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SouthernFreeze

Becoming a vegetarian has helped me immensely, within a month I stopped getting acid reflux and a had massive improvement on my bowel movements. 

 

When I reinstated I felt my guts and bowls go mental straight away.  I'm sure now that the reason I was constipated and taking acid reflux pills everyday for all those years was because of medication and meat. 

 

As for omega 3 supplements there's been a few studies out lately that say they don't do much, I'd have to back myself up on that but I don't think they have done much for me anyway. I was taking the recommended dose and supplement provided on this forum for about 6 months. 

 


10 years on various anti-depressants

5 years Effexor xr

tappered of 150mg in 6 months

nothing for two weeks

Reinstated 15 beads for 50 days

Tappered off then clean 2-3months

gradually went back up to 13 mg 3 years

bridged fluoxetine 10mg

2 week tapper

1 year clean

reinstated 5ml dispersed fluroxatine for 6months

 

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ChessieCat
16 minutes ago, SouthernFreeze said:

As for omega 3 supplements there's been a few studies out lately that say they don't do much, I'd have to back myself up on that but I don't think they have done much for me anyway. I was taking the recommended dose and supplement provided on this forum for about 6 months. 

 

Omega-3 Fish Oil


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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SouthernFreeze
3 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

Thanks, I had read that thread years ago but it's probably been updated. 

 

Anyway it turns out it was heart health that they were saying omega 3 supplements werent working for. 

 

I'd definitely like to look at some Omega-3 vege alternatives for environmental reasons. 


10 years on various anti-depressants

5 years Effexor xr

tappered of 150mg in 6 months

nothing for two weeks

Reinstated 15 beads for 50 days

Tappered off then clean 2-3months

gradually went back up to 13 mg 3 years

bridged fluoxetine 10mg

2 week tapper

1 year clean

reinstated 5ml dispersed fluroxatine for 6months

 

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Giulietta
On 8/31/2019 at 9:45 PM, SouthernFreeze said:

the reason I was constipated

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On 8/31/2019 at 9:45 PM, SouthernFreeze said:

was because of medication and meat. 

 

Red meat:

  • Is high in fat, so it takes longer for the digestive tract to process it
  • Has tough protein fibers that can be difficult for the stomach to digest
  • Is rich in iron, which can be constipating

Of the flip slide - the high protein may be helpful in activating neurotransmitter receptors...?


2014-present  Lamotrigine ER 600 mg (sz)

2000 - present  Clonazepam 1 mg (.25 mg am;.75 mg pm)

2000 - present  Gabapentin 1000 mg (sz)

2014-2019   Lisinopril 2.5 mg

2010-present Lorazepam/Ativan .5 mg prn only  (sz)

 

2005-2018/19   Assorted SSRIs taken intermittently, incl. dulox.

(6/2015-4/2020) Unwitting 20 mg duloxetine CT Dec 2018. Prev. CT from 20 mg  9/2018.

Suplmnts:  omega 3 fatty acid, CoQ10,  Calcium  Citrate with Vit D3/Mages.

I am not a medical professional. My comments are not medical advice.  They  are based on personal experience.

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SouthernFreeze
3 hours ago, Guilietta said:

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Red meat:

  • Is high in fat, so it takes longer for the digestive tract to process it
  • Has tough protein fibers that can be difficult for the stomach to digest
  • Is rich in iron, which can be constipating

Of the flip slide - the high protein may be helpful in activating neurotransmitter receptors...?

Not sure, I do get plenty of protein from bean and nuts and things like that though 


10 years on various anti-depressants

5 years Effexor xr

tappered of 150mg in 6 months

nothing for two weeks

Reinstated 15 beads for 50 days

Tappered off then clean 2-3months

gradually went back up to 13 mg 3 years

bridged fluoxetine 10mg

2 week tapper

1 year clean

reinstated 5ml dispersed fluroxatine for 6months

 

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Giulietta
56 minutes ago, SouthernFreeze said:

Not sure, I do get plenty of protein from bean and nuts and things like that though 

 

I try to get about 60-70 g of protein a day. Even though I don't eaat red meat that often here are some comparisons between red meat and other sources:

 

3 oz hamburger patty (90% lean) - 23 g protein

1/2 c chick peas - 6 g

3 oz light tuna fish - 23+ g

3 oz peanuts - 24 g protein (wow!)


2014-present  Lamotrigine ER 600 mg (sz)

2000 - present  Clonazepam 1 mg (.25 mg am;.75 mg pm)

2000 - present  Gabapentin 1000 mg (sz)

2014-2019   Lisinopril 2.5 mg

2010-present Lorazepam/Ativan .5 mg prn only  (sz)

 

2005-2018/19   Assorted SSRIs taken intermittently, incl. dulox.

(6/2015-4/2020) Unwitting 20 mg duloxetine CT Dec 2018. Prev. CT from 20 mg  9/2018.

Suplmnts:  omega 3 fatty acid, CoQ10,  Calcium  Citrate with Vit D3/Mages.

I am not a medical professional. My comments are not medical advice.  They  are based on personal experience.

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Armorall

Is there a thread somewhere that explains what antibiotics not to take in withdrawal? Also cold medicine? It's getting colder out and I work in a school. Scared of getting sick and having to take anything only to worsen withdrawal, I've read that the cold medicine puts people in a wave, even after they've recovered for years. 

But, there's a cough suppressant that seems free of anything stimulating (delsym). Maybe there are some things considered "safe" for us in withdrawal? 


3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg

3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg

7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone

7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg

7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects

8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg

8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 

8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia

From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever

Currently taking Magnesium 150mgs daily

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SouthernFreeze
5 hours ago, Armorall said:

Is there a thread somewhere that explains what antibiotics not to take in withdrawal? Also cold medicine? It's getting colder out and I work in a school. Scared of getting sick and having to take anything only to worsen withdrawal, I've read that the cold medicine puts people in a wave, even after they've recovered for years. 

But, there's a cough suppressant that seems free of anything stimulating (delsym). Maybe there are some things considered "safe" for us in withdrawal? 

Not sure about antibiotics, but I find with a cold paracetamol and ibuprofen is about all you really need for a cold at the end if the day. I haven't had any reactions from those myself. 


10 years on various anti-depressants

5 years Effexor xr

tappered of 150mg in 6 months

nothing for two weeks

Reinstated 15 beads for 50 days

Tappered off then clean 2-3months

gradually went back up to 13 mg 3 years

bridged fluoxetine 10mg

2 week tapper

1 year clean

reinstated 5ml dispersed fluroxatine for 6months

 

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Armorall

I've never heard of paracetamol...ah it's acetominophen. Good to know, thanks!


3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg

3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg

7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone

7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg

7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects

8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg

8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 

8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia

From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever

Currently taking Magnesium 150mgs daily

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Gridley
8 hours ago, SouthernFreeze said:
 

Is there a thread somewhere that explains what antibiotics not to take in withdrawal?

 

Cipro, Levaquin, Azithromycin (Z-Pack), and other antibiotics


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Sept.23, 2020 at 0.05mg

Taper is 99.75% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .33mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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SouthernFreeze

OK, so I suffer from breathing problems from the small amount of fluroxatine I am on (that feeling you get when you just can't get a proper deep breath) . I've been just dealing with it but recently it has really annoyed me. 

I am a Buddhist and finally made it to a retreat in the weekend. It was a two day retreat, but halfway through the first day I was basically hyperventilating because I just couldnt get a deep breath. I tried every breathing technique I could think of but after 2 hours and twenty minutes of diveded meditation I went into a panic and had to leave. A 5 hour drive for that. Is getting off this crap the only way to be able to breath properly again? Seems like it. 


10 years on various anti-depressants

5 years Effexor xr

tappered of 150mg in 6 months

nothing for two weeks

Reinstated 15 beads for 50 days

Tappered off then clean 2-3months

gradually went back up to 13 mg 3 years

bridged fluoxetine 10mg

2 week tapper

1 year clean

reinstated 5ml dispersed fluroxatine for 6months

 

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Armorall

Has anyone ever tried to wear one of those weighted vests like my kids with autism has? If we have a disregulated nervous system, maybe that would help with calming the nervous system?


3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg

3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg

7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone

7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg

7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects

8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg

8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 

8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia

From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever

Currently taking Magnesium 150mgs daily

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Ella56

Is there any reason to not take bio -available vit c? My megnesium 100mg has that in it. 


Age 21 started on antidepressants, Paxil, Zoloft cant remember dozes.

Most I remember is being on Celexa 10 - 40 mg since 1996 to 2019 up and down.

Changed to Pristiq March 2019 to May 2019 lowest doze but quit scared ot it.

Went back to Celexa 20mg may 2019 to sept 2019.Tried Cipralex, 3 days,

Went off celexa 20 mg Sept 16/19 taper 1 month.

Took Ativan .5 to 1 mg on and off for years and some Clonazepam for anxiety.

Ativan in dec 2019 about 10 and in jan 2019. .05mg.

Brain zaps  Agitation, terror and dread, suicidal feelings, stomach in fear. afraid to be alone. Depression 

Now: feeling disconnected from self and inability to connect with others, anxiety, depression,.emotionally weak and helplesd, ringing in my ears.

Feb 25, 2020 reinstated 1mg celexa.

 

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Ella56

Is there anything one can take for anxiety that is not an addictive medication? 


Age 21 started on antidepressants, Paxil, Zoloft cant remember dozes.

Most I remember is being on Celexa 10 - 40 mg since 1996 to 2019 up and down.

Changed to Pristiq March 2019 to May 2019 lowest doze but quit scared ot it.

Went back to Celexa 20mg may 2019 to sept 2019.Tried Cipralex, 3 days,

Went off celexa 20 mg Sept 16/19 taper 1 month.

Took Ativan .5 to 1 mg on and off for years and some Clonazepam for anxiety.

Ativan in dec 2019 about 10 and in jan 2019. .05mg.

Brain zaps  Agitation, terror and dread, suicidal feelings, stomach in fear. afraid to be alone. Depression 

Now: feeling disconnected from self and inability to connect with others, anxiety, depression,.emotionally weak and helplesd, ringing in my ears.

Feb 25, 2020 reinstated 1mg celexa.

 

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neverknew

Has anyone ever heard of an oral peptide that's used for people withdrawing from benzodiazapines? It's called... DH-DB or something like it. It's supposed to help with anxiety. 

 

Also...anyone who has ever taken or tried L-tryptophan, what did it do for you? Or not?


On Prozac since 2004, 10 mg 

Began to taper, 2016, first time cold turkey

unsuccessful, so soon after tried again

kept having to go back on medication due to withdrawals

tried to do it myself as couldn't find a dr to help me

Currently on taper #4 from 2016, having changed to Lexapro and starting November 2018 from 5 mg

As of April 2020 I am at 1/5th of a mg (.2 mg)

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brassmonkey

The peptide in question is DHH-B. It has bad interactions with Benzos and a variety of other psych drugs and as such should be avoided. There has been very little testing so it's effectiveness is in question for this purpose and it can only be taken for a short period of time. It is unsafe for someone who is pregnant or is about to have surgery.

 

Please do a site search for L-tryptophan, there is a lot of discussion about it. As with most supplements we do not recommend its use during WD.


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Fightinghard

Hello-  prior to my WD from lexapro I was taking reseveratrol and nicotinamide riboside (Brand name is tru niagen). I also tried NMN as well. They all influence NAD levels which is critical for mitochondrial function. Anyway I stopped taking them for fear of Stimulating  my nervous system.  Has anyone used them?  I believe they may be beneficial in supporting our healing process. But again with my already high cortisol spikes I’m hesitant to try them. 


2003-2006-  Zoloft then Wellbutrin, Ritalin, concerta , Adderall.  Don’t remember dosage, tapers or timeframes. ADD treatment. I think I had some WD?  Definitely PSSD which resolved over time. 

Zoloft  100 MG April18-april 22, 2020

Buspirone 20 mg from April 18-May 18

10 mg from May 18 - May 27 2020

Lexapro 5 mg from April 22 through May 1st

10 mg from May 1 through June 1

5 mg from June 1 though june 18

2.5 mg from June 18 through June 25

1.25 mg from June 25 through July 4 2020

Ambien -  2.5 mg  April 21 and 26 2020

Trazodone 50 mg-  3 times late April and 4 days the first week in June 2020

Supplements:  Omega 3’s 1000 mg 3 X a day,  Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg (now 4 times a day), Melatonin 1 mg, Vitamin C 1000 mg, probiotics.

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ChessieCat
4 hours ago, Fightinghard said:

reseveratrol

 

Correct spelling:  resveratrol

 

Site search results:  https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/search/?q=resveratrol&quick=1

 

4 hours ago, Fightinghard said:

nicotinamide riboside (Brand name is tru niagen). I also tried NMN as well. They all influence NAD levels which is critical for mitochondrial function.

 

Do a general internet search using these terms:

 

survivingantidepressants.org nicotinamide riboside

 

survivingantidepressants.org nicotinamide

 

survivingantidepressants.org mitochondrial

 

Sometimes you need to search site: survivingantidepressants.org

 

 

 


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 12 Sept 2020:  Pristiq 0.625 mg (compounded)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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