alexjuice Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 So, here we are, years later, living in the aftermath. Let's hop in the time machine. Why did you decide to take psychiatric medication in the first place? Did you have hesitation? Did you ever think... "Medication is for 'crazy' people, not for me, I can handle my problems?" If so, what made you change your mind, decide medications were for you? In my case, I had problems with anxiety. I had no close relationships and was young, 18 years old. I was very unhappy at that time. My parents had been through a divorce that left me to fend for myself and I wasn't successful at doing that. Still, I had been perfectly normal, within range at least, my entire life. I tested into a gifted track in a top public school outside of Boston as a youngster. I had friends in elementary, middle and high school, though no girl friends. My anxiety worsened as the remnants of my hs school friend group dissolved after everyone went off to college. I did smoke pot fairly heavily for a bit, but this phase lasted not a year. But I also started an internet business as an 18 year old and made enough money to move into my own apartment and to take a 2 month road trip through the United States. I was quiet and uncertain -- a teenage boy without a guide into adulthood, but I didn't think of myself as 'mentally ill'. So when I found myself in the shrink's office, I resisted taking drugs for a bit. However, I trusted a therapist and a doctor who encouraged me to abandon my prejudices. They said I was sabotaging my happiness out of some stubborn belief that "I don't need drugs". Of course, I relented and started on SSRIs. Everything gets hazy thereafter. Now, I have been off all medications except benzodiazepines since Febuary of 2010 after being on over twenty medications between 1997 and 2009. I look back, and it all seems so surreal. So I put this question to our wonderful group on the forum: how did it start for you? What made you decide to take medication, decide that you had a medical problem best treated by maintenance doses of prescription medication? Did you require convincing or did the ambient social/media environment groom you to accept the idea of the efficacy and safety or pharmaceutical treatment of depression, anxiety and the related 'disorders'? Alex "Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me. Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there Everybody's got to move somewhere Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow Things should start to get interesting right about now." - Zimmerman
summer Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Hi Alex... I wrote about this in my Introduction... not much more to add. Charter Member 2011
Claudius Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 Though I had some long-term psychological issues (rejection, bullying) the immediate and in fact only reason to be put on PAxil was secondary stuttering. A pretty complex problem were on cannot articulate specific words without getting a panic attack. This condition is not very well known but is described. And the udnerlying cause is anxiety. I have had the problem already at younger age but it had also be gone for a long time. It suddenly popped up again in 2002, after losing my job 3 times in 2 years. After trying Xanax to no avail, PAxil almost immedately took away the panic attacks and the secondary stuttering so for me it was highly effective. Only the life-threatening w/d which rendered me effectively disabled makes me looking back at it as the worst thing I ever did... 10 mg Paxil/Seroxat since 2002 several attempts to quit since 2004 Quit c/t again Oktober 2007, in protracted w/d since then after 3.5 years slight improvement but still on the road after 6 years pretty much recovered but still some nasty residual sypmtons after 8.5 years working again on a 90% base and basically functioning normally again!
brighteningup Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 I was only the drugs for a short period of time so I may be a bit of an exception. I also don't know if my experience is any different because I live in the UK. I kept saying no to anti-depressants and other medication when I was offered them for years and until recently the GPs who offered them to me didn't seem that keen on me taking them really; I'd ask about availabilty of talk therapy, they'd tell me it was really hard to get, there were very long waiting lists - sometimes they put me on the waiting lists for talk therapy - sometimtes they didn't. They'd then say - 'or i could offer you drugs' not very enthuastically - and I'd say no thanks and that was an end to it. This happened at leat 4 times between the ages of 27 and 39. I first took an SSRI in April 2010 I tried the first tablet because the GP suggested it might help since I was still experiencing depression despite having had counselling. I took 1 tablet, then I read up on various informatino on the web about side effects, risks etc (I had read this before but was checking again) and then rang the doctor back up and said look I've read about the side effects, and I really don't want to take these just now, and he said that it was absolutley fine it was my choice and absolutley fine about it. By the time I went back to see him two weeks later I was feeling better and that was an end to it. Why did I eventually end up on them in November 2010, well it was because I couldn't access emergency talk therapy but I could access emergency drugs. Well you see, I was feeling pretty desperate at the time, I was on a waiting list for talk therapy again and had been for 6 months by then. I had been to an assessment by a psychiatrist (this was a hoop I had to go through to access the taking therapy) I was due another appointment and I didn't know how long it would be before the counselling was approved. The appointment with the psychiatrist, was then cancelled, I had began to feel very low - suicidal on a daily basis, and I got very scared and panicked. I went to see my GP as an emergency appointment and said to her do you think going on drugs would be a good idea now I feel so bad, she did a 5 minute on-screen medical assessment form that said I scored as very depressed and that the drugs might help and promised that she would monitor me closely to check if I felt more suicidal - o was very worried the drugs might make me feel worse - (I had another appointment made to see her in a week) and she gave me a prescription for anti-depressants and encouraged me to take them. She also packed me off to an emergency medical assessment by the local community mental health team (if you never had one of these that's another story in itself...nurse - 'do you hear voices' me - 'what do you mean - do I hear voices - I have thoughts in my head that sought of sound like voices' nurse - 'no I mean voice coming out of the wall or the TV' me - 'no I don't hear voices then' and that was one of the less surprising questions). The nurse was however very sympathetic, very kind and told me to 'take the drugs they would help' and that if I felt desparate at any point I could ring them or go see them on a 24 hour basis (first I'd learnt of this service). So I eventually ended up on SSRIs as I was feeling very vulnerable. For about 2-3 months they may have been helpful although the side effects for the first 8 weeks (especially the first 4-6) made me feel pretty ill (like I had bad flu) and the insomnia (light sleeping) remained a fairly constant problem. However the suicidal thoughts did stop completely as soon as I went onto the SSRI (this may well have been placebo as suddenly lots of people were offering to help me so I felt a lot less isolated and initally I saw my GP once a week) and this was a great relief. Fortunately I had been told I had to stay on the drugs for 6 months and at 6 months I was feeling better enough (I had finally got the talk therapy by then and it was really helping) I was able to clearly ask to come off them - again I had no problems with the GP over this. I just calmly explained the side effects were outweighting the benefits and that was fine so then I started tpaering off. If I'd been able to access emergency talk therapy, rather than emergency drugs (SSRIs) woudl I have taken them - proabbly not, although I can't be sure. Citalopram for 6 months Since then tapering off over last 4 months 20mg -> 15mg -> 10mg -> 5mg (roughly every 3-4 weeks) Stayed at 2.5mg for approx 6 weeks As of 9 Sept 2011 off citalopram
GreatGigInTheSky Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) Reason for starting AD As we try to get off these drugs, it got me thinking and wondering why they needed to be started in the first place. Share if you’re comfortable but I was diagnosed ADD inattentive type and an Anti-depressant was prescribed for helping with commorbid Social Anxiety Disorder..in hindsight I wish I would have just continued getting by without the help of these meds because it just ended up wiping out ALL the anxious feelings, and gave me the icky feeling like I didn’t have to care about anything at all. Edited August 12, 2022 by ChessieCat added topic title before merging with existing topic 1 2017- Ritalin 20mg RitalinXR Sitched to Adderall IR 10 Mg after 6 months 2018 - Started Lexapro 10 mg 2018 - increase in Adderall to 10mg x 2/day 12/20/2022 Tried to quit Lexapro and Adderall cold turkey 🤔 due to financial and insurance reasons. Hospitalized after 4 months. 4/8/2022 Had to be put back on Lexapro with an increase to 20mg. (per doctor) Vitamin D. As well as reinstating the Adderall 10mg x/day 8/2/2022 I cut back my Lexapro to 15 mg.
hypnagogue Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 So, the long story behind this is mostly covered in my intro, but to make it short(er?), I've had mental health issues for most of my life but was pretty resistant to the idea of starting antidepressants until I felt that I had no other resources available and had messed up my life so badly that I could either try medication or give up. I consider myself a "lost cause" in talk therapy because I don't seem to benefit from it and at times it made my existing problems worse, and I had several therapists who did not want to continue working with me unless I started medication. In retrospect, I think I just had it repeatedly reinforced that medication was the only way I was going to "get better" (or at least prove my willingness to work with the therapist and get better, that I was a "good" patient and being proactive about my treatment instead of being seen as non-compliant/evasive) and that no one would bother helping me if I kept irrationally refusing the thing they were prescribing that was supposed to help. The marketing was pretty relentless, starting when I was a teenager. (I recall one occasion during my first year in college when I went to the campus health center for an unrelated issue and one of the providers noticed that I had cracked skin on my knuckles and asked me if I had bulimia. I had to explain that it was just dry skin that got worse during the winter because of compulsive hand washing, and I think that was the first time I had someone recommend an SSRI for OCD, on the basis of that one random visit for something completely unrelated!) I was given a prescription in 2008 but didn't get it filled at the time; it wasn't until I was having anxiety attacks at work every day in 2012 that I felt cornered and decided I might as well. It also occurred to me recently that the rationale I kept hearing for starting antidepressants follows the same logic as the lie they used to tell kids in my generation about going to college--you know, "It doesn't matter what you major in, you'll be more likely to get hired if the boss sees that you have any degree at all!" vs. therapists being more amenable to working with me if I was medicated. Well, I graduated college in the middle of a recession and went right back to working the same crummy retail jobs I had in school, and the sertraline did absolutely nothing in the long term, with or without therapy. I didn't really even have noticeable side effects (which I guess was incredibly fortunate since I'd heard so many bad things about side effects from SSRIs, and that was a big reason why I didn't want to take anything for so long). It just felt like taking a placebo for the most part, and I only really noticed anything when I missed or skipped a dose, because then I felt horrible. It was just easier to stay on it for 10 years despite still being as depressed/anxious/obsessive-compulsive as I was before the medication. But then you get the psychiatric version of someone saying "what were thinking, why did you choose to major in something useless and get a worthless degree when you could have learned a trade or learned to code or or or" ... and if I'd known that there were other options beside the one being relentlessly pushed by pretty much everyone influential in my life up to that point, then yeah, maybe I would have made better choices? Maybe not. We don't really give people a lot of guidance when they're younger. I feel like I managed to fall through every single crack in the system and people just stared at me disapprovingly on the way down, and blamed me for being stupid and clumsy and bad at following instructions. Honestly, looking at the posts on here from 10+ years ago makes me wish I'd found my way to this site back in 2012 when I was thinking of starting antidepressants; it might have helped me to reconsider. Hindsight in 2022, I guess. We practiced medicine without knowing how to heal. ~ThouShaltNot sertraline history 2012, May: first prescribed, 50 mg 2017, summer-fall: increased to 75 mg, then 100 mg 2021: tapered to 75 mg, tried to go lower but had too many adverse effects 2022, September 8: 50 mg 2022, October 3: 25 mg 2022, October 17: 12.5 mg 2022, October 31: stopped additional drugs: Adderall, 10-15 mg, between November 2020 and November 2022; Vyvanse briefly in 2022. Hydroxyzine, 10-50 mg PRN, 2017-2023; 40 mg daily after March 2023; tapered by ~2.5 mg weekly to 15 mg as of June 24, 2023; 10 mg as of July 29, 2023; stopped at 0.15 mg in March 2024. Loratadine, 10 mg, since April 2024. supplements: B1, B6, B12, C, D3, magnesium glycinate, creatine, fish oil (EPA/DHA), inositol, multivitamin, NAC, lemon balm, theanine
Dragoon909 Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 Way back in 2002, I was diagnosed with PTSD, anxiety disorder and some other stuff. I believe bipolar. I was placed on several medications (see my signature). I forgot Effexor...I was on that a short while. Anyway, as the years went by, the medications stopped working. The Lithium honestly did help stabilize my moods, but I gained weight on it. I stayed so hungry. The klonopin pooped out, and left me in a state of depersonalization. I c/t all of them (don't do this). It was terrible! The klonopin wd consisted of neuropathic pain, isolation, cramps like a claw in my stomach and I was so depersonalized...I didn't even know my own address. Took me a good couple of months to feel better, and continued feeling better over a two year period. Terrible drug! Should only be used in epilepsy and emergencies...NOT on an everyday basis for 9 years. I could go on and on... It's just too much to talk about without publishing a book. Be well ❤️ Was on Lithium, Tegretol, Ambien, Klonopin and Depakote for several years. Came off Lithium, Tegretol, Ambien and Depakote c/t in 2009. Came off Klonopin in 2012. I forget the dosage other than 4mg of Klonopin.
Healingslowly Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 I was prescribed Zoloft in high school, depression about school, not being good enough, low self-esteem, grades and being worried about getting into the right college and doing well in classes. It was too much at the time, wish I could have gone back and told myself it didn't matter and that it didn't lead me down this hole, but it had gotten to the point where I was suicidal and my parents didn't know what else to do. Went to psychotherapy before going to my psychiatrist who began prescribing me so many different types of medications for short periods of time and I am not sure how that must have effected my body, I trialled nearly every antidepressant for a couple of weeks. Not sure if that caused anything bad. In 2016 had my first hospitalization for suicidal thoughts and didn't know what they gave me there but I recall that being the first time I had experienced akathisia but it had gone away. Was still going to school but in junior year I could not focus on anything and had to stop going to classes physically and start attending them by phone, was still able to get my diploma. During that time I was hospitalized 4 more times, all for suicidal thoughts. Started college hoping to start small with classes but that still proved too much and I stopped in my second semester. I really want to go back and experience it but everything seems to be too much right now. Last October, I was dealing with such bad fatigue that I believed was induced by the meds that I vowed to get off of them and live my life med free the best I can. It was so difficult coming off of it but I eventually stopped everything in February. My parents were extremely supportive and I thank them for that. Did best to keep self occupied and active. Was tired of the way these drugs were making me feel. My parents have been extremely supportive through all this and I could have not asked for better ones. It is hard to describe how I am feeling a lot of the time and they do their absolute best to understand. I love them so much. I hope I can make it through for them and my family and friends. Before protracted withdrawal was slowly finding passion to do things again and thought I was in the clear and am now in reinstatement hoping for the best. Things are not good right now but there have been small moments of happiness in between, and I cherish them. Oct 2015: Started Zoloft, brought up to 50mg Nov 2017: Zoloft Increased to 100mg Sept 2021: Taper up to 150mg Lamictal. Oct 2022: Zoloft decreased to 50mg, akathisia Jan 2023: Zoloft decreased to 25mg Feb 2023: Taper off of Lamictal 150mg to 100mg, get off mid Feb mid Jan 2023: Got completely off Zoloft Apr 2023: New onset of anxiety, depression and fatigue, worried it may be PAWS, akathisia 4/20/23: Reinstate Zoloft at 2mg for four days, parents found out and made me stop 4/24/23: up dose to 12.5mg 5/20/23: up dose to 25mg, taking 0.5mg Klonopin 3 times a day, getting interdose withdrawals in between
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