Elodie: Tryptophane

[Elodie]

I don't take antidepressant but I took Tryptophane 1000mg 1 day and 500mg 3 days to help for sleeping im April 2022. I had 15 Days of Headache. I couldn't concentrate anymore, sweating, fatigue, palpitations, anhedonia. I took 1x Ginseng (plant) in August and I had Brain Zap, insomnia, difficulty breathing, muscle spasms. Symptoms come wrose!!

I have emotional problem, the worst. I am afraid of losing my job (nurse). Someone had experience with Tryptophane?

Thanks you

[Gridley]

Welcome to SA, Elodie.  I'm sorry you're going through this.  

 

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April, 2022: Tryptophan (5-htp or l-tryptophan, whichever you took) 1000mg 1 day and 500mg 3 days  

August, 2022  ginseng 1X

 

Did you take 5-htp or L-tryptophan?  Here's a link about tryptophan:

 

5-HTP (5-hydroxytryptophan) and l-tryptophan - Page 2

 

It sounds as if you had an adverse reaction to the tryptophan, which means that it was basically poison to your system.  You are likely very sensitive to psychotropic substances substances that change the function of the brain, among which is tryptophan.  I'd be very careful in the future with any psychotropic substances after this strong reaction.

 

Adverse reactions to psychotropic substances generally fade with time, but unfortunately there is no way to predict how much time.  Really, the only thing you can do is take care of yourself, avoid herbs and psychotropic substances, and be patient.

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium (glycerinate is a good form) and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system.  However, because of the strong reaction you had in the past, these might not be a good idea for you.

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker 

 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems.

 

This is your introduction topic -- the place for you to ask questions, record symptoms, share your progress, and connect with other members of the SA community.  I hope you’ll find the information in the SA forums helpful for your situation.  I'm sorry that you are in the position that you need the information, but I am glad that you found us.

 

 

[Elodie]

it's hard. It was a little bit better and I did MountainBike. I had a adverse Reaction. I come back one year ago with the Symptom. I must go slowely. It's a long way. I took Fish oil this evening and I have now chills for the firstn time.

Thanks you for the answer

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[Elodie]

ok that's done. I think I must stop my job or ask for a unpaid leave. I am a nurse and people see that there is something go not good with me. Brainfog....Just a little bit Sport im April and I come back one year ago.

I took 1 pill fish oil but I did'nt see any change. I must slowly take more. For moment it's not a live but I will go better.

[Altostrata]

I am sorry you had what seems to be a severe reaction to tryptophan or tyrosine.

 

Did you also have covid in the spring?

 

Have you taken any psychiatric drugs?

[Elodie]

On 7/7/2023 at 10:42 PM, Elodie said:

No, I haven't had Covid in the spring. I took Trittico for 10 days for sleep Problem im Oktober 2021 after Covid but I haven't support it. The symptom have gone when I stopped it

I feel depersonalization a lot. But it's logic that when you made too much Sport it make stress for nervous system. Perhaps I will take a break with work. I want to take care of myself. I know what I have. This site is really very important for people like uns.

 

[Elodie]

After the Mountainbike, I was in a Brain Fog and I took a Benzodiazepine for 3 Nights. I had Muscle twitching after that. I know that I must not take this Pills. But I forgot with the Brain Fog. Do you think the Symptom came back because the Benzo?

Thanks you for the answer

Elodie

[Altostrata]

@Elodie, You last took tryptophan more than a year ago.

 

I don't understand the mountain bike connection. What symptoms are you chasing with a benzodiazepine? Benzos cause brain fog, they don't fix brain fog. Have you been taking a benzodiazepine on and off for the last year?

 

I am concerned that your symptoms might be from a medical disorder. Have you had a thorough medical checkup?

 

 

[Elodie]

Yes I took 3 pills of benzo im May 2023. I took this for Insomnia.

I took a few time Benzo im 2022 after the adverse reaction tyrosine/tryptophane.

 

Yes I had a medical check up. Everythink is ok

 

 

[Elodie]

The connection with Mountainbike is that I make a adverse reaction just after this Sport. With palpitation, nausea, insomnia...and because of that I took benzos

[Altostrata]

You might be wise to avoid exertion for a while. 

[Elodie]

Hello Dear,

 

I am better really. I have Covid now and my doctor purpose me to take antihistamine ; I have had inflammatory reactions with covid in the past. What do you think? I am afraid to make my symptom worse with an antihistamine.

 

Thanks you so much for your help.

[Altostrata]

I am sorry, we cannot offer any advice about treatment of covid.

[Elodie]

I understand. But I have just a question about antihistamine and WD. Can you take antihistamine with WD?

 

Thanks for your answer

 

Elodie

[LotusRising]

Hi @Elodie

 

You might find some alternatives to antihistamines in this topic:

 

An easy way to find topics in the forum is to do a simple google search eg. antihistamines:survivingantidepressants

 

[Elodie]

thanks you Lotus Rising

[Elodie]

I ate chicken with mustard of my father last night. Two hours later palpitation, insomnia, nausea...I can't believe how sensitive my nervous system is. The last time I eat something too strong it lasted two months with difficulty sleepping. It's depressing these relapses. I want to heal. Somebody else had Problem with mustard?

[Altostrata]

I would avoid mustard. Use site search for specific questions like this one.

[margaretLO]

On 1/28/2023 at 9:45 PM, Elodie said:

I don't take antidepressant but I took Tryptophane 1000mg 1 day and 500mg 3 days to help for sleeping im April 2022. I had 15 Days of Headache. I couldn't concentrate anymore, sweating, fatigue, palpitations, anhedonia. I took 1x Ginseng (plant) in August and I had Brain Zap, insomnia, difficulty breathing, muscle spasms. Symptoms come wrose!!

I have emotional problem, the worst. I am afraid of losing my job (nurse). Someone had experience with Tryptophane?

Thanks you

Hey. Did u got better from the gisneng? 

[Elodie]

it was long!! But I make again a nervous trauma with sport in May and a another trauma with Benocten im November. So I start from the begining.

 

How are you?

 

Elodie

[LostInCanada]

This is from you on ElaineM's thread:

thank you for all this advice. I was very agitated this morning after eating gluten

 free oatmeal. I saw you were eating cornflakes. I'm going to try...do you advise 

me to wait until I'm stabilized to try? I even react to sweet potatoes, it's 

terrible. Chicken and wild rice no reaction...what do you think are the safest 

vegetables I can try?thanks for your answer

 

Sorry you are dealing with this problem. The unfortunate thing is everyone is so individual. For me, I was having problems with oatmeal. It affected my throat like I couldn't swallow properly.

Organic non GMO corn flakes have worked well for me.

For vegetables, it is really trial and error. I seem to be okay with potato, carrots and broccoli.  I try to stay away from the high histamine. 

Just be patient and go slow. Healing is definitely a long process. ♥️

[LostInCanada]

Best to respond and comment here so your moderator can help too.

[Elodie]

Thanks for the response. I ordered some organic cornflakes, I'll try it in a few 
days once I'm more stable. This evening I ate wild rice without any problems. 
I will try these 2 vegetables cautiously, one then the other. Yes you have to test
It warms my heart to know you are there 💓

[Elodie]

No that's not true I ultimately reacted to the wild rice with elevated mood and nervousness. This is another food I'm going 
to cut out. I'll come back with chicken morning noon evening. And try to introduce broccoli tomorrow. I must say that the
 situation is really worrying

[Elodie]

@LostInCanada In the cornflakes I found, there is either a little candy sugar or lecithin. Can I ask you what's in your Lost in Canada?
 Thank you for your response

[LostInCanada]

Mine have corn meal and/or corn flour, cane sugar, honey, sea salt. The brand is Nature Path. It's a local company.

[Elodie]

@GiaK

I wonder if I traumatized my nervous system again with the milk. Do you 
think that casein can have the same effect as an anti-depressant that we 
stop?

Hello, I read that you had problems with milk. Unfortunately I was on milk for 10 days and was very restless. I stopped but I
've felt pretty out of it ever since. And I was wondering if it was like I had re-traumatized my nervous system and it was 
going to take me a long time to recover again...what's your opinion? thank you for your response

[Elodie]

@LostInCanada@LotusRising@Altostrata

Hello my dears, I am writing to you because I really need help. I feel like I'm going to die. I've gotten to a point where my nervous system reacts to everything, even tap water. Also with chicken. I had decided to stop eating for a few days to desensitize the nervous system. And now my symptoms increase after I drink tap water. I'm going to go buy some bottled mineral water. In your opinion should I continue to fast to calm the nervous system or should I eat chicken anyway? For the first time I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel...I tell myself that if I continue to eat and excite the nervous system it will never be able to desensitize. What to do? Thanks

[LostInCanada]

Fasting puts extra stress on the body.

My suggestion is absolutely do not try any new supplements. 

You need to eat and drink. Please tell yourself you are safe, it is just adrenaline and it will pass. Deep breathe, in through the nose, out through the mouth. 

I am thinking your response to food may be fear because of previous reactions. Do you think that might be possible?

 

[Elodie]

@LostInCanada

Yes, thank you for your response. For lunch I ate chicken, rice and broccoli and it went well. In fact a few days ago I 
traumatized the nervous system by stopping cow's milk. Suddenly I was disconnected from reality, I had panic attacks and I 
believed that my symptoms were due to food. I had read at one point that Altrostata survived on just chicken. And I was 
afraid of sensitizing the brain. I'm missing the point. It's just waves. I was afraid of making things worse by eating. But 
around noon I had a small window and decided to eat. Yes I will continue to eat, avoiding seeds and nuts, dairy products and
 gluten. This morning I really thought I was going to die, that my nervous system could no longer support anything, that it
 reacted to any food because it had become so sensitive. Thanks for being there

[Elodie]

@LostInCanada 

Hello lost in Canada, you are extraordinary and you know lots of things. I was wondering about the food. Why is it advisable 
to avoid nuts and seeds, shellfish. Is it the immune system that reacts too strongly and creates antibodies against these 
foods? Or is it because they are foods rich in Omega 3? I don't understand why nuts gave me such anxiety? Because of the 
immune or nervous system?

thanks for your answer

[LostInCanada]

1 hour ago, Elodie said:

nuts and seeds, shellfish

These are high histamine so when too much histamine is released it can cause anxiety, heart palpitations, etc

1 hour ago, Elodie said:

Omega 3?

Some sources of this are high histamine as well.

 

I have been able to enjoy sunflower seeds and pumpkin seeds without a histamine reaction. 

1 hour ago, Elodie said:

Because of the immune or nervous system?

Because we are compromised some of us just become sensitive to foods that never were a problem before. Probably our body could handle the issue when we were healthy but now it just can't be overtaxed. That is how I see it. 

[Elodie]

@LostInCanada

Ok but Pecans and Chia seeds do not contain histamine. I drank cow's milk a few days ago and I feel like I traumatized the
 nervous system. Since then I can no longer tolerate nuts whereas before I could. And there is no histamine. Maybe just a
 sensitivity

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[LostInCanada]

2 minutes ago, Elodie said:

cow's milk

It can be high histamine if it is A-1 with casein. For myself I am sensitive to lactose.

 

5 minutes ago, Elodie said:

traumatized the nervous system.

Absolutely. Just be patient and kind to yourself. ♥️

[Elodie]

@LostInCanada

 

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Hello, I wanted to share some good times with you too. It was before the problems...good viewing ;-)