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Acute and Persistent Withdrawal Syndromes Following Discontinuation of Psychotropic Medications


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I found the following journal article from 2020 that discusses withdrawal syndromes in great detail by medication. I wasn't sure where to put this so here it is. If it needs to be moved that's fine.

 

https://www.karger.com/Article/Fulltext/506868

Current Psychiatric Medications

  1. Paxil 10mg daily (a.m.) 2017 - Present
  2. Carbamazepine IR  190 mg twice daily (380mg Daily) 2011 - Present (Currently Tapering)

Past Psychiatric Medications From 1994 to August 2021   Seroquel (in Recovery since August 2021 final dose 6.25mg), Depakote, Lithium, Risperidone, Xanax, Lamotrigene, Olanzapine, Lorazepam, Welbutrin, Trazodone, Oxazepam, Gabapentin, Abilify, Topiramate, Prazosin, Ambien (See Attached Spreadsheet And Seroquel Tapering And WIthdrawal Summary)

Current Non Psychiatric Medications Levothyroxine 88mcg (a.m.)-Vitamin D3 1000 IU (p.m.)-Fexofenadine 180 mg twice daily -Clonidine 0.1 mg (p.m.)-Azelastine Nasal Spray

Other - Fish Oil Twice Daily-Multi-Vitamin (a.m.)-Vitamin C 1000mg Daily (a.m.)-Saline Nasal Spray-Salsalate 750mg twice daily PRN, Diclofenac Gel on affected joint PRN-Magnesium Citrate 250mg twice daily, Betaine HCL & Digestine Enzymes With Meals

Quitting Seroquel_A Vacation In Hell_Redacted.pdf

Other Documents https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/26099-feralcatman-recovering-from-seroquel/?do=findComment&comment=633907

 

 

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18 minutes ago, FeralCatman said:

I found the following journal article from 2020 that discusses withdrawal syndromes in great detail by medication. I wasn't sure where to put this so here it is. If it needs to be moved that's fine.

 

https://www.karger.com/Article/Fulltext/506868

I have read this article and it is the best scientific article out there exposing the truth of severe long term side effects of psychotropic drugs . It should be a leaflet escorting those drugs when prescribed, I am sure noone would take them if it was! The only thing missing from this paper is the phenomenon of adverse reactions or harmful effects of these drugs even upon very short use (like few days or weeks). If I ever recover I plan to work with couple of psychiatrists to publish smg relevant and fill that gap 

Aug. 16-17, 2020, cipralex: went CRAZY! Recovered in 24hrs

Aug.28,2020; 3.5 weeks 25mg sertraline/4.5 weeks taper

Oct. 25: Last dose (4mg)

Symptoms while on zoloft

DPDR/out of my body/soul despair/feeling dead; tinnitus/no appetite; fear, anxiety/panics

4 months OFF: soul despair, anxiety/fear, brain disconnection/ DPDR, brain feels swollen-numb/crazy/bedridden barely functioning, tinnitus, eye lid twitches; face spasms. Feeling slightly better after 10pm.

- sleep & appetite are fine

9 months OFF: hell, no windows, same symptoms as above  (only eye and face twitches have stopped) plus intense arm/shoulder pain and visual issues. Tinnitus replaced by head buzzing. 

10 months-1 year: all above plus Insomnia (out of nowhere), depression, no peace of mind (mental Akathisia); 2.5mg melatonin

14months off: sleep resumed. All rest symptoms remain. Bedridden vegetable all day. DP is relentless. 

1.5 years off: still severely disabled, not much changed except some improvement in vision.

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With everything that is starting to come out in regard to these medications I am sure there will soon be similar papers that will acknowledge what you are going through. Awareness is finally growing and at an increasing rate which is wonderful. I think eventually you will heal and when you do send me a copy of your paper. I would love to read it and send it to everyone I know. All of the research I have done I have sent to all of my doctors and my therapist and my psychiatrist and it has changed the way they do business in significant ways that benefit other patients. I would like to send that paper to them all when it is written. Stay strong 😉😺😺😺😺

Current Psychiatric Medications

  1. Paxil 10mg daily (a.m.) 2017 - Present
  2. Carbamazepine IR  190 mg twice daily (380mg Daily) 2011 - Present (Currently Tapering)

Past Psychiatric Medications From 1994 to August 2021   Seroquel (in Recovery since August 2021 final dose 6.25mg), Depakote, Lithium, Risperidone, Xanax, Lamotrigene, Olanzapine, Lorazepam, Welbutrin, Trazodone, Oxazepam, Gabapentin, Abilify, Topiramate, Prazosin, Ambien (See Attached Spreadsheet And Seroquel Tapering And WIthdrawal Summary)

Current Non Psychiatric Medications Levothyroxine 88mcg (a.m.)-Vitamin D3 1000 IU (p.m.)-Fexofenadine 180 mg twice daily -Clonidine 0.1 mg (p.m.)-Azelastine Nasal Spray

Other - Fish Oil Twice Daily-Multi-Vitamin (a.m.)-Vitamin C 1000mg Daily (a.m.)-Saline Nasal Spray-Salsalate 750mg twice daily PRN, Diclofenac Gel on affected joint PRN-Magnesium Citrate 250mg twice daily, Betaine HCL & Digestine Enzymes With Meals

Quitting Seroquel_A Vacation In Hell_Redacted.pdf

Other Documents https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/26099-feralcatman-recovering-from-seroquel/?do=findComment&comment=633907

 

 

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14 hours ago, FeralCatman said:

With everything that is starting to come out in regard to these medications I am sure there will soon be similar papers that will acknowledge what you are going through. Awareness is finally growing and at an increasing rate which is wonderful. I think eventually you will heal and when you do send me a copy of your paper. I would love to read it and send it to everyone I know. All of the research I have done I have sent to all of my doctors and my therapist and my psychiatrist and it has changed the way they do business in significant ways that benefit other patients. I would like to send that paper to them all when it is written. Stay strong 😉😺😺😺😺

I am sure in the next few years the suffering related to psycho drugs will come to the surface. This whole fiasco of prescribing these drugs so easily will came to the end …. I hope to heal and contribute to this effort. Common sense and my background as a neuroscientist tell me we will heal but so many months of non stop suffering make me loose hope quite often ….. I keep praying for all of us who have been victims of these drugs. I am glad I have two psychiatrists on board with me to publish on adverse reactions but I am very sad I don’t know when I ll be able to write this paper ….. one thing that I want doctors and patients to understand is that these drugs can be addictive….. “wrong term” doctors will tell me , “dependency” is the correct term . I say BS!!!! If I take a drug and I cannot live when I try to stop it, that is addiction and needs to not be sugar coated with terms like “dependency” or “withdrawal”. I am so angry that healthy people are subjected to debilitating suffering by these drugs. This has to stop!! 

Aug. 16-17, 2020, cipralex: went CRAZY! Recovered in 24hrs

Aug.28,2020; 3.5 weeks 25mg sertraline/4.5 weeks taper

Oct. 25: Last dose (4mg)

Symptoms while on zoloft

DPDR/out of my body/soul despair/feeling dead; tinnitus/no appetite; fear, anxiety/panics

4 months OFF: soul despair, anxiety/fear, brain disconnection/ DPDR, brain feels swollen-numb/crazy/bedridden barely functioning, tinnitus, eye lid twitches; face spasms. Feeling slightly better after 10pm.

- sleep & appetite are fine

9 months OFF: hell, no windows, same symptoms as above  (only eye and face twitches have stopped) plus intense arm/shoulder pain and visual issues. Tinnitus replaced by head buzzing. 

10 months-1 year: all above plus Insomnia (out of nowhere), depression, no peace of mind (mental Akathisia); 2.5mg melatonin

14months off: sleep resumed. All rest symptoms remain. Bedridden vegetable all day. DP is relentless. 

1.5 years off: still severely disabled, not much changed except some improvement in vision.

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20 hours ago, FeralCatman said:

With everything that is starting to come out in regard to these medications I am sure there will soon be similar papers that will acknowledge what you are going through. Awareness is finally growing and at an increasing rate which is wonderful. I think eventually you will heal and when you do send me a copy of your paper. I would love to read it and send it to everyone I know. All of the research I have done I have sent to all of my doctors and my therapist and my psychiatrist and it has changed the way they do business in significant ways that benefit other patients. I would like to send that paper to them all when it is written. Stay strong 😉😺😺😺😺

Isn’t it amazing and bizarre at the same time that the “patient” has to do the research and read to educate the psychiatrists on topics they are supposed to be experts about? It is their obligation to get updated with current literature on their field. If they did they would have noticed papers like the one you posted here and save some patients from suffering. But I guess they are too busy prescribing these poisons and making money … no time to read current literature …. 

Aug. 16-17, 2020, cipralex: went CRAZY! Recovered in 24hrs

Aug.28,2020; 3.5 weeks 25mg sertraline/4.5 weeks taper

Oct. 25: Last dose (4mg)

Symptoms while on zoloft

DPDR/out of my body/soul despair/feeling dead; tinnitus/no appetite; fear, anxiety/panics

4 months OFF: soul despair, anxiety/fear, brain disconnection/ DPDR, brain feels swollen-numb/crazy/bedridden barely functioning, tinnitus, eye lid twitches; face spasms. Feeling slightly better after 10pm.

- sleep & appetite are fine

9 months OFF: hell, no windows, same symptoms as above  (only eye and face twitches have stopped) plus intense arm/shoulder pain and visual issues. Tinnitus replaced by head buzzing. 

10 months-1 year: all above plus Insomnia (out of nowhere), depression, no peace of mind (mental Akathisia); 2.5mg melatonin

14months off: sleep resumed. All rest symptoms remain. Bedridden vegetable all day. DP is relentless. 

1.5 years off: still severely disabled, not much changed except some improvement in vision.

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I also think that it is laughable that few hours on the internet makes me a better professional in handling psych medication than a few years at an uni.

 

But on the other hand if the curicculum at the uni tells them that drugs are fine then who are they to question it? The blame lies with the system of psych institutions, pharma and schools and as with most evils of this world unknowing people that I suppose are mostly well-meaning are dragged into this.

 

I also can understand psychs with years of practice that can't possibly accept the fact that they have harmed thousands of people.

 

But still the harm remains and even if unknowingly they are in part responsible.

 

And in some higher metaphysical sense the nature of humanity is to blame, because without greed none of this would have happened, I try not to blame myself as I had no other choice than take AD's as I was employed on a contract without sick leave and would starve to death without being able to perform, but still I wanted a quick fix and I am not sure that if I were in different circumstances I would have chosen different.

 

Looking at it from my current perspective I think that being homeless with depression like I had it then is wildly preferrable to my situation now sad that You can't look into the future to know what it will bring 😜

 

Wishing us a lifelong window!

V.

Duloxetine 2016/17 - 30/60mg/30mg, c/t, light WD.

Sertraline June 2019 50mg ADR

Clorazepate June 2019 20-15-10mg for 3 weeks then sparsely until 2022, 2 times per month max and very low dose (5mg)

Clorazepate Jan2022 10mg 5 days 2,5mg 2 days then off

Venlafaxine June 2019 75mg ADR, 17,5mg, titrated to 37,5mg

Venlafaxine Jan 2022 Covid, hard ADR on 37,5mg, reduced to 20mg ADR, tried ct, crash,

Venlafaxine 22Jan22 reinstated 9,4mg, too low/ 01Feb22- 12mg/ 12Feb- 11,25mg/ 16Feb- 11mg/ 20Feb- 10,8mg/ 24Feb22-10,575mg/ 16Mar22- 10,46mg/ 26Mar22- 10,35mg/ 26Apr22- 10mg/ 01Oct- 9,9mg/ 13Nov- 9,7mg

01Jan24-7,5mg

MAR24

Due to another sudden intolerance had to fast taper venlafaxine to 1,14mg 

Seems like all of this time I was in benzo withdrawal, because when I took it now in desperation to help it made me feel worse, tried reinstatement first 1mg, then 0,05mg both made me feel worse.

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