PortugueseSea Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 7/6/2020 at 4:42 AM, brassmonkey said: The good news is that their body will sort itself out and they will return to normal. While this is recovery from a severe adverse reaction and not withdrawal syndrome, the bad news is the post-discontinuation symptoms are a lot like post- acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS), and it’s going to take a long time and there is nothing that will speed up the process. There are some coping strategies and tools that will help you endure the experience, but time is the only thing that will cure it, and it will take months rather than weeks. Urgh, this should be changed into "it will take months, maybe even years, rather than weeks." I am already 22 months off my reaction, 7 months off all psych drugs. I have made same improvements, but quality of life is still low. Well, miserable sure beats suicidal. So I will say that 2023 has been way better than 2022. I have read @brassmonkey's insightful post many times and it always gives me hope and perspective. Will keep doing so until I am out of the woods. 2 December 2021 - Metoclopramide started. Akathisia symptoms start; Metoclopramide gets changed to PRN. March 2022 - Akathisia diagnosed; Metoclopramide stopped; Propranolol 10mg x twice a day. Biperiden PRN (0.5mg to 1mg). April 2022 - Tandospirone 30mg (10mg 3x day), Quetiapine 25mg (only taken once, immediate adr). Mirtazapine 7.5mg. . Discontinued Propranolol. May 2022 - Mirtazapine upped to 15mg. Tandospirone cut to 2x 10mg. Low dose Depakote for the month; 100 to 200 to 100 to 0. Mirtazapine cut back to 11.75mg (3/4 of a 15mg pill).June 2022 - Mirtazapine updose to 15mg. Tandospirone, Biperiden discontinued. Klonopin started PRN (0.5mg). September 2022 - Akathisia slowly starts improving, WD/ADR normal sets in in mid September. Hold for 4 months.March 2023 - Off mirtazapine; no Klonopin for 5 months either! Started quercetin (250mg x 2) to soften the histamine rebound. May 2023 - Stopped quercetin and changed from magnesium carbonate to oxide - reacted badly. Reverted back to carbonate. June 2023 - Added fish oil.Current regimen: CALM Magnesium (Carbonate into Citrate) 175mg x2; Vitamin E 268mg x2; Fish oil (100mg Omega3; EPA 30mg; DHA 37mg)x2 Intro thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/27095-portuguesesea-metoclopramide-akathisia-and-mirtazapine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1269 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Hello, Please can someone advise me about exercise, I love to resistance train 3 days a week and go jogging once a week and it really keeps me going, am I going to have to stop this when I start my taper? Can I just see how my body reacts to exercise when I start? I really don’t want to give it up it and will be devastated if I have to. I also have 20g 90% dark chocolate everyday, will I have to give that up too or is the caffeine content negligible, or can I just see how my body reacts too? Obviously I will have to give it up if WD are bad, but can I at least try keeping them in before I start as opposed to just down right quitting both of them without assessing anything? Many Thanks. Sertraline 50mg 10/23 - 27/02/24 , 45mg 27/02/24 , 40.5mg 25/03/24, 36.45mg 12/04/24 32.81mg 28/04/24 , 29.52mg 05/05/24, 26.57mg 12/05/24 , 23.91mg 19th May 24, 21.52mg 27th May 24 , 19.37mg 2nd Jun 24 17.43mg 19 Jun 24 Supplements: Vit D3: 1000 IU - Nov 23 to Present 4000mg Fish Oil (2200mg EPA +DHA) - 26/02/24 -Present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScaredDad Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 @brassmonkey do you generally believe the despite severe deregulation the body will still find homeostasis on the drug? I am a 30 yo father of one (about to be two) and I write this to you in tears. I was off lexapro (rapid taper) for 100 days in late 2023 before reinstating. I still felt terrible still so I rapid tapered again since I never knew it was WD. since reinstating two months ago (steady dose for almost a month @ 2.3mg) I have not changed much symptoms wise and sometimes I worry I’m worse. I’ve feared dosing reactions but to be honest it is still hard to tell how much of it is my injury. Also, I have recently gone very downhill in maybe a wave? Hard to tell as I’ve been so bad idk why I’d get a further wave. if I hold here in theory for many months I should eventually stabilize right? I fear constantly I won’t be here for my girls. intermittent klonopin 0.5mg this whole time. Never ever felt addicted. Probably averaged 1 a week the entirety of this. Last dose ~April 21, 2024 July 2018 - lexapro 10mg October 2018 - Lexapro 15mg November 2018 - July 2022 - various lexapro doses ended at 2.5mg August 2022 - life events and then strange symptoms lead to increase to 15mg - although I now know this was the start of withdrawal. Stabilize on 15mg in November. April 2023 - September 2023 taper down on an unregulated basis and stop in September. Feel great until December 2023 when drinking alcohol several times destabilized me. January 2024 Reinstate 5mg and taper to 10mg (feel ok but still not sleeping great and weird nerve sensations, convince myself it’s the pill) February 10 2024 - April 2024 - taper to zero where I spent a week and half before cratering and reinstated on April 21 at 2.5mg using 1/4 pill for 2 days (this provided relief instantly but to me at the time it wasn’t enough), increased on April 23 to 10mg per doctor accompanied with bad activation symptoms and suicidal ideation April 28 - emergency reduction directly to 1.00mg, May 2 increase per new doctor - to 2.50mg, switch to manufacturer liquid on May 4, May 13 - 2.45, May 14 - 2.40, May 15 - 2.40, May 16 - 2.30. Begin slide down for activation relief (MM/DD) 2024 -> 06/20: 2.26mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator brassmonkey Posted June 11 Author Moderator Share Posted June 11 Once destabilized from a too fast taper and waiting a long time to reinstate, things are going to stay destabilized for a very long time, but they will eventually settle down and stabilize. Having waited so long to reinstate, it probably didn't do much good, but now that you've been back on the drug for a while, I would stay with it until things settle down and then taper very slowly. It's going to take a while, but things will improve. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaredDad Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 39 minutes ago, brassmonkey said: Once destabilized from a too fast taper and waiting a long time to reinstate, things are going to stay destabilized for a very long time, but they will eventually settle down and stabilize. Having waited so long to reinstate, it probably didn't do much good, but now that you've been back on the drug for a while, I would stay with it until things settle down and then taper very slowly. It's going to take a while, but things will improve. Thanks a ton. I need all the hope I can. And to be clear I came off in September 2023 and got back on in December. I felt terrible so I tapered off again in April 2024 rapidly and all hell broke loose. That’s when I found out what this was. I’ve been back on but it has been HELL. I wonder if each day will be my last. intermittent klonopin 0.5mg this whole time. Never ever felt addicted. Probably averaged 1 a week the entirety of this. Last dose ~April 21, 2024 July 2018 - lexapro 10mg October 2018 - Lexapro 15mg November 2018 - July 2022 - various lexapro doses ended at 2.5mg August 2022 - life events and then strange symptoms lead to increase to 15mg - although I now know this was the start of withdrawal. Stabilize on 15mg in November. April 2023 - September 2023 taper down on an unregulated basis and stop in September. Feel great until December 2023 when drinking alcohol several times destabilized me. January 2024 Reinstate 5mg and taper to 10mg (feel ok but still not sleeping great and weird nerve sensations, convince myself it’s the pill) February 10 2024 - April 2024 - taper to zero where I spent a week and half before cratering and reinstated on April 21 at 2.5mg using 1/4 pill for 2 days (this provided relief instantly but to me at the time it wasn’t enough), increased on April 23 to 10mg per doctor accompanied with bad activation symptoms and suicidal ideation April 28 - emergency reduction directly to 1.00mg, May 2 increase per new doctor - to 2.50mg, switch to manufacturer liquid on May 4, May 13 - 2.45, May 14 - 2.40, May 15 - 2.40, May 16 - 2.30. Begin slide down for activation relief (MM/DD) 2024 -> 06/20: 2.26mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaredDad Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 @brassmonkeycan I please ask you one last question? I’m so desperate. I’ve been holding at 2.30mg for about a month and every time I take my dose 4-5 hours later I have a meaningful increase in symptoms. I did a 1% drop 2.28mg recently to test the waters but am so so scared. what would you recommend if I’m feeling increased symptoms from my dose? My brain tells me this is making me worse but I get nervous believing myself too much sometimes intermittent klonopin 0.5mg this whole time. Never ever felt addicted. Probably averaged 1 a week the entirety of this. Last dose ~April 21, 2024 July 2018 - lexapro 10mg October 2018 - Lexapro 15mg November 2018 - July 2022 - various lexapro doses ended at 2.5mg August 2022 - life events and then strange symptoms lead to increase to 15mg - although I now know this was the start of withdrawal. Stabilize on 15mg in November. April 2023 - September 2023 taper down on an unregulated basis and stop in September. Feel great until December 2023 when drinking alcohol several times destabilized me. January 2024 Reinstate 5mg and taper to 10mg (feel ok but still not sleeping great and weird nerve sensations, convince myself it’s the pill) February 10 2024 - April 2024 - taper to zero where I spent a week and half before cratering and reinstated on April 21 at 2.5mg using 1/4 pill for 2 days (this provided relief instantly but to me at the time it wasn’t enough), increased on April 23 to 10mg per doctor accompanied with bad activation symptoms and suicidal ideation April 28 - emergency reduction directly to 1.00mg, May 2 increase per new doctor - to 2.50mg, switch to manufacturer liquid on May 4, May 13 - 2.45, May 14 - 2.40, May 15 - 2.40, May 16 - 2.30. Begin slide down for activation relief (MM/DD) 2024 -> 06/20: 2.26mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebas Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 4 hours ago, ScaredDad said: I’ve been holding at 2.30mg for about a month and every time I take my dose 4-5 hours later I have a meaningful increase in symptoms. I did a 1% drop 2.28mg recently to test the waters but am so so scared. Brass suggested a longer hold and no taper until things have settled down. That means no testing the water even 1% but keeping a steady druglevel for a longer period of time (1 month is a very short time in these circumstances). Testing means the druglevel - which was already upset and recovering - is disrupted twice, once when going down and once when coming back up again thus not contributing to stability. Take more time, rest more during daytime, avoid stimulants like caffein, alcohol, chocolate and give your CNS time te rebalance. FYI switching to manufacturer liquid beginning May also will take time to adjust to. Bye Sebas 46 years old male job in spatial planning into sports, animals and nature Started using 20 mg Paroxetine (Paxil) in 2004 for stressrelated anxiety/depression Attempted several times to stop, starting a few years after 2004 Found out in 2015 about paxil withdrawal symptoms and the 5-10% taper guideline Started using liquid paxil in 2015/2016 2018 --> 11.2 mg of paxil 2019-2023 developed severe food- and other sensitivities (anti imflammatory, anti oxidant, food colourings, oils, herbs, chemicals etc.) 12/2023 Had been building up for 4 years to Poop-out/tolerance, introducing brassmonkey slide method 0.1mg/week 26/1/2024 10 mg (journey halfway). 14/7/2024 8.4 mg No supplements, strict diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaredDad Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 @Sebas thanks a lot for the response Sebas. I’m desperately trying to figure out recommendations on my reactivity to the dosing. I get hit every time I dose. After speaking with Mark H he suggested a trial reduction to see if I had a reduction in dose reactivity so that’s what I tried. again I appreciate all the help. intermittent klonopin 0.5mg this whole time. Never ever felt addicted. Probably averaged 1 a week the entirety of this. Last dose ~April 21, 2024 July 2018 - lexapro 10mg October 2018 - Lexapro 15mg November 2018 - July 2022 - various lexapro doses ended at 2.5mg August 2022 - life events and then strange symptoms lead to increase to 15mg - although I now know this was the start of withdrawal. Stabilize on 15mg in November. April 2023 - September 2023 taper down on an unregulated basis and stop in September. Feel great until December 2023 when drinking alcohol several times destabilized me. January 2024 Reinstate 5mg and taper to 10mg (feel ok but still not sleeping great and weird nerve sensations, convince myself it’s the pill) February 10 2024 - April 2024 - taper to zero where I spent a week and half before cratering and reinstated on April 21 at 2.5mg using 1/4 pill for 2 days (this provided relief instantly but to me at the time it wasn’t enough), increased on April 23 to 10mg per doctor accompanied with bad activation symptoms and suicidal ideation April 28 - emergency reduction directly to 1.00mg, May 2 increase per new doctor - to 2.50mg, switch to manufacturer liquid on May 4, May 13 - 2.45, May 14 - 2.40, May 15 - 2.40, May 16 - 2.30. Begin slide down for activation relief (MM/DD) 2024 -> 06/20: 2.26mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator brassmonkey Posted June 17 Author Moderator Share Posted June 17 Finding stability once it is lost can take a very long time. It is not a matter of several days, but more like many months. During that time, any changes to "test the waters" just starts the whole process all over again. Many people find it hard to believe that doing nothing is being proactive and is very important. During these extended hold periods, the body will throw any and all means of symptoms at the person. It is just its way of sorting out what is going on and getting back to center. There isn't much that can be done about it except to hold on and "enjoy the ride". This is where acceptance and coping skills are honed to a fine edge. I haven't seen it mentioned in a while, but we have a technique called AAF (Acknowledge, Accept, Float) that is quite helpful. Do a site search, there is a lot of information. 3 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaredDad Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 @brassmonkey@Sebas thanks team. My daughter was born this morning and I’ve been a level 10 wreck… she is truly beautiful and needs her dad. I’m so sensitized to everything it’s almost like I can’t even eat most foods. My nervous system is completely fried. Not knowing what else to do I will be left to hold… I just hope that these dose reactions die down because they are quite unfortunate. 3 intermittent klonopin 0.5mg this whole time. Never ever felt addicted. Probably averaged 1 a week the entirety of this. Last dose ~April 21, 2024 July 2018 - lexapro 10mg October 2018 - Lexapro 15mg November 2018 - July 2022 - various lexapro doses ended at 2.5mg August 2022 - life events and then strange symptoms lead to increase to 15mg - although I now know this was the start of withdrawal. Stabilize on 15mg in November. April 2023 - September 2023 taper down on an unregulated basis and stop in September. Feel great until December 2023 when drinking alcohol several times destabilized me. January 2024 Reinstate 5mg and taper to 10mg (feel ok but still not sleeping great and weird nerve sensations, convince myself it’s the pill) February 10 2024 - April 2024 - taper to zero where I spent a week and half before cratering and reinstated on April 21 at 2.5mg using 1/4 pill for 2 days (this provided relief instantly but to me at the time it wasn’t enough), increased on April 23 to 10mg per doctor accompanied with bad activation symptoms and suicidal ideation April 28 - emergency reduction directly to 1.00mg, May 2 increase per new doctor - to 2.50mg, switch to manufacturer liquid on May 4, May 13 - 2.45, May 14 - 2.40, May 15 - 2.40, May 16 - 2.30. Begin slide down for activation relief (MM/DD) 2024 -> 06/20: 2.26mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Catina7 Posted June 18 Mentor Share Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, ScaredDad said: My daughter was born this morning Aww congratulations @ScaredDad! 👶 🍼💜 Disclaimer: This is not professional medical advice but is based on personal experience only. 1994 - 2017: Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Seroquel, Buspar, Lorazepam, Xanax, Ambien 2005-present: Trazodone 50 mg 2017: Effexor XR 37.5 >> 75 mg 2020 (March): Began 10% monthly taper of Effexor XR (got down to 12 mg) 2021 (September): Completely crashed. Went back up to 37.5 mg but I kindled myself 2024 (Avg. bead count per capsule is 111): 1/1: -6 | 2/1: -11 | 3/1: -16 | 4/1: -18 | 5/1: -21 | 6/1 -25 | 7/1 HOLD | 8/1 -29 | 9/7 -33 Reasons for starting psych meds: PMDD/Depression, Generalized Anxiety Disorder Other medications: Levothyroxine 75 mcg Supplements: Dr. Berg's Electrolyte Powder on occasion Never give up Holding On with Patience & Endurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator brassmonkey Posted June 18 Author Moderator Share Posted June 18 Congrats man. Deep breaths and AAF. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebas Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Congrats with your daughter. I know from experience that several life events have been (severely) impacted by WD. Don't even mention food sensitivities. Ive been on an extremely restricted diet for the last couple of years. On 6/17/2024 at 1:05 PM, ScaredDad said: every time I take my dose 4-5 hours later I have a meaningful increase in symptoms What time do you take this dose and what do you do, eat and drink in these 4-5 hours after as in daily routines? Check if there is anything possibly conflicting/upsetting WD. Just an example i had shampoo, perfume and many other products interfering with WD. One more request, please update your signature in a more detailed way from april 2023 to april 28. It's hard to analyse what has been the exact course of action. These big changes as well up as down (of course not knowing) and in form of substance (pil liquid) have a big impact on the nerve system. Thats why you have become hypersensitive. Any new change will only upset CNS even more. Your body needs a stabile dose to regain stability in midterm. Bye Sebas and enjoy the newborn 46 years old male job in spatial planning into sports, animals and nature Started using 20 mg Paroxetine (Paxil) in 2004 for stressrelated anxiety/depression Attempted several times to stop, starting a few years after 2004 Found out in 2015 about paxil withdrawal symptoms and the 5-10% taper guideline Started using liquid paxil in 2015/2016 2018 --> 11.2 mg of paxil 2019-2023 developed severe food- and other sensitivities (anti imflammatory, anti oxidant, food colourings, oils, herbs, chemicals etc.) 12/2023 Had been building up for 4 years to Poop-out/tolerance, introducing brassmonkey slide method 0.1mg/week 26/1/2024 10 mg (journey halfway). 14/7/2024 8.4 mg No supplements, strict diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaredDad Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, Sebas said: What time do you take this dose and what do you do, eat and drink in these 4-5 hours after as in daily routines? Check if there is anything possibly conflicting/upsetting WD. Just an example i had shampoo, perfume and many other products interfering with WD. Thanks so so much for helping me here. When I take my dose at 8am I eat 2 scrambled eggs and a piece of toast and then take it just after. I only drink water and nothing else. Usually for lunch at 1230 I eat something like chicken breast, rice, and green beans. I’m 95% it’s sure it’s the dose. I use an all natural shampoo I bought from a health store as well as Castile soap in the shower. For tooth paste I use periopaste and I pretty much don’t wear deodorant anymore. I updated my signature to be exactly what happened. When I was on 1.0mg that was advised here (I was making my own liquid when I went to 1.0) after reducing from 10.0mg, I had more of my typical WD symptoms - racing heart, anxiety, doom, fear, insomnia, etc. I should’ve stayed here as I had slightly better times popping up on the 1.0 but one seriously bad night made me find more help. When I went up to 10.0mg is when everything went haywire, first time I was being like electrocuted. At 1.0 this went away pretty quickly. But it came back when I went to 2.5 and has been around since… My SI was so bad yesterday the only thing that deterred the thoughts was the fact it was my new daughters birthday.. I need guidance bad guys. I’m in a bad way. I had ZERO SI until I reinstated 10. The first dose that night I was contemplating it instantly. when I was advised to go to 2.5 within a day I was telling people I was worse rapidly. I was told conflicting things - people here said it was too high but I was scared to listen and go against others and was told to hold it there. Now I’m too far in, earlier on I was advised here to go back down quickly before dependent but I didn’t listen fast enough. My body was already dependent on that dose to be fair but I just mean now I’ve been here a while.. I feel I would’ve been ok before reinstating and this killed me, my crazy reinstatement sent me off the edge intermittent klonopin 0.5mg this whole time. Never ever felt addicted. Probably averaged 1 a week the entirety of this. Last dose ~April 21, 2024 July 2018 - lexapro 10mg October 2018 - Lexapro 15mg November 2018 - July 2022 - various lexapro doses ended at 2.5mg August 2022 - life events and then strange symptoms lead to increase to 15mg - although I now know this was the start of withdrawal. Stabilize on 15mg in November. April 2023 - September 2023 taper down on an unregulated basis and stop in September. Feel great until December 2023 when drinking alcohol several times destabilized me. January 2024 Reinstate 5mg and taper to 10mg (feel ok but still not sleeping great and weird nerve sensations, convince myself it’s the pill) February 10 2024 - April 2024 - taper to zero where I spent a week and half before cratering and reinstated on April 21 at 2.5mg using 1/4 pill for 2 days (this provided relief instantly but to me at the time it wasn’t enough), increased on April 23 to 10mg per doctor accompanied with bad activation symptoms and suicidal ideation April 28 - emergency reduction directly to 1.00mg, May 2 increase per new doctor - to 2.50mg, switch to manufacturer liquid on May 4, May 13 - 2.45, May 14 - 2.40, May 15 - 2.40, May 16 - 2.30. Begin slide down for activation relief (MM/DD) 2024 -> 06/20: 2.26mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebas Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 8 hours ago, ScaredDad said: Usually for lunch at 1230 I eat something like chicken breast, rice, and green beans. I’m 95% it’s sure it’s the dose. Do you feel these symptoms popping up before or after you had lunch? 46 years old male job in spatial planning into sports, animals and nature Started using 20 mg Paroxetine (Paxil) in 2004 for stressrelated anxiety/depression Attempted several times to stop, starting a few years after 2004 Found out in 2015 about paxil withdrawal symptoms and the 5-10% taper guideline Started using liquid paxil in 2015/2016 2018 --> 11.2 mg of paxil 2019-2023 developed severe food- and other sensitivities (anti imflammatory, anti oxidant, food colourings, oils, herbs, chemicals etc.) 12/2023 Had been building up for 4 years to Poop-out/tolerance, introducing brassmonkey slide method 0.1mg/week 26/1/2024 10 mg (journey halfway). 14/7/2024 8.4 mg No supplements, strict diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaredDad Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 @Sebasi can move this to my thread if need be. But they start just right before. intermittent klonopin 0.5mg this whole time. Never ever felt addicted. Probably averaged 1 a week the entirety of this. Last dose ~April 21, 2024 July 2018 - lexapro 10mg October 2018 - Lexapro 15mg November 2018 - July 2022 - various lexapro doses ended at 2.5mg August 2022 - life events and then strange symptoms lead to increase to 15mg - although I now know this was the start of withdrawal. Stabilize on 15mg in November. April 2023 - September 2023 taper down on an unregulated basis and stop in September. Feel great until December 2023 when drinking alcohol several times destabilized me. January 2024 Reinstate 5mg and taper to 10mg (feel ok but still not sleeping great and weird nerve sensations, convince myself it’s the pill) February 10 2024 - April 2024 - taper to zero where I spent a week and half before cratering and reinstated on April 21 at 2.5mg using 1/4 pill for 2 days (this provided relief instantly but to me at the time it wasn’t enough), increased on April 23 to 10mg per doctor accompanied with bad activation symptoms and suicidal ideation April 28 - emergency reduction directly to 1.00mg, May 2 increase per new doctor - to 2.50mg, switch to manufacturer liquid on May 4, May 13 - 2.45, May 14 - 2.40, May 15 - 2.40, May 16 - 2.30. Begin slide down for activation relief (MM/DD) 2024 -> 06/20: 2.26mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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