willy31: sexual dysfunction and Prozac

[willy31]

Hello everyone,

I'm new here and I need your help.

I'm a man, I'm 26 years old.

I have been suffering from sexual dysfunction for several years (I would say since 2009-2010). I took for many years and in high doses drugs that are known to induce this kind of problem (Prozac, Risperidone).

Although it has been four years since I stopped all these drugs, the problems persisted.

Here is everything I took:
-Prozac 40mg (2006 to 2014)
-Risperidone 1.75mg (1999 to 2014)
-Concerta 90mg (1999 to 2014)
-Minocycline 50mg (2012 to 2013)
-Finasteride 0.25mg (2014 to 2016)
-Minoxidil 5% (2014 to 2017)

Here are all my symptoms:
-Decreased libido
-Difficult to initiate and maintain an erection (I only have semi-erections, never more than that)
-Orgasm shuttlecock
-Reduction of pleasure during orgasm
-Lower penis sensitivity
-Loss of response to sexual stimulation
-Reduction of ejaculated semen volume

Also:
-I was circumcised in 2010. I was also removed a fibrous ring during the same operation.
-I have a skin disease on the penis (Psoriasis or Eczema).

Here's everything I've tried so far:
-Best habits of life (better diet, physical exercise, yoga, better social life, I stopped watching pornographic films)
-Cialis 20mg
-Viagra 100mg

None of this helped me.

What is the solution(s) that could help me? As you can see, there are several angles to attack. Even if the Cialis would have been effective, it would attack only one angle, the problems of erection. Moreover, it would have been temporary and would have cost me dearly.

I'm going to see an urologist this fall (possibly in November). I would like to try as many things as I can before seeing him and knowing what to offer him.


Also, I intend to go see a private urologist shortly to speed things up. It's expensive and I want to make sure I make the right choice.

I read that since it is the drugs that induced me these problems, "Antidepressants increase the release of serotonin by inhibiting the reuptake of this neurotransmitter.The sexual dysfunction related to SSRIs would be due to the activation of certain receptors serotonin, particularly the 5HT2A and 5HT2C receptors, which would decrease the release of dopamine and cause Parkinsonian disorders and an increase in prolactin. "

I am tempted to try shock wave therapy, PRP, or others, but it seems that it is for those with vascular problems, which does not seem to apply to me.

Can someone advise me? I am ready to put the package to solve my problems.


And finaly, Since my testosterone is low, my family doctor prescribed Androgel 1% at 2.5g/day. I started 3 august 2018. But it's not the reason of my problems. It's just a other problem.

 

However, there are some notorious side effects that scare me: hair loss, weight gain, prostate problems, etc.

Because of Prozac and other medications I was taking, I was overweight for many years (I regained my normal weight 6 months after weaning, but I have facial skin that has lost its elasticity) , I have a big alopecia (still in progress even after more than 4 years of weaning), etc.

I do not want to risk having these side effects again, especially since this treatment to go up my testo will maybe long term.

I appeal to your help to find an alternative to Androgel, even if it is not reimbursed by the security. On the one hand, I take care of having healthy habits at all levels. But I also want something that will boost my testosterone. Preferably a natural product. I know there are herbs, things that are not over-the-counter.

Reassign my testo is the first step of my fight and I want the best "booster" possible without the side effects.

Do you think about this natural products?:
-Suma root
-Pollen pine
-Puncture vine/Tribulus terrestris
-Tongkat ali
-Shilajit


I'm very affraid by penile atrophie. I have not had spontaneous erections for years, I do not erection during the night, I do not have a morning erection. By not spontaneously erection, the penis atrophies. I noticed that it is much smaller than before and I read that it could be irreversible ... Do you think about that?

It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare and I can't able to wake up. My life is over. I'm not a man, i'm not a human, i'm nothing....

If you have suggestions, do not hesitate.

[mammaP]

Hi and welcome to SA.  First of all, it would be great if you can copy the list of drugs into your signature, we ask all our members to do this. This link will take you to the signature box, just copy and paste the list of drugs into it then click save.   Signature

 

Is PSSD the only symptom you have now?  I am so sorry that this has happened to you. People do recover from PSSD but it is slow. Unfortunately there is no magic pill that will cure it,  but time is the greatest healer.  

The best thing of all is distraction, and acceptence. When you accept that this will take time and stop obsessing you will feel much better while you wait. 

You are right to stop watching porn, it does not help in any way whatsoever and actually makes things much worse because you would be tormenting yourself. Don't keep trying to see if anything works, let things happen naturally.  We have a topic on PSSD where people discuss their experiences. Please be aware that this is a family site and we have some very young members so don't use language or terms that you would not want a child to read. 

 

Please read this post by Alto in the topic. 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15319-pssd-post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction/?do=findComment&comment=354170

 

Link to the  PSSD forum.

 

 

[johnson]

Hi, 

 

I see that you were taking Rogaine up until 2017? Hair loss foams such as Rogaine/propecia can cause sexual dysfunction. A quick google search will give you more information on that. Also stress, excessive alcohol, smoking, supplements can also cause sexual dysfunction on top of medications. 

 

As far as your low T, taking meds/gels to treat it will probably cause more problems in the long term then fixing. 

 

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Hopefully with enough time you will get better. You are always welcome to message me if needed. 

[willy31]

4 hours ago, mammaP said:

Hi and welcome to SA.  First of all, it would be great if you can copy the list of drugs into your signature, we ask all our members to do this. This link will take you to the signature box, just copy and paste the list of drugs into it then click save.   Signature

 

Is PSSD the only symptom you have now?  I am so sorry that this has happened to you. People do recover from PSSD but it is slow. Unfortunately there is no magic pill that will cure it,  but time is the greatest healer.  

The best thing of all is distraction, and acceptence. When you accept that this will take time and stop obsessing you will feel much better while you wait. 

You are right to stop watching porn, it does not help in any way whatsoever and actually makes things much worse because you would be tormenting yourself. Don't keep trying to see if anything works, let things happen naturally.  We have a topic on PSSD where people discuss their experiences. Please be aware that this is a family site and we have some very young members so don't use language or terms that you would not want a child to read. 

 

Please read this post by Alto in the topic. 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15319-pssd-post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction/?do=findComment&comment=354170

 

Link to the  PSSD forum.

 

 

Thanks for reply.

 

Yes, I copy the list of drugs into my signature.

 

No I have many others symptoms:

-Extreme fatigue all days (2006 to now) ... started in same time I started Prozac

-Hairloss telogen effluvium chronic who transform in AGA DUPA (2011 to now)

-Problem with my view (2012 to now)

-Diminution of my brain capacities (2008 to now)  ... most difficulties in class. I was a model student before take Prozac. 90% and more in my exams.

-Prozac satopped my growth. I loss maybe 2 inches or more

-Overweight (2007 to 2014) ... 250lbs ... when I

[mammaP]

Thank you for the information.  I am so sorry that you are going through this.  Reactions to drugs and then withdrawal can make people very sick but they do get better. You need to take very good care of yourself. eat good fresh food, gentle exercise outdoors, walking is the best exercise and doesn't have to be very far, even just a few yards and back again to start is good. It is important to avoid stimulants like caffeine and energy drinks. Alcohol usually affects people in withdrawal badly too. Artificial sweeteners and food additives are very bad for me personally. Many supplements can make things worse, the only ones we universally recommend are fish oil and magnesium,  which should be started one at a time and at a low dose. 

 

It is also important to have a good nightime sleep schedule. No computer/tablet/phone for an hour before bed so that your brain can start to relax ready for sleep. Epsom salts baths are very good, again start with a small amount, just what you can hold in one hand and increase if you are ok with it. It is very relaxing.   I will get some links to topics that will help you to understand the withdrawal process. It can take a long time but people do recover. I recommend looking at beyondmeds, a blog written by Monica Casseini who suffered terribly with withdrawal for years and couldn't even clean her own teeth at her worst. She has recovered very well and has kept up with her blog and has many awards for the information she provides. 

Beyond meds

 

What is withdrawal syndrome

 

How drugs remodel your brain

 

WINDOWS AND WAVES

 

Are we there yet?

 

Magnesium

 

Fish oil

 

 

[willy31]

5 hours ago, johnson said:

Hi, 

 

I see that you were taking Rogaine up until 2017? Hair loss foams such as Rogaine/propecia can cause sexual dysfunction. A quick google search will give you more information on that. Also stress, excessive alcohol, smoking, supplements can also cause sexual dysfunction on top of medications. 

 

As far as your low T, taking meds/gels to treat it will probably cause more problems in the long term then fixing. 

 

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Hopefully with enough time you will get better. You are always welcome to message me if needed. 

Thank you for reply,

 

Yes, but my sexual dysfunctions started before I started Rogaine/Propecia.

 

I don't drink alcohol, I never smoke cigarette, I never take drugs. I listen Pink Floyd, it does the job.

 

Yes, I stopped Androgel today.

 

It's a fact that the médicaments I took have the side effect of lowering the testo. My testo was much higher before.

 

People tell me to do nothing. That it takes time for my body to recover from all the medications I've taken. The problem with that is that I'm afraid that there have been irreversible damage in many places, that a lot of things have been changed in my body and that time will not be able to do anything about it. It would not be impossible.

[willy31]

1 hour ago, mammaP said:

Thank you for the information.  I am so sorry that you are going through this.  Reactions to drugs and then withdrawal can make people very sick but they do get better. You need to take very good care of yourself. eat good fresh food, gentle exercise outdoors, walking is the best exercise and doesn't have to be very far, even just a few yards and back again to start is good. It is important to avoid stimulants like caffeine and energy drinks. Alcohol usually affects people in withdrawal badly too. Artificial sweeteners and food additives are very bad for me personally. Many supplements can make things worse, the only ones we universally recommend are fish oil and magnesium,  which should be started one at a time and at a low dose. 

 

It is also important to have a good nightime sleep schedule. No computer/tablet/phone for an hour before bed so that your brain can start to relax ready for sleep. Epsom salts baths are very good, again start with a small amount, just what you can hold in one hand and increase if you are ok with it. It is very relaxing.   I will get some links to topics that will help you to understand the withdrawal process. It can take a long time but people do recover. I recommend looking at beyondmeds, a blog written by Monica Casseini who suffered terribly with withdrawal for years and couldn't even clean her own teeth at her worst. She has recovered very well and has kept up with her blog and has many awards for the information she provides. 

Beyond meds

 

What is withdrawal syndrome

 

How drugs remodel your brain

 

WINDOWS AND WAVES

 

Are we there yet?

 

Magnesium

 

Fish oil

 

 

Thank you for links and support.

 

I don't take cafein, energy drinks. I walk very much.

 

In your link "How drugs remodel your brain", The user Stan ask good question:

 

what is your theory about why brain remodels with very nasty waves and not linear; and also why all is not remodelt in spite of years;

 

for me we overestimate the capacity of brain to do a well homeostasis (he has not been create to build a new homeostasis, he has not the tools), the brain can think a bad homeostasis is ok ; so at a time, improvements seem to stabilize, in spite all is not repaired, or i will say better, sometimes bad repaired and some areas worse than 2 years off (for example);

and we have only one solution: wait if this damn brain will understand we are bad and there is work he has not do well hopefully it is often one or two ares only, the rest has been well repaired

 

Do you think about? Do you think possibility that side effects will be irreversible?

[mammaP]

I believe the brain is a remarkable organ and can recover from the drugs and withdrawal. People do recover but sadly some take much longer than others. We have many success stories that you can find in the forum. Most people get better and get on with their lives, move on from posting here and don't post a success story. I have seen people get better and move on.  We have to be positive and believe we will get better or we can give up hope. I thought I was going to die, I was so sick and had serious illnesses one after the other because my nervous system was unstable. I was taking the drugs for years and housebound. It has been 6 years since I started to taper and would never have believed that I would even be alive now and here I am, helping out here and living a life. I learned that I had to change my attitude from giving up to believing that I would recover.  

 

Success stories

[willy31]

Yes, I read your story. You are very courageous. Thank you for being here and bringing your support.

 

But, I continu to believe that certainly damage can be irreversible. It will be not the first time in the history than a physical, neurologic or hormonal problems will be irreversible.

 

Do you think about my penile atrophy? It's terrible for me. I read on many forum that can be irreversible...

[Altostrata]

willy31, this is a site for going off psychiatric drugs and recovery from withdrawal syndrome.

 

Those hair loss drugs alone might cause sexual dysfunction. Strongly advise you to join other forum sites for that purpose.

[willy31]

No, my sexual dysfunction started many years before I started Finasteride. 

[Altostrata]

Well, you didn't do any good for your hormonal system when you took the hair loss drugs.

 

Strongly recommend you join http://pssdforum.com/or the Yahoo group SSRIsex (Yahoo log-in required) to discuss your concerns in detail.

[willy31]

I'm agree with you, but my hormonal system was bad before my Finasteride treatment.

[1Day]

On 8/17/2018 at 8:30 PM, Altostrata said:

Strongly recommend you join http://pssdforum.com/or the Yahoo group SSRIsex (Yahoo log-in required) to discuss your concerns in detail. 

 

My concern with pssdforum is that they are now telling people that virtually nobody recovers naturally from PSSD and that your only hope is to start trying other drugs and supplements.  Obviously the many success stories here and other places are evidence that this is not true.  But they seem to have absolutely no appreciation of the fact that what they are saying could lead to somebody committing suicide.  And for some reason they seem to question/not believe the stories of people that have recovered.  So I would say to anybody thinking about joining that site: be very careful.   I can totally understand people with PSSD joining a site that is specifically about PSSD.  But I am genuinally concerend about the effect that some of the untrue comments on that forum may have on a vulnerable person. 

[Altostrata]

Thanks for that information. You may prefer SSRIsex.

[willy31]

Hi,

 

Thank you 1Day.

 

I have already a acount with pssdforum. I just create a account with Yahoo, but i'm not able to acces Yahoo group SSRIsex website. I write "Yahoo group SSRIsex" in Google and I click on the first link, but the link seems broken...

 

Do you want help me please?

[frasier23]

Hi @willy31,

 

You got a sad story and unfurtunally I think "Time of healthy living" is the most important factor here. Healthy living is also socializing with others(dont forget to included Nice girls if possible) so dont isolate yourself too much. 

 

I think everyone suffering from Pssd has to accept that their sexual function will be different and that recovery can take up to 7-10 years of healthy living. There are fast recoveries out there too (6-12months).

 

How is your sleep today? 

 

You seem like a healthy guy. Have you tried HIT running 3 days/week? PM if you want a shecedule. 

 

Anyways take care and remember People have recovered from this nightmare. It may just take some more time than the flu.

 

Dont to any drugs, alcohol, nicotine or exotic supplements. 

[frasier23]

Regarding yourre worries of athropies. I think its possible if you dont get back your erections that you will be having less. You can see this in old people(probably due to medicines and illness). 

 

But as soon you starting to get those back I believe so will size. The supplement yourre writing about will not get these erections back naturally or permanently. Real natural recovery can do that. 

[willy31]

Hi frasier23,

 

Thank you very much for reply.

 

My atrophy is my principal preoccupation. I have no reason to wait 7 or 10 years if my atrophy is irreversible and become worst.

 

I really need a good natural product for my testosterone and advices for reverse my atrophy.

 

Write me PM for my atrophy if you can help me (private message because I can't write about that on this forum).

[frasier23]

I have no 💯 solution. Only thing I know for sure is that it will take time and we need to hang in there and try living a good healthy life. 

 

You can try supplements etc but I dont believe they will restore whatever hormones you believe is missing. Body is complex. Everything is not about having low T or serotonin. I have very high T relative to average. Still having pssd symptoms. 

 

My advise is to get as much Deep sleep as possible. That will help restore you the fastest way. To get good sleep you need a balanced active healthy life, I would start there if yourre not already living a perfect one. 

 

HIT running for 3 months will create wonders for many things in body if yourre able to stick to it. 

 

I dont think its irreversible so I wouldnt do anything drastic. But I do believe you need to do some changes in life to get it back faster. 

[1Day]

19 hours ago, willy31 said:

Hi,

 

Thank you 1Day.

 

I have already a acount with pssdforum. I just create a account with Yahoo, but i'm not able to acces Yahoo group SSRIsex website. I write "Yahoo group SSRIsex" in Google and I click on the first link, but the link seems broken...

 

Do you want help me please? 

 

Hi,

 

I don't belong to any other forum except this one.  But I just had quick look.  I think if you google 'yahoo group SSRIsex' like you said and click on the link it then opens a yahoo page.  Type SSRIsex in the new search box at the top of the page and click on 'search groups' button.  It then brings up the Yahoo sign in page.  Maybe if you sign in it will then take you to the page? 

[SadDoll]

There has been a new account of healing over in the PSSD forum! This woman had PSSD for 10 years!

http://www.pssdforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2262

 

 

[ChessieCat]

On 8/18/2018 at 5:04 AM, Altostrata said:

willy31, this is a site for going off psychiatric drugs and recovery from withdrawal syndrome.

 

[Altostrata]

willy, your genital-focused treatment is not something we can help you with.

[ChessieCat]

I merged the new Intro topic you created with your existing topic.  Each member has only 1 Intro topic.  Please do not create any more intro topics.

 

 SurvivingAntidepressants.org provides volunteer peer support for psychiatric drug withdrawal, while tapering and after you've quit.

 

Your post has been hidden because it is not related to psychiatric drug withdrawal and/or tapering.

 

I suggest you search the internet to find sites which deal with the issues you have so you can get support and information there.

 

SA is not able to help with your penile fibrosis issues.