amg2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 Amg, what does the Prozac feel like compared with the Effexor? More or less stimulating? Your question is something I have not actually thought about in that way. Maybe because I don't want meds to "do" something to me. I have hated that I have been so tired so much of the time on Effexor.... feel like it has been a waste of precious time. At my time of life - more years behind me than ahead of me - time is too precious to waste. See my next note to Astro -- I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 Alto, Five good days and now on second day of increasing fatigue. Today so very tired and my brain is sluggish.... I find this so unacceptable.... I feel time slipping through my fingers, and it makes me so and ! So, can anyone out there tell me if is this a normal part of the withdrawal or am I simply back to where I was with the Efexor which made me so darn tired all the time anyway. Not sure, maybe I should turn my capsules into liquid and start tapering Prozac; maybe I would feel better on less. I have been on Prozac over a month now and over 6 weeks since I cut from 112.5 mg of Effexor to 75mg... I believe my 20 mg. of Prozac is about the same as 20 mg. Prozac. ???? Any thoughts from anyone experienced with this would be most welcome I would like to start tapering as these drugs defintely make me tired.... (no smiley for that?) I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 Alto et al It is actually 2 months since I cut from 112 mg of Effrexor to 75 mg... as I said, brain sluggish. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Skyler Posted August 9, 2012 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 9, 2012 I would like to start tapering as these drugs defintely make me tired.... (no smiley for that?) As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule. Requip - 3/16 ZERO Total time on 25 years. Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10) Total time on 25 years. Read my intro thread here, and check the about me section. "No matter how cynical you get, it's almost impossible to keep up." Lily Tomlin Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 I would like to start tapering as these drugs defintely make me tired.... (no smiley for that?) Well, so there is a smiley. Clicked to link but the site has a poor reputation by WOT. darn. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Skyler Posted August 9, 2012 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 9, 2012 I would like to start tapering as these drugs defintely make me tired.... (no smiley for that?) Well, so there is a smiley. Clicked to link but the site has a poor reputation by WOT. darn. Has a poor reputation? I've been using the site for months, and my browser/antivirus give no such warning.. ? What means Wot.darn? hehehe, just found this one As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule. Requip - 3/16 ZERO Total time on 25 years. Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10) Total time on 25 years. Read my intro thread here, and check the about me section. "No matter how cynical you get, it's almost impossible to keep up." Lily Tomlin Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 I would like to start tapering as these drugs defintely make me tired.... (no smiley for that?) Well, so there is a smiley. Clicked to link but the site has a poor reputation by WOT. darn. Has a poor reputation? I've been using the site for months, and my browser/antivirus give no such warning.. ? What means Wot.darn? hehehe, just found this one That one is so cute too. WOT is a web site that I have downloaded and it helps to find safe and unsafe web sites. http://www.mywot.com/ I added Darn after I was informed the link to your cute smilies was a "not trusted" site. You may want to check out this link I sent you and download it... these days, I'd rather be safer than sorry. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Skyler Posted August 9, 2012 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 9, 2012 That one is so cute too. WOT is a web site that I have downloaded and it helps to find safe and unsafe web sites. http://www.mywot.com/ I added Darn after I was informed the link to your cute smilies was a "not trusted" site. You may want to check out this link I sent you and download it... these days, I'd rather be safer than sorry. Thanks.. and I will check it out, but for this site really is tried and true.. I've used it prolly a hundred times or better. No problemos. Some of the warning software seems to pick up on unorthodox website 'configurations' that are harmless so I usually steer clear. As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule. Requip - 3/16 ZERO Total time on 25 years. Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10) Total time on 25 years. Read my intro thread here, and check the about me section. "No matter how cynical you get, it's almost impossible to keep up." Lily Tomlin Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 Alto Hi again. Wondering if you saw my Post #74 ? I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 10, 2012 Administrator Share Posted August 10, 2012 Very cute smilies. I don't know why you're fatigued, amg. Your withdrawal history is a little irregular! Personally, I think sleeping a lot is a good sign and much better than not being able to sleep at all, which is a frequent withdrawal symptom. You might try reducing the Prozac, maybe by 2mg (10%), and see what happens. PS I deleted your duplicate post in the Prozac bridge topic. Sorry I didn't see your question earlier. I always look in the Intro forum first for new posts, but I'm not online all the time. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 Very cute smilies. I don't know why you're fatigued, amg. Your withdrawal history is a little irregular! Personally, I think sleeping a lot is a good sign and much better than not being able to sleep at all, which is a frequent withdrawal symptom. You might try reducing the Prozac, maybe by 2mg (10%), and see what happens. Thanks, Alto. Yes, I realize you aren't on-site 24/7 I agree that sleeping a lot is much better than not sleeping at all. BTW I believe I have become more light-sensitive since withdrawal? Any one else report this symptom? Also saw on this site (more to read here than I have time/energy at least for now)information about Ultraspec 2000 blue light blocker glasses. I need this for sure.... I will try finding them locally. About reducing the Prozac - this is really what my gut tells me I need to do. As I have said, I have been experiencing extreme fatigue most of the time I have been on Effexor... I believe I will be much better off them and replace with exercise. So, in liquid this is 5 ML less 10% = 4.5 ML and I will try this for ___ not sure. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 10, 2012 Administrator Share Posted August 10, 2012 Try it for a week, at least. It will take Prozac a while to reduce in your bloodstream. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 Try it for a week, at least. It will take Prozac a while to reduce in your bloodstream. Alto, your suggestion has been duly noted... in that these drugs make me so tired; I am anxious to see if I improve in this regard by taking less or none. Thanks, as always. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Alto Hi. Just checking in to report on my progress. It has been 8 days since my first reduction of Prozac in liquid form which I am making in water - I do not find the taste that bad at all, actually I found the Prozac purchased in liquid form to be too sweet. I have been feeling better and starting to function again. Glad to see glimmers of the old grey brain cells. I know I need to spend more time reading here but I am so very far behind in all life's demands : Too little time, so much to do! I plan on listening to my body so today, I will take 1 gram less and see how I do. BTW, I sent you a personal message a couple of days ago.... did it get to you? We are on the shorter end of summer - I hope you are enjoying it! AMG I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 18, 2012 Administrator Share Posted August 18, 2012 That's good news, amg. I am swamped with just keeping up with the site, it takes me a while to get to pms. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 Altostrata, I posted this under Tapering but that thread seems to now be about brain games and my post is amid, so here it is again: Tapering: I am wondering if tapering Fluoxetine by 1 mg per week is considered acceptable? Although I have had an occasional day of extreme fatigue, I feel like I am doing much better; less is best for me it seems. My thinking is that I should keep trying this weekly adjustment of 1 mg unless I have a very negative response. This would mean 17 more weeks if all goes well. Any opinions on this would be welcome. Just did an aerobic class - first one in ages, and ages. A challenge, but I feel good. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 24, 2012 Administrator Share Posted August 24, 2012 Yes, you might try 1mg reduction per week. Do that twice. If you get any withdrawal symptoms, you'll know that's too fast, if no symptoms, you could try reducing 1mg every 4 days. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Yes, you might try 1mg reduction per week. Do that twice. If you get any withdrawal symptoms, you'll know that's too fast, if no symptoms, you could try reducing 1mg every 4 days. Thanks for the suggestion, Alto... much appreciated. Will take your NON-advice I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 24, 2012 Administrator Share Posted August 24, 2012 Okay, 1mg per week is fine! This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 Okay, reduced 1 mg. again today. Hooray! Fingers crossed that I will not have withdrawal reaction. Worked out again at the Gym yesterday - could not keep up, but since at 68 I am (almost always) the oldest in the Aerobics Class, it is expected anyway. This morning I got up and got going - recognize my old self! Yesterday I started getting creative again. I am a Home & Garden person and making both beautiful is my passion.... good to see that coming back too. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
amg2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Alto, Hi! An update on my progress.... it has been a week since my last 1 mg. reduction if Prozac. A couple of days after I did this last taper, I started getting the W.D. symptoms back and they have worsened all week. I am quite sure I have put my neck out (literally) at the computer, which is causing a lot of body pain; quite sure that is the cause. BUT, also so dragged out, so very tired with little energy. And this makes me upset because I was so much enjoying seeing a little of my old self back. My question: Are these current withdrawal symptoms a result of Effexor Withdrawal or tapering to quickly off of the Prozac. I sense that it is the absence of Effexor, but I would like your experienced feedback on this? Can withdrawal from Effexor haunt one for a long time? Also, should I stay at the 16 mg. of Prozac for now? I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 1, 2012 Administrator Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yes, the Effexor withdrawal can last a long time, even if you're taking Prozac. Perhaps that last decrease was too much, too soon? If you felt better before dropping 1mg, add the 1mg back and hold for a good while, a few weeks. You might have to make much smaller decreases if you want to decrease every week. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Alto Thanks yet again for you comments and support. I really think it is still the Efexor that has caused my problems the last few days, but poor sleep due to pain emanating from the neck to my arms and even one hand may be contributing to fatigue. I did some neck exercises yesterday, slept better last night and had more energy most of the day. So, I decided to cut back one more mg. of Prozac and am hopeful that all will be well. One thing I find odd is that when I stopped Efexor, my intenstinal system which was so very good, changed for the worse and has yet to recover... and it's been about 3 months since this process started. Odd. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus strawberry17 Posted September 3, 2012 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 3, 2012 Hi Just read your thread, you're doing so well. I'm tapering liquid Prozac too but my progress has been very long drawn out, almost ridiculously so LOL Alto is right, hold where you are now until you feel really good again and then make the next cut. Liked your comment about Canadians always saying thank you, I'm a Brit and we're always saying sorry!!! Strawberry *** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/ Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007. Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Hi Just read your thread, you're doing so well. I'm tapering liquid Prozac too but my progress has been very long drawn out, almost ridiculously so LOL Alto is right, hold where you are now until you feel really good again and then make the next cut. Liked your comment about Canadians always saying thank you, I'm a Brit and we're always saying sorry!!! Strawberry Strawberry, Well, thank you re "doing so well." I am now down to 15 mg. of liquid Fluoxetine. I believe I am doing okay, on this... I have had the odd rough day but that's acceptable to me... I really want off of this stuff. I have not been feeling great for over a week but am sure this is to do with a "pain in the neck" The pain goes down my arms, across shoulders, etc. etc. and makes me cranky and has been disrupting my sleep. So, I think this is the problem at the moment. Overall, I really feel like I'm getting my mojo back. I really think that eating very healthy food 90% of the time (my only junk food is home made popcorn done in a little canola oil) helps a lot. Also I eat plenty of fresh fruits and veggies, with smallish portions of protein - no processed food. I am back exercising when I can - went to a cardio kickbox class today in spite of the pain... came home and crashed and remembered that I am 69 this month and cannot keep up with these younger ladies. I am seeing a social worker to sort out my dull and boring life. There is a poster in the waiting room that says - Attitude is contagious! Is yours worth catching? Trying to focus on that! Strawberry, (so sweet a name) I do hope you progress at whatever speed is comfortable for you and find peace with that. Speaking of Brits, I just watched the film from 1989? Shirley Valentine again. Love that film and am thinking of running away - Greece should be pretty cheap these days I think my husband is worried. I'm tired and rattling - tis after midnight. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
amg2012 Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Alto Hi and how are you? What's it like in beautiful San Francisco? I went down to 14 mg of Flueoxitine this week, and I have noticed that I am breaking out into a sweat now and again - more often than usual and in a manner that I don't think is familiar (done a lot of sweating being 68 due to usual femal problems plus effexor). Can this be withdrawal? If so, is this the withdrawal from Effexor or from the Prozac taper? How can one know? Just broke into a sweat while writing now. I do not know where to find the daily checklist of withdrawal symptoms - can you guide me please? Other than the sweats I am a little tired. I am still fighting pain from being out of alignment, but other than that I am function okay. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 14, 2012 Administrator Share Posted September 14, 2012 It's beautiful here, thanks! Yep, strange sweating is a withdrawal symptom. Click on this link to find Important topics in the Tapering forum, including the symptoms checklist. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Alto Thanks for replying and affirming the sweat source! Also for the link. Not sure if I am going too fast... I may stay where I am now until the sweats settle down. Perhaps from here when I taper again it will be by half a ml rather than a whole one. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
amg2012 Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Alto, Oops, I meant mg not ml. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
amg2012 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Alto I am still experiencing a great deal of body pain due to spinal alignment problems... working on finding the right help for this. Meantime, the pain challenges my daily life. I am not sweating so much and will cut back my Prozac dosage again today. I wanted to ask your help in locating the information on magnesium that tells me why I need it during withdrawal (what is happening to the body during W.D. to the magnesium - and how much to take. Searching "magnesium" brings up so much information. I cannot spend much time at the computer because sitting for long hurts - so if you cnnoarrow this for me I would be happy. I am experiencing leg cramping and I am taking some magnesium. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 17, 2012 Administrator Share Posted September 17, 2012 http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1300-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/ http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2871-healing-bath-for-anyone-who-hurts-or-simply-needs-to-relax-httpwpmep5nnb-7wj/ This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hello Alto, Just to thank you for the above links which I checked out. I now know "why" and "how much." I was taking too much magnesium citrate and have cut back. Still have huge issues with overall pain from alignment problems and am getting help forthwith! Still gradually tapering the Flueoxetine .. with the "alignment issues" it is a little bit of a challenge to know what is causing what symptom. For sure I get sweats when I taper. They disapated, I cut down a little, and they reappeared. I try and come on this board now and again (as I have said, I am behind in my life) but I want to help and "pay back" when I can. I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 20, 2012 Administrator Share Posted September 20, 2012 I have a bad back myself, I've found Pilates and occasional chiro to help immensely. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Altostrata Well, I am now on zilch mg. of any anti-depressant. I just checked the date I started to withdraw and it was the 5th of June and here I am at the 5th of November; 5 months later and FREE. So far so good, I think. Because I have another problem, it is somewhat difficult to know if I am having any withdrawal symptoms. I am terribly out of alignment which causes a lot of body ache - mostly in my arms but really pretty well all-over... also get short lived little electric-like sensations which are brief and are mostly in my left leg, knee and foot. Also experiencing a lot of head ache, ear ache - oh, it goes, on and on. I'm not sure if I mentioned that x-rays show that I now have stage 4 degeneration (arthritis) in C1 and C2 vertebrae. I am working on getting help for this problem, of course. Meantime, I do think I am free of anti-depressants and would like to say YIPPEE. However, I know I have to be very careful as the aches and pains are creating too much isolation and the days are getting way too short. Also, I have taken a sleep aid for a couple of nights... one is always more aware of pain when in bed trying to sleep. I know depression lurks in the wings, And that drugs can be addictive things, So I must be on guard and take my stance, healthy food, some sunshine and daily dance! AMG I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus strawberry17 Posted November 6, 2012 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 6, 2012 Well done and I love the little poem, I might steal it *** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/ Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007. Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido. Link to comment
amg2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Well done and I love the little poem, I might steal it Thank you Strawberry... just hope I can hold on as this is a difficult time. You may use the poem (just put my initials at the bottom, please) The first 2 lines just came to me as I was writing and thinking, I had to work a little on the last 2 lines. Daily Dance is, of course, a euphemism for exercise... but if I could, I would dance my way to a perfect 69 year old body! ha ha ha ha! I will be posting my little poem on my bathroom mirror, above my computer and on the fridge door!!! Reminders! I have an appointment with an Osteopath tomorrow and the very idea of at least reducing pain is, well, hope in hand! I think! Too much! Jan. 2009 150 mg. Venlafaxine 2012 5 June 112.5 mg. Venflx 25 June 75 mg. Venflx 8 July Fluox 5ML (0 Venflx)[/b] 10 July aprox. 20 mg Fluoxetine liquid, trouble measuring between 4 - 5 ml, 0 Venflx. 15 July Fluox 5 ML + Vnflx. 10 - 6 grains 24 July Fluox 5ML + 37.5 mg Venflx. 10 Aug Fluox 4.5 ML 13 Aug.Fluox 18 mg liquid; 18 Aug. Fluox 17 mg; 25 Aug. Fluox 16 mg; 2 Sept Fluox 15 mg; 10 Sept Fluox 14 mg; 17 Sept. Fluox 13.6 mg; 29 Sept. Fluox 13 mg. 7 Oct. Fluox 12 mg; 14 Oct. Fluox 11 mg; 21 Oct; Fluox 10 mg; 23 Oct. 9mg; 26 Oct. 8 mg. 21 Nov. 5 mg; 3 Nov. ZERO Link to comment
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