Jon99

[Jon99]

Hi guys, I took Venlafaxine and mirtacapine for about 6years. Tapered off venla now in between 3 months which was already a nightmare but now after the tapering of the mirtacapine I feel even worse. I am at a point where I never believed I could ever be.. Even having suicidal thoughts again. I am at 0 now with venla for about 4 months and at 0 with mirtacapine for about 3 weeks. Right now I feel so bad with huge depression, Intense anxiety and rumination. I was having hope due to the support of a holistic doc and a good friend but now I lost hope that I can handle myself any longer with those symptoms that strong. Doing meditation, supplement support, wim hof breathing, walks, sun exposure bit still find myself in the worst place I could possibly be right now and believe I do need some outsidr help even though my holistic doc still believes my buddy can handle it. Are u guys having been in that spot? Any suggestions like acupuncture, ketamine or sth else entirely?? Help so much appreciated 

[Sunnyday]

Hi @Jon99 and welcome,

I am very sorry to hear about your situation. And yes, we are many who are and have been in this situation unfortunately. That's why I'm convinced you like the rest will recover. It might just take some time. How long it will take differs a lot from person to person. For some it can take a few months, and for some it takes longer. To maybe get a better understanding of what you might be experiencing, these two topics can be useful:

 

What is withdrawal syndrome?

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

 

Would you mind writing your signature according to the link below? It will make it easier for us to get the most important information and better help you.

 

How to write your signature

 

Reinstatement usually seem to work 3 months within your last dose, but it's never guaranteed to work. If you do this, we recommend to start at a very low dose and only change one drug at a time. This topic explains it well:

 

About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms

 

After reinstatement it can usually be tapered a lot slower and for many that seems to help prevent symptoms a bit better. That's why we recommend to taper this way:

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

Since many are so sensitive in withdrawal, any substances can make withdrawal worse, even if we were able to handle those things well before. This can be worth to keep in mind both regarding the marijuana but also things like alcohol or seemingly harmless supplements. 
The only two supplements we usually recommend are omega-3 and magnesium. Those have been helpful to many. Just make sure as with anything to start at a low dose and only try one thing at a time. So that if you get worsened symptoms you will know the cause and can manage it better.

 

Magnesium

 

Omega-3

 

This can be a lot of information to take in, so feel free to see my post as a reference rather than something you have to read through right away. The signature is a good first step.
Have you had any days or moments since you stopped the drugs where you feel it is a little easier?

 

 

Edited December 21, 2020 by Sunnyday