lespaul19 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Alto I'm sorry for bugging again but could you elaborate on what you meant exactly in saying I couldn't go back to an edenic drug state with any predictability? I'm not sure if I interpreted it wrong but it's been bothering me a bit 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted December 29, 2013 Administrator Share Posted December 29, 2013 Once you have an adverse reaction to these drugs, your nervous system will never respond to them in the same way it did before. If you had a good ride the first time around, all bets are off now. Please try to focus on non-drug ways to deal with your problems. Psychiatric drugs may not help in the future. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Mood has been ok the last few days, a few moments of anxiety, and I got really stressed at work and had some internal vibrations, some night sweats and have been sleeping about 6 hours 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 felt depressed today, nausea sleepiness and a bit anxious, i ate a lot of chocolate the past 2 days though so that could be why 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted January 5, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 5, 2014 Many of us here have to be careful with chocolate and other sweets, I'm not sure if its something in chocolate, or just the high sugar content. Everyone is different, but you may find that you can tolerate a small amount. Its very good that your sleep is improving, that's a good sign and will help with recovery. I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 My sleep is a lot better, but I feel hopelessly depressed when I wake up now instead of anxiety lol, if it's not one thing it's another it seems! But depression during the cold rainy winter months is normal for me, I've had it since I can remember 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 Took a single fish oil last night and have had a pressure feeling in my head/headache and felt tired and sluggish since, could the fish oil cause this? Or just coincidence 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 I guess I won't be trying fish oil again for a while, could 1 single tablet increase my anxiety like this? It's been fairly constant since I took it, and when I get anxiety it brings on racing/intrusive thoughts,nausea,head pressure, and slight burning/tingly nerves which make my anxiety worse, I've been calming myself by telling myself it's just the anxiety, it's gonna pass, and taking deep breathes, but it's very hard not to focus in. Has anyone else who reinstated/read about reinstating felt like anxiety was the last thing to go away? 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 I've also been thinking a lot about how I was pre medication trying to figure out where my anxiety stems from. I had bad separation anxiety from my mother, and a fear of storms/tornadoes, those got better once I started meds at 12-13ish. I can remember as far back as 5 years old feeling anxious about things, I vividly remember my dad getting frustrated with me about always saying "what if". I remember feeling sick when my anxiety got bad back then too, the same sick feeling I feel now but not as intense I guess. 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Woke up with rls, knees felt sore and my feet had a weird tickle sensation in them and if I didn't move them on my own a bit they would twitch, I've had this sensation 3-4 times in the last few years 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Can't shake this nausea, tired, depressed feeling, all I want to do is sleep 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Even among people suffering the most severe antidepressant withdrawal syndrome, repopulation of serotonin receptors probably occurs long before symptoms disappear. However, while the serotonin system is repairing itself, an imbalance occurs in the autonomic nervous system. The locus coeruleus "fight or flight" center becomes disinhibited and the glutamatergic system becomes more active than normal. This is called disinhibition of the alerting system, and it generates symptoms that are awful: panic, anxiety, sleeplessness, and dreadful imagery among them.Once disinhibition of the alerting system takes hold, it becomes self-perpetuating. The whole question of neurotransmitter imbalance -- a chimera of psychiatry anyway -- becomes moot. No manipulation of serotonin, norepinephrine, or dopamine is going to help. In fact, it usually makes the condition worse.alto, reading this from an article you wrote kind of scared me, does this apply to me? 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 12, 2014 Administrator Share Posted January 12, 2014 It applies to everyone with prolonged withdrawal syndrome. It's the neurological dysregulation we've been talking about. With a little help, the nervous system does repair itself. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Just wanting to know if there's any drug options for me if this doesn't work. I'm so scared I have all the ingredients for a horrible long lasting maybe permanent withdrawl, started at a young age, hypersensitive to the drugs, cold turkey withdrawal, adverse effects when reinstating, Jesus just typing it out scares me. Insomnia is back now. Feel nauseas and too sick to do anything. 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted January 14, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi Lespaul, I feel for you going through this. I think anxiety is making things worse for you. but you know that already! Your nervous system will get better in time, are you still taking 37.5 of Effexor? Did you feel any relief at all from reinstating? Please read the topics on coping with anxiety with natural means. If you can learn and practise some of the techniques you should be able to avoid drugs. I have learned a lot since joining here and manage situations much better now. 'Change the channel' is brilliant and really can help. Fish oil helps me and so do magnesium baths but if I take it orally it upsets my stomach. **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thanks mammap, I felt like crap the first week of reinstating, then felt good, almost normal for around 2 weeks with liveable symptoms, then I caught a nasty cold around 1 month after reinstating and was sick for 10 days, since then it's been functionable days and hard days, with this last week being all hard days, feeling anxiety, nausea, some insomnia, head pressure, dizzy with some other random symptoms that come and go... Feeling too "sick" to do anything 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 i want to start taking probiotics but im not sure which i should take, could anyone link me to some, or give me a name brand or type i should get also what dose i should start with? 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Also for the first time since this started I can't hear any tinnitus (my tinnitus was never too bad, I had to plug my ears to see if it was there or noticed it while trying to sleep in silence) and I slept 8-9 hours last night, I was in bed for 12 but I woke up a few times and knew I was half awake so I'm gonna guess I got around 8 hours of decent sleep albeit with some very mild sweats. I'm not really anxious or anything today but my mood seems very flat, and I'm lacking motivation. 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 15, 2014 Administrator Share Posted January 15, 2014 Please use search or Google on this site to find info about probiotics. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 I just weighed myself and I'm down to 140 pounds, I'm 6'1 with a small bone structure. I haven't weighed myself in years but I'd guess I've lost 15-20 pounds in the last 2 months. I have made a lot of diet changes in that time too like cutting out any sugary drinks which I used to drink a lot of, no fast food. I only drink water and coconut milk now. Is there any way for me to put on some weight during this? I don't want to become sickly skinny. 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
btdt Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Here's hoping for the best Could you tell me you experience talking paxil? I only ask because I found both paxil and prozac were similar to me in how my body and brain responded to them was thinking maybe the same is true of you. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 i gained a lot of weight, i dont really remember much else, on the prozac for a week i never had any problems, just the normal start up side effects of an ssri 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
btdt Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 thanks WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Last two weeks have been more of the same, some moments of bad anxiety and almost constant mild anxiety that I can manage for the most part. Some anhedonia, nausea, fatigue, off balance feeling, some cognitive problems, trouble concentrating etc sprinkled in 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
btdt Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 .It sounds like it is not a party but way better than it could be sounds not bad to me but I did not taper I am sure some taper experts will be along to chat with you peace to you. Since I did not taper I leave this to those who did as they know what they are talking about having lived it. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Not sure when I should start tapering either, I'm somewhat functional but I don't really feel stable. 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted February 6, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 6, 2014 I would give it a bit more time. Some people know they are ready to cut because they have been consistently symptom free for several weeks. Other people know its time because their symptoms have reduced to a tolerable level and are remaining consistently the way they are, no changes in intensity. Stable means just that...... no wobbling around of symptoms. Ideally you would be stable with no symptoms, but some people never seem to reach that point during a taper no matter how long they hold. Here is a discussion about it with other opinions, it may help you to reach a decision: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3949-what-does-stabilizing-mean/page-2?hl=stabilization I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks for the link petu, I will hold for a while longer before deciding what to do 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Lately symptoms like tinnitus and head pressure seem to get worse at around 6-10am, and they're the least noticeable from 5pm-5am ish, I've been taking my effexor at 5pm 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
btdt Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I can't hep much in the tapering department but was looking at your weight and wondering if you are still losing ... and a few of the other symptoms made me wonder if your not getting enough food... I don't know food is a big deal to me know maybe I am just being too nosy. In changing diets we still need to get some carbs as in sweet potato carrots even lots of veggies have carbs that are slowly absorbed to give you a smooth running stash of energy to get thru the day. Just curious. I am sure somebody who understand tapering will be along to answer those type questions soon. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted February 10, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 10, 2014 Lately symptoms like tinnitus and head pressure seem to get worse at around 6-10am, and they're the least noticeable from 5pm-5am ish, I've been taking my effexor at 5pm A lot of people have worse symptoms in the morning, this thread on 'cortisol mornings' may help explain it: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2144-i-hate-cortisol-mornings/?hl=cortisol I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 another question- im starting to think maybe i did hit poop out while on effexor, i started hanging out with friends less, sleeping more, but my anxiety never really came back, if i was in tolerance wouldnt my anxiety get worse too? and is there any harm in reinstating once you hit poop out? ive been feeling exhausted since friday.. all i want to do/have done is lay in bed, read, watch tv and sleep. 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 11, 2014 Administrator Share Posted February 11, 2014 I would not worry about poop-out if those are the only symptoms you had. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Hi alto! I've heard so many vague definitions of poop out so I wasn't sure.Feeling better today, depression/anhedonia doesn't seem as bad. Still have the weird feeling in my head, its very hard to describe, sometimes it feels like a pressure or tension headache but its not really painful just uncomfortable and sometimes it feels like my brain is swelling or moving in someway ... it goes away at times but is almost always present anywhere from 6-9am and randomly throughout the day, a bit unnerving. Not sure if I should be worried about it or not. 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 12, 2014 Administrator Share Posted February 12, 2014 That sounds like mild brain zaps, possibly. Please see the Symptoms and Self-care forum. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
lespaul19 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hmm I've had the zaps before when missing a dose, it doesn't really feel like that, it's more constant 2000-2001 10mg Paxil2001-2012 75mg effexor2012-2013 37.5mg effexorc/t effexor early oct, prozac for 10mg 7-8 days, off all meds until reinstating effexor 37.5mg nov 12th Link to comment
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