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grandmaD

Anyone else experienced severe muscle spasms?  I call them that but not sure if it is a pinched nerve or what.  I also have sciatica and shooting nerve type pain in feet, toes and one thumb.   I did have back problems in the past and that is why I was put on Paxil in the first place.

 

Could it be that the Paxil covered up all those pains and the aching and cramps I also experience and now I am on a low dose, they are all back – in fact never had gone, just covered by the Paxil???

 

I wish there was a way to know what is wrong with me.  I have family telling me it is my old back problem acting up again, friends and doctor saying it is osteoarthritis (fracture) and old age, which frightens me, so does that mean this will keep happening?  I also read that w/d can mimic these symptoms too. 

 

It is very confusing.  If I knew the cause I would know what to do.    If it is osteo and going to keep happening, then I might as well switch to another a/d which might help with the pain.

If it is just w/d then I just have to keep on the painkillers and wait it out.

 

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doggiemama

Hi I have back pain most days but only on the right side. It also moves around sometimes more at the top but moves up and down. I get muscle twitching also only on the right weird I've never had this before.

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grandmaD

It would just be good to know if it was w/d or what.  After some reseafch, I found it could be what the doc said, osteo, which can cause the spine to fracture and pinch a nerve.  it could also be a rupture of the disc which also puts pressure on the nerve and causes pain.  The acute pain is okay now, but the aching is terrible.

 

I found post but not sure where from now, where another person on paxil experienced severe muscle spasms, cramps and nerve pain.  She went to a neurologist and all they could offer her was something called "neuro something or other "  in other words, it was all a result of stress.  This person was w/d from Paxil also.

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grandmaD

doggie, do you have other spinal issues that could be causing it?  It appears no repsonses (apart from yours) to muscle spasms might mean it is not w/d but other things going on.

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doggiemama

I've never had any sort of back problems . I'm a hairdresser so standing long hours should have shown up before this . I have not been to Drs for check it out but I'm to scared anyway. As for the spasms also something I never had before stopping ADs. The last 2 days I been taking Natura mag phos and I have felt much less back pain. Will let you know later how it goes

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doggiemama

I've never had any sort of back problems . I'm a hairdresser so standing long hours should have shown up before this . I have not been to Drs for check it out but I'm to scared anyway. As for the spasms also something I never had before stopping ADs. The last 2 days I been taking Natura mag phos and I have felt much less back pain. Will let you know later how it goes

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grandmaD

That is interesting.  I think that's why I get confused because I did have back problems before going on a/d and never know what is causing what.  I agree, if you had back problems it would show up by now from standing long periods.

 

How would you describe your spasms?  How frequent and how intense are they?

 

I would encourage you to go to the doctor in case it is treatable!  They will do an x-ray or mri to find out what is wrong.  If they find NOTHING then we will ALL know that w/d CAN CAUSE SPASMS!

 

I stumbled on an old diary from 2009 the other day that said I stopped (CT) the tablet and had 5 muscle spasms!  I went back to 1/2 tablet but went downhill fast and ended up back on full dose.

 

I have tried 1/4 magnesium tablet crushed and added to 2L water and supped over 2-3 days but it seemed to make things worse.  The weird thing is every time I have done that I have also got muscle spasms, maybe co-incidence, but not willing to try it again!

I also had my magnesium level tested (blood test) and it is within the normal parameters.

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ShakeyJerr

I also get terrible back pain. Part of it is just having a bad back. But these days, the back pain is more because the withdrawal just keeps my body tense all of the time.

 

Also, I just discovered online that adrenal fatigue (which is something that happens in w/d because we are constantly stressed and our cortisol is almost always "on") can present as back pain. Usually lower back.

 

SJ

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grandmaD

SJ that is helpful to know, thanks.  That could be right too, that it is pain that originates with us, but that the withdrawal exaggerates it like it does with everything else.  I hadn't heard about the cortisol causing backache, so thanks for doing that research.

 

I noticed today I have the wheeze back in my chest, but I don't have any congestion.  I have had that on and off for quite a while now, and now am beginning to realise about the stress/tension aspect so that could be affecting my lungs, causing the wheeze.

 

It could also be the stress/tension affecting my hip, because at times I cannot put my foot down to walk, so I massaged the top of my leg today and where my leg joins body and found it was all very, very tight and sore.  Hubby and I were beginning to think I may need a hip operation, but it could just be muscle tension.

 

Do you know of any ways to lower/lessen/prevent the cortisol problem???

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grandmaD

I found this link very helpful for me to explain how the anxiety causes muscle aches, pains and spasms.  I notice some people call a spasm a stitch or a tic, but when I say muscle spasm, I mean an excruciating sharp, sudden pain that is immobilising.

 

http://www.calmclinic.com/anxiety/signs/muscle-spasms

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Wellbutrinsucks

Have any of you had muscle twitches that went away? I’ve had mine on and off, for most of the last year from October 2017 until now. I’m so afraid it could be something worse as it has been the most enduring symptom of this whole ordeal. 

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Wellbutrinsucks

How long did muscle twitching last for those of you that had it?

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Galmond

That's a great question I would love to know the answer to also. I know I've had muscle spasms for 7 months now with no ease.

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btdt

Came and went for a time then just stayed.  Had some clamer times but it is more of jerking now and sporatic 

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Wellbutrinsucks

@btdt so has it gotten better or worse overall? Also, how long have you had these symptoms?

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Wellbutrinsucks

@btdt what kind of jerking have you had?

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btdt

A lot of different kinds.  First it seemed to be when I was using the drugs... effexor and celexa mostly in my sleep I would jerk around a lot noticed by people who watched me sleep too...but it woke me up at times around the same time my one foot started to drag and I had head drops.  Seen a neurologist who checked me for ms said I did not have it took me off Effexor I had cut celexa then quit within the year before... he took me off effexor put me on cymbalta I could not handle the switch had to stop it tried to go back on effexor and from that time I could not keep it down no matter the dose it would come back up. Ended up cold turkey had a rigid body it was painful and torched... that is how it felt like all was pulled to one side... tried mirapex same doc and lyrica both were a no go neither helped but added side effects.  

Fast forward years of wd... all sort of distressing things went down too many to mention. 

all this was in 2006 ... wd was hard and bad.. still don't know how I made it 

Had a car accident in 2012 and surgery 2013 2014 -15 noticed I was shaking after using ventolin 

2014 movements disorder started when I was trying to exercise I would jerk around could not get up stair ect or control my arms but it came and went... then it got worse and I could not get out of bed... my gp said it looked like huntingtons... I had chemical sensitivity and chemicals made it worse so I started avoiding seriously avoiding all things chemical and did a coffee enema every day for a long time eventually I could get up and gradually started to do more things including supplementing and reading when i was able about chemical sensitivity... you may want to read this about histamine and how some drugs affect it... https://www.mthfrsupport.com.au/dao-deficiency-and-histamine-the-unlikely-connection/

 

since I had it open already just found it today. 

 

I gradually improved .. I can walk almost all the time can do what I need to most of the time... can't always move quickly if I do I will jerk my one leg will shake and tires easily I don't know how to say it is .. sometimes I just can't control my body it will jerk all over the place other times it seems better only have a fit and one leg will fly out or one arm.. or my head... it just happens.   If I am around chemicals it is more apt to happen that I know... I have more and more reactions to food all the time.  I try a lot of supplements to help some may like vitamin c but too much of that and I get other issues it causes. l

 

I have had it steady now for 3-4 years I quit effexor completely Nov 17 2007 had trouble with it since 2006 there were statin drugs too and few others on that list above If I have a good day without jerking around I will still have it at night... but nothing near what it was a few years ago before I started avoiding chemicals... I have video of me trying to sleep at that time and it was constant jerking to get 15 min jerk free was a good stretch... lack of sleep is a bad thing.  Nobody could sleep with that nonsense 

 

Now I sleep quite well most times but still jerk around I think I am use to it.. and it is not as bad as it once was... no 15 min intervals and I hope it never comes back that bad. 

I had a big apt with some movement specialist was told it was functional movement disorder... no treatment. end of story

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Wellbutrinsucks

Well I’m glad it’s gotten better for you @btdt and hope you continue to get better with time. I think those movement disorder specialists are useless because they can tell you what’s wrong but not give you any real treatment. I was supposed to have an appointment with one but I don’t think I want to go because I don’t think it’s gonna be helpful.

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