started 02/2013, 75mg by 03/2013, 150mg by 05/2012 (approx)  :blush:

Effexor 150mg 3/10/2014 Microtaper -3beads  :unsure:

3/11/2014-4beads ,3/12/14 - 5, 3/13/14 -6, 3/15/14 - 7, 3/18 - 8, 3/22 - 10, 3/24 - 12, 4/6 - 13, 4/7 - 14, 4/11 - 16 - on 4/19 ran out of brand took generic. Bad move. Back on brand on 4/20 and updosed 2 beads. 5/1 - 15, 5/6 - 16, 5/9 -17, 55/10 -17, 5/15 -18, 5/21 -19, 5/24 -20, 6/3 - 21, 6/6 -23, 6/13 -24,6/19- 25, 6/21 -26, 6/25 -27

6/28 -28, 6/29 -30, 7/3 -34, 7/8 -35, 7/17 -36, 7/30 -41,7/31 -42, 8/2 -43, 8/3 -44, 8/5 -45, 8/14 -48, 8/26-50, 9/24 -53, 10/24 -55, 12/1 -57, (lost the tally sheet, thus taper info for some of it), 4/19-63, 4/26-64, 4/30-65 Switched to wt reduction - now @ -.068, 7/14 -.070, August 2015 -.074, between Sept & October 10 -.077, Nov. -.078(feeling great), -.090 as of 1/10/16, down to  -.101 since January 2016 (it is now 6/24/16), -.105 as of 8/13/16
 
 

Ladies, please don't underestimate the possibility of perimenopause. The symptoms can be similar to, may intensify & in some cases mimic protracted w/d from ssri's & benzo's. 

 

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Yes, me too, had twitches in various body parts, got one now actually.  It seems to be quite common.

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made?



VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes

 

 

 

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Wow, so it seems to be pretty common. Sorry about that.

 

I happened to be looking in a mirror when I got the twitchy feeling, and yeah, my bottom eye lid was actually, noticeably twitching--not just the feeling. It's pretty weird. It's been like 7 weeks since I took the last bit of Prozac so the withdrawal is somewhat fresh.

Tapering Zoloft, Dec 2014

Started Lamictal

Re-started Zoloft mid-Oct 2014, 25-50mg

Stopped Zoloft end of Sept 2014

Started Zoloft July 2014, 50mg

Stopped Prozac from 3mg May 2014

Stopped Effexor Dec '13 Started 10mg Prozac

Reinstated Effexor 15mg on Nov 2013

Stopped from 21mg on Oct 2013
Effexor 112.5mg, since Dec 2012

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arcticmonkey

I started expirencing visual symptoms(visual snow,palinopsia) while back after I tapered off paxil for the first time.Then a few months after the visual symptoms appeared I started taking paxil again, and the visual symptoms improved.Now at a time when I am tapering paxil for the second time the visual symptoms seem to get worse.

 

Do you think that this happens because of a reduction in dosage or because of tapering too fast ?

 

Also has anyone noticed similar symptoms to these ?

Are they persistent or transitory ?

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Hi arcticmonkey,

Visual symptoms such as these are fairly common in antidepressant withdrawal, it could be a sign that you are tapering too fast.  Please would you start a topic for yourself in introductions and updates, then we can get to know you and provide more help with tapering.

 

Here is a link to a thread about eye problems in withdrawal:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/514-eye-problems-and-withdrawal-syndrome/?hl=visual#entry5235

 

Petu.

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made?



VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes

 

 

 

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I have these symptoms really bad... I hope it  gets better for you. Definitely taper slowly. I think for most it gets better but it takes years for some.

2010 - citalopram 10mg 
2011 - 20-40mg, 1 month taper, PSSD & Anhedonia - Elavil 10mg during taper.
Clonazepam when needed after a month of daily use. 
2012 - Off Elavil - Zoloft (sertraline) 25mg - 50 mgs for 6 months + Buspar for a while. Pssd & anhedonia improved on zoloft, now has gotten a lot worse since a year off. 

 

Off all drugs since October 2012.

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After being on Trazadone and Lexapro for nearly 7 years, I started experienceing random moments of vertigo with some moments being extremely transitory and others being enough to sweep me off my feet literally. After 40 hours of appointments, tests and specialists, I was told that non one knew what my problem was (I made it all the way up to seeing an actual neurologist/surgeon and he drew a blank).

 

I finally got in to see my opthamologist and he listened to everything I had to say, flipped the pages in my chart and said "Yeah, that's normal."

 

What?

 

"Well, you're a long-term antideppressant user. We see this all the time in opthalmology. The only way to get past it is to dry out from the antidepressants for about 6 weeks and then go back on them if you still need them."

 

So, it might not be the taper so much as the saturation levels in your body.

 

Good luck.

PjsAndChocolate

  • Trazadone nightly - 1999 through 2014 (50 mgs nightly)
  • Various AD's daily - 1999 through 2014 (settled on Lexapro in 2002)
  • Ritalin daily since 2007 through 2014

Completely off all meds since December 2015

 

 

 

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I merged similar topics.
 
Also see Visual Problems on Anti-depressants (RxISK.org) -- RxISK.org is looking for patient reports of these problems.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I was prescribed glasses last year after suddenly developing bad vision. The optician said there wasn't a particular problem with my eyes - did lots of tests, but it was obvious i wasnt able to focus properly. He asked about medication and did say that antidepressant's can have this side effect.

The glasses helped but gave me headaches.

 

This has got better since reducing my dosage. I haven't had to wear the glasses at all for about 3 months. I just get the drugged kind of vision which is different.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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Lately my lower lid eyeball thing is spazzing - aka twitching. Anyone have this as part of the taper? I did not have this prior to taking ssris but when I went on paxil I had it. It went away after a time. Now as I am tapering, the twitch has returned w intensity and besides looking goofy,  really annoying. 

 

I also have muscle twitching spazz in other areas. Weird areas. 

 

It's very weird. 

 

 

Anyone???

I'M A WEANER!  :D 
atavan PRN ,Paxil approx 20 yrs ago for major depression
Switched to Klonopin PRN through to current
Paxil wore out
Changed to Effexor 
Depakote added
enormous weight gain - flat affect - led to depression - dropped depakote
Dropped Effexor, changed to Paxil 
PDoc added mixed salts amphetamines for ADHD - took for 2 yrs - was ok at first but had to cut as symptoms too intense -  then the crash was too much. STOPPED
Vyvanse started in 2013 (APRIL) - more smooth than IR amphetamine tabs---Have not used vyvanse daily in full amt since May 2013 

Paxil CT withdrawal 10/2012  :wacko:  Klonopin CT WD

Switched Klonopin to Xanax prn  - too strong

WD CT from XANAX after taking for a while - it was awful but can be done if you hold on!

Back to Klonopin PRN - working very hard to avoid taking it at all. 

Effexor 37.5 started 02/2013, 75mg by 03/2013, 150mg by 05/2012 (approx)  :blush:

Effexor 150mg 3/10/2014 Microtaper -3beads  :unsure:

3/11/2014-4beads ,3/12/14 - 5, 3/13/14 -6, 3/15/14 - 7, 3/18 - 8, 3/22 - 10, 3/24 - 12, 4/6 - 13, 4/7 - 14, 4/11 - 16 - on 4/19 ran out of brand took generic. Bad move. Back on brand on 4/20 and updosed 2 beads. 5/1 - 15, 5/6 - 16, 5/9 -17, 55/10 -17, 5/15 -18, 5/21 -19, 5/24 -20, 6/3 - 21, 6/6 -23, 6/13 -24,6/19- 25, 6/21 -26, 6/25 -27

6/28 -28, 6/29 -30, 7/3 -34, 7/8 -35, 7/17 -36, 7/30 -41,7/31 -42, 8/2 -43, 8/3 -44, 8/5 -45, 8/14 -48, 8/26-50, 9/24 -53, 10/24 -55, 12/1 -57, (lost the tally sheet, thus taper info for some of it), 4/19-63, 4/26-64, 4/30-65 Switched to wt reduction - now @ -.068, 7/14 -.070, August 2015 -.074, between Sept & October 10 -.077, Nov. -.078(feeling great), -.090 as of 1/10/16, down to  -.101 since January 2016 (it is now 6/24/16), -.105 as of 8/13/16
 
 

Ladies, please don't underestimate the possibility of perimenopause. The symptoms can be similar to, may intensify & in some cases mimic protracted w/d from ssri's & benzo's. 

 

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I searched the forums for any talk of electrolytes and muscle pain and came up empty so I want to offer a little of my experience as well as describe my confusion. Maybe a bit of venting but I do think I am on to something.

 

The most persistent withdrawal symptom, still with me after almost two years post Zyprexa discontinuation, has been muscular aches, spasms, and twitches that occur in almost every muscle on my head and occasionally down to my shoulders, chest, and upper back. I have these "attacks" that last anywhere from an hour to several days, although mostly they are shorter than 24 hours anymore: I can feel twitches in my cheeks, eyelids, eyebrows, and on the bridge of my nose and down both sides. My jaw muscles start to tighten and it feels like two tiny drill bits are slowly making their way through the skin and muscles at my brow, just above each eye at the inner corner. Often my neck muscles will start to tighten as well. As all these muscles get tighter, I become extremely sensitive to light, my pupils constrict, and the muscles that focus my eyes also begin to tighten and ache. Sometimes the tinnitus that got worse after quitting Zyprexa will become quite loud as well.

 

What I have noticed is this: Magnesium helped a little bit--except for when it made things worse. I mostly used it in water solution topically, but whether it would help or hurt was unpredictable, and taking orally it triggered an extremely intense and painful episode. After that I stopped trying to use it at all because I could not detect any sort of pattern that might help me decide when to use it and when not to.

 

My primary care physician suggested I increase my Klonopin dose, which I have ever so slightly for some time now, and that can help to keep these at bay, but not always, and I am not interested in increasing it any more. I have taken it for several years, and eventually I would like to try coming off of it, but that will not be happening anytime soon that I can tell.

 

A few months ago I had another very intense and painful "attack" after I had eaten a relatively high-sodium meal--it was prepared food that I bought because the kind I usually buy was not available, and I did not look closely at the label until I was in the middle of trying to calm my face down, and I noticed that it had about three times the sodium of my usual fare. It occurred to me that muscular contractions are partially dependent on sodium ion channels that regulate nerve communication, and so because there was nothing much else to be done, I drank a liter of water to see if I could bring my sodium concentration down a bit.

 

It worked! Or, it worked well enough that I made a note of it and started paying greater attention to the effects of salty meals in particular but meals more generally, and I did discover that this cluster of muscle symptoms often occurred right after eating, and that drinking a fair amount of water during and after meals helped quite a lot in calming things down.

 

And so things have been going relatively well with regard to this one little syndrome. I have not had the energy to research things like sodium, calcium, magnesium and potassium levels and how they fluctuate with hydration and food and exercise, but I have been wanting to know more.

 

Well, now I am trying to figure this out a little further. We have had a heat wave this week and I have needed to do a bit more walking than usual (my physical stamina is still shot, but that is another topic sort of..)  in this heat. I sweat like a horse and have done so for several years (topic number three!) when it is warmer than 40F out; at 80F and higher, you would think I was living in Death Valley. Water drips from me as though I were a not-very-well-hidden spring!

 

I try to stay hydrated out on the street, but once I come home the face muscle pain has been starting up, accompanied by nausea and regular old headaches and just overall feeling lousy. Yesterday I drank two and a half liters of water after coming in and drying off, but while I was replenishing the H2O, it occurred to me that since I had sweat most of it out, I was probably also now dealing with low electrolyte levels instead of high ones. And so I have been trying to find a way to intuitively balance food and water intake to even things out again, but it has been very tricky so far. Yesterday and today I left the house for a little while and then spent the majority of the rest of my waking hours guessing at what might help the pain and nausea subside.

 

I am thinking of picking up some sort of electrolyte liquid supplement, like Pedia-Lyte or whatever else might be available, to see if it is any quicker to help.

 

I am so tired of this. And  I am so tired of being tired, which exacerbates everything else!

 

But if anyone has any insight to add here, I would very much like to hear/see it. It is very difficult for me to focus on hard research, but even looking at abstracts of studies that are related in any way to muscle action, electrolytes, calcium and sodium ion channels might be of value. I am just not sure where to start and my old grad school search skills are also flagging just out of fatigue. And it is frustrating to know that research should be done on xyz but nobody has done any yet. Kind of discouraging, you know?

 

Erik

Erik
poet. skeptic. laughs in the face of death ha!


Rx Hx: (Dates and doses 1999-2012 are approximate)
Dec 1997 started on Paxil.
thru 1999ish: every SSRI in existence, one at a time, except for Prozac...
2000: Prozac 40mg; added Zyprexa 5-10mg 

2004: began Buprenorphine, 40mg
2005: Prozac 60mg; Zyprexa 5-7.5mg; added Klonopin avg 1.5mg/day PRN
2006: Prozac 80mg; Zyprexa 5mg; Klonopin avg ~1mg PRN then down to 0.5mg by 2012
May, 2012: signs of tardive dyskinesia. Begin Zyprexa "taper": 2.5mg
late July, 2012: Zyprexa 1.25mg
early Aug, 2012: discontinued Zyprexa

     a little later Aug, 2012: GI disturbances, nausea, appetite loss, disturbed sleep, body temperature dysregulation, fatigue, sweating, headaches, beginning of rapid weight loss
Dec 2012: Prozac causing stomach pain; reduced to 60mg
Jan 2013-present: muscle pain and spasms in face, jaw, neck, shoulders, chest

5 Dec 2013: GP suggests increase in Klonopin for muscle spasms

Currently (Dec 2013): 60mg Prozac, 0.875 mg Klonopin, 40mg Buprenorphine

     nausea, headaches, muscle spasms, tardive dyskinesia continue;

     appetite back, increase in energy and in apparent metabolic rate

"mental" reactions since stopping Zyprexa: intermittent increase in obsessional thinking, extra emotional zing

     treatment: sitting meditation 50 min once or twice a day PRN

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overcomer58

I too still have painless muscle twitches that bounce from one body part to the next.. and right now for the past week they have been on my eyelids.. then are gone as soon as they appear. This has been going on now for almost a year. I also get these headaches that then make my body really hot and I sometimes get a little confused.. I had gotten Serotonin Toxicity for the month of August 17th - Sept 22,2013.. and have for the most part gotten Waaayyyy better.. but these twitches, and the fatigue.. I am so tired of being tired.. and so done with these twitches.. I try NOT to focus on them.. but when they are on your eyelids..its almost impossible to NOT notice. Blah!! :-) I have had so many tests ran, ALL of my vitamins look fine, but D-- that was really low.. Potassium, Calcium, B's, all fine.. But I do try to increase my Calcium with my Vitamin D levels being so low.. and that when I keep up seems to help out a bit more.. I am just tired of this whole experience and want it all to be over.. I look back at where I came from and I have hope that this too wil pass.. and one day I will feel myself again.. Until then, I too drink lots of water, try to cut back on sugars, and am preparing to eat a clean- diet, free from processed foods and more fruits and veggies.. 

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I too have experienced random and painless muscle twitching on and off now for almost a year after WD from Sertraline/ Serotonin Toxicity ( 8/17-9/22/13)

I am ready for them to end, and the fatigue. They are now on my eyelids.. Lame. :-) Other than that, so many of the other intense symptoms have resided and I can see wholeness in the future. 

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Did anyone develope eye floaters in their withdrawling or while on SSRI?

 

I developed it around 6 months off ssri and still have it now 15 months off, they dont bother me and i see them most clear when i look up at a blue sky.

 

 

2007 - 2013: was on citalopram (tried to quit a few times, never worked, always went back on. max dose 40mg)

2012-2013: was tapering my citalopram all down to 2,5 mg then quit.
2013/aug: Took  my last pill 

W/D hit me bad after a few weeks off my medicine.

2014/August: 12 months off (much improved)

2015/April: 20months off. ( much improved, still some symtoms comes in waves, but not so intense.)

2015/june: 22months off. FELT different than before, all shakings suddenly stopped, feel much better. a fantastic feeling!

2016/Feb : 2 years and 6 months off, END of my suffering. I feel perfectly fine and back to normal. 
2018/Oct: Iam still feeling great. It is hard to believe my own story when I read back, what I went through!

 

 

 

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I had bright lighting during sleep during taper but not when I'm awake. See the link below for this problem from another member.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6982-goldieloc-my-introduction-trying-to-stop-lexapro-more/

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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Hello fellow travellers,

 

Trying to squeeze this this question in before my computer crashes again. :mad:

 

My right eye is hurting like all hell and the globe feels swollen, tears run from the corner of this eye, and my left eye hurts but is not so bad.

 

I've made an appointment with an opthamologist for Wednesday 7th to try and have it sorted.  I can only read the big on the eye chart when I visited my GP last week, hence appointment with specialist.

 

I just looked up "eye problems" and Mirtazapine and read that yes, eye problems can occur when taking the drug, but as can be expected nothing on when withdrawing.

 

Has anyone else experienced problems with their eyes whilst on, or withdrawing from Mirtazapine or other AD's?

 

Sorry that this last bit is in bold and larger font.  It's this bloody computer and has a mind of it's own.

 

I hope this reaches you as don't know whether it will even allow me to send.

 

My best to you all friends.

 

as always, steeley 

Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago.  PTSD 

 

C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish

Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks

now:

5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer

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Well, Steeley, that bold font sure made me sit up and take notice this early in the morning. :P

 

I was thinking that this post, because it is so specific to you, really belongs in your thread but I decided to leave it and see if anyone comments. Let us know what you find.

 

My thinking is this: It is a good idea you are going to see someone about it. WD symptoms are usually felt bilaterally (both sides) because it is a 'whole body' thing. One eye sounds like you have something wrong with just it.

 

As I was sliding into protracted withdrawal last year, the first thing I noticed was a feeling of pressure above my left eye and when I looked in the mirror, my left eyebrow looked permanently raised (it is still higher than the right, maybe sleeping on that side had now made it permanent rearrangement of my face and I just never noticed it before). Doc thought I had a sinus infection and recommended I take my existing script for atarax as it is a rx antihistamine. That was a BIG mistake.

 

So let us know what you find and if no on else comments I'll move this to your thread.

What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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Dear Cymbalta,

 

Thank you so much for your reply.  I hope that this reaches you given my crappy computer.

 

Thanks for the bilateral explanation, which was very reassuring and comforting.  So many things crop up in WD that it's hard to tell the forest from the trees.  Seeing specialist tomorrow. 

 

I put my question into the "Symptoms and Self care" forum because I thought that was where I was supposed to put my/our "symptoms". :unsure:  

 

When you say you were thinking about moving it to "my thread" do you mean mean into the "Intruduction and Updates" Forum?

 

Is that the place people go to follow how people are progressing, rather than a journal/diary type thing which existed in the site that will not pass my lips? 

 

I didn't think anyone would read my diary so took a punt and went to "Symptoms and SelfCare".

 

My font sizes are all over the shop, but this one looks like it's working.  I'll try a "smiley" just to practice, and hope it does not send this post to the Never Never.     

 

Thank you so much for your help.  Please God send me a new computer. :) I promise I'll be good. :blush:

 

As always ..... steeley

Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago.  PTSD 

 

C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish

Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks

now:

5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer

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Hi Steeley, I'm not on mirt, but it is interesting to see this about eyes becase a couple of weeks ago I was thinking of posting about eye stuff too.  My eyes seemed to be more watery and if I rubbed them they felt kind of sore like they were bruised or swollen.  It was only mild though, just annoying rather than really upsetting.  I had it for a few weeks but it seems to have gone now.  My eyesight has deteriorated a lot over the past few years, but at least some of that could be down to age.

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 July 2.9mg  16 Sep 2.8mg  25 Oct 2.7mg

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Steely,

 

Although I don't think I've had eye issues as severe as yours sounds at the moment, I have had eye pain and vision issues with SSRI withdrawal. Sometimes I feel like I have mild double vision and blurriness. It's so annoying...

I get eye pain too but it seems to be related to a headache as well. Do you also have headaches with eye pain? It could be eye strain too. I know my eyes sometimes just get exhausted from the blurriness/ and being unfocused. Staring at the computer or cell phone all the time doesn't help with the eye issues either. :/ Sometimes the eyes just need a break from all that. I also have eye floaters! Those are so annoying too and seem common with withdrawal. AND my eyes are so sensitive to light. I wear sunglasses on cloudy days so I would say yes eye issues happen during withdrawal. When my eyes feel swollen they are usually more light sensitive that day. Do you wear contacts or glasses? I went to the eye doctor too and basically my vision and eye health was great except I barely had astigmatism but was given glasses for reading anyway. I don't use them like I should lol. But I never had so many eye issues until I went through withdrawal. It is good you are going to the eye doctor to make sure.

I started out on zoloft 50 mg or 20mg (can't remember at that point) and was on it for a few months then decided I didn't want to take it because of the side effects so I cold turkey'd it and then was miserable and reinstated and all my symptoms went away and I felt normal. Stayed on it for a while tried lexapro 5mg for a month or two instead to see if I had less side effects. Then switched back to zoloft 20mg I think and weaned down to 6mg and jumped off too soon because it supposedly wasn't a "therapeutic dose" and was told it would be ok. Then I was going through withdrawal again so I reinstated again after about a month I switched to prozac because it's easier to wean off of supposedly. Weaned off over 9 month from 8mg Prozac. Then two months after stopping it on September 2, 2014. I went into withdrawal.

 

18 months off as of March 2, 2016

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A few years ago I suddenly developed floaters in both eyes, lots of them, some of them quite big.  I immediately got my eyes checked and they didn't find anything wrong.  Back then my eyesight was still good.  The floaters are very annoying and get in my way when trying to read.  I don't know for sure that they are related to the AD, but I do suspect they may be.

2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 July 2.9mg  16 Sep 2.8mg  25 Oct 2.7mg

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Hi, Steely, I just saw your post about an eye problem and thought I'd throw out my experience. I've been off mirtazapine for 3.4 years. I took anywhere from 45 to 135 mg for eleven years. Six months ago an opthamologist found I have a deteriorating optic nerve in both eyes and called it "normal pressure glaucoma". I tried drops for a couple of weeks until they started making my eyes burn and discharge like crazy. A few months before that I had my vitamin b12 levels measured and found them to be 268 which is probably a deficiency in someone experiencing anxiety and depression which I do have and have had since WD ( and while on drugs!).

 

A deficiency of b 12 can lead to optic nerve degeneration. The opthamologist agreed this could be the real reason behind the degeneration. I have tried supplements off and on a few times since and now I can't even get by with 250 mcg. I get worse stimulation than feel normally.

 

Anyway, I hope your exam showed no big issues but I would be curious what he found.

I started withdrawing off remeron in August of 2009, with the help of a holistic physician.The reason for the withdrawal was a year or two of off and on nausea, deterioration in my thinking, and more depression. It took me a full year to work from 135 mg down to 45mg. At that point, more drops were causing more depression. Unfortuately, the nervousness that I was also feeling for the last year continued with the 45 mg. Thirty one days ago, I stopped the remeron. I am still feeling the nervousness every day and the last week, I am feeling what I think is depression but not sure. In bed in the morning, I'm already dreading another day feeling this way. I am intensely unsure of myself and find it very hard to do anything. I was a practicing veterinarian for 29 years until I found I could not practice anymore. First of all I couldn't think, or remember, and I had absolutely no confidence in anything I did. These were things I did with relative ease for twenty+ years. So, this feeling of no confidence has been during the time I was on the AD(the last 2 years) and today. I take no other medication other than my blood pressure meds. I tried supplements with my holistic dr. but they seemed to make the intense nervousness even more intense. Anyway, I truly feel stuck.

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I wonder if people experience any problem with vision. It seems that my eye sight got worse. Especially in one eye...is this wtthdrawal and does it go away?

- 30.09.2020- reduced doxepin to 125mg, 16.10.2020- 100mg, 6.11.2020- 75mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long terms of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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