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Hi, I am new to this forum. Sorry for my English, since I am french speaking. I was woundering if taping my ad would help me with strong anhedonia, not feeling emotions, except for some bad ones, like helplessness or hopelesness. I red on many trends that people would feel that from withdrawal, but is it an actual symptom of beeing on AD?

 

Many thanks!

 

David

Trintellix 20 mg

Lyrica at night for sleep 200 mg

Multiple AD over the years, for generalized anxiety disorder (GAD), depression

 

Effexor, Escitalopram, etc.

 

Now

Trintellix 15 mg  for 3-4 years

Zopiclone: 7,5 mg at night for sleep

 

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Hi Dave, welcome to SA. Yes antidepressants can cause anhedonia and loss of emotions.  Tapering very slowly  means that the brain adjusts as the dose drops and feelings return gradually. Can you tell us when you started Trintellix and lyrica?  Lyrica and trintellix are both known for side effects, and tapering will help to regain your feelings and emotions.  Could you please fill in your signature with the details of when you started them, and the doses. This link will tek you to the signature box. Fill it in and click save. *SIGNATURE

 

You may be wanting to taper off both the drugs. We usually recommend tapering the antidepressant first. 

*Tapering multiple drugs

*Preparing to taper

*Tapering Trintellix

*Tapering Lyrica

 

 

 

 

 

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Hi mammaP, thanks for your quick Answer. I have been on Trintellix for 3 years or so.  I have been on multiple Ad before. I edited my signature. I will see my psychiatrist in 2 weeks. I will ask if I can go back to 15 mg of trintellix. Now, on 20, the pill are difficult to cut in part. Did any person experienced getting feeling back when tapering ad?

 

Thanks,

 

David

Multiple AD over the years, for generalized anxiety disorder (GAD), depression

 

Effexor, Escitalopram, etc.

 

Now

Trintellix 15 mg  for 3-4 years

Zopiclone: 7,5 mg at night for sleep

 

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Hi Dave, 

 

How are you doing? Sending hugs💚

Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg. 2020➡️5.60 to 4.80. 2021➡️4.60 to 4.0.  2022➡️3.95 to 3.55. 2023➡️ From 3.50 to 3.25.  2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️May1=3.05✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor.

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Hi Carnie, I am still strungling with real bad mood!

 

Multiple AD over the years, for generalized anxiety disorder (GAD), depression

 

Effexor, Escitalopram, etc.

 

Now

Trintellix 15 mg  for 3-4 years

Zopiclone: 7,5 mg at night for sleep

 

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Hi Dave,

 

I’m so sorry you’re struggling with bad moods. Has your anhedonia lifted a bit at all? These dreaded meds certainly play havoc with our emotions. I get anhedonia, but it comes and goes. I don’t really get angry, but when my emotions are all over the place it’s more sadness and feeling overwhelmed. I was crying the other night.

 

Have you read the thread of neuro-emotions? Do you have any good distractions when you’re feeling in a bad mood? I’ll get ChessieCat to send you the link on neuro-emotions. Have you checked out Claire Weekes? She gives some good coping skills too. Take care💚

Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg. 2020➡️5.60 to 4.80. 2021➡️4.60 to 4.0.  2022➡️3.95 to 3.55. 2023➡️ From 3.50 to 3.25.  2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️May1=3.05✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor.

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Neuro Emotions

 

dealing-with-emotional-spirals

 

anhedonia-apathy-demotivation-emotional-numbness

 

We strongly encourage members to learn and use non drug coping techniques to help get through tough times.

 

Non-drug techniques to cope

 

Understanding what is happening helps us to not get caught up with the second fear, or fear of the fear.  This happens when we experience sensations in our body and because we don't understand them we are scared of them and then start to panic.

 

This document has a diagram of the body explaining what happens in the body when we become anxious:

 

https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/docs/AnxietySelfHelp.pdf

 

 

Audio FEMALE VOICE:  First Aid for Panic (4 minutes)

 

Audio MALE VOICE:  First Aid for Panic (4 minutes)

 

Dr Claire Weekes suffered from anxiety and learned and taught ways of coping.  There are videos available on YouTube.

 

Claire Weekes' Method of Recovering from a Sensitized Nervous System

 

Audio:  How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes

 

 

On 4/28/2017 at 4:03 AM, brassmonkey said:

 

AAF: Acknowledge, Accept, Float.  It's what you have to do when nothing else works, and can be a very powerful tool in coping with anxiety.  The neuroemotional anxiety many of us feel during WD is directly caused by the drugs and their chemical reactions in the brain.  Making it so there is nothing we can do about them.  They won't respond to other drugs, relaxation techniques and the like.  They do, however, react very well to being ignored.  That's the concept behind AAF.  Acknowledge, get to know the feeling involved, explore them.  Accept, These feelings are a part of you and they aren't going anywhere fast. Float, let the feeling float off as you get on with your life as best as you can.  It's a well documented fact that the more you feed in to anxiety the worse it gets.  What starts as generalized neuroemotinal anxiety can be easily blown into a full fledged panic attack just by thinking about it.

 

I often liken it to an unwanted house guest.  At first you talk to them, have conversations, communicate with them.  After a while you figure out that they aren't leaving and there is nothing you can do to get rid of them.  So you go on about your day, working around them until they get bored and leave.

 

It can take some practice, but AAF really does work.  I hope you give it a try.

 

 

* NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA *

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:  (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq  on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

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Thanks, no, no real improvement.Still hoping. I will go at my psy med monday. Thanks for the post. Take care!

Multiple AD over the years, for generalized anxiety disorder (GAD), depression

 

Effexor, Escitalopram, etc.

 

Now

Trintellix 15 mg  for 3-4 years

Zopiclone: 7,5 mg at night for sleep

 

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Hi Dave, 

 

How are you doing?💚

Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg. 2020➡️5.60 to 4.80. 2021➡️4.60 to 4.0.  2022➡️3.95 to 3.55. 2023➡️ From 3.50 to 3.25.  2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️May1=3.05✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor.

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