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I've found glycine to be very helpful with the wake-ups.

 

Lately, rubbing on a bit of magnesium oil seems to send me into deep sleep.

 

The weird dreams will go away as your sleep heals. You do NOT want to reduce REM sleep -- that's the phase where your brain is doing a tune-up. It's a good thing.

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alwayslookup

Thanks for the suggestions. I've got both today. First I will probably try glycine. And if I react in a good way to taurine...maybe I will even mix them before going to bed. (Or take glycine when I wake up during the night). Will see how it goes I can't wait to see. I'll tell you the results soon ;)

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AliG

Magnesium oil helps, as does Valerian. Magnesium , preferably as oil or salts in a bath.

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cyopher72

What brand of magnesium oil do you buy? Do you have a link?

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freespirit123

Yes which Mag oil blend helps with sleep and how much to use and how to use it?

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AliG

I have been using this brand.  http://www.ancient-minerals.com/products/magnesium-oil/ .

 

It is a high quality brand.  Just spray a little on arms or legs, and rub in. It can sting a little the first couple of times you use it but that's normal and after a few uses, lessens. It is a way of absorbing magnesium directly. 

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JanCarol

This is an outside source.  Catnapt and I were having a chat about sleep and brain waves, and she found this excellent article about Sleep Architecture:

 

https://www.helpguide.org/harvard/biology-of-sleep-circadian-rhythms-sleep-stages.htm

 

The only place where I disagree is it says that people over 65 stop going to Delta - and I know from personal experience that the brain can be changed and trained.

 

My goal is to be able to reach Delta for as long as possible, but I'm not 65 yet, so I can't yet report back how that is going.

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papaloapan

Knowing that when a person goes to sleep, that person doesn't fall asleep immediately, it takes certain time between the moment the person lays in ben and the moment the person falls asleep. And people that are in the midst of tapering psychiatric drugs, probably in their cases it is more time between the moment of laying in bed and the moment of falling asleep. For people in the midst of tapering psych drugs, what is the time needed from the moment the person lies in bed till the moment of waking up? I ask this because I don't know how much time passes between when I go to bed and when I fall asleep.

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qupuf

Wow, this is a very good post. This is exactly what's happening with me. I keep waking up multiple times during my sleep and sometimes I get 8 hours of sleep but if I don't go back for that last cycle, which I assume is REM sleep, it feels like I haven't slept at all.

 

So far, I've heard Arginine, Magnesium and Taurine might help us get back to sleep. Can someone please explain what form to take these supplements and how and when? Right before bed? The magnesium citrate+lactate I have says it's good for energy. Doesn't that mean I should avoid taking it before bed time? What about arginine and taurine?

Thanks!

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Gridley
15 hours ago, qupuf said:

Magnesium

I don't know about the other supplements, but I've read that magnesium glycinate is the best form for sleep.  I take it before bed and also when I wake up in the middle of the night.  Start with a low dosage.

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