Pit138 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 I loose Hope. I made 2 Cold Turkeys. I was so stupid 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Administrator KenA Posted January 25, 2022 Administrator Share Posted January 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Pit138 said: I loose Hope. I made 2 Cold Turkeys. I was so stupid I CT as well and I made it. You will be ok! For me I was just tired of trying to fix a pill problem with another pill! So I said told myself come hell or high water I was gonna get through it, or die trying. And 28 months later I'm still here! 1 2010-2011 - Tramadol - Can't remember dosage 2011 - CT Quit Tramadol 2011-2019 - St Johns Wart - Started out at 3 Pills a day (300 MG) and increased to 6 per day over the years August 2019 - CT Quit St Johns (Told by Hospital Dr to Stop Taking due to increased BP) September 2019 - Citalopram 10mg - Approx 2 weeks - CT Quit September 2019 - October 2019 - Clonazepam .5mg - Approx 3 weeks - CT Quit Drug Free Since October 5th 2019 Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 @Frogiei get heartracing 30 Minutes after taking Seroquel 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted January 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 25, 2022 @Pit138 You might take a look at this: PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 25, 2022 Administrator Share Posted January 25, 2022 @Pit138 you increased to 250mg Seroquel perhaps a month ago. Did this solve any problems for you? What is your objective here as a member of this site? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 @Frogiethank you 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 @Altostrata I dont know what you want to know from me. It sounds for me that you are angry? How everyone here i want to taper off. My psychiatrist increased the Seroquel. That was Not good. Because i get heartracing 30 Minutes after taking it. 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted January 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 26, 2022 @Pit138 You're welcome. Please answer @Altostrataabove. Thank you. PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 @Altostrata @Frosch @Altostrata @Frosch I feel like the seroquel Damages my healing. I got heartracing from it and feel uncomfortable. I was so stupid. Bevor i tapered my reinstatement i was in wd, nur i was able to work, go laugh ans Ro sleep. Then i Damaged my cns ans now im disabled. No window, nothing I dont found a similar story here... Do you know one? 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 P S.: the longer i Take Seroquel to more addicted is the Body from. I think to wait If im stabile would be a jear Minimum. With 9 Months of 0 (Natural) sleep 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted January 26, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 26, 2022 @Pit138Please start a drug and symptoms journal. Here's what we need over the course of 3 or 4 days. On 9/27/2016 at 2:49 PM, Altostrata said: In the course of discussion in your Introductions forum topic, you may be asked to keep notes on paper of your daily symptom pattern, including when you take your drugs, their dosages, and any symptoms. We ask this because there may be something we can do to reduce the symptoms. What we need to see for every single day over several days is what symptoms you get before and after you take your drugs. If you're not taking any drugs and have withdrawal symptoms, we still need to see your symptom pattern throughout the day: The time of day, dosage, and severity of symptoms are essential information. Include - Time and dosage for all drugs taken throughout the day, psychiatric and non-psychiatric. - Following each dose, note any symptoms. If you are having a reaction to the drug, it may take hours for a symptom to show up -- that's why we ask you to keep notes all day long. - If you're not taking any drugs, your symptoms throughout the day. - Your sleep pattern. Since so many drugs disturb sleep, if you find you're waking in the middle of the night, it could be from a drug you took earlier in the evening. If you're not taking any drugs, there may be ways you can improve your sleep.And so forth. A diary, in chronological order, looking something like this: Example: DATE: 6 a.m. Woke with anxiety 8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro 10 a.m. Stomach is upset 10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast 11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch 4 p.m. Feel a bit better 5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro 6 p.m. Ate dinner 9:20 p.m. Headache 10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel 10:20 p.m. Feeling dizzy 10:30 p.m. Fell asleep 2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien") 2:45 a.m. Fell asleep 4:30 a.m. Woke but got back to sleep Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted January 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 26, 2022 @Pit138 I can't answer any of your questions without you first answering @Shep and @Altostrata so we can get notes on what is going on. PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 25.01.22 3.45: Wake up, took a zopiclon 7:30 Wake Update With Anxiety 8:00 Breakfast 9:00 crying because i want back To my work 10:00 Reading in ebook, crying want to go outside, Jogging but do disabled 12:00 Lunch 14:00 read Emails, Chat With Friends 16:00 trying to Relax 18:00 feel a Kittel bit better 20:45 took seroquel, 30 minutes After hot heartracing, feels unkomfortabel 21.45: took Topologie 22:00 Sleeping 23:45 Woke Update but sleep Again 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 P.S.: After taking seroquel im so sedated that i cant walk... But no sleep with it.. 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 26, 2022 Administrator Share Posted January 26, 2022 I don't understand why you continue to increase Seroquel if it's not helping. 7 hours ago, Pit138 said: I think to wait If im stabile would be a jear Minimum. If you would like to stay on it, that's your choice. Please let us know when you want to reduce or taper your drugs. We don't cure insomnia here. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 I dont do it by myself, t he psychiatrist increased it. I wrote it already. And i wrote too that i will taper off. What do you want to know from me??? Idont said that i will stay on it. The mod told me to stay on it till i am stabile again! The psychiatrist said that heartracing is only a sideefect that will be get away. But it ist still there 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 26, 2022 Administrator Share Posted January 26, 2022 If you're getting an adverse reaction to 250mg Seroquel and it isn't helping you to sleep, the logical thing to do is reduce it. As it's been more than a month since you increased from 150mg to 250mg, decreasing will need to be gradual. You might try decreasing to 225mg and see what that does. We cannot assure you that gradually decreasing Seroquel will help you sleep. It's very possible you're taking TOO MUCH Seroquel, zopliclone, and Topologie, whatever that is. If you'd rather follow your psychiatrist's instructions, you can do that. We're not going to debate with you about it. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Hello, what have i done that you speek so hardly? Sorry that im searching help from here 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted January 27, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 27, 2022 17 hours ago, Pit138 said: 25.01.22 3.45: Wake up, took a zopiclon 7:30 Wake Update With Anxiety 8:00 Breakfast 9:00 crying because i want back To my work 10:00 Reading in ebook, crying want to go outside, Jogging but do disabled 12:00 Lunch 14:00 read Emails, Chat With Friends 16:00 trying to Relax 18:00 feel a Kittel bit better 20:45 took seroquel, 30 minutes After hot heartracing, feels unkomfortabel 21.45: took Topologie 22:00 Sleeping 23:45 Woke Update but sleep Again Thank you for writing out your drug and symptoms journal. Going forward, please add what dose you are taking. Do you always take Zopiclon at 3:45 in the morning? What is Topologie? Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Oh sorry, i forgot to add i Take a zopiclon ans seroquel at 20:45. That was an error from t he Handy Tastatur... You see the dosages in my Signature. I often take a second zopiclon wenn im awake. Do you think i can heal altough i Take seroquel and zopiclon? It feels like that drugs disturbed t he healing process. And do you Knie someone who Bad severe Insomnia too? I dont found someone... 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 P.S.: im wondering if i should reinstate again - can you tell me how much the damaged is when i tapered too fast with my old reinstatement? That was a big error because i was already in WD when i tapered. It was the worst Thing i ever had. Since then im disabled and bed ridden. First i worked, laugh, the WD wasnt so Bad. I could Live a normal Life. 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 27, 2022 Administrator Share Posted January 27, 2022 So you're not interested in reducing Seroquel? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
UserMan1775 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/22/2022 at 4:45 AM, Pit138 said: Hi, ... Is it possible to Recover while you take other meds? Absolutely, i had a heart palpitation residual from zyprexa for 3 years, slowly went away after being completely off for 6 months but while still on prozac. Also had a tremor on awakening from zyprexa 3 years, went away slowly but steadily after a year, on both prozac and klonopin, the brain adapts. Klonopin Mar 2013 - Feb 2021 - used .000 gram scale to cut pills did very slowly from 2017-2021, had no issues stopping after final dose that was sub .5mg diazepam equivalent (If anyone wants advice for tapering Klonopin with a gram scale, feel free to ask!) tapered off zyprexa twice over 2 weeks in my 20's, had little issue with that after about 3-4 years of use both times. Prozac 40MG for 5 years - 2016 - 2021 (Total of 13 years of consecutive use) (Most recent after last break, been on cumulatively in my life 14 years all times combined, 3 separate on/off occasions, all successful except most recent 3/4) Recent Issue: Tapered gradually from 40MG down to 0MG from May 7th - Aug 18th Felt fine through Oct 5th, slowly started getting depression, panic, and anxiety (Was original thing I was treated for) Decided to go back on SSRI Nov 1st, reacted very bad to 20mg reinstatement, day 1 was fine, day 2 had ADR. Doctor said to drop dosage. Took 5mg for 2 weeks, 10mg for 2 weeks, still felt physically sick, could not take 20mg for more than 3 days, looking for advice going forward (ADR) Not happy about it, but on 1.5mg 3x ativan and temazepam 15mg for sleep (Was sleeping 2-3 hrs nightly prior to temazepam, was first thing that broke 2-3 hr then wide awake sleep cycle) Main symptoms: headaches from certain foods and meds, sleep is broken, anxiety and agitation is extremely high, cortisol spike sensitive, bad in morning better at night, panic attacks, concentration is awful, focus is awful, anhedonia is awful, sensitive to light and noise, especially noise, extreme depression, intense bouts of fear, every looks and feels 'scary' at times, stress tolerance extremely low, have bouts of extreme anxiety, and bouts akathesia, and bouts extreme anticipatory anxiety over basic events/tasks. Nervous system is clearly crashed. No Prozac for 249 days. Link to comment
Pit138 Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 Hello, for the second time: i DONT want to stay on Seroquel! I DONT want to stay on Zopiclon. I like to taper off. Im in horrible Withdrawal from Sertraline. Is it possible to taper of Seroquel and Zopiclon while i am on heavy Withdrawal???? Is this Clear for you? I think we have a little chaos.. 2012 - 2020/Dec. 75 mg Sertralin, stopped by 12,5 mg 2021: reinstated 1 mg, tapered off too fast, Crash in 4/2021 4/2021 - 8/2021 Mirtazapin: stopped by 3,75 mg 11/2021: Seroquel 150 mg, 12/2021: increased 250 mg, 225 mg 26/2/21 since 11/2021: Zopiclon 7,5 - 15 mgs Link to comment
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