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Chaz: Hi I'm new...22 months free from Lexapro and Klonopin


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Just saying hello.  I recently joined after a long and on-going battle with benzos.  I am drug-free.  I also kicked lexapro in 2010, but it was not nearly as difficult for me.  I heard you had a benzo board here so I'm sure I will be around there, but my main reason for joining is that I have family members who are also on psych drugs and I want to become more familiar with AD and other drug tapering...how they are the same and different from benzo tapering.

 

I guess that's a question I have right now.  How is AD tapering different from benzo tapering?

Withdrew from 20mg Lexapro and 4mg Klonopin.  Currently 22+ months free of all psych meds and still recovering.  Lexapro was not a problem, but man that Klonopin.

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Hi Chaz, welcome to SA. Congratulations on getting free of the psych drugs that can be very difficult to 

get off.  I am not experienced with benzo withdrawal but have seen the devastation that is caused by

them here.  I have had lots of experience with ADs and have had every type at some time in the last

20 years. Anti depressants make changes in the brain and nervous system and quitting cold turkey

sends them into a spin trying to cope without them. We often say it is like using a trellis to support a 

plant, the plant grows through and around the trellis and the trellis supports it. The longet it has been

there the more the plant is entwined into it.  Suddenly ripping away the trellis leaves the poor plant on

a heap and broken. However you can 'tease' away the plant from the trellis and remove it gradually,

leaving it in one piece and healthy. Tapering the drugs means you are very very gently taking away

that drug and allowing the brain to adjust between each cut. 

 

Dependence on ADs is different to benzos, because with benzos the body becomes used to it and it

stops working so increases are needed to get the same result. Take it away and the body craves it

and feels it needs it to survive. No-one craves ADs but removing them causes distressing withdrawal

symptoms. Some people can quit c/t or taper fast and be fine, others can be in protracted withdrawal

for many years. There is no way of knowing who is going to be fine so a slow taper is insurance against

developing protracted withdrawal. 

 

If you look around you will find lots of topics on tapering and withdrawal and I would get family to look

around too so that they are armed with the facts if they do decide to get off the ADs.  Most people 

trust their doctors and believe that we don't know what we are talking about but we see people day 

in and day out, new members joining every day suffering badly from withdrawal or the effects of these

drugs. Thankfully some people are now doing research before starting to taper and managing to

taper carefully and safely. 

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Thanks for the welcome, mamma.  I've been around benzo forums for the past four years, but not ones dealing with ADs or other drugs.  It has been a learning experience, and I continue to learn.  The effect of benzos and ADs seem very similar to me and I wonder if the exact same tapering approach would work just as well for both.  I see great success with benzos when tiny daily cuts are used instead of step cuts.  How do people generally taper ADs?

Withdrew from 20mg Lexapro and 4mg Klonopin.  Currently 22+ months free of all psych meds and still recovering.  Lexapro was not a problem, but man that Klonopin.

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We recommend tapering Ads by reducing at a rate of no more than 10% of the current dose with at

least 4 weeks between cuts, this allows the brain to adjust to the new dose. If withdrawal symptoms are felt 

by the time the 4 weeks are up we recommend holding until they have passed. 

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1024-why-taper-by-10-of-my-dosage/

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Hi Chaz, welcome from me too.  Did you taper from Lexapro first or the Klonopin?  Were you on both of them at the same time? 

 

I have a theory that which ever drug someone comes off last is going to be the most difficult  because there is no other drug in the body to 'cushion' the potential withdrawal symptoms.  We have members who previously came off a benzo, but are now having a difficult time trying to get off their AD.

 

How are you feeling now that you have been drug free for 22 months?

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made?



VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes

 

 

 

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Hi Petu, I was put on Klonopin and Prozac 25 years ago and was switched to Lexapro maybe ten years ago.  I tapered the lex with little problem in a few months.  At that time I didn't realize ADs could be such a problem.  I thought just benzos were dangerous.  But the klonopin taper was rough and I am still recovering from that.  I really didn't learn how to taper properly until it was too late in the game.  I've improved quite a bit, but it is still a struggle.  Totally shocking how long it takes to recover, but I am very glad to not have those drugs affecting me anymore.

Withdrew from 20mg Lexapro and 4mg Klonopin.  Currently 22+ months free of all psych meds and still recovering.  Lexapro was not a problem, but man that Klonopin.

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Welcome, Chaz.

 

Please continue to let us know how you're doing.

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