marie123 Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 Hello. I'm just checking in to post symptoms for my record. As usual I'm getting some symptoms 4 days after a cut. I've been getting some intense cold sweats with early AM wakeups. It's very strange because I sleep with air conditioning. I'm also experiencing some pinching nerve pain in my right inner thigh and right pelvis. Mirt sends out a lot of withdrawal effects so I'm not surprised by any of it. It all passes anyway. Be well everyone. Marie. 2 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 Hello. Ugh, my root canaled tooth is hurting. I was putting it off since January but it's flaring more. I woke up in the middle of the night and could not get back to sleep. You know I wonder about any pains in my mouth because Mirt makes my teeth very sensitive. Is the pain real or not I ask myself. I wonder if I could not get back to sleep because my tooth was hurting or just w/d. The tooth needs a retreat. The endo I like is hard to make an appointment with. He also likes going on vacation the last two weeks of August. I took a nap today and it was a bit toxic. I dreamed about my beloved dog that passed three years ago. It started out good but ended badly. I hate Mirt's nightmares. I like having nothing going on so I easily taper without distraction. Now I have to think about holding before the appointment so I don't feel sick going there. I guess I've done it before I'll do it again. I'll just think how much better I'll feel once it's done. It's smoky here in NY due to the wildfires in the west. It's crazy that it comes so far. The air is thick and smells smoky. It's awful and not healthy to breath it. A good rain in a couple days should get rid of it though. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Shebon Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Hi Marie: Shebon here .... I haven't been on here lately due to issues with thyroid med and most recently, a new multi vitamin that has caused some bad insomnia. I hope you can get in to your endo doc .....I had to have a root canal last July and my mouth was shaking when I opened it, as he worked on it. It is a tough thing to get through. My thoughts are with you to go through it as smoothly as possible. Congrats on getting down to 4.74 mg. You are doing quite well!!! We have smoky, hazy skies in CO too. Geez, for the smoke to get all the way to NY, that's really something. I'm hoping to start tapering again in August. I had to go back up to 3.75 mg. in January. And quit the levothyroxine drug end of March. And still trying to stabilize with sleep... Best regards, Shebon Started 3.75 mg. remeron 4/2013. Had tapered off benzo 4/2011. Had tapered down to 1.87 mg remeron but mistakenly thought I was in bad withdrawals, when it was Synthroid again. Stopped Synthroid 3/31/3021-side effects are the same as hyperthyroid symptoms, but doctors have no knowledge of this side effect. Started taper end of 7/2021, now at 3.48 mg. daily. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 Looks like I'm starting an antibiotic (clindamyacin) for my infected root canal. It will at least clear up the infection and pain until my appointment later in August. The A/B is known for potential C diff and guess what, Mirt increases your chances for getting C diff. It's in the list of potential side effects of Mirt. Someone tapering Mirt got C diff a couple times that I read about. I've taken this A/B a few times before for my teeth, but I alway take Culturelle the probiotic to keep the gut healthy and reduce chances of C diff. It really helps. When I was having problems at one point just from the Mirt I took the probiotic for a week and my gut improved. When I'm totally off I will have to do some work on my health including my gut. The probiotic will be useful for that. I've only gotten some hours each night due to the tooth pain. The A/B will kill the pain and help me sleep. Hi Shebon. I just got a notice you were on here. I'm happy that you are going to start tapering soon. I don't take any vitamins regularly. I probably should but supplements were causing reactions since 2014 so I avoided them. For instance Culturelle gave me insomnia. Now I react less and do not get insomnia from it. Orange juice (citric acid) gave me anxiety. I don't get anxiety lol. Now fresh squeezed orange juice is the bomb. I take a Vitamin D when I remember. I'm sick of going to this endo and I'm sure he is sick of me. Mirt is a destroyer of teeth. It still has that smoky haze here even after a thunderstorm. Good luck with your taper Shebon. I'm going to buy some garden plants and make another garden to keep my mind happy. Be well everyone. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Gigi68 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I’m so sorry to hear about your tooth, Marie. I have never had a root canal but my husband has. They sound awful, but I know a toothache can be extremely painful. I hope the antibiotic works and the procedure goes well. It has been extremely smoky here too. There are fires burning close to here so we have had a lot of smoke. I’m surprised it has gotten all the way to New York. It has become a regular unwelcome summer event here and makes us very nervous because our house is located in an area that has had a number of fires in the past decade. There have even been a couple of times we had to be ready to evacuate. The past three days have been uncomfortable for me from my last drop but I’m feeling better today. Enjoy your gardening. I love summer flowers! 2005-2013 Ambien 5mg. Stopped taking with little problem 12/20 Buspirone 7.5mg 2x daily 5/22 CT from Buspirone- no WD 12/20 Mirtazapine 7.5mg 1x daily 2/11/21 17% reduction homemade Mirtazapine liquid to 6.2ml, 3/27/21 5.9ml, 4/23/21 5.6ml, 5/8/21 5.3ml, 5/28/21 5.0ml, 6/13/21 4.88ml, 6/20/21 4.75ml, 7/2/21 4.62ml, 7/12/21 4.5ml 7/25/21 4.37ml, 8/4/21 4.24, 8/17/21 4.10, 8/27/21 3.96, 9/23/21 3.84, 10/8/21 3.72, 11/13/21 3.5, 12/13/21 3.3, 1/9/22 3.1mg, 2/10/22 2.9mg, 3/9 2.7mg, 4/8 2.5mg, 5/22 2.3mg, 5/28 CT Buspirone, 7/24 2.2mg, 8/24 2.05mg, 9/14 1.9mg 10/11 1.75 11/12 1.6, 12/3 1.47, 1/3/23, 1.35, 2/1 1.24, 2/23 1.14, 3/17 1.03, 4/7 .93, 4/27 .83, 5/18 .75, 6/13 .67, 7/17 .59, 8/7 .52, 8/25 .50, 9/1 .48, 9/23 .43, 10/22 .38, 11/5 .33, 11/20 .28, 12/4 .24 12/18 .20, 12/31 .15, 1/14/24 .10, 1/30 .07, 2/18 .04, 2/25 0, drug free Supplements: 4,000iu vitamin D, Vitamin K, Probiotic, 400mg magnesium glycinate, 250mg vitamin C, Fish Oil, collagen peptides, CBD or CBN as needed for sleep, Ginger Tummy Drops as needed Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 Hi Gigi. Yes there still is a haze in the sky from the smoke. It's bothering our sinuses over here. Tomorrow they say it should get better. Nice going with your tapering, just push through it passes. I might have to hold because of the tooth situation, unless I feel really brave in another week. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 Hello. Oh no I have not only an infected root canal but I just tested positive for a UTI. yay. My bladder was bothering me but it's so easy to put it off to withdrawal. I used the at home AZO test. Mirt can give you bladder issues, retention or too often, so this is why I thought it was w/d. So Monday the endo checks out the tooth and I think on the 8th he retreats the root canal. I want to mostly finish the clindamycin before I start with a different antibiotic. My doc gives me Bactrim. Monday afternoon or Tuesday AM I'll see my regular doc for the UTI. I always debate whether to tell him that I'm tapering Mirt. If he asks how I'm tapering Mirt, I can say I'm tapering slow but I cannot tell him I'm tapering by liquid. He did not want to give me a liquid. Mirt is a tiny pill and he might wonder how I'm doing it. If I tell him the compound pharmacy is making into a liquid without his consent he could get mad and not write the script anymore. He is a very pleasant doctor, but I do not know how he will react. I could say I'm shaving a tiny piece off each time. The clindamycin gives me dread,lots of fatigue, and a really spaced out feeling. To be honest I feel a little crazy on it. Bactrim is easier to tolerate. I do feel terrible when I take it, but the immediate relief of the UTI after one dose is magical. I will be holding for a while lol. Be well everyone. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Gigi68 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 So sorry about all your troubles Marie! How discouraging to not only have these new issues, but to now have to do a longer hold. Hoping for fast healing for you! 2005-2013 Ambien 5mg. Stopped taking with little problem 12/20 Buspirone 7.5mg 2x daily 5/22 CT from Buspirone- no WD 12/20 Mirtazapine 7.5mg 1x daily 2/11/21 17% reduction homemade Mirtazapine liquid to 6.2ml, 3/27/21 5.9ml, 4/23/21 5.6ml, 5/8/21 5.3ml, 5/28/21 5.0ml, 6/13/21 4.88ml, 6/20/21 4.75ml, 7/2/21 4.62ml, 7/12/21 4.5ml 7/25/21 4.37ml, 8/4/21 4.24, 8/17/21 4.10, 8/27/21 3.96, 9/23/21 3.84, 10/8/21 3.72, 11/13/21 3.5, 12/13/21 3.3, 1/9/22 3.1mg, 2/10/22 2.9mg, 3/9 2.7mg, 4/8 2.5mg, 5/22 2.3mg, 5/28 CT Buspirone, 7/24 2.2mg, 8/24 2.05mg, 9/14 1.9mg 10/11 1.75 11/12 1.6, 12/3 1.47, 1/3/23, 1.35, 2/1 1.24, 2/23 1.14, 3/17 1.03, 4/7 .93, 4/27 .83, 5/18 .75, 6/13 .67, 7/17 .59, 8/7 .52, 8/25 .50, 9/1 .48, 9/23 .43, 10/22 .38, 11/5 .33, 11/20 .28, 12/4 .24 12/18 .20, 12/31 .15, 1/14/24 .10, 1/30 .07, 2/18 .04, 2/25 0, drug free Supplements: 4,000iu vitamin D, Vitamin K, Probiotic, 400mg magnesium glycinate, 250mg vitamin C, Fish Oil, collagen peptides, CBD or CBN as needed for sleep, Ginger Tummy Drops as needed Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 Hello. I seem to be in a wave from stress, the antibiotic or? Clindamycin is slamming me, I think I'm getting dr/dp. Went to the endo today and he pulled a fast one. My appt. was for him, the top endo. I guess he just takes his richer patients. Instead I got his young endo associate. I have an appointment for a retreat of the root canal in a couple weeks. Hate this, but it was hurting me for a while and started keeping me up at night. I hope it can be saved. Tomorrow I see my doctor and get a script for Bactrim for a UTI. It's not a bad one but it tested positive twice on the test strips. It's not too bad now but I want to take care of it for sure and not wait. I'll get a culture and ask what bacteria it is. With all of this I ask myself is this w/d? Is my tooth hurting because of withdrawal? A few of my teeth are hurting right now, but this tooth seems a different (real) pain. Is my bladder bothering me and am urinating a lot because of w/d? You got me, I can only go with my best guess. I must rid myself of this drug. Stress is a killer with this med. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Gigi68 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Hi Marie, I hope you are starting to feel better. I’ve been thinking about you. I had some random tooth pain when I first started tapering but it didn’t last long. Probably your pain is the real thing. Did you get the antibiotic for your UTI? I am still having knee pain despite a cortisone shot and a month of PT. I’m getting an MRI next week. Like you, I wonder if it’s pain caused by mirt, but I don’t think so, and I’m tired of it. Take care! 2005-2013 Ambien 5mg. Stopped taking with little problem 12/20 Buspirone 7.5mg 2x daily 5/22 CT from Buspirone- no WD 12/20 Mirtazapine 7.5mg 1x daily 2/11/21 17% reduction homemade Mirtazapine liquid to 6.2ml, 3/27/21 5.9ml, 4/23/21 5.6ml, 5/8/21 5.3ml, 5/28/21 5.0ml, 6/13/21 4.88ml, 6/20/21 4.75ml, 7/2/21 4.62ml, 7/12/21 4.5ml 7/25/21 4.37ml, 8/4/21 4.24, 8/17/21 4.10, 8/27/21 3.96, 9/23/21 3.84, 10/8/21 3.72, 11/13/21 3.5, 12/13/21 3.3, 1/9/22 3.1mg, 2/10/22 2.9mg, 3/9 2.7mg, 4/8 2.5mg, 5/22 2.3mg, 5/28 CT Buspirone, 7/24 2.2mg, 8/24 2.05mg, 9/14 1.9mg 10/11 1.75 11/12 1.6, 12/3 1.47, 1/3/23, 1.35, 2/1 1.24, 2/23 1.14, 3/17 1.03, 4/7 .93, 4/27 .83, 5/18 .75, 6/13 .67, 7/17 .59, 8/7 .52, 8/25 .50, 9/1 .48, 9/23 .43, 10/22 .38, 11/5 .33, 11/20 .28, 12/4 .24 12/18 .20, 12/31 .15, 1/14/24 .10, 1/30 .07, 2/18 .04, 2/25 0, drug free Supplements: 4,000iu vitamin D, Vitamin K, Probiotic, 400mg magnesium glycinate, 250mg vitamin C, Fish Oil, collagen peptides, CBD or CBN as needed for sleep, Ginger Tummy Drops as needed Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 Hello. Gigi, I finished the A/B for the tooth and I am taking the A/B for the UTI. My left knee has been swollen for a long time. I don't bother because Mirt causes edema and joint pain. When I went off Traz my knee pain subsided for a while, but once I started tapering Mirt it happened again. Also any weight gain contributes to it (from Mirt). I think we need to taper off Mirt and see what the deal is with the issues we have going on. If it hurts badly though it's a good idea to get it checked. A redo on the root canal is scheduled for Aug. 14th with probably another A/B. I'm having a lot of yogurt and Culturelle. The variant makes me a bit nervous about going out to public places. It won't kill me since I'm vaxed but I don't want even a slight case. Long haul symptoms from it sound a lot like withdrawal symptoms and I've had plenty. I'm keeping my spirits up but it's tough out there. I know many have it worse so I'm thankful. Please everyone get vaccinated. We can make COVID go away. Be well everyone. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 Hi everyone. So I'm done with two rounds of A/Bs and feel pretty good today. I think I will make a cut tonight of .12 mg Mirt. I have dental work in another week so I'll have some time to even out. This cut will put me at 4.62 Mirt. I'm using a fresh bottle of liquid Mirt so that should help. Even if I get some delays in cutting the next few months I'll still be able to be at least 3.75 mg by the end of the year. It should be less though.Be well. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 Hello. So here we go again after the cut. Cold sweats during the night, muscle aches, sinus stuff...I know the drill. At least I'm making progress. I'm down to 4.62 mg Mirt. It's been one year and 4 months since I started the liquid taper. It's slow but I should be able to get most of the withdrawal over with during the taper, and then sneak off the last dose. Be well. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 Hello everyone. Just an update for my records. I'm feeling pretty decent as withdrawal has calmed down. I just have a bit of nausea sometimes in the AM. I'm thinking of taking a flight to the west coast to see family in a couple months. The Rolling Stones are playing there and I would love to go with family there. If covid calms a bit or stays the same I might just go. I need a change of scenery badly. I'll be masked and wearing noise cancelling headphones too. It would be a bit claustrophobic. It also would be the first time traveling with my liquid med. Flights and hotel is inexpensive due to what's going on. The pharmacy put a real script on the bottle which is nice. I don't want security taking it for any reason, and it need to be kept cold. I'd travel with a small cooler bag. If they call my doc to check he won't know about the liquid. I could tell them to call the pharmacy. I'll throw some pills into the luggage in case of emergency and I have to whip up a batch of liquid. I might put some of the liquid in one of those small shampoo bottles and sneak it through just in case. I can get ice after security from a food place. This is another reason I want off. I don't want to have to deal with this nonsense. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 Well today is a bit stressful. So I've been getting lower abdomen pain on the right side for the past couple days. Sometimes dull, sometimes sharp. I was thinking it's withdrawal, and it probably is. I told my husband and he asked if it could be appendicitis. I did not realize appendix was located on lower right side. It could be that so I said to myself hmm, I probably should see my doctor about this just in case. Doc was on vacation so I went to urgent care. Doc did not think it was the appendix but wants me to get a catscan. I have seen my obgyn doctor recently and everything was fine. Tomorrow morning I get to drink that stuff for catscan with contrast. I believe it's withdrawal. Others in w/d have gotten this random pain in the lower abdomen. With me in w/d stuff hurts for a while then goes away. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 Hello. Good news with the catscan. Everything looked good, so I can assume the pain is withdrawal related. Of course the pain went away the day of the catscan. Usually I don't get things checked so quickly, but if it's appendicitis you have to move fast. It could be dangerous. So I had to not eat breakfast or drink anything this morning. I felt so light doing this. This reminded me of intermittent fasting that some have tried in withdrawal. They lost weight and felt better overall. I think I may try this after I read more about it. Mirt weight gain is a big problem. It was not so bad missing breakfast and I would just continue it eating only two meals a day. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Hello everyone. The doctor called me with the results of the scan of the abdomen. Everything is fine. I have some gallstones but they are not causing me any issues. I want to try to get rid of them anyway. Earthclinic.com has some "cleanses" that work for some. I think I have to get off Mirt first since it could cause issues with the Mirt by doing cleanses. I need to lose weight too and I have a fatty liver. I can become very healthy if my plan follows through, Med free and losing a bunch of weight. I am hoping the weight falls off more easily when I'm done. This is what I have heard. I want to do some intermittent fasting along with low carb. I did a low carb diet years ago and the weight just fell off me quickly. I think I am going to cut tonight .12 mg Mirt. It would bring me down to 4.50 mg Mirt. I need to make a syringe change so I must be careful. I want to make another cut this August after that, so I'll be at 4.38 mg going into Sept. I need to just keep pushing through. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 17, 2021 Administrator Share Posted August 17, 2021 I would beware of any cleanses when your system is sensitized by drug mishaps. Low-carb can be good for weight loss if you usually eat a lot of carbs. Otherwise, I recommend old-fashioned calorie counting with a phone app such as Yazio. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Gigi68 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Hi Marie, I have been doing 16:8 intermittent fasting for about 4 years- started before mirt. There is a good fb group called 16:8 intermittent fasting Australia. I also follow a somewhat Keto diet. I think that’s how I’ve been able to keep from gaining weight on mirt. I usually eat between 10 and 6. 2005-2013 Ambien 5mg. Stopped taking with little problem 12/20 Buspirone 7.5mg 2x daily 5/22 CT from Buspirone- no WD 12/20 Mirtazapine 7.5mg 1x daily 2/11/21 17% reduction homemade Mirtazapine liquid to 6.2ml, 3/27/21 5.9ml, 4/23/21 5.6ml, 5/8/21 5.3ml, 5/28/21 5.0ml, 6/13/21 4.88ml, 6/20/21 4.75ml, 7/2/21 4.62ml, 7/12/21 4.5ml 7/25/21 4.37ml, 8/4/21 4.24, 8/17/21 4.10, 8/27/21 3.96, 9/23/21 3.84, 10/8/21 3.72, 11/13/21 3.5, 12/13/21 3.3, 1/9/22 3.1mg, 2/10/22 2.9mg, 3/9 2.7mg, 4/8 2.5mg, 5/22 2.3mg, 5/28 CT Buspirone, 7/24 2.2mg, 8/24 2.05mg, 9/14 1.9mg 10/11 1.75 11/12 1.6, 12/3 1.47, 1/3/23, 1.35, 2/1 1.24, 2/23 1.14, 3/17 1.03, 4/7 .93, 4/27 .83, 5/18 .75, 6/13 .67, 7/17 .59, 8/7 .52, 8/25 .50, 9/1 .48, 9/23 .43, 10/22 .38, 11/5 .33, 11/20 .28, 12/4 .24 12/18 .20, 12/31 .15, 1/14/24 .10, 1/30 .07, 2/18 .04, 2/25 0, drug free Supplements: 4,000iu vitamin D, Vitamin K, Probiotic, 400mg magnesium glycinate, 250mg vitamin C, Fish Oil, collagen peptides, CBD or CBN as needed for sleep, Ginger Tummy Drops as needed Link to comment
Gigi68 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I also meant to say that I have read that intermittent fasting is good because your body goes into a rest and repair mode when not digesting food. That has to be a good thing when tapering! 2005-2013 Ambien 5mg. Stopped taking with little problem 12/20 Buspirone 7.5mg 2x daily 5/22 CT from Buspirone- no WD 12/20 Mirtazapine 7.5mg 1x daily 2/11/21 17% reduction homemade Mirtazapine liquid to 6.2ml, 3/27/21 5.9ml, 4/23/21 5.6ml, 5/8/21 5.3ml, 5/28/21 5.0ml, 6/13/21 4.88ml, 6/20/21 4.75ml, 7/2/21 4.62ml, 7/12/21 4.5ml 7/25/21 4.37ml, 8/4/21 4.24, 8/17/21 4.10, 8/27/21 3.96, 9/23/21 3.84, 10/8/21 3.72, 11/13/21 3.5, 12/13/21 3.3, 1/9/22 3.1mg, 2/10/22 2.9mg, 3/9 2.7mg, 4/8 2.5mg, 5/22 2.3mg, 5/28 CT Buspirone, 7/24 2.2mg, 8/24 2.05mg, 9/14 1.9mg 10/11 1.75 11/12 1.6, 12/3 1.47, 1/3/23, 1.35, 2/1 1.24, 2/23 1.14, 3/17 1.03, 4/7 .93, 4/27 .83, 5/18 .75, 6/13 .67, 7/17 .59, 8/7 .52, 8/25 .50, 9/1 .48, 9/23 .43, 10/22 .38, 11/5 .33, 11/20 .28, 12/4 .24 12/18 .20, 12/31 .15, 1/14/24 .10, 1/30 .07, 2/18 .04, 2/25 0, drug free Supplements: 4,000iu vitamin D, Vitamin K, Probiotic, 400mg magnesium glycinate, 250mg vitamin C, Fish Oil, collagen peptides, CBD or CBN as needed for sleep, Ginger Tummy Drops as needed Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Hi Alto. Thanks for stopping by. I will absolutely not do any cleanses until I'm off the Mirt for a while. I read coffee is good for gallstones. Who knew? I may increase my coffee intake to 2 cups a day. I should drink more water too. I think I should at least try to lose some weight now. It will put me in a healthier and better position when I'm finally done with Mirt. Diets are hard but tapering meds is much harder. I can do this. Hi Gigi. I've already gained the weight from Mirt. I was not in a position to worry about weight when I was polydrugged. I've had big success with Atkin's diet (low carb) in the past. Weight fell off easily and right away. I was so surprised since every other diet I tried was tough. I lost 40 pounds! I would start intermittent fasting with only eating during an 8 hour period. I would push breakfast to noon, and not eat after 8 pm. I am getting exercise by gardening. Weeding is great. I do some every day. I'm getting stronger. My pants are a bit loose, yay. I cut last night a small amount, .12 mg Mirt. I am down now to 4.50 mg. I hate that Covid is around but it is giving me good cover to lay low and taper. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Gigi68 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Sounds like a good plan. Good luck! 2005-2013 Ambien 5mg. Stopped taking with little problem 12/20 Buspirone 7.5mg 2x daily 5/22 CT from Buspirone- no WD 12/20 Mirtazapine 7.5mg 1x daily 2/11/21 17% reduction homemade Mirtazapine liquid to 6.2ml, 3/27/21 5.9ml, 4/23/21 5.6ml, 5/8/21 5.3ml, 5/28/21 5.0ml, 6/13/21 4.88ml, 6/20/21 4.75ml, 7/2/21 4.62ml, 7/12/21 4.5ml 7/25/21 4.37ml, 8/4/21 4.24, 8/17/21 4.10, 8/27/21 3.96, 9/23/21 3.84, 10/8/21 3.72, 11/13/21 3.5, 12/13/21 3.3, 1/9/22 3.1mg, 2/10/22 2.9mg, 3/9 2.7mg, 4/8 2.5mg, 5/22 2.3mg, 5/28 CT Buspirone, 7/24 2.2mg, 8/24 2.05mg, 9/14 1.9mg 10/11 1.75 11/12 1.6, 12/3 1.47, 1/3/23, 1.35, 2/1 1.24, 2/23 1.14, 3/17 1.03, 4/7 .93, 4/27 .83, 5/18 .75, 6/13 .67, 7/17 .59, 8/7 .52, 8/25 .50, 9/1 .48, 9/23 .43, 10/22 .38, 11/5 .33, 11/20 .28, 12/4 .24 12/18 .20, 12/31 .15, 1/14/24 .10, 1/30 .07, 2/18 .04, 2/25 0, drug free Supplements: 4,000iu vitamin D, Vitamin K, Probiotic, 400mg magnesium glycinate, 250mg vitamin C, Fish Oil, collagen peptides, CBD or CBN as needed for sleep, Ginger Tummy Drops as needed Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Hello. My taper is doing fine but I might have to hold a while because of bad teeth. I have two root canaled molars that are infected, one on one side, one on the other. I am going to try to retreat them one at a time since they are my "big" molars and I sure can use them. I do not think it will work and I will have to get them both extracted. The good news is if they get yanked I won't have to worry about these painful teeth anymore. I might try to sneak in a cut or two here and there during healing times. My poor dentist retired because of a neurological problem. He needs surgery but is afraid to get it because it could leave his arms and hands paralyzed. Nice guy too. Be well. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 Hello everyone. I just finished up my root canal today. I hope it works. Feeling good all around so tonight I will cut .12 mg Mirt. This brings me down to 4.38 mg Mirt. I should be at least at the halfway point by December (3.75 mg). Sometimes it's hard after a cut but I've found a good pace to taper. A lot of times I feel pretty decent. I have been doing .24 mg a monthly lately and will continue to do it until I feel w/d is too strong. At that point I will just lower the amount I cut but still do it every two weeks. I slow taper because I want some quality of life so it's a good balance. I'm getting stronger and healthier as I cut away the med. Be well. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 Hello everyone. I cut 4/5 days ago and it felt like a typical cut. Tired and achy on the fourth day and now improving. I'm actually feeling pretty good. Some cuts are harder and some are much easier I've noticed. I'm down to 4.38 mg Mirt. My body and brain feels lighter after each cut. I'm getting ready to enjoy the change of seasons. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 My last cut went well with just some mild stuff at the beginning. I'll cut at the two week mark which is Thursday. I'll cut .12 mg Mirt so my dose will be 4.26 mg Mirt. I'll make another cut at the end of the month which should put me at 4.14 mg. I was thinking of taking a trip to the other coast but I think I'll wait until covid calms down some. A family I know flew there for a wedding recently. It was an extended family of eight including a baby and a toddler. Seven of the eight people caught the virus including the two children. I would never put that risk on my children like that. The adults were vaccinated and one of them had a serious case. Be well. Marie. Quote 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 Hello. So my cut on Thursday was fine with just some mild symptoms. I am now down to 4.26 mg Mirt. You know I get stiffness when I wake up in the morning due to Mirt. Yesterday morning I had workers coming early so I had to get moving fast. Unfortunately my muscle was not ready yet and I now have a bout of sciatica. I literally could not get out of bed without assistance. I loaded up on Ibuprofen and was using a heating pad all day. It has improved a lot and should be better in a few days. Another reason to get off Mirt, muscle stiffness. In two weeks I will cut again and will be down to 4.14 mg. I like being so close to the 3's. I can't wait. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 Hello everyone. Well the cut kicked in and I'm really feeling it. It's typical after 4/5 days for me. I'm getting pretty bad muscle pain in lower back, rear and legs. I have taken a couple Ibuprofen here and there but I don't like taking them. I feel like a space cadet when using them. If I take them at bedtime I do sleep deeper though. I've used hot and cold pads and had a wonderful lavender magnesium bath today. I make sure I don't sit too long a time and walk about some. I'm curious to see when this passes. I like when I find patterns. It's much better in the evening. I made an appointment for a Pfizer booster for next week. Last time I got the shots I just became much more tired. So I slept, not a big deal. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 Hello. My back pain from the pulled muscle is improving but it seems it may take longer that usual. I also have the Mirt aches that are making it a bit worse. It will all diminish eventually. I have had the leg aches and that is improving too. I hate when my legs feel like that. It is not only achy but they feel weak. Is that what they call jelly legs? I still feel positive during withdrawal. I don't know how but I'm doing it. I think it will be over one day and watch out, the fun I'm going to have. I guess I realize it's because I've done the w/d from two meds and how difficult it was. I do notice how very far I've come. There is no going back now, the finish line I see. Good luck and keep going everyone. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Estman Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 14 hours ago, marie123 said: Hello. My back pain from the pulled muscle is improving but it seems it may take longer that usual. I also have the Mirt aches that are making it a bit worse. It will all diminish eventually. I have had the leg aches and that is improving too. I hate when my legs feel like that. It is not only achy but they feel weak. Is that what they call jelly legs? I still feel positive during withdrawal. I don't know how but I'm doing it. I think it will be over one day and watch out, the fun I'm going to have. I guess I realize it's because I've done the w/d from two meds and how difficult it was. I do notice how very far I've come. There is no going back now, the finish line I see. Good luck and keep going everyone. Marie. I have the same symptoms If I reduce my Anafranil then about 2 weeks later there are body aches It is as if the whole body is in pain and the joints are weak A few days ago I was doing a sedentary job and my back was tired. I lifted one 10kg thing and the pain hit my upper back It's been painful back pain for 3 days now, it's hard to turn even in bed I also took ibuprofen The pain takes away but makes you very tired and causes severe depression Yes, sleep makes you deeper at night I probably also have stretching my back muscles and this has caused inflammation The withdrawal symptom seems to heal more slowly Xanax 0,5mg 1999-2019 a Xanax 0,5mg paar korda kuus, vajadusel Cymbalta 30mg 2012-25.04.2018 kitsenev 2-3 kuud,rasked sümptomid 1 nädal pärast viimast annust Amitriptüliin 25mg 25.05.18-20.01.19 ,kitsenev 2-3 kuuga, unetus, paanika-ärevus, segasusseisund, iiveldus Valdoxan 25mg 10.02.19-10.03.19, ei stabiliseerinud olukorda, Lorasepaam 10.02.19-20.02.19 vajadusel üleöö Brintellix 5mg 10.03.19-30.06.19 ,ei stabiliseerinud olukorda, hirme, segasust ja unetust, olin haiglas 1 nädal Olansapiin 5mg 01.03.19-02.08.19,unetuse leevendamiseks suureneb segasus, suureneb depressioon, tekib raske akatiisia Cymbalta 30mg 30.06.19-01.08.19,ei tööta enam, olukord ei stabiliseeru, jälle haiglas 2 nädalat Levomepromasiin 5mg 03.08.19-20.12.19 aitas magada, kuid suurendas segadust ja depressiooni Anafraniil 75mg03.08.19-15.12.19 15.12.19 , 35mg 17.05.20 , 27mg 01.01.21 16.07.21 oli päevane A19 mg 01.04.22 11mg 01.11.22 8,6mg, 01.11.23 6,5mg 01.01.24 5mg Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 Hello Estman. Thanks for coming by. Yes, the muscle symptoms are very common. Do you have hot pads and ice pads? I have both and I find that when I switch them on and off during the day it helps a lot. Taking those magnesium baths help too. Are you only taking Anafranil and tapering it? I'm going to look it up but I am thinking that it is an AD. Withdrawal can be so frustrating at times because is so drawn out. We just have to keep going slowly until we reach the end. Then the final windows and waves will come. They will get lighter and lighter, and farther and farther apart. Right there, we're done. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Estman Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 18 hours ago, marie123 said: Hello Estman. Thanks for coming by. Yes, the muscle symptoms are very common. Do you have hot pads and ice pads? I have both and I find that when I switch them on and off during the day it helps a lot. Taking those magnesium baths help too. Are you only taking Anafranil and tapering it? I'm going to look it up but I am thinking that it is an AD. Withdrawal can be so frustrating at times because is so drawn out. We just have to keep going slowly until we reach the end. Then the final windows and waves will come. They will get lighter and lighter, and farther and farther apart. Right there, we're done. Be well. Marie. Hi Marie, Yes, Anafranil is one of the strongest tricyclic antidepressants I have usually been able to reduce the dose by about 5-8% My main symptoms usually start 2 or 3 days after the dose is reduced and stabilize for about 35 days At first I get hot flashes, it is very hot at normal room temperature Then there is a common headache which ibumetin does not relieve It usually lasts one or two day. Then there is a rapid pulse and often high blood pressure. Often feel very unwell with nausea Sametime there is diarrhea and often abdominal pain I can't eat many things that I didn't have a problem with before However, the symptoms are especially disturbing during the wave. There is extreme agitation and dizziness in the head During a wide time, dreams are extremely bad, sleep is confusing, abstract and painful, and sometimes there are nightmares. Sometimes there has been insomnia but it usually goes away Usually 1.5-2 weeks after dose adjustment, severe depression sometimes occurs, unable to rejoice is despair Then I also have unfounded fears and certain phobias. Sometimes there are compulsions that I don't have otherwise. At the same time, there is pain in the body and general weakness in the body. Particularly disturbing is the great fatigue and weakness. I can not do harder work then and I get tired very quickly I take my dose every day at 4 p.m. Every day I feel bad at the same time and there is agitation and more fatigue, it happens between about 2 pm and 3 pm The situation usually does not improve until 8 pm Then between 15 and 20 o'clock the eyes are very watery and bad at all. I don't know why this reaction, maybe the dose of the drug in the blood is the lowest and stabilizes a few hours after taking the drug? In short, I hate this drug and I am very sorry that I once started taking it. Sometimes there is more agitation and restlessness after taking the medicine, as if it were caused by the medicine itself Doctors do not believe in withdrawal symptoms They just keep saying that the disease is coming back. In my opinion, it is even criminal that they are so lying and enslaving people. I believe that when I get rid of this pollution, I will be healeWhat experiences have you had yourself? The wave usually lasts up to 10-12 days and repeats several timesd Xanax 0,5mg 1999-2019 a Xanax 0,5mg paar korda kuus, vajadusel Cymbalta 30mg 2012-25.04.2018 kitsenev 2-3 kuud,rasked sümptomid 1 nädal pärast viimast annust Amitriptüliin 25mg 25.05.18-20.01.19 ,kitsenev 2-3 kuuga, unetus, paanika-ärevus, segasusseisund, iiveldus Valdoxan 25mg 10.02.19-10.03.19, ei stabiliseerinud olukorda, Lorasepaam 10.02.19-20.02.19 vajadusel üleöö Brintellix 5mg 10.03.19-30.06.19 ,ei stabiliseerinud olukorda, hirme, segasust ja unetust, olin haiglas 1 nädal Olansapiin 5mg 01.03.19-02.08.19,unetuse leevendamiseks suureneb segasus, suureneb depressioon, tekib raske akatiisia Cymbalta 30mg 30.06.19-01.08.19,ei tööta enam, olukord ei stabiliseeru, jälle haiglas 2 nädalat Levomepromasiin 5mg 03.08.19-20.12.19 aitas magada, kuid suurendas segadust ja depressiooni Anafraniil 75mg03.08.19-15.12.19 15.12.19 , 35mg 17.05.20 , 27mg 01.01.21 16.07.21 oli päevane A19 mg 01.04.22 11mg 01.11.22 8,6mg, 01.11.23 6,5mg 01.01.24 5mg Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 Hi Estman. I get a lot of the symptoms you just mentioned. I usually get hit after 4/5 days after the cut and it very slowly lessens. Right now I seem to get decent windows in the early afternoon. The pattern now is that the windows are coming earlier and earlier in the day as each day passes with this cut. Sometimes I get hit a second time two weeks after the cut. I believe it is just previous cuts catching up. I think with you your symptoms get worse at 2 to 3 pm because your brain is missing the med since you are giving it less and less. You take it at 4 pm and your symptoms improve. Your brain settles down after it gets it's dose. I think if we go slow enough especially at the end to let withdrawal "catch up", we'll have less time in withdrawal after we finish the taper. Good luck with your taper. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Estman Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 12 hours ago, marie123 said: Hi Estman. I get a lot of the symptoms you just mentioned. I usually get hit after 4/5 days after the cut and it very slowly lessens. Right now I seem to get decent windows in the early afternoon. The pattern now is that the windows are coming earlier and earlier in the day as each day passes with this cut. Sometimes I get hit a second time two weeks after the cut. I believe it is just previous cuts catching up. I think with you your symptoms get worse at 2 to 3 pm because your brain is missing the med since you are giving it less and less. You take it at 4 pm and your symptoms improve. Your brain settles down after it gets it's dose. I think if we go slow enough especially at the end to let withdrawal "catch up", we'll have less time in withdrawal after we finish the taper. Good luck with your taper. Marie. Hi Marie, Yes, it may be related to a change in the dose of the drug in my blood It usually gets better around 7pm or 8pm and after dinner How many hours after taking Anafranil does it get better If there is a lot of fatigue and a bad mood at 16-17, then in the evening around 21 or 22 there is normal energy again and there is no fatigue Then it is often agitation and difficult to fall asleep Sleep is just as lost as not tired While at 2 pm it is more or less normal, an hour later it is already tired Antidepressants seem to have a stimulating effect When their blood levels change, they become extremely weak and exhausted Exhaustion occurs in a short time and even when nothing is done I usually have a period of major depression and fatigue together Yes, I often have a second wave too What experiences do you have with fatigue and does it always go away? Have you also experienced despair and major depression a few weeks after the reduction? Xanax 0,5mg 1999-2019 a Xanax 0,5mg paar korda kuus, vajadusel Cymbalta 30mg 2012-25.04.2018 kitsenev 2-3 kuud,rasked sümptomid 1 nädal pärast viimast annust Amitriptüliin 25mg 25.05.18-20.01.19 ,kitsenev 2-3 kuuga, unetus, paanika-ärevus, segasusseisund, iiveldus Valdoxan 25mg 10.02.19-10.03.19, ei stabiliseerinud olukorda, Lorasepaam 10.02.19-20.02.19 vajadusel üleöö Brintellix 5mg 10.03.19-30.06.19 ,ei stabiliseerinud olukorda, hirme, segasust ja unetust, olin haiglas 1 nädal Olansapiin 5mg 01.03.19-02.08.19,unetuse leevendamiseks suureneb segasus, suureneb depressioon, tekib raske akatiisia Cymbalta 30mg 30.06.19-01.08.19,ei tööta enam, olukord ei stabiliseeru, jälle haiglas 2 nädalat Levomepromasiin 5mg 03.08.19-20.12.19 aitas magada, kuid suurendas segadust ja depressiooni Anafraniil 75mg03.08.19-15.12.19 15.12.19 , 35mg 17.05.20 , 27mg 01.01.21 16.07.21 oli päevane A19 mg 01.04.22 11mg 01.11.22 8,6mg, 01.11.23 6,5mg 01.01.24 5mg Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 Hello Estman. I have morning fatigue that's leftover from taking the Mirt at bedtime. The morning fatigue increases some when I cut or in a wave. Sometimes I get extreme fatigue. That is when I lay down for naps. Once in a while I get some light chemical depression in the AM, but diminishes by the afternoon. This is not to say I don't get depressed a bit because of all of this tapering nonsense. I can manage to get out of that funk fairly easily on my own. Fatigue is one of the main reasons why I am tapering off. I expect to have morning fatigue until I get very low, possible under the 2's. It should at least lessen some by then. The periods of extreme fatigue should go away sometime after I'm off. It might be blood sugar, loss of sleep catching up or just w/d. I don't know if all ADs have a side effect of fatigue, but a lot of them do. This cut I felt pretty strongly. More than usual achyness, increased AM fatigue, light nausea is happening. I am going to hold until I get some morning windows. I have been getting good windows from early afternoon until bedtime. Makes me want to stay up late. I get my Pfizer booster Monday. It might make me more tired than I already am. I'll just sleep it off. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 Hello everyone. I got my Covid Pfizer booster shot yesterday. I did not escape the side effects like the first two shots. It has really kicked my butt today. It feels like influenza, everything but nausea. I have been in bed all day and expect it to last at least another day. I am still glad I got it though. My immune system is fighting now I guess. Related to Mirt i have noticed that I have been getting angry spells lately. The anger is seething at times and I feel like I want to lash out. I know what it is so I'm trying to hold it back. These drugs are something else. I will take some Ibuprofen at bedtime to help with the flu aches and help me sleep deeper. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
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