slowphie Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Hi. I’ve been awake since 3:40am, shaking, trembling and crying because of the mess I’m in. I’ve been experiencing lorazepam withdrawal after staying on it reluctantly, lonnger than I wanted, convinced by doctors. The rebound lack of appetite and insomnia was making me miserable and I started Mirtazapine. I asked the psychiatrist if this could be difficult to stop, if it would turn me into a life-long insomniac, and he said it would be “fine”. 😞 I should have known to stop trusting doctors at that point, I feel so stupid. Earlier this week, someone in the benzorecovery subreddit warned me about Mirta and I started researching and realising how difficult this could be to stop too. Since then, I have been waking up every night after 2-4 hours shaking and paralyzed with anxiety, feeling so sick and overwhelmed. I almost feel hopeless, like giving up. How do you guys deal with the anticipatory anxiety of tapering? I don’t know what to do, I don’t know who to ask for help. I don’t know how to calm myself down rn, I don’t know how to stop being afraid. I feel like I’ve screwed myself and wish I had just accepted the rebound insomnia. I know some people personally who have been on Mirta and stopped CT after 5/8 weeks without issues, another friend was on for 18 months and tapered for 3 months okay. However, what I’ve read here makes me feel like that even with a 2 year taper, I’m going to be sick, mostly at home, not having a life for years. Can anyone give me any sense of hope? Sorry for this ramble, I’m just feeling so so lost, hopeless and alone. I look at photos from 5 months ago and cry my eyes out, I just don’t understand how my life got to this point. 😭 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserMan1775 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 You need to get back on lorazepam, even a low dose like take a 0.5mg, you need to stablize you jumped too quick, how long did you taper for? Klonopin Mar 2013 - Feb 2021 - used .000 gram scale to cut pills did very slowly from 2017-2021, had no issues stopping after final dose that was sub .5mg diazepam equivalent (If anyone wants advice for tapering Klonopin with a gram scale, feel free to ask!) tapered off zyprexa twice over 2 weeks in my 20's, had little issue with that after about 3-4 years of use both times. Prozac 40MG for 5 years - 2016 - 2021 (Total of 13 years of consecutive use) (Most recent after last break, been on cumulatively in my life 14 years all times combined, 3 separate on/off occasions, all successful except most recent 3/4) Recent Issue: Tapered gradually from 40MG down to 0MG from May 7th - Aug 18th Felt fine through Oct 5th, slowly started getting depression, panic, and anxiety (Was original thing I was treated for) Decided to go back on SSRI Nov 1st, reacted very bad to 20mg reinstatement, day 1 was fine, day 2 had ADR. Doctor said to drop dosage. Took 5mg for 2 weeks, 10mg for 2 weeks, still felt physically sick, could not take 20mg for more than 3 days, looking for advice going forward (ADR) Not happy about it, but on 1.5mg 3x ativan and temazepam 15mg for sleep (Was sleeping 2-3 hrs nightly prior to temazepam, was first thing that broke 2-3 hr then wide awake sleep cycle) Main symptoms: headaches from certain foods and meds, sleep is broken, anxiety and agitation is extremely high, cortisol spike sensitive, bad in morning better at night, panic attacks, concentration is awful, focus is awful, anhedonia is awful, sensitive to light and noise, especially noise, extreme depression, intense bouts of fear, every looks and feels 'scary' at times, stress tolerance extremely low, have bouts of extreme anxiety, and bouts akathesia, and bouts extreme anticipatory anxiety over basic events/tasks. Nervous system is clearly crashed. No Prozac for 249 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowphie Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 No way, I’m not going back on lorazepam. It’s almost been a month. I jumped from 0.25mg and a lot of the benzo WD symptoms are fading. I just started having insane anxiety after reading a lot of Mirtazapine horror stories. I’m scared 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Onmyway Posted January 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2022 Hi @slowphie I am sorry that you are struggling with these feelings of anxiety - they are likely exacerbated by the withdrawal. Please find the thread on neuroemotions on the site. These kinds of obsessive thoughts and fears are part of the withdrawal symptoms. You may or may not have withdrawal effects from mirtazapine especially now that you know how to taper slowly. Withdrawal can be minimized by proper tapering. Even if you did have some withdrawal effects they will likely be minimal with proper tapering and holding. Are you familiar with CBT at all? You are catastrophizing and fortunetelling. Have a look here. https://positivepsychology.com/cognitive-distortions/ Hope you feel better soon OMW "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowphie Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 Thank you, really appreciate that 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepymagic Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 7:19 PM, slowphie said: No way, I’m not going back on lorazepam. It’s almost been a month. I jumped from 0.25mg and a lot of the benzo WD symptoms are fading. I just started having insane anxiety after reading a lot of Mirtazapine horror stories. I’m scared I’m not sure why that individual told you to reinstate the benzo. I would definitely not reinstate if I were you. I am in a similar situation. I recently finished withdrawing from Klonopin (a benzo) and am now withdrawing from Amitriptyline, a sedating antidepressant. I am extremely scared too. My psych has already said she wants to give me Mirtazapine after I finish the Amitriptyline. I said no. What I am trying to remember is that while all psych withdrawal can be bad, benzos are particularly known for their horrific withdrawal side effects. There are who people withdraw from antidepressants with little symptoms. Remember that the people on this site are here to find community due bad withdrawal. There are people who taper from antidepressants like Mirtazapine fine. Try not to read too many horror stories. Current medications: Propranolol 40 mg (Feb. 11, 2022- present); Amitriptyline 80 mg (Mar 16, 2022-present); Amitriptyline 85 mg (Jan 20, 2022-Mar 15, 2022); Amitriptyline 100 mg (April 2021-Jan 20, 2022) Recent withdrawals: Klonopin 2 mg (2020-2021) (Klonopin free as of Nov. 2021!) Lamotrigine 200 mg (2020-2021); Seroquel 50 mg (2021) Past medications: Ambien (briefly in 2021); Symbyax (briefly in 2020); Mirtazapine (briefly in 2020); Zoloft (briefly in 2020) Trazodone 150 mg (2015-2020); Venlafaxine 150 mg (2015-2020) Wellbutrin (briefly in 2015); Xanax (briefly in 2015); Buspar (briefly in 2015); Prozac (one month in 2015) Lexapro and/or Celexa (2010-2015) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowphie Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Hey, thanks so much for the response! How are you feeling after jumping off Klonopin? I’m day 48 free, and whilst many side effects have faded - thankfully, I’m still left with really bad fatigue, horrendous blurry vision, some headaches and feeling too hot frequently. I’m really hoping to slowly start tapering off Mirtazapine at day 90. Good luck with your next taper. ☺️ 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepymagic Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, slowphie said: Hey, thanks so much for the response! How are you feeling after jumping off Klonopin? I’m day 48 free, and whilst many side effects have faded - thankfully, I’m still left with really bad fatigue, horrendous blurry vision, some headaches and feeling too hot frequently. I’m really hoping to slowly start tapering off Mirtazapine at day 90. Good luck with your next taper. ☺️ I was feeling pretty good overall. Way better than during withdrawal! For two months after I took my last dose, things were almost normal, with the exception of a few lingering symptoms like panic. This week has been hard; I did my first Amitriptyline cut last week and I do feel it. But I am trying to be hopeful that it is temporary. I think waiting until day 90 is a good idea. I waited 60 days and I wonder if that was too soon. Current medications: Propranolol 40 mg (Feb. 11, 2022- present); Amitriptyline 80 mg (Mar 16, 2022-present); Amitriptyline 85 mg (Jan 20, 2022-Mar 15, 2022); Amitriptyline 100 mg (April 2021-Jan 20, 2022) Recent withdrawals: Klonopin 2 mg (2020-2021) (Klonopin free as of Nov. 2021!) Lamotrigine 200 mg (2020-2021); Seroquel 50 mg (2021) Past medications: Ambien (briefly in 2021); Symbyax (briefly in 2020); Mirtazapine (briefly in 2020); Zoloft (briefly in 2020) Trazodone 150 mg (2015-2020); Venlafaxine 150 mg (2015-2020) Wellbutrin (briefly in 2015); Xanax (briefly in 2015); Buspar (briefly in 2015); Prozac (one month in 2015) Lexapro and/or Celexa (2010-2015) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowphie Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Ugh, I’m sorry it’s tough, but that’s amazing you were already feeling better. I really want to get Mirtazapine lowered because I’m worried about how it could be impacting my health, but I still feel so unhealthy. 😞 It’s so frustrating to know that all of this was preventable, and I got into this mess by very reluctantly going along with doctors. I hope you feel better soon! 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepymagic Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 6:05 AM, slowphie said: Ugh, I’m sorry it’s tough, but that’s amazing you were already feeling better. I really want to get Mirtazapine lowered because I’m worried about how it could be impacting my health, but I still feel so unhealthy. 😞 It’s so frustrating to know that all of this was preventable, and I got into this mess by very reluctantly going along with doctors. I hope you feel better soon! I hope you feel better too! I feel your frustration since this was all preventable. I hope it fades for us all and is just a bad memory! Current medications: Propranolol 40 mg (Feb. 11, 2022- present); Amitriptyline 80 mg (Mar 16, 2022-present); Amitriptyline 85 mg (Jan 20, 2022-Mar 15, 2022); Amitriptyline 100 mg (April 2021-Jan 20, 2022) Recent withdrawals: Klonopin 2 mg (2020-2021) (Klonopin free as of Nov. 2021!) Lamotrigine 200 mg (2020-2021); Seroquel 50 mg (2021) Past medications: Ambien (briefly in 2021); Symbyax (briefly in 2020); Mirtazapine (briefly in 2020); Zoloft (briefly in 2020) Trazodone 150 mg (2015-2020); Venlafaxine 150 mg (2015-2020) Wellbutrin (briefly in 2015); Xanax (briefly in 2015); Buspar (briefly in 2015); Prozac (one month in 2015) Lexapro and/or Celexa (2010-2015) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowphie Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 Thank you! Me too. I really look forward to the days when this is all behind me, nothing but a bad, blurry memory. I actually started blogging about this experience in the meantime, so I’m not bottling up my thoughts, and to perhaps spread even a tiny bit of awareness. I’m so disgusted by psychiatry and the total lack of informed consent. 😤 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasherr Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 @slowphie I think we all here are pretty much dissapointed that people that are supposed to be healers are in fact making problem worse, from what I've seen moderators advise to first stabilise and then start with tapering, as too fast a taper may make things worse Duloxetine 2016/17 - 30/60mg/30mg, c/t, light WD. Sertraline June 2019 50mg ADR Clorazepate June 2019 20-15-10mg for 3 weeks then sparsely until 2022, 2 times per month max and very low dose (5mg) Clorazepate Jan2022 10mg 5 days 2,5mg 2 days then off Venlafaxine June 2019 75mg ADR, 17,5mg, titrated to 37,5mg Venlafaxine Jan 2022 Covid, hard ADR on 37,5mg, reduced to 20mg ADR, tried ct, crash, Venlafaxine 22Jan22 reinstated 9,4mg, too low/ 01Feb22- 12mg/ 12Feb- 11,25mg/ 16Feb- 11mg/ 20Feb- 10,8mg/ 24Feb22-10,575mg/ 16Mar22- 10,46mg/ 26Mar22- 10,35mg/ 26Apr22- 10mg/ 01Oct- 9,9mg/ 13Nov- 9,7mg 01Jan24-7,5mg MAR24 Due to another sudden intolerance had to fast taper venlafaxine to 1,14mg Seems like all of this time I was in benzo withdrawal, because when I took it now in desperation to help it made me feel worse, tried reinstatement first 1mg, then 0,05mg both made me feel worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowphie Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 @Vasherrhey, yes… I’m definitely trying to be careful. However, Mirtazapine isn’t making me sleepy at all anymore, and I think it’s actually causing headaches and might even be contributing to my vision problems. So I’m going to have to try cutting it down a little, I’ll start with 2% drops though. If I could survive a benzo rapid taper (not by choice, I got pushed into it), I hope my brain will be able to handle a 2% drop. 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasherr Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 @slowphie I too am planning to do a very small drop after I stabilise to test the waters, because I need to be able to go to work, so from my perspective it is a reasonable idea Duloxetine 2016/17 - 30/60mg/30mg, c/t, light WD. Sertraline June 2019 50mg ADR Clorazepate June 2019 20-15-10mg for 3 weeks then sparsely until 2022, 2 times per month max and very low dose (5mg) Clorazepate Jan2022 10mg 5 days 2,5mg 2 days then off Venlafaxine June 2019 75mg ADR, 17,5mg, titrated to 37,5mg Venlafaxine Jan 2022 Covid, hard ADR on 37,5mg, reduced to 20mg ADR, tried ct, crash, Venlafaxine 22Jan22 reinstated 9,4mg, too low/ 01Feb22- 12mg/ 12Feb- 11,25mg/ 16Feb- 11mg/ 20Feb- 10,8mg/ 24Feb22-10,575mg/ 16Mar22- 10,46mg/ 26Mar22- 10,35mg/ 26Apr22- 10mg/ 01Oct- 9,9mg/ 13Nov- 9,7mg 01Jan24-7,5mg MAR24 Due to another sudden intolerance had to fast taper venlafaxine to 1,14mg Seems like all of this time I was in benzo withdrawal, because when I took it now in desperation to help it made me feel worse, tried reinstatement first 1mg, then 0,05mg both made me feel worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowphie Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 @Vasherr I understand. Slow and steady wins the race! I’m officially on sick leave, so I don’t need to worry about work… I do miss being productive, but as a designer, there’s no chance with my drug/withdrawal induced vision problems as they are atm. 😞 hoping your taper will be really smooth. 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasherr Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 @slowphie Thank You very much, I too am hopeful that my taper will go without difficulties, and wish You the same My sick leave ends in a week, I'm pretty lucky that I work from home, because going to the office would be pretty much terrifying right now 😜 Duloxetine 2016/17 - 30/60mg/30mg, c/t, light WD. Sertraline June 2019 50mg ADR Clorazepate June 2019 20-15-10mg for 3 weeks then sparsely until 2022, 2 times per month max and very low dose (5mg) Clorazepate Jan2022 10mg 5 days 2,5mg 2 days then off Venlafaxine June 2019 75mg ADR, 17,5mg, titrated to 37,5mg Venlafaxine Jan 2022 Covid, hard ADR on 37,5mg, reduced to 20mg ADR, tried ct, crash, Venlafaxine 22Jan22 reinstated 9,4mg, too low/ 01Feb22- 12mg/ 12Feb- 11,25mg/ 16Feb- 11mg/ 20Feb- 10,8mg/ 24Feb22-10,575mg/ 16Mar22- 10,46mg/ 26Mar22- 10,35mg/ 26Apr22- 10mg/ 01Oct- 9,9mg/ 13Nov- 9,7mg 01Jan24-7,5mg MAR24 Due to another sudden intolerance had to fast taper venlafaxine to 1,14mg Seems like all of this time I was in benzo withdrawal, because when I took it now in desperation to help it made me feel worse, tried reinstatement first 1mg, then 0,05mg both made me feel worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestill Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just popping in over here. I think you will do well with the 2% taper to start with. I am also hopeful for you that your time on it will make your taper easier on your body. Let us know when you start! June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowphie Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share Posted February 7, 2022 @Bestillthank you! Making the first 2% cut tonight and hoping for the best. 2015-16 - Desvenlafaxine 35.7mg for 10 months, rapid taper without incident. September 2021 - December 2021 Lorazepam peak 2.5mg, jumped from 0.25mg October ‘21 - November ‘21 - Milnacipran up to 100mg for 3 weeks, rapid tapered off in one week at my insistence, horrible side efffects on medication, including two days of Akathisia. November 2nd - November 12th ‘21 - 7.5mg Mirtazapine November 13th ‘21 - February 8th ‘22 - Mirtazapine 15mg 2022: 07/02 - 14.7mg 14/02 - 14.33mg 21/02 - 13.97mg 28/02 - 13.63mg 07/03 - 13.29mg 14/03 - 12.96mg 21/03 - 12.64mg 28/03 - 12.3mg 04/04 - 11.99mg 11/04 - 11.63mg 18/04 - 11.28mg 25/04 - 10.94mg 16/05 - 9.98mg 30/05 - 9.09mg 13/06 - 8.82mg 27/06 - 8.3mg 03/07 - 8.05mg 18/07 - 7.5mg 12/08 - 6.75mg 16/10 - 4.85mg 05/12 - 3.5mg // 2023: 02/01 - 2.94mg // 2024: 12/02 - 0.98mg Supplements: Magnesium glycinate, Omega-3, Zinc, Lysine, Vitamin D, NAC, Probiotics, Grapeseed extract, Phosphatidylserine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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