Overwatch Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 Greetings everyone. I'm am (was) your average Class A personality male working in one of the most stressful / dangerous occupations in the US and one that never touched a medication until my son suffered a serious injury several years ago. Worry (health anxiety) resulted in insomnia, which resulted in anxiety, which resulted in insomnia...and the cycle began. Foolishly I found myself being prescribed Xanax (.25 to 1mg) and Ambien (10mg) for what became almost 4 years. Following a rough taper off Xanax last in 2017 I ditched it, but developed rebound anxiety. I was prescribed 2.5mg Lexapro and eventually 5mg Lexapro which did help. During this same time I began to develop tingling, buzzing and numbness in my fingertips, toes and cheek. As of today I have thousands of dollars of neurological tests pending to determine the cause, which I think may be Lexapro or protracted benzo withdrawal. I'm wishing to reduce my Lexapro dose to see if this effects the neurological symptoms. I'm no stranger to harsh withdrawal symptoms from my past rapid benzo taper, but would like guidance on SSRI tapering and to see if others have had similiar symptoms on similar drugs / circumstances.
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted June 29, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) If you Google "benzo withdrawal tingling" you'll see several posts indicating that tingling is a common benzo withdrawal symptom. It's very possible that the tingling and numbness are a delayed withdrawal effect of your benzo taper. Sometime withdrawal symptoms don't appear immediately after too-fast taper. Delayed onset of withdrawal symptoms If you'll Google "Lexapro side effects tingling" you'll find several posts indicating that tingling is a known side effect. Lexapro is a very powerful antidepressant and 5mg, while low compared to the 20mg I was on, remains a potent dosage. I didn't have the symptoms you describe before tapering, but perhaps someone else on this forum has experience in this area. Regarding tapering your SSRI, at Surviving Antidepressants, it is recommended that a person taper by no more than 10% of their current dose with at least a four week hold in-between decreases. The 10% taper recommendation is a harm reduction approach to going off psychiatric drugs. Some people may have to taper at a more conservative rate as they are sensitive to even the smallest drops. This is especially so at the lower doses. Before you begin tapering what you need to know Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Brain Remodelling Tips for tapering off Lexapro (escitalopram) This last link has information on how to make nonstandard doses of Lexapro, which you'll need to taper slowly. We ask all members to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly. Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature. Edited June 29, 2018 by Gridley Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Oct 15: 3.2mg Taper is 96% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs.
Overwatch Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Thank you for the response. I have Googled every term and scenario related to what I'm having, and read nearly everything it returned, almost to a fault. I understand the need for a gradual taper from my days of kicking years worth of a benzo prescription. However in this case, a 10% taper would actually keep me on the Lexapro longer, and at higher dose, than the entire duration that I've had the drug in my system as a whole. That is what I guess troubles and confuses me a bit. Right now, I'm trying simply trying to tie the symptoms to having kicked benzos 7+ months ago, or to the Lexapro that I took immediately prior to the start of the symptoms. In one week I will have roughly $7000 worth of medical testing that I'll have to pay for. If I can somehow adjust dosages, or get some affirmation, that my symptoms are medication related and not neurological, I'll save myself a fortune. Edited June 29, 2018 by ChessieCat Removed comment about moved post. Post moved to topic.
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 19, 2018 Administrator Posted July 19, 2018 Overwatch, how are you feeling now? What drugs are you taking? We need more detail about the when and what of your drug history. To help us out, follow these instructions Please put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature What is your daily symptom pattern? Please keep daily notes on paper about your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages. Use a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right. It's very unlikely any tests will reveal an organic cause for an adverse reaction to drugs or withdrawal symptom. You could save yourself those thousands. (We accept donations to keep this site running.) It's pretty easy to figure out if your symptoms are due to drugs: If they occur fairly shortly after increasing or decreasing a drug, they're iatrogenic. On 6/29/2018 at 3:32 PM, Overwatch said: However in this case, a 10% taper would actually keep me on the Lexapro longer, and at higher dose, than the entire duration that I've had the drug in my system as a whole. That is what I guess troubles and confuses me a bit. We don't know how long you've been on Lexapro, but anyone who has taken a drug for more than a month is at risk for withdrawal syndrome. If you've experienced withdrawal syndrome, you may know you want to avoid it. That is what tapering is supposed to do. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted.
Overwatch Posted July 22, 2018 Author Posted July 22, 2018 On 6/29/2018 at 11:12 AM, Overwatch said: Greetings everyone. I'm am (was) your average Class A personality male working in one of the most stressful / dangerous occupations in the US and one that never touched a medication until my son suffered a serious injury several years ago. Worry (health anxiety) resulted in insomnia, which resulted in anxiety, which resulted in insomnia...and the cycle began. Foolishly I found myself being prescribed Xanax (.25 to 1mg) and Ambien (10mg) for what became almost 4 years. Following a rough taper off Xanax last in 2017 I ditched it, but developed rebound anxiety. I was prescribed 2.5mg Lexapro and eventually 5mg Lexapro which did help. During this same time I began to develop tingling, buzzing and numbness in my fingertips, toes and cheek. As of today I have thousands of dollars of neurological tests pending to determine the cause, which I think may be Lexapro or protracted benzo withdrawal. I'm wishing to reduce my Lexapro dose to see if this effects the neurological symptoms. I'm no stranger to harsh withdrawal symptoms from my past rapid benzo taper, but would like guidance on SSRI tapering and to see if others have had similiar symptoms on similar drugs / circumstances. Thanks for the response and information. I ended up tapering off the Lexapro, which I had been on for roughly 5 months at doses starting at 2.5 and eventually 5mg. I tapered off within 7 days following a single 50% reduction and luckily didn't experience any degree of withdrawal or discomfort. So I am now benzo free 7+ months, SSRI free almost 1 month, and the tingling / buzzing / numbness continues with the same intensity. The only other medication I'm on is a common beta blocker that I've been on for 5 years and a very low 2.5mg Ambien dose. And as expected, the MRI and blood work didn't show anything outside normal limits and nothing sinister such as MS, brain tumor, diabetes, etc, etc. There is no rhyme, reason or trigger for the symptoms I'm experiencing. They are persistent but random, and I cannot determine a single thing that effects their occurrence, duration or intensity. Nothing. I'll be off the Ambien within a week and see if that, a medication I've taken for years, may be the cause. Thanks again for your insight and response.
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