Planningforsuccess Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Hello, I have had a rough year that all started with me just looking for help with sleep and was eventually prescribed Zeprexa, which I foolishly took for 5 months. I then went to a psychiatrist to get off them. She prescribed Klonipin, which I took for 2 months at 1mg, have not taken them for 17 days now. Still taking Buspar, which will be tapered completely tomorrow and Remeron for last two months at 15mg. I'd like advise on Remeron taper as my Dr wants me to lower to 7.5 mg to start, suggestions? Link to comment
Moderator hayduke Posted November 13, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2021 Hello and welcome to SA @Planningforsuccess Please start by listing your drug history in your signature. Dates, amounts and changes will help us see your drug history more clearly and provide better assistance. When you changed between all these drugs, did you just stop taking one and start the other, or cross taper? I am not a health professional - your actions are your own. Please do not seek tapering support via private message - "Any reason to hold is a good one" My taper visualised as a graph | My intro thread Backdrop: 2003 10mg olanzapine | 2004 2-3mg risperidone | end 2014 3wks aripiprazole 2015: olanzapine 10 -> 7½ -> 6⅔ -> 5mg by crude pill cutter 2018: Mar 5.00mg -> water titrated taper -> Aug2.5mg tablet and hold Jan 2019 2.50mg water titration -> Jan 2020 1.214 -> Jan 2021 0.44 -> 2 Oct 0.205 ->3 Oct ZERO🥂 Jun 2023 💉150mg paliperidone "loading" depot shot, 100mg week after Jul 100mg Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov 75mg/4wks Jul 2023 2.50mg aripiprazole/day attempt to lower prolactin^ Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country did to you" -- KMFDM Link to comment
Mentor Faure Posted November 13, 2021 Mentor Share Posted November 13, 2021 My psychiatrist said to just go from 15mg to 7.5 in one go, stay there for a week and then stop. I tried this twice. It doesn’t work. Raging insomnia within days and I reinstated immediately, fortunately with no problems. Then I got into big trouble skipping days - don’t do this! Now I am doing the BrassMonkey slide which is very smooth for me. Well done for coming here for advice, do be sure to do all your research first ☺️ I am not a medical professional. I provide information and make suggestions based on my own experience and SA guidelines. I am unable to respond to private messages. Mirtazepine 15mg Nov 2018 -April 2019 April - Sept 2019 Mirtazepine down to around 6mg - skipping days to taper October 2019 - Dec 2019 unwell from failed taper including jumping about in doses 15 December 2019 to 13 June 2021 15mg Mirtazepine 14 June 2021 started brass monkey Slide. 2021: 23 August 12.3mg, 28 October 11.1mg, 6 Dec 10mg 2022: 12 Feb 8.5, 25 Oct 4.5mg 2023: 16 Jan 3.6mg, 28 Sept 1.8mg Link to comment
Planningforsuccess Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 I tapered from one to the other and now just have the remeron left. I've only been on it 2 months and it's hard to imagine a taper that will take double that time or more. How long were you taking it before you tried cutting to 7.5 and then zero? Link to comment
Kiasofia Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 After a month your brain will have adapted to the drug, but it's very individual how much it will have adapted and how fast you can taper. We advise decreasing by no more than 10% of current dose every 4 weeks. Some can taper faster and some must go slower. I found this post helpful to understand what is going on and why healing takes time: How Psychiatric Drugs Remodel Your Brain Here are some links about tapering: Tips for tapering off mirtazapine (Remeron) Why taper by 10% of my dosage? NEVER SKIP DOSES TO TAPER Why taper? Importance of gradual change in plasma concentration Coming off these drugs can cause many different withdrawal symptoms, often leading to doctors thinking the original condition is returning or that another mental illness has emerged. What is withdrawal syndrome? Dr. Joseph Glenmullen's withdrawal symptom checklist When we recover, there are times of feeling OK mixed in with times of feeling bad. This is called windows and waves. The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization The search function on this site doesn't work very well. The best way to search this site for specific information is to use your favorite search engine. Type in survivingantidepressants.org then the symptom, treatment, supplement or information you wish to search for. To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature following these instructions: How to List Drug History in Signature To make sure someone sees your post write @ and then start typing their username so it becomes blue. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I have learned, not medical advice. Drug history 2002-2019 Citalopram/Escitalopram, Lamictal 2019 April Escitalopram, quit at 10mg (withdrawal), Oct Escitalopram 10mg reinstated, quit after a few days (adverse reaction) 2019 Oct Lamictal cut from 200mg to 100mg 2019 Dec Lithium 83x2 mg 2020 Aug-Nov Lamictal tapered to 50 mg 2020 Nov 24 Lithium taper started, 30 Jan off Lithium 2021 15. March-31. May Lamictal tapered to 32.5 mg (holding) 2022 10. Jan started taking 25mg+5mg+2mg+0.5 liquid, 22. Jan went back to taking 25mg+5mg+half 5mg Link to comment
Mentor Faure Posted November 16, 2021 Mentor Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 3:01 PM, Planningforsuccess said: I tapered from one to the other and now just have the remeron left. I've only been on it 2 months and it's hard to imagine a taper that will take double that time or more. How long were you taking it before you tried cutting to 7.5 and then zero? About 3 months. Tried again after about 2 more months. Finally skipped days - got very unstable. Returned to 15mg but it was v difficult, it took about 3 -4 months for my body to adjust to the dose and I was exhausted & unstable throughout, unable to work. Pandemic started & I was able to return to small amounts of work. Took over a year to stabilise emotionally. After another 7 months I started the BrassMonkey taper which is going so well I can’t quite believe it. I’m still working only very part time but am gradually able to do more as the dose reduces. 1 I am not a medical professional. I provide information and make suggestions based on my own experience and SA guidelines. I am unable to respond to private messages. Mirtazepine 15mg Nov 2018 -April 2019 April - Sept 2019 Mirtazepine down to around 6mg - skipping days to taper October 2019 - Dec 2019 unwell from failed taper including jumping about in doses 15 December 2019 to 13 June 2021 15mg Mirtazepine 14 June 2021 started brass monkey Slide. 2021: 23 August 12.3mg, 28 October 11.1mg, 6 Dec 10mg 2022: 12 Feb 8.5, 25 Oct 4.5mg 2023: 16 Jan 3.6mg, 28 Sept 1.8mg Link to comment
Planningforsuccess Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Advice needed Hello, I just met with my psychiatrist and advised how Mirtz is impacting me negatively. On 15 mg for last 3 months and she said to stop today and start taking fluvoxamine 50 mg. Should I be concerned about stopping abruptly and starting a new one? I'm trying to stop these meds. Edited December 3, 2021 by ChessieCat added topic title before merging with intro topic Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted December 3, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 3, 2021 As requested by hayduke and Kiasofia above, please create your drug signature following these instructions: Instructions: Withdrawal History Signature Your drug signature allows the staff to see your drug history at a glance and saves them time because they do not have read back through your posts to get the information. Please update it whenever you make a change. I will let the other mods know that you need assistance. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted December 3, 2021 Administrator Share Posted December 3, 2021 Hello, @Planningforsuccess We'd like to know more about your drug history and whether you have withdrawal symptoms from any of the drugs you've gone off so far. In general, we don't advise changing another drug when you already have withdrawal symptoms. If you don't care to supply that information, you can do it yourself without counseling from the staff, see Tips for tapering off mirtazapine (Remeron) This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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