eggplantbun Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Hi! I'm struggling after nearly a year of being off Zoloft. I know that I tapered too quickly (over the course of just a month or 2) I had been on an ssri from ages 15-22 and Zoloft from ages 17-22 I honestly have no idea what my baseline is or what I am supposed to feel like because I have been on the medicine for as long as I can remember. All I know is that now I am suffering from constant anxiety, nightmares and daily panic attacks. I feel like complete garbage. Should I reinstate the drug and attempt to taper it more slowly or try and work with the situation? Zoloft 200mg prescribed in 2015 tapered to 100mg immediately October 2015 (No side effects) Zoloft 100mg tapered ~20% weekly from July 2017 - August 2017. Last dose being ~15mg. Klonopin 1mg twice daily prescribed 2011 currently tapered down to .5mg over August 2017 - July 2018 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted July 6, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 6, 2018 Hello, eggplantbun, and welcome to SA. Sorry you are having a hard time. First, in order to give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly. Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature. Please include the dates of your taper and the rate at which you tapered. Please keep your signature as simple and easy to read as possible. As you know, you tapered too quickly. At Surviving Antidepressants, it is recommended that a person taper by no more than 10% of their current dose with at least a four week hold in-between decreases. The 10% taper recommendation is a harm reduction approach to going off psychiatric drugs. Some people may have to taper at a more conservative rate as they are sensitive to even the smallest drops. Before you begin tapering what you need to know Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Brain Remodelling To help you understand the symptoms you are experiencing, here is some information on withdrawal. These drugs alter the architecture of the brain, and the time necessary to heal the brain and return to homeostasis is, unfortunately, impossible to predict. What is withdrawal syndrome. Glenmullen’s withdrawal symptom list. When we take medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur. Youtube video, 4 minutes: Healing from antidepressants You mentioned reinstatement. Reinstatement of a very small dose of the original drug is the only known way to help alleviate withdrawal syndrome. The only other alternative is to try and wait out the symptoms and manage as best you can until your central nervous system returns to homeostasis. Unfortunately no one can give you an exact timeline as to when you will start feeling better and while some do recover relatively easily, for others it can take many months or longer. Please read: About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms. -- at least the first page of the topic You’re outside the time period where reinstatement predictably works, up to three months after last dose or dose reduction. It is impossible to say whether reinstatement will work at 11 months out. It's a tough call. It is your decision whether you want to give reinstatement a try or ride it out. If you decide on reinstating, we can suggest a dosage once you've completed your drug signature. We usually suggest a much smaller reinstatement dose than your last dose. A couple of suggestions. We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Please research all supplements first and only add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Many members have found the non-drug techniques in the following links helpful in dealing with withdrawal. The Dr. Claire Weekes Method of Recovering from a Sensitized Nervous System Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms. This is your introduction topic -- the place for you to ask questions, record symptoms, share your progress, and connect with other members of the SA community. I hope you’ll find the information in the SA forums helpful for your situation. I'm sorry that you are in the position that you need the information, but I am glad that you found us. Please keep us informed on how you're doing. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Sept 25: 3.6mg Taper is 95% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
eggplantbun Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 Thank you so much for the additional information, Gridley! I think I will try to stay away from reinstating the drug. I have actually ordered some magnesium after gathering information I saw here and on other forums and I will definitely look into omega 3. I have also noticed significantly impaired short term memory and concentration after getting off the drug. I can't easily hold a conversation with my girlfriend without asking "What was I saying a second ago?" Or "What was I just talking about?" I am wondering whether I can recover from this or if permanent damage has occured. Zoloft 200mg prescribed in 2015 tapered to 100mg immediately October 2015 (No side effects) Zoloft 100mg tapered ~20% weekly from July 2017 - August 2017. Last dose being ~15mg. Klonopin 1mg twice daily prescribed 2011 currently tapered down to .5mg over August 2017 - July 2018 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted July 6, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 6, 2018 The damage is not permanent. The brain is a remarkably resilient organ. It may take some time, but you will recover. Please Google "SurvivingAntidepressants.org neuroplasticity" Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of Sept 25: 3.6mg Taper is 95% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase, L-Glutamine, milk thistle, choline I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice. It is information based on my own experience as well as that of other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted March 4, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 4, 2019 Hi eggplantbun, How are you doing?💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg. 2020➡️5.60 to 4.80. 2021➡️4.60 to 4.0. 2022➡️3.95 to 3.55. 2023➡️ From 3.50 to 3.25. 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️May1=3.0✔️ June7=3mg✔️ July 15= 2.95✔️ This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
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