Irvingkirsch Luvox Withdrawal-What Should I Expect?

[ang]

Hi Irving,           according to my ""labels""" I did the usual route,   started with situational depression, got medicated, which caused seizures,   so then I was told wasnt the mediction, I had undelying bipolar, more medication, psychotic, manic, serotonin syndrome...........   I done it all!  thank god I am still alive, and now realise  I was just conned.           I never had anything, I no longer label myself, and laugh at the stupid labels.

 

It is very, very early days in your Withdrawal from these drugs.......        Treat yourself kindly, and remember if things get bad, reintroducing the drug at a low level, may reduce your symptoms significantly.

 

I was fine for many months after I tapered.    My first symptoms were erratic sleep  (waking up very early, and with energy),          then I felt like I had the worst case of the flu ever, it just hit me, diahorreah, shakes, sweats, I was very ill for a day,   then it went up and down on a daily basis, I was all over the place.  I still find the horrific physical symptoms easier to cope with than the emotional ones.   Still some mornings I am very nauseaus, but that passes.       Read the section on neuroemotions, that really helped me cope.

 

I have previously gone off many drugs, and always was a bumpy ride.     This time?  Well I have been on the things for about 8 years this time, previously I had never been on them for more than a few months.  I have not been very well for 18 months now, have learnt so much I wish I had known this stuff before tapering off.     I had two good weeks just before Christmas.     So two good weeks in 18 months.    I guess that is why I am concerned, as you have tapered so quickly, and I dont know of anyone that has actually worked for.   Lets hope you are the first one!

 

My drug history is in my signature. 

 

Good luck

 

Ang

[Irvingkirsch]

*topic moved from success forum

 

Do you have to get off SSRI's altogether to recover from your initial withdrawal? Have I delayed my recovery by not stopping SSRI's a long time ago?Is there anyone on here who has overcome withdrawal who can speak to this? It seems that when my insomnia started 7 years ago, it was possibly a result of cold turkeying Wellbutrin and Celexa? The problem is that I kept taking different SSRI's and withdrawing from them up until two weeks ago. I just wanted the insomnia to go away. It has ruined my life

Edited February 26, 2016 by Petunia
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[Irvingkirsch]

*topic moved from the events forum

 

Has anyone had insomnia that lasted several years and had it go away eventually? I'm talking about sleep-maintenance insomnia every night that prevents you from sleeping less than 6 hours a night and never lets up. I've been on and off AD's for 23 years, but never staying off for more than a few weeks. The insomnia started 7 years ago and it's ruined me.

Edited February 26, 2016 by Petunia
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[Irvingkirsch]

Seriously what is wrong with the people that move posts under headings that are totally unrelated?

[Petunia]

Hi Irving,

I've moved two of your topics here to your own intro thread because this is a better place for these kinds of questions, you will get a better response from asking here.

 

You can use this thread as your ongoing journal to track progress, write about symptoms, ask questions and communicate with the community, add to it whenever you want. Its a good idea to bookmark it or follow it, so its easy to find again.

 

It would be great if you would put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature. Doing this helps people understand your context, it appears below each of your posts. Here are instructions for how to do it:

 

http://survivinganti...your-signature/

 

 

Do you have to get off SSRI's altogether to recover from your initial withdrawal?

 

No, if you are stable on a lower dose or a different SSRI, then you will be recovering from previous withdrawal or destabiliazation. If you would summarize your drug history in your signature, that would help us answer your questions and make suggestions.

 

 

Has anyone had insomnia that lasted several years and had it go away eventually? I'm talking about sleep-maintenance insomnia every night that prevents you from sleeping less than 6 hours a night and never lets up. I've been on and off AD's for 23 years, but never staying off for more than a few weeks. The insomnia started 7 years ago and it's ruined me.

 

You might like to read through this topic and perhaps ask this question here:   Sleep problems: That awful withdrawal insomnia

 

I'm sorry your posts have been moved around, if you are not getting your questions answered, just post here in your topic and you will be directed to the best thread or forum.

[nz11]

Well here is a response for what its worth.

 

Shea Carney from memory said it took 6-7 years before she could sleep with any regularity. Check out her postings in the success stories. I read her story at pp.

 

I had bad insomnia when i first went drug free.

I think it then settled (the first two yrs seem a blur now...and thats good b/c i was non-functional )  but then at about 3 yrs seriously kicked in noticeably and ive had it ever since.

 

Im simply going with the flow as i know i can take anything as long as akathisia is not attached to it.

I'm hoping it will resolve in the next yr or two as i'm entering the 'Carney' window..

 

Try not to let it stress you out.

[Altostrata]

Seriously what is wrong with the people that move posts under headings that are totally unrelated?

 

You're just going to have to bear with us, IK. We keep information in Intro threads for very specific reasons, one being if we want to read about your recent history, it's all in one place. Otherwise, we'd have to hunt all over the site for bits and pieces -- "Why did Irving do this?" "When did this happen?"

 

If you wish to ask advice about your particular situation, please post in this Intro topic.

 

Any question that requires details of your history to answer belongs in your Intro topic. Regarding your insomnia, we'd have to ask if it started during a break in antidepressants, for example. It could be due to iatrogenic autonomic dysregulation.

 

On the other hand, there are many existing topics in the Symptoms and self-care forum, such as the many related to sleep issues listed in Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems , where you might engage in general discussion about insomnia, etc.

 

I have a feeling I or one of the mods have already explained this to you several times. I hope this finally answers your questions about why your posts are being moved.

[westcoast]

Irving, if you're still not working, one technique for insomnia is to give up. Just read until 3am.

 

Fish oil and magnesium didn't do the trick for me. I made fake bulletproof coffee in hope of improving my memory, and accidentally cured my beer dependence and insomnia. I even lost interest in pot without meaning to. Saves expense and a messy little hassle.

 

If you're interested, just search for bulletproof coffee. You can get the ingedrients at Trader Joe's. I used TJ's instant coffee, virgin coconut oil, and Kerrygold butter, not the fancy stuff the BP coffee guy promotes. Some people here have great results with coconut oil and some have found it "activating."

[Irvingkirsch]

Hi, I have had blurry vision and sometimes even complete tunnel vision over the course of many months since I've withdrawan from a few different medications. The blurry/tunnel vision seems to be tied to my total sleep time from the previous night. The fewer hours I sleep, the worse the tunnel/blurry vision is. Is this a symptom of sleep deprivation or withdrawal? I'm not sure that I had it before withdrawing from the antidepressants. 

Edited June 4, 2016 by KarenB
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[savinggrace]

Hi Irving,

If this were me, I would have this checked out. I think your symptoms could absolutely be w/d, but I just don't think something like tunnel vision should be subject to speculation. Blurry vision comes and goes for me, and is probably fatigue related but tunnel vision seems like it should be checked out, if for nothing else but peace of mind. A lot of times, I go to the doctor not really for treatment, but for peace of mind. It's usually worth it.

 

 

Grace

[Irvingkirsch]

Hi Irving,

If this were me, I would have this checked out. I think your symptoms could absolutely be w/d, but I just don't think something like tunnel vision should be subject to speculation. Blurry vision comes and goes for me, and is probably fatigue related but tunnel vision seems like it should be checked out, if for nothing else but peace of mind. A lot of times, I go to the doctor not really for treatment, but for peace of mind. It's usually worth it.

 

 

Grace

 

Hi, I've gone to the eye doctor and general practicioner and the gp was dumbfounded after doing a bunch of tests. They eye doctor said it could be related to sleep deprivation, but he wasn't sure and said I should see my gp

[savinggrace]

OH, the viscious cycle of being bounced back and forth between doctors! My thought is that if the eye doctor had any doubts at all, he would have referred you to an opthamologist or another specialist.  Eye docs don't mess around w/ vision. Neither do GP's. That's why the GP bounced you back to the eye doc.

 

One observation I have made Irving, is no matter how frustrated the "posting everything under your Intro thread" seems to be, there is a reason for it.  I get quite frustrated by it myself; I think it CAN make it harder to get attention to specific questions and perhaps slows down getting answers.  You can always do a search; it doesn't always work for me, but sometimes it does.  More importantly, people are being very patient with you here, so maybe you should consider accepting the process as it is.  It does work.  When I have needed to understand someone else's situation, I can easily read their thread, so in that sense, it is less convoluted than it seems.

 

Please remember that these people are tireless, selfless volunteers, many of them trying to heal themselves, and many of them could have walked away, free of any thoughts of Surviving Anti-depressants. They are doing their best, and in case you haven't noticed, there are ALOT of people who need help...ALOT!

 

Grace

[Irvingkirsch]

OH, the viscious cycle of being bounced back and forth between doctors! My thought is that if the eye doctor had any doubts at all, he would have referred you to an opthamologist or another specialist.  Eye docs don't mess around w/ vision. Neither do GP's. That's why the GP bounced you back to the eye doc.

 

One observation I have made Irving, is no matter how frustrated the "posting everything under your Intro thread" seems to be, there is a reason for it.  I get quite frustrated by it myself; I think it CAN make it harder to get attention to specific questions and perhaps slows down getting answers.  You can always do a search; it doesn't always work for me, but sometimes it does.  More importantly, people are being very patient with you here, so maybe you should consider accepting the process as it is.  It does work.  When I have needed to understand someone else's situation, I can easily read their thread, so in that sense, it is less convoluted than it seems.

 

Please remember that these people are tireless, selfless volunteers, many of them trying to heal themselves, and many of them could have walked away, free of any thoughts of Surviving Anti-depressants. They are doing their best, and in case you haven't noticed, there are ALOT of people who need help...ALOT!

 

Grace

 

Hi, thanks so much Grace. Yeah, the process here is a little difficult for me to understand. Maybe I'll just create new accounts anytime I have new subject matter to discuss so that way the subject title will match the content below it.

[cymbaltawithdrawal5600]

Quote (from what will get you warned or banned)

 

What will get you banned right away: "Having multiple identities, playing manipulative games, and not being a candid, sincere contributor to the community."

 

see: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1598-what-will-get-you-warned-or-banned/#entry192480

 

 

Great idea Irving, that multiple identities thing will net you a permanent ban from the site and you won't have to worry that your posts might be moved ever again.

 

And it will save moderation from having to move them where they belong according to our system, put in place to make it easier to help you when you need our help. But you don't really appear to be willing to place a signature on your posts to even facilitate our help. I know you've been asked several times. Had you ever thought that might be the reason you get few replies to your posts? No one is willing to go hunt up your thread OR your posts and try to figure out what your history might be so you may be offered advice pertinent to your specific situation. All volunteers here, trying to serve many people crying out for good, well considered advice in trying times.

 

Did you know there are sites where you can form your own groups and run them any way you like? Why, even facebook allows people to form groups. Perhaps that might be the way to go.