savinggrace Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Hey, No problem Pistol. Just trying to prevent someone from making the same mistakes I did. SA is a much better place to help you make decisions regarding these drugs. (Actually most drugs should be carefully considered) Grace 1 amitriptyline from 1980-2002, intermittent use of benzos over 2 decades prior to 2002 2002-2010 Klonopin 1-2 mg., ambien 10--20, mg, remeron 4 mg. and trileptal 300 mg 2011 Stopped ambien and crossed over to valium 17.5 mg. (updosing 2.5 mg. to cover ambien C/T ) tapered valium w/ long holds to 12.74 mg. from a high of approximately 20-30 mg/day 2015-present tapered trileptal aggressively for a year; now intermittently; interacts w/ other drugs currently 2024 still on 96 mg. trileptal and 4 mg. remeron Currently on benzo hold as I have to cross-over from brand-name valium to generic diazepam. Current dose of diazepam is 8.8 and valium is 5.7. I had to up-dose the total valium/diazepam from 12.74 to 14.5 where I have stayed since June 2023. I am crossing over to generic at a somewhat tolerable rate of .3mg/month after about 2 months of trial/error w/ updosing. I am not currently tapering; will continue to cross over. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 Thank you Grace.. I agree ..I was given an antidepressant for sleeping ? Looking back now I just want to kick myself in the rear for not doing my research. If and when I do get off this one I hope to never be on another one. Thanks again for looking out for me 1 Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
tsranga Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 hours ago, PistolShrimp68 said: Thank you Grace.. I agree ..I was given an antidepressant for sleeping ? Looking back now I just want to kick myself in the rear for not doing my research. If and when I do get off this one I hope to never be on another one. Thanks again for looking out for me I am sorry that you are going through this. Unfortunately what you are going through is very common and when you change doses frequently and add other drugs into the mix, it becomes hard for the body to deal with. I would suggest sticking to 11.25 as that is what you were stable on for a while. Stay on that dose until you get your sleep back. Alternatively, you could try 7.5mg for a month, as mirtazapine has stronger sedation at lower doses. But either way, stick with one dose until you are stable. Chronic IBS since 1990 Former smoker (1992- Jun 2017) Prescribed mirtazapine for sleep in Aug 2017 after IBS flare-up following Nicotine cessation. Mirtazapine 7.5mg 8/17 to 5/18 Mirtazapine 3.75mg 5/18 to 1/19 Off Mirtazapine since 2/19. Vit B, Vit D+K2 and Magnesium Glycinate as needed. On Ayurvedic herbs for GI issues - Guduchi since Jul 2020, Indukantham since Oct 2020 On Ashwagandha 1g since Nov 2020 Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 Hi @tsranga Thank you for the information and I realize I have jumped around too much. I’m currently trying to stabilize for the last six weeks. Between no sleep and antsy to get off this medicine I’ve been kind of squirelly. I appreciate the recommendations And I will try to stay put until I start sleeping. Thank you again for taking the time to try to help me. Thank you Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 5, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 5, 2022 What time o'clock do you take latanoprost? Please include it and any other drugs you take in your daily notes. On 10/3/2022 at 10:01 AM, PistolShrimp68 said: 10:45 took 11:25Mg of Mirtazapine 11:20. Vibrations in head and chest with heart palpitations Does this usually occur after you take mirtazapine? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 Hi @Altostrata I usually take the latanpoprist around 9-9:30PM. Also, after I take my Mirtazapine I always get the vibrating in my head & chest with heart Palpitations. Maybe just once a week I might get away with not feeling it if I fall asleep quick enoug, but it’s usually there. Thank you for trying to help me Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 5, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 5, 2022 It appears you are taking too much mirtazapine, you are getting an adverse reaction. Suggest you reduce it to 11mg. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Hi @Altostrata I dropped down to 11 mg last night as you suggested. The problem is when I woke up I was having anxiety/adrenaline rushes through chest and head that would last 12 seconds at a time throughout the night. The only thing that I have changed is dropping my medicine from 11.25 to 11 mg. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 6, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 6, 2022 On 10/4/2022 at 7:52 PM, PistolShrimp68 said: after I take my Mirtazapine I always get the vibrating in my head & chest with heart Palpitations. Did this happen last night? It can take 10 days for a decrease in mirtazapine dosage to take full effect. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Good evening, Yes I still felt them… Problem is that I’m not a spring chicken anymore. Thanks for taking the time to check on me Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 6, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 6, 2022 This should diminish with your dosage reductions. Please let us know how you're doing. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 Hi @Altostrata Last night I took the 11 mg dose dropping it down only .25 mg as you suggested and having Adrenaline rushes in chest with stomach pains, headache and zero sleep tonight. I’m shocked in only 4.5 months on Mirtazapine that a Just a 0.25 drop has caused me this many issues ?.. I’m feeling pretty hopeless over the future here . Thanks for your help Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 8, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 8, 2022 Please post 24 hours of daily notes as requested. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 12:48 PM, PistolShrimp68 said: Hi @Altostrata Thursday Oct 6th 10:30 PM dropped to 11.Mg 2:20am Woke up with Adrenaline rushes/Anxiety/ Upset stomach / head pressure 7:15 am protein shake/ Fish oil 8:30 shower 11:00. IV. Mag/VItC 11:30 ginger pill 12:00. Lunch 1:00 Snack 5:30. Dinner 7:00 400 Mag gly 8:30. Snack 10:15. 11MG mirtazapine Friday 7th 12:35am woke up shortness of breath/stomach issues/adrenaline surges Never went back to sleep 4:30 2 olly melatonin 7:00.am shortness of breath 8:30 protein shake 10:00 shower 12:20 lunch 12:30 400 mag gly / fish oil 1:30 pm. 2 Kalms herbal pills 2:45 anxiety 5:45 dinner 7:30 anxiety 9:00PM. Snack 11:00 pm. 11mg mirtazapine Sat oct 8th 12:30. Am. Adrenaline rushes, stomach issues, head pressure 1:00 am took ginger pill Never went back to sleep 3:30 am. 800 Mg. Mag Gly 4:30.Am Pepto-Bismol 6:50am . Shower 7:30am protein Shake 9:30am breakfast 12:10pm. Lunch 1:40 pm snack Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 8, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 8, 2022 This does not appear to be much different from the symptom pattern you reported before: This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 Hi @Altostrata Usually I have issues it’s with the vibrating in my head and back with heart palpitations after taking my meds. The last couple nights since dropping my dose it’s adrenaline rushes through my chest with head pressure and pain with stomach pain issues. I’m sorry if I confused you. Thank you Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 8, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, PistolShrimp68 said: the vibrating in my head and back with heart palpitations after taking my meds Has this stopped? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Altostrata said: I’m sorry to say not yet Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 8, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 8, 2022 Please include the symptoms that occur after you take mirtazapine each night in your daily notes. This is what we've been concerned about, correct? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 Correct … And I sure will. Thank you for your time Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 10, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 10, 2022 Hello, @PistolShrimp68 Why do you take latanoprost around 9-9:30PM? Please post your latest daily symptom pattern notes. Thank you. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
PistolShrimp68 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 Doctor suggested I take it before bed. He said lay down on the bed put drops in eyes and let them sit for five minutes. (Sat night) 10:40.pm Took 11mg Mirt 11:40 pm( Vibrations Felt in back head and chest 1:30am woke sweating and panic 3:30 am panic and sweating with adrenaline 5:55 anxiety and restless 7:04 am took 5 Mg of Valium (didn’t want to take it but I panicked) 9:00. Shower 11:45. Lunch 2:45 pm 20mg Propanal ( tried for the first time and made heart feel funny) Dr advised for adrenaline 7:35. Dinner 8:30 Snack (Sun night) 10:15 11mg mirtazapine 11:00 Felt vibrations in back and head and Adrenaline in chest 12:35 am. Woke up sweating 2:35 woke up with adrenaline rushes in chest and stayed up 3:00 took 400 Mag gly 5:30am depression& anxiety strong 8:30am shower 9:00 protein shake 12:45. Lunch 2:45 snack Remeron 5 months in 1999 for sleep and anxiety after ATV May21 - Jun 1st. 15MG Jun 1st. - June 30th . 30MG July . 1st - July. 26th. 15 MG July. 27th- July 28th. 7.5mg July. 29th - Aug 14th. 11.25MG Aug 15 and 17th 7.5. MG. Alternate .Dr Advised Aug18th. 11.25 MG Oct 5th 11Mg zolpidem. Sept1st and 2nd ——25th through 28th thrown away Sept 29th 2022 5mg diazepam when needed latanoprost daily Link to comment
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