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Has anyone used this device and seen it help with some symptoms? It looks interesting and the science makes a lot of sense! 
 

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37 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

 

Unfortunately SandyMay87 did not respond with her experience and I don't think JoButterworth tried it either. I am still curious myself @OptimisticRP. But then I get really skeptical about anything that is helpful for people with a "normal" nervous system, and how that translates to our world.

 

Earlier in WD I thought that perhaps my Galaxy Smart Watch was triggering my symptoms, because it is constantly monitoring heartrate, can "measure" stress and all sorts of other things. But I guess it is more "looking" at (or through) your skin versus sending signals or vibrations into it? I am back to wearing it daily with no issues of course. 

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2 hours ago, YachtRock said:

 

Unfortunately SandyMay87 did not respond with her experience and I don't think JoButterworth tried it either. I am still curious myself @OptimisticRP. But then I get really skeptical about anything that is helpful for people with a "normal" nervous system, and how that translates to our world.

 

Earlier in WD I thought that perhaps my Galaxy Smart Watch was triggering my symptoms, because it is constantly monitoring heartrate, can "measure" stress and all sorts of other things. But I guess it is more "looking" at (or through) your skin versus sending signals or vibrations into it? I am back to wearing it daily with no issues of course. 

Yeah it’s interesting, I just thought it could help because it reminds your body how it should be acting 🤷🏻‍♂️ And it seems subtle. Also, a device tracking your vitals and stuff doesn’t effect you.  I think it is beneficial to see. 

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August 2021: Propanol 10MG-20MG as needed 

September 2021: weened off escitalopram over a week.

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November 10th: stopped - 10MG 2 days. 
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I'd be highly suspicious of this - if it did indeed have all of these benefits it would have been approved as a medical device. Given the price tag and the way it works (vibration) it seems a bit suspicious. I'd need to see peer reviewed studies - although those can be faked as well. There are lots of people who will sell snake oil to desperate people.

 

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11 minutes ago, Onmyway said:

I'd be highly suspicious of this - if it did indeed have all of these benefits it would have been approved as a medical device. Given the price tag and the way it works (vibration) it seems a bit suspicious. I'd need to see peer reviewed studies - although those can be faked as well. There are lots of people who will sell snake oil to desperate people.

 

Just seems like subtle improvements and there is some studies on it. Doctors made the device as well. 30 day return policy also. And 1 year warranty. 

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2 minutes ago, OptimisticRP said:

Just seems like subtle improvements and there is some studies on it. Doctors made the device as well. 30 day return policy also. And 1 year warranty. 

Studies can be designed badly/faked. And doctors can be crooks - check out psychiatry.  Doctors are just as likely to be greedy bastards.

 

Why did they not submit those studies to the FDA to be able to sell it to treat depression? I don't see a proper explanation of how it works at least not one that makes scientific sense and they are using a lot of mumbo jumbo language.

 

I don't think you'll find benefit from it but I also don't think you'll be harmed by it so you can try it if you wish.

 

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Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up)

September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0

Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd

March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week

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