Deise Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 17/12/2017 at 4:56 PM, BAT said: Deise Hello. I had an endoscopy done back in June 2015 because they were checking if I had celiac. One of the blood test came back a little high. I'm not sure what they used for sedation but at the time I was on paxil and Ambien but I didn't take the Ambien the night before. Also, they said that I couldn't take any of the medication after midnight. I was drowsy that all day and didn't the ant medication that day and ended up stopping the Ambien then and paxil a few days later. One of the many stoppage. My throat was sore for a while after. I don't remember exactly how long, maybe a week or two.. Thanks for letting me know your experience BAT! Did you do the endoscopy with anesthesia/sedation? If I make it it will be with propofol. How have you been feeling lately BAT? Any improvements? Let me know! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Deise Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 On a more positive note, today I went out to have a Christmas dinner with some friends. We exchanged some presents and had a nice time. It was the first time in around two or three months that I have been able to go out for a longer period of time without feeling weird. I felt completely normal while I was with them today. No weird visual disturbances, no nausea, no lightheadedness, nothing. It was weird even. Yesterday I went to a shopping mall that was full of people due to being so close to Christmas. I didn't feel very comfortable and started to get a little short of breath after a while but it was fine when I left. I was a bit down at night but I ate very poorly yesterday. So shopping + bad eating could have made it worse. I was in a good mood during the day though. Could this be a good sign? 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted December 19, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hi Deise, Yes. Of course. That's a good sign when you have a good enough day and can manage. And you are starting to get a good idea of what you may tolerate best. Pay attention to what you eat......it's important. Also......know your limits.......as far as shopping malls and crowds. You don't have to avoid those situations........yet sometimes you can manage better if you use time limits, as to how long you might stay at a mall or at a large gathering, etc. Sounds good. 11 hours ago, Deise said: I felt completely normal while I was with them today. No weird visual disturbances, no nausea, no lightheadedness, nothing. It was weird even. Lol........the weirdness of not feeling weird! Best, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Deise Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, manymoretodays said: Lol........the weirdness of not feeling weird! It's indeed a weird feeling, when you feel weird for so long and then you suddenly feel kinda normal again Have you felt it too on your best days? It's a most peculiar thing! Yes I have been feeling better lately, hope I can keep it that way for a while so I can start thinking about tapering again. But this time, reallyyyyy slooooowly Thank you again for all your support and the rest of the SA community. I'll keep you posted, hopefully with good news! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted December 19, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 19, 2017 Oh yes. I have felt the same. Hopefully you can string enough good days together Deise, and realize that you are in a nice wave soon. You are doing well. Best of the best for the Holidays! Best, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Deise Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hello everyone, something just happened to me that it's a bit scary so I wanted to ask you about it here. This happened twice this year, the first time several months ago. I fell asleep for a couple of hours before dinner and I suddenly woke up. When I woke up I was nervous and feeling weird, like not feeling myself. I wouldn't say a lack of memory because I immediately thought of my name, my address, etc and remembered everything. But it just didn't seem right. Like something was missing, some link that made those names feel like my own. It happened about 15 minutes ago and lasted for about 1 or 2 minutes. I feel better now, but still a bit shaken from the experience, as I got obviously anxious. I have no memory problems during the day, I even have a good memory. Maybe I can't memorize as good as before this meds bit it's still better than average I would guess. So I don't know Is this normal? Has anybody else experienced this? Should I be worried? 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
MiguelFreeman Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Deise said: Hello everyone, something just happened to me that it's a bit scary so I wanted to ask you about it here. This happened twice this year, the first time several months ago. I fell asleep for a couple of hours before dinner and I suddenly woke up. When I woke up I was nervous and feeling weird, like not feeling myself. I wouldn't say a lack of memory because I immediately thought of my name, my address, etc and remembered everything. But it just didn't seem right. Like something was missing, some link that made those names feel like my own. It happened about 15 minutes ago and lasted for about 1 or 2 minutes. I feel better now, but still a bit shaken from the experience, as I got obviously anxious. I have no memory problems during the day, I even have a good memory. Maybe I can't memorize as good as before this meds bit it's still better than average I would guess. So I don't know Is this normal? Has anybody else experienced this? Should I be worried? Isso passa deve ser desrealização de curto prazo eu agora por causa do trabalho ando feliz mas o corpo está estranho Zoloft(Generic)100 mg From 06/06/2016 to 02/10/2016 Lexapro(Generic) 20 MG From 03/10/2016 to 05/2017 Supplements: vitamin complex Lexapro (Generic) CT 05/2017 6/08/17- reinstated 10mg Lexapro(Generic)(50%of original doses ) 02/11/2017- 9 mg Lexapro(Generic) (10 % rule) (Homemade) 04/12/2017- 8.75mg Lexapro(Generic)(BrassMonkey slide) 19/12/2017- 8.5mg Lexapro(Generic) 06/02/2018- 8.35mg Lexapro (Generic) 16/2/2018- 8.22mg Lexapro(Generic) 25/2/2018- 8.09mg Lexapro (Generic)-05/03/2018- 7.9mg Lexapro (Generic)-28/03/2018-7.75mg Lexapro (Generic)-04/04/2018-7.66mg Lexapro (Generic)18/05/2018-7.64mg Lexapro (brand Liquid) 28/6/2018 7.50mg lexapro (Brand Liquid ) 15/7/2018 7.40 mg Lexapro(brand liquid) 7.30 mg Lexapro(Liquid) 27-07-2018 Forgot to update this but i continued to taper down until 21/12/2019 and final dose was 1.3 mg Time since Stoping 3y and 4 mouths xanax 16-01-2023 started 0.25 whent to 0.5 RX 1 week Back to 0.25 corrent dose 0.25 devided in 4 parts Link to comment
Deise Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 It's different from the usual dp/dr and the only 2 times it happened was immediately after a sudden wake up. Does anybody know what it might be? Or has anyone experienced it? 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Deise Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 Hi again. About 1 hour ago I was normally on my phone checking Facebook and sudden my my right hand thumb started twitching. Every few seconds there is a twitch, a contraction of a muscle/tendon (?idk) right between my thumb and index, which make my thumb twitch uncontrollably. I am scared, as antidepressants can cause neurodegenarative diseases and I don't want that to happen to me (or to anyone for that matter). It seems that everytime I get a little better, something comes along that scares me... Is this reversible? I am very worried 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted December 21, 2017 Moderator Share Posted December 21, 2017 Muscle twitches are very common while taking and tapering ADs. They can be pretty scary if you've never had them before, but they are more inconvenient than anything else. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Deise Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, brassmonkey said: Muscle twitches are very common while taking and tapering ADs. They can be pretty scary if you've never had them before, but they are more inconvenient than anything else. Thank you brassmonkey! It seems that they have subsided today. I never had them before so I thought some irreversible damage was happening and got scared! I hate this drugs 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Deise Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Hello everyone. This question is not about antidepressants but I'm checking if anyone here might know something about it. So, I was supposed to do an endoscopy but I haven't yet because I'm afraid. The thing is, the symptoms I have that can be related to acid reflux are getting worse. My doctor told me to take esomeprazole. Does anyone know about this drug? Esomeprazole or omeprazole? From what I've read they have pretty bad possible side effects I already eat a vegetarian diet and my only intake of dairy is through cheese. I'll have to stop eating cheese and maybe try to reduce gluten intake, I don't know. I'm afraid I'll have to take the pills as I don't want to... Any insight will be helpful! Thank you and sorry for the off topic! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Downbutnotout Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I take 10 mg of omneprazole. The doc put me on 20 but I figured out I did good enough on 10, It’s not supposed to be good for you, but if I don’t take it I can’t eat. I don’t have any side effects from it as far as I know. On 20, it was a little messy if you get my drift. 10 is no problem. But I’ve figured out since I’m so sensitive to medicine anyway, that’s probably why 10 works for me. It’s the least of my problems. An endoscopy is nothing. They put you out for a few minutes. You don’t feel a thing. 2001 Remeron , Celexa, prozac a week on lithium. 2014 went off effexor and trazadone in 3 weeks. 2014 zoloft (hyper reaction) put on effexor 75 mg. Was stable until 2017 2017 Trazadone 50 mg (June) Effexor to 113 mg (2 weeks) Effexor 150 mg for a month . Took 75 mg until November. . Lithium 10 days, Lamactil 10 day aug-nov15 ativan October : Prozac bridge to get off 75 mg of effexor Used 10 mg of prozac. Stopped prozac 3 wk Dec 6, 7 Upped trazadone from 50 to 100 mg Did it for 3 days Stopped it Dec 7 , Dec 8 Took prozac again 0.1 , 0.1, 0.6 stopped it Dec 11 and Dec 12 upped it to 100 again Dec 15 , 16,17 went back to 50 mg of trazadone December 18 Began 3 beads of effexor Dec 25 began 5 beads of effexor take 10 mg of omneprazole daily Link to comment
Deise Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Downbutnotout said: I take 10 mg of omneprazole. The doc put me on 20 but I figured out I did good enough on 10, It’s not supposed to be good for you, but if I don’t take it I can’t eat. Thank you for your answer Downbutnotout! And I'm sorry you can't eat without those pills I can eat, thankfully. But sometimes I feel dizzy, short of breath and have chest pain and palpitations after eating. Sometimes it feels like my stomach is heavy after eating also, and I burp a lot. Also have tachycardia. It's still manageable, but I'm afraid it can get worse :/ I've done chest x ray, ekg and Holter monitor 24h and everything is fine, so doctor is thinking of acid reflux as a cause. I assume acid reflux can also be cause by antidepressants, I don't know if it resolves when I finish tapering! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Kristine Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Hi Deise, I had similar issues..I ended up having a colonoscopy and endoscopy just to sure nothing else was going on. Everything was clear. I did some research and gave apple cider vinegar a go. Every morning a drink two teaspoons of acv, in a glass of water with a little honey. My symptoms cleared up in a few days. The type of vinegar is very important...acv with "the mother" it is available at most pharmacies and health food stores. K Citalopram 20mg - 40mg ~ approx 2010 - October 2015 (stopped over one week) Parnate 20mg - 50mg and olazapine 5mg ~ Jan 2016 - May 2016 (ceased over 2 days) Lithium 450mg-900 mg and Thyroxin ~May 2016 - May 2017 Diazepam various doses (including PRN) ~ 2015 - 2017 Oxazepam various doses (including PRN) ~ May 2016 - June 2016 Lurasidone 20mg ~Mid May 2016 - Mid June 2016 Vortioxetine 10mg - 20mg ~ 6th June 2016 - 20th July 2016 (abruptly ceased) Amitriptyline 200mg ~July 2016 - September 2016 (ceased over 1 week) Nortriptyline (dose ?) ~October 2016 ~ November 2016 (abruptly ceased) Seroquel XR 100mg - 300mg ~ May 2016 - August 2017 (ceased over 3 weeks) Escitalopram 10mg - 30mg ~ August 2016 - March 2017 (ceased over 2 weeks) Bupropion 300mg ~ December 2016 - May 2017 (ceased over 1 week) Clonazepam 1.5mg daily ~ July 2016 (started tapering May 2017 - September 2017 currently on 0.375mg..ie 0.125mg TDS) 27th May 2018 5% 0.357mg (possible paradoxical reaction - see benzo thread) 28th June 5% 0.337mg, 28th July 10% 0.303mg, 12th September10% 0.272mg, 18th September reinstated 10% due to intolerable WD 0.303mg, 1st October-11th Oct 10% (1% reduction over 10 days) 0.272mg, 22nd October clonazepam ceased crossed over 10mg diazepam Dexamphatamine 20mg ~ December 2016 (started tapering October 2017 - tapered 1.25mg 4th Dec 2017, 1.25mg 19th Dec 2017 6.25mg, Speed up decrease due to major interaction between Dex and fluoxetine- ref to thread 10% 17th Feb 2018 5.63mg, 10% 21st Feb 2018 5.1mg, 10% 26th Feb 2018 4.5mg 10% 28th Feb 4.1mg, 10% 1st March 3.7mg, 10% 5th March 3.3mg, 10% 8th March 3mg, 10% 10th March 2.7mg, 10% 12th March 2.4mg, 10% 14th March 2.16mg, 10% 16th March 1.94mg, 10% 18th March 1.74mg, 10% 20th March 1.57mg, 10% 21st March 1.41mg, 10% 22nd March 1.26mg, 10% 23rd March 1.13mg, 10% 24th March 1.01mg, 10% 25th March 0.9mg, 10% 27th March 0.81mg, 10% 29th March 0.73mg, 10% 31st March 0.66mg, 10% 2nd April 0.59mg , 10% 4th April 0.53mg, 10% 6th April 0.47mg, 10% 8th April 0.42mg, 10%10th April 0.37mg, 11th April 0.2mg, 12th April 0.1mg (last dose) OFF! Fluoxetine 40mg ~December 2016 - 31 Jan 2018 reduced to 20mg (probable serotonin toxicity) 10th March 2020 10mg (1:1 ratio), 7th April 9mg, 1st May 8.5mg, 15th May 8.0mg, 27th May 7.5mg, 8th Sept 7.2mg, 2nd Oct 7mg, 19th Oct 6.8mg, 28th Oct 6.6mg, 5th Nov 6.4mg, 26th Nov 6mg, 2nd April 2021 5.9mg, 9th April 5.8mg, 19th April 5.75mg, 22nd April 5.7mg, 26th April 5.65mg,28th April 5.6mg, 1st May 5.5mg, 4th May 5.45mg, 7th May 5.4mg, 10th May 5.35mg, 12th May 5.3mg, 15th May 5.25mg, 18th May 5.2mg, 20th May 5.15mg, 22nd May 5mg, 10th July 4.5mg, 9th Aug 4.48mg (switched from syringe to pipette method), 12th Aug 4.46mg, 14th Aug 4.4mg, 18th Aug 4.38mg, 19th Aug 4.36mg, 20th Aug 4.34, 21st 4.32mg, 22nd 4.3mg, 23rd Aug 4mg (hold), (micro-taper) 12th Oct 2021 3.98mg, 14th Oct 3.96mg, 15th Oct 3.94mg, 16th Oct 3.92mg, 17th Oct 3.9mg, 18th Oct 3.88mg, 19th Oct 3.86mg, 21st Oct 3.84mg, 22nd Oct 3.82mg, 23rd Oct 3.8mg, 24th Oct 3.78mg, 25th Oct 3.76mg, 26th Oct 3.74mg, 27th Oct 3.72mg, (WD reached intolerable level, reinstated 0.06mg) 28th Oct 3.8mg, 7th March 2022 3.7mg, 21st March 3.6mg, 4th April 3.5mg, 18th April 3.4mg, 2nd May 3.3mg, 16th May 3.2mg, 20th June 3.1mg, 4th July 3mg, 18th July 2.9mg, 12th September 2.7mg, 18th October 2.5mg, 14th Nov 2.3mg, 12th December 2.1mg, 18th January 2023 1.9mg, 9th July 2023 1.88mg, 16th July 1.86mg, 23rd July 1.84mg, 30th July 1.82mg, 6th Aug 1.80mg, 10th Sept 1.7mg, 12th Oct 1.68mg, 23rd Oct 1.66mg, 30th Oct 1.64mg, 6th Nov 1.62mg, 13th Nov 1.60mg, (2:1 ratio) 30th Dec 1.597mg, 7th Jan 2024 1.595mg, 8th 1.592mg, 10th 1.589, 11th 1.587, 12th 1.585, 13th 1.583, 14th 1.58 cont… 5th Feb 1.56mg, 11th Feb 1.55mg, 19th Feb 1.54mg, 26th Feb 1.53mg, 4th March 1.52mg, 11th March 1.51mg, 25th March 1.50mg, 1st April 1.49mg, 8th April 1.48mg, 15th April 1.47mg, 22nd April 1.46mg, 29th April 1.45mg Diazepam 10mg ~ 22nd Oct 2018, 10th November 8mg, 14th Nov 7mg, 8th December 6mg, 30th December 5mg (Nocte), 7th March 2019 4.5mg,14th March 4mg, 5th April 3.5mg, 9th April 3mg, 18th April 2.5mg,1st May 2mg, 17th May 1.75mg, 25th May 1.6mg, 4th June 1.59mg, 5th June 1.58mg, 6th June 1.57mg, 7th June 1.56mg, 8th June 1.55mg, 22nd June 1.4mg, 4th July 1.2mg, 16th July 1mg, 30th July 0.8mg, 13th Aug 0.6mg, 28th Aug 0.4mg, 10th Sept 0.2mg, 23rd Sept Off! SR Circadin 2mg (melatonin) 25th May - 20th June Zolpidem 10mg 25th May (7 tablets) Supplements: Magnesium glycinate (soluble - sip throughout the day) "Whenever you feel yourself doubting how far you can go, just remember how far you have come. Remember everything you have faced, all the battles you have won, and all the fears you have overcome" Unknown Link to comment
Downbutnotout Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Deise said: Thank you for your answer Downbutnotout! And I'm sorry you can't eat without those pills I can eat, thankfully. But sometimes I feel dizzy, short of breath and have chest pain and palpitations after eating. Sometimes it feels like my stomach is heavy after eating also, and I burp a lot. Also have tachycardia. It's still manageable, but I'm afraid it can get worse :/ I've done chest x ray, ekg and Holter monitor 24h and everything is fine, so doctor is thinking of acid reflux as a cause. I assume acid reflux can also be cause by antidepressants, I don't know if it resolves when I finish tapering! I don’t think acid reflux is cause by antidepressants but I don’t know. Mine is caused by a hiatal hernia which means since I’m older, there isn’t a strong connection between my stomach and esophagus. 2001 Remeron , Celexa, prozac a week on lithium. 2014 went off effexor and trazadone in 3 weeks. 2014 zoloft (hyper reaction) put on effexor 75 mg. Was stable until 2017 2017 Trazadone 50 mg (June) Effexor to 113 mg (2 weeks) Effexor 150 mg for a month . Took 75 mg until November. . Lithium 10 days, Lamactil 10 day aug-nov15 ativan October : Prozac bridge to get off 75 mg of effexor Used 10 mg of prozac. Stopped prozac 3 wk Dec 6, 7 Upped trazadone from 50 to 100 mg Did it for 3 days Stopped it Dec 7 , Dec 8 Took prozac again 0.1 , 0.1, 0.6 stopped it Dec 11 and Dec 12 upped it to 100 again Dec 15 , 16,17 went back to 50 mg of trazadone December 18 Began 3 beads of effexor Dec 25 began 5 beads of effexor take 10 mg of omneprazole daily Link to comment
Deise Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Kristine said: Hi Deise, I had similar issues..I ended up having a colonoscopy and endoscopy just to sure nothing else was going on. Everything was clear. I did some research and gave apple cider vinegar a go. Every morning a drink two teaspoons of acv, in a glass of water with a little honey. My symptoms cleared up in a few days. The type of vinegar is very important...acv with "the mother" it is available at most pharmacies and health food stores. K Thank you Kristine, I might as well give it a try! Is the taste bad or is it drinkable? I'm glad your symptoms subsided!! Is Bragg a good brand? It says it has the mother and it's certified organic (I found it on Google, I'll have to check my local stores 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Deise Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Downbutnotout said: I don’t think acid reflux is cause by antidepressants but I don’t know. Mine is caused by a hiatal hernia which means since I’m older, there isn’t a strong connection between my stomach and esophagus. My grandma also has hiatal hernia, and it bothers her very much I hope that you can find relief and happy that you manage on a lower dose of omeprazole! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Kristine Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 The taste isn't too bad but it is important to dilute it with water...I add honey so it's not too sour!!! I've heard braggs it a great brand...I use 'Barnes Natural' which is also organic. Unfortunately many psychotropic medications destroy our GI function. 90% of serotonin is found in the gut. One of the main prescription culprits of GERD is seroquel made by AstraZeneca, interestingly AstraZeneca also produce 'Nexium' (esomeprazole) to treat GERD...coincidence? I think not. I'd stay clear if you can. K Citalopram 20mg - 40mg ~ approx 2010 - October 2015 (stopped over one week) Parnate 20mg - 50mg and olazapine 5mg ~ Jan 2016 - May 2016 (ceased over 2 days) Lithium 450mg-900 mg and Thyroxin ~May 2016 - May 2017 Diazepam various doses (including PRN) ~ 2015 - 2017 Oxazepam various doses (including PRN) ~ May 2016 - June 2016 Lurasidone 20mg ~Mid May 2016 - Mid June 2016 Vortioxetine 10mg - 20mg ~ 6th June 2016 - 20th July 2016 (abruptly ceased) Amitriptyline 200mg ~July 2016 - September 2016 (ceased over 1 week) Nortriptyline (dose ?) ~October 2016 ~ November 2016 (abruptly ceased) Seroquel XR 100mg - 300mg ~ May 2016 - August 2017 (ceased over 3 weeks) Escitalopram 10mg - 30mg ~ August 2016 - March 2017 (ceased over 2 weeks) Bupropion 300mg ~ December 2016 - May 2017 (ceased over 1 week) Clonazepam 1.5mg daily ~ July 2016 (started tapering May 2017 - September 2017 currently on 0.375mg..ie 0.125mg TDS) 27th May 2018 5% 0.357mg (possible paradoxical reaction - see benzo thread) 28th June 5% 0.337mg, 28th July 10% 0.303mg, 12th September10% 0.272mg, 18th September reinstated 10% due to intolerable WD 0.303mg, 1st October-11th Oct 10% (1% reduction over 10 days) 0.272mg, 22nd October clonazepam ceased crossed over 10mg diazepam Dexamphatamine 20mg ~ December 2016 (started tapering October 2017 - tapered 1.25mg 4th Dec 2017, 1.25mg 19th Dec 2017 6.25mg, Speed up decrease due to major interaction between Dex and fluoxetine- ref to thread 10% 17th Feb 2018 5.63mg, 10% 21st Feb 2018 5.1mg, 10% 26th Feb 2018 4.5mg 10% 28th Feb 4.1mg, 10% 1st March 3.7mg, 10% 5th March 3.3mg, 10% 8th March 3mg, 10% 10th March 2.7mg, 10% 12th March 2.4mg, 10% 14th March 2.16mg, 10% 16th March 1.94mg, 10% 18th March 1.74mg, 10% 20th March 1.57mg, 10% 21st March 1.41mg, 10% 22nd March 1.26mg, 10% 23rd March 1.13mg, 10% 24th March 1.01mg, 10% 25th March 0.9mg, 10% 27th March 0.81mg, 10% 29th March 0.73mg, 10% 31st March 0.66mg, 10% 2nd April 0.59mg , 10% 4th April 0.53mg, 10% 6th April 0.47mg, 10% 8th April 0.42mg, 10%10th April 0.37mg, 11th April 0.2mg, 12th April 0.1mg (last dose) OFF! Fluoxetine 40mg ~December 2016 - 31 Jan 2018 reduced to 20mg (probable serotonin toxicity) 10th March 2020 10mg (1:1 ratio), 7th April 9mg, 1st May 8.5mg, 15th May 8.0mg, 27th May 7.5mg, 8th Sept 7.2mg, 2nd Oct 7mg, 19th Oct 6.8mg, 28th Oct 6.6mg, 5th Nov 6.4mg, 26th Nov 6mg, 2nd April 2021 5.9mg, 9th April 5.8mg, 19th April 5.75mg, 22nd April 5.7mg, 26th April 5.65mg,28th April 5.6mg, 1st May 5.5mg, 4th May 5.45mg, 7th May 5.4mg, 10th May 5.35mg, 12th May 5.3mg, 15th May 5.25mg, 18th May 5.2mg, 20th May 5.15mg, 22nd May 5mg, 10th July 4.5mg, 9th Aug 4.48mg (switched from syringe to pipette method), 12th Aug 4.46mg, 14th Aug 4.4mg, 18th Aug 4.38mg, 19th Aug 4.36mg, 20th Aug 4.34, 21st 4.32mg, 22nd 4.3mg, 23rd Aug 4mg (hold), (micro-taper) 12th Oct 2021 3.98mg, 14th Oct 3.96mg, 15th Oct 3.94mg, 16th Oct 3.92mg, 17th Oct 3.9mg, 18th Oct 3.88mg, 19th Oct 3.86mg, 21st Oct 3.84mg, 22nd Oct 3.82mg, 23rd Oct 3.8mg, 24th Oct 3.78mg, 25th Oct 3.76mg, 26th Oct 3.74mg, 27th Oct 3.72mg, (WD reached intolerable level, reinstated 0.06mg) 28th Oct 3.8mg, 7th March 2022 3.7mg, 21st March 3.6mg, 4th April 3.5mg, 18th April 3.4mg, 2nd May 3.3mg, 16th May 3.2mg, 20th June 3.1mg, 4th July 3mg, 18th July 2.9mg, 12th September 2.7mg, 18th October 2.5mg, 14th Nov 2.3mg, 12th December 2.1mg, 18th January 2023 1.9mg, 9th July 2023 1.88mg, 16th July 1.86mg, 23rd July 1.84mg, 30th July 1.82mg, 6th Aug 1.80mg, 10th Sept 1.7mg, 12th Oct 1.68mg, 23rd Oct 1.66mg, 30th Oct 1.64mg, 6th Nov 1.62mg, 13th Nov 1.60mg, (2:1 ratio) 30th Dec 1.597mg, 7th Jan 2024 1.595mg, 8th 1.592mg, 10th 1.589, 11th 1.587, 12th 1.585, 13th 1.583, 14th 1.58 cont… 5th Feb 1.56mg, 11th Feb 1.55mg, 19th Feb 1.54mg, 26th Feb 1.53mg, 4th March 1.52mg, 11th March 1.51mg, 25th March 1.50mg, 1st April 1.49mg, 8th April 1.48mg, 15th April 1.47mg, 22nd April 1.46mg, 29th April 1.45mg Diazepam 10mg ~ 22nd Oct 2018, 10th November 8mg, 14th Nov 7mg, 8th December 6mg, 30th December 5mg (Nocte), 7th March 2019 4.5mg,14th March 4mg, 5th April 3.5mg, 9th April 3mg, 18th April 2.5mg,1st May 2mg, 17th May 1.75mg, 25th May 1.6mg, 4th June 1.59mg, 5th June 1.58mg, 6th June 1.57mg, 7th June 1.56mg, 8th June 1.55mg, 22nd June 1.4mg, 4th July 1.2mg, 16th July 1mg, 30th July 0.8mg, 13th Aug 0.6mg, 28th Aug 0.4mg, 10th Sept 0.2mg, 23rd Sept Off! SR Circadin 2mg (melatonin) 25th May - 20th June Zolpidem 10mg 25th May (7 tablets) Supplements: Magnesium glycinate (soluble - sip throughout the day) "Whenever you feel yourself doubting how far you can go, just remember how far you have come. Remember everything you have faced, all the battles you have won, and all the fears you have overcome" Unknown Link to comment
Kristine Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 .....oh, and drink it through a straw to protect your teeth 😃 Citalopram 20mg - 40mg ~ approx 2010 - October 2015 (stopped over one week) Parnate 20mg - 50mg and olazapine 5mg ~ Jan 2016 - May 2016 (ceased over 2 days) Lithium 450mg-900 mg and Thyroxin ~May 2016 - May 2017 Diazepam various doses (including PRN) ~ 2015 - 2017 Oxazepam various doses (including PRN) ~ May 2016 - June 2016 Lurasidone 20mg ~Mid May 2016 - Mid June 2016 Vortioxetine 10mg - 20mg ~ 6th June 2016 - 20th July 2016 (abruptly ceased) Amitriptyline 200mg ~July 2016 - September 2016 (ceased over 1 week) Nortriptyline (dose ?) ~October 2016 ~ November 2016 (abruptly ceased) Seroquel XR 100mg - 300mg ~ May 2016 - August 2017 (ceased over 3 weeks) Escitalopram 10mg - 30mg ~ August 2016 - March 2017 (ceased over 2 weeks) Bupropion 300mg ~ December 2016 - May 2017 (ceased over 1 week) Clonazepam 1.5mg daily ~ July 2016 (started tapering May 2017 - September 2017 currently on 0.375mg..ie 0.125mg TDS) 27th May 2018 5% 0.357mg (possible paradoxical reaction - see benzo thread) 28th June 5% 0.337mg, 28th July 10% 0.303mg, 12th September10% 0.272mg, 18th September reinstated 10% due to intolerable WD 0.303mg, 1st October-11th Oct 10% (1% reduction over 10 days) 0.272mg, 22nd October clonazepam ceased crossed over 10mg diazepam Dexamphatamine 20mg ~ December 2016 (started tapering October 2017 - tapered 1.25mg 4th Dec 2017, 1.25mg 19th Dec 2017 6.25mg, Speed up decrease due to major interaction between Dex and fluoxetine- ref to thread 10% 17th Feb 2018 5.63mg, 10% 21st Feb 2018 5.1mg, 10% 26th Feb 2018 4.5mg 10% 28th Feb 4.1mg, 10% 1st March 3.7mg, 10% 5th March 3.3mg, 10% 8th March 3mg, 10% 10th March 2.7mg, 10% 12th March 2.4mg, 10% 14th March 2.16mg, 10% 16th March 1.94mg, 10% 18th March 1.74mg, 10% 20th March 1.57mg, 10% 21st March 1.41mg, 10% 22nd March 1.26mg, 10% 23rd March 1.13mg, 10% 24th March 1.01mg, 10% 25th March 0.9mg, 10% 27th March 0.81mg, 10% 29th March 0.73mg, 10% 31st March 0.66mg, 10% 2nd April 0.59mg , 10% 4th April 0.53mg, 10% 6th April 0.47mg, 10% 8th April 0.42mg, 10%10th April 0.37mg, 11th April 0.2mg, 12th April 0.1mg (last dose) OFF! Fluoxetine 40mg ~December 2016 - 31 Jan 2018 reduced to 20mg (probable serotonin toxicity) 10th March 2020 10mg (1:1 ratio), 7th April 9mg, 1st May 8.5mg, 15th May 8.0mg, 27th May 7.5mg, 8th Sept 7.2mg, 2nd Oct 7mg, 19th Oct 6.8mg, 28th Oct 6.6mg, 5th Nov 6.4mg, 26th Nov 6mg, 2nd April 2021 5.9mg, 9th April 5.8mg, 19th April 5.75mg, 22nd April 5.7mg, 26th April 5.65mg,28th April 5.6mg, 1st May 5.5mg, 4th May 5.45mg, 7th May 5.4mg, 10th May 5.35mg, 12th May 5.3mg, 15th May 5.25mg, 18th May 5.2mg, 20th May 5.15mg, 22nd May 5mg, 10th July 4.5mg, 9th Aug 4.48mg (switched from syringe to pipette method), 12th Aug 4.46mg, 14th Aug 4.4mg, 18th Aug 4.38mg, 19th Aug 4.36mg, 20th Aug 4.34, 21st 4.32mg, 22nd 4.3mg, 23rd Aug 4mg (hold), (micro-taper) 12th Oct 2021 3.98mg, 14th Oct 3.96mg, 15th Oct 3.94mg, 16th Oct 3.92mg, 17th Oct 3.9mg, 18th Oct 3.88mg, 19th Oct 3.86mg, 21st Oct 3.84mg, 22nd Oct 3.82mg, 23rd Oct 3.8mg, 24th Oct 3.78mg, 25th Oct 3.76mg, 26th Oct 3.74mg, 27th Oct 3.72mg, (WD reached intolerable level, reinstated 0.06mg) 28th Oct 3.8mg, 7th March 2022 3.7mg, 21st March 3.6mg, 4th April 3.5mg, 18th April 3.4mg, 2nd May 3.3mg, 16th May 3.2mg, 20th June 3.1mg, 4th July 3mg, 18th July 2.9mg, 12th September 2.7mg, 18th October 2.5mg, 14th Nov 2.3mg, 12th December 2.1mg, 18th January 2023 1.9mg, 9th July 2023 1.88mg, 16th July 1.86mg, 23rd July 1.84mg, 30th July 1.82mg, 6th Aug 1.80mg, 10th Sept 1.7mg, 12th Oct 1.68mg, 23rd Oct 1.66mg, 30th Oct 1.64mg, 6th Nov 1.62mg, 13th Nov 1.60mg, (2:1 ratio) 30th Dec 1.597mg, 7th Jan 2024 1.595mg, 8th 1.592mg, 10th 1.589, 11th 1.587, 12th 1.585, 13th 1.583, 14th 1.58 cont… 5th Feb 1.56mg, 11th Feb 1.55mg, 19th Feb 1.54mg, 26th Feb 1.53mg, 4th March 1.52mg, 11th March 1.51mg, 25th March 1.50mg, 1st April 1.49mg, 8th April 1.48mg, 15th April 1.47mg, 22nd April 1.46mg, 29th April 1.45mg Diazepam 10mg ~ 22nd Oct 2018, 10th November 8mg, 14th Nov 7mg, 8th December 6mg, 30th December 5mg (Nocte), 7th March 2019 4.5mg,14th March 4mg, 5th April 3.5mg, 9th April 3mg, 18th April 2.5mg,1st May 2mg, 17th May 1.75mg, 25th May 1.6mg, 4th June 1.59mg, 5th June 1.58mg, 6th June 1.57mg, 7th June 1.56mg, 8th June 1.55mg, 22nd June 1.4mg, 4th July 1.2mg, 16th July 1mg, 30th July 0.8mg, 13th Aug 0.6mg, 28th Aug 0.4mg, 10th Sept 0.2mg, 23rd Sept Off! SR Circadin 2mg (melatonin) 25th May - 20th June Zolpidem 10mg 25th May (7 tablets) Supplements: Magnesium glycinate (soluble - sip throughout the day) "Whenever you feel yourself doubting how far you can go, just remember how far you have come. Remember everything you have faced, all the battles you have won, and all the fears you have overcome" Unknown Link to comment
Deise Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kristine said: .....oh, and drink it through a straw to protect your teeth 😃 Thanks for the tip Yes, I'll try my best to avoid taking any more pills in the future. Indeed I find that many people taking psychotropic meds have either reflux or IBS (or both). Yes, that's a shady coincidence Thanks again for the information! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted January 5, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hi Deise, Yes, Braggs is good, mother root important. That was one of the first tips I got here. I used to add mine to tea with honey, and use a straw. It is also alkalizing(?alkalinizing), which helps with many issues. When I got that tip I don't think it was for GER(gastroesophogeal reflux) though. It may help though......and no harm done to try. I don't generally suffer any IBS, or reflux anymore. The reflux occurred with the atypicals(antipsychotics) for me. Seroquel is one of those. Possibly with the SSNRI that I was on as well. It resolved when off the medication. I also had a bit of reflux at the end of my pregnancy. Again, resolved with delivery. I still occasionally will use the ACV(apple cider vinegar). To alkalinize. Kefir is good for this as well. Alkalinization. And I am not sure about the spelling of that. Hopefully you can find some non-drug ways of coping? Did your doctor recommend any non-drug coping. The best one I recall is positional. We used to use it on infants in the hospital and it worked for me at the end of my pregnancy. Try elevating your upper body a bit during sleep and see if that helps. Love, peace, healing/in recovery, and growth, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Deise Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) Hi mmt, thanks again for your answer The doctor just told me to take esomeprazole I'll try the Apple cider vinegar and reduce cheese intake. And nightshade plants, heard they don't help either! I bought another brand of ACV because where I live we don't have Braggs But I bought it at a health store and it has "the mother" and it's organic also, so maybe it's good to go? Thanks for your help! Anxiety and depression wise, I'm feeling much much better lately, thankfully!! Edited January 5, 2018 by scallywag deleted quote of immediately previous post for readability 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted January 7, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 7, 2018 Hi Deise, Oh. The nightshades! I am just working on watching my nightshade and oxalate intakes now! So that's super. As long as it's the Mother Root then I would say..........yes, good to go! Excellent report then, as far as the anxiety and depression. Always good to hear from you.......as you are normal! I need more normal people in my life.......... Love and peace, healing and in recovery, and growth or revitalization of our nervous systems, manymoretodays Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Deise Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 Thank you mmt I believe we all are normal, just screwed by our doctors and pharma I'm still fine anxiety wise, just a bit sad because I have constant chest pain and tachycardia without apparent reason (my Holter exam showed I was having some 110 bpm while sleeping!!). Also I appear to be clenching my jaw during sleep as I wake up with it sore I have one question. I'm having a bit of a sore throat. Is paracetamol ok to take with ssri? I heard NSAIDs are a no go! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted January 10, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Drug.com information on your question: https://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1128-9754,11-12 I believe paracetamol is Tylenol? You might consider some rinses with good old warm salt water, just gargle it around a bit. As well as..........a nice bit of tea. No need to gargle that . I prefer the herbals. My Mum used to make us some with Tang(an orange flavored drink the astronauts used) and I'm not certain of the other ingrediants, it was hot and yummy/soothing. I'll grant you some extra rest as well. Chest pain and increased heart rate. If it were me, I would try and relax about this as much as possible for now. I mean it could be, and I'm only guessing.......some dys autonomic nervous system something coming into play? And you are currently having it medically evaluated it sounds like. Best, mmt Edited January 10, 2018 by manymoretodays Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Deise Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 Yes it's Tylenol So no interaction which is good. I read something about ibuprofen and other NSAIDs not being very good to mix with ssri, don't know if I'm wrong. I drank some herbal tea with honey this afternoon I think I have a cold. Probably not the flu (I hope) since I have no fever! I'll try to relax about the chest pain, but chest pain is scary for me. Always thinking it might be something serious I have one question. Magnesium is recommended here, but which type, do you know? There is glycinate, malate, chloride, etc. Are they all safe? Thanks again for your help and patience mmt, it is very appreciated! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted January 11, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) It does look like Ibuprofen may decrease the effectiveness of some AD's. I encourage you Deise, to go ahead and read about some of this stuff on your own. I just did a general search and found more of interest to read.......both on site here and other areas. I'm slowly gaining some computer skills, hopefully.............I just usually put whatever topic in my browser(my main one, in another window/computer window) and then pick and choose what results I want to look at that come up. If I want to search on this site........I do the same but add survivingantidepressants.org to my intial topic. So it's possible it's usage could complicate withdrawal as well as basic drug effectiveness a bit. I don't really think A/D's are effective for many, in the long run though. That wasn't the best link really, to read about more of the scientific/pharmacological/physiological basis of the interaction. I never worried/don't worry about a single usage or 2, myself though. I just use a combination type of magnesium in a capsule on occasion now. That way I can just add a partial capsule to water. It is important to drink a fair amount of water with each dose so that's how I do the oral form. I actually prefer the Epsom salt baths(magnesium sulfate) for just general relax when I need it and can access a tub. Magnesium and Omega 3's are the only supplements we recommend here. It's best to read and sort through on your own, some of the information on the threads. I think it will benefit you in the long run. It's also best to start with just the addition of one supplement at a time and on the lower end of dosage use. I see some links to both our magnesium topic and omega 3 topic on your first page. Discussing it with some of the other members might help you make some decisions as well. I'd recommend that yes, you do give a start to using one or the other. I think they can help greatly without harm. Best, manymoretodays Edited January 11, 2018 by manymoretodays Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Deise Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Thanks mmt, I will read more about the magnesium. The thing is I really need to start taking vitamin D because my levels are very low and I was advised to take it with magnesium (and also K2 but I'm not so sure about that, too many vitamins at the same time I suppose). I have an important question now though. My doctor fave me a prescription to have Luvox made into liquid at a compound pharmacy. It was a bit expensive as they said they only could guarantee the stability of the suspension for 15 days. Somehow they told me they would make the first 15 days for free so I could try and see if I got used to the liquid form. I asked and they said the components they use to make the liquid should not interfere with the drug (mainly flavours so it doesn't taste bad, they said). No sugars they said. So my question is, is it possible to react badly to the liquid form? Should I bridge from pill to liquid? I believe some posts ago Cheshire told me to do that but it was from homemade liquid? I'm going to read that better again. Any advise would be very helpful! 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Deise Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Ok, just re read Chessie advice from a few months before. The crossover was from pills to compound liquid. My only problem is that I don't have an exact measure at the moment because I just cut the pill roughly. I am taking less than 25mg and more than 20mg. I try to cut them evenly everyday but it's almost impossible. So with the liquid should I aim for a middle dose? Like 22mg? And how to do a cross over (3/4 + 1/4; 2/4 + 2/4, etc until it's all liquid was the advice of Chessie) if I can't measure the cuts? The most accurate I can cut is 1/4 of the pill, so 12.5mg I can still measure more or less accurately. But that would be 12.5mg pill and then the remaining 9.5mg liquid. Maybe it's to quick to change Also I only have 15 days to change and to notice if it causes me withdrawal or not... 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted January 13, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 13, 2018 It's possible that you might react to the liquid. I think that that is the idea of the crossover that ChessieCat laid out for you. So that you minimize any effect the change over may have. Will you be able to continue with the compound liquid for the long haul? As far as affording it? And did it come with a measuring device? So Deise, You are not on the 18.75mg. of Luvox that your signature now shows? Please update your signature with your current dose. What milligram(mg) strength is your pill now? And is it extended release or regular? You should stay with your present dose as you try the crossover. You want the total amount taken to be the same as it is now. Amount(mg) of pill + amount of liquid(mg) = to your present dose. The other option would be to make your own liquid. I'm also seeing links for you to look at this option back a few pages. Usually if you hit quote on an old post it will show on up in your new post. That might help us to help you sort it out. As far as the D3 goes, it may be a bit stimulating. You could start with perhaps a half dose and then increase as tolerated. Have you seen our D3 topic? http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/39-vitamin-d3-cholecalciferol-or-calcitriol/ I think that if I were you I would work on the magnesium for now. As well as starting to keep a journal here in your introduction in the format linked or laid out for you earlier. Update your signature as well. And then hopefully we can go further from there. How involved in your W/D is your doctor? And how informed is he/she? It's often a real rarity to find a doctor well versed in W/D, as you may know. Hope all is well enough, Love, peace, healing/inrecovery, and growth, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Deise Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Hi mmt, I just read this now sorry. I didn't start the liquid, it's to expensive in the long run and they didn't discriminate the other components of the liquid as I asked. I think I will make my own liquid. I'm just afraid that because there will be particles floating in home made liquid I won't be able to take an accurate dose :s I'm not on 18.75mg for a reason. I can't measure my pills accurately I have a pill cutter, but I can't cut it the same every time. I try to, but it's impossible. So what happens is that I don't take an exact dose for about 3 months or so. When I do the home made liquid, do I aim for 22.5mg? Because thinks it's the mean value of what I take everyday. As far as my doctor, she is not guiding my taper. She believes I should never have taken it to start with, but she, as the other doctors, thinks that I can just take it every other day for two weeks and then stop. I told her that doing that in 2016 was what sent me to this Hell to begin with and she said for me to reduce as I please then. 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Deise Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Now unrelated to my taper, I am very very angry and frustrated today. As I think I mentioned here before, my family does not support me. They say I should take the meds as the doctors say and that I am an hypochondriac. (One example: I was complaining about my ears for 3 months or so, and everyone kept saying it was all in my head, or anxiety. I booked an appointment with an ENT who told me I had an eustachian tube dysfunction sue to inflammation. No one believes me until a doctor confirms). So what happened today? My mother made an appointment with ANOTHER psychiatrist. She says all my problems are inside my head and that I should try yet another one (because my actual psychiatrist says I don't need meds). I told her that was stupid and it would make no sense to go to another one. "Oh but she cured X and bla bla bla" That immediately made me suspicious. Anyways, I told her I would go to prove to her that she would try to make me take even more meds. Surprise, Surprise. "You need to take another antidepressant WITH a benzo." I immediately told her no. So she took out a paper and started scribbling. "You have too much noradrenaline and too little serotonin, also it is genetic, bla bla bla" I told her that's not true because no one ever tested my genes or measured my serotonin to prove me that was it. Also that the meds never helped me, they only made me numb so of course my panic attacks would subside but it never resolved. I told her also that a sudden increase in dose caused my depression, that I never had before. What does she say to that? "That's a lie, your depression was already there, it wasn't the drug." I was pretty frustrated at this point, told her that no, I wouldn't take any more psychiatric drugs unless I'm dying from it. At that moment she said: "well, you're an adult and you don't want to get cured. When you want to get cured call me." She also told during the appointment that probably because I'm studying psychology that I think that psychology can solve anything but it can't because neurotransmitters and genetics My mom was with me the whole time, encouraging the doctor and telling her that I didn't want to listen to reason. I left the appointment very annoyed and said to my mom that yet again another psychiatrist just wanted to impose me more drugs. My mom said that I was rude to the doctor (I wasn't, I just used counter arguments that she was incapable to answer and got annoyed) and that next time I'm feeling bad or have a panic attack that I take care of it myself. I'm sorry for the long post but this is very angering and disheartening. I have no support whatsoever. This drug made me sick and I'm going through Hell to be able to stop it and all everybody does is try to give me even more drugs, call me lazy and hypochondriac. I really don't know how I can take this anymore. 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
AliG Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 46 minutes ago, Deise said: I'm not on 18.75mg for a reason. I can't measure my pills accurately I have a pill cutter, but I can't cut it the same every time. I try to, but it's impossible. So what happens is that I don't take an exact dose for about 3 months or so. When I do the home made liquid, do I aim for 22.5mg? Because thinks it's the mean value of what I take everyday Hi Deise, would you be able to explain a little more clearly, as it's hard to understand which makes it even harder to offer any advice. I don't take an exact dose for about 3 months? Every dose has to be exact. Why can't you cut your pills the same every time ? You need to be on a consistent dose and if that's not happening then we need to work out ~ why ? When you swap from pills to liquid it is a good idea to slowly change over from one to the other, gradually. Maybe, with a little more communication ~ we can come to a good solution. Don't worry, we are here to support you even if you are not getting it elsewhere. Your doctor is not helpful and maybe you could look for another that is more in alignment with your ultimate goal. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Deise Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Hi AliG. My usual doctor is fine. She thinks I don't need medication, although she doesn't really know about withdrawal, as most. It's a new one my mom insisted on me going today but I'm never going again. The problem with the dose is that I have a pill cutter but I don't have a scale to measure the dose. So I try to cut it similar every time but I'm sure the dose is not exact. It's difficult to measure without a scale. The smaller pill of Luvox here is 50mg. So I have to cut it in half and then a little more to be under 25mg. So that little more I have to cut is not exact. That's why my dose has been something between 20mg and 25mg I assume, because I can't cut it precisely. So my question was, if I do a home made liquid and switch so I can get more precise doses, which dose should I take? 22.5mg? It's the most approximate I can calculate. I think that maybe not having an exact dose because of rough cuts might be messing more with me than it would if I had exact doses everytime. 2001 - 2004 (9yrs to 12 yrs old): Clomipramine (don't remember dosage). 2013: Sertraline on September but stopped after two weeks. Xanax for 3 months (late september to december). Two days of terrible withdrawal insomnia and panic but stopped. 2014 - 2015: Luvox 50mg (february 2014 to june 2015). 2015 - 2016: Luvox 25mg (june 2015 to april 2016). Started to taper in April, taking one every other day for a week, one every two days. Severe dp/dr, anxiety and panic attacks. 2016 - 2017: Reinstated Luvox 50mg in June. Started to feel very depressed and anhedonia. Thoughts of suicide that scared me. January 2017: stared tapering Luvox. (Gradually reducing 1/8 of the pill, 6.25mg each time (every 4 to 6 weeks) - 12% of original dose, because my taper was going well and couldn't cut pill into smaller bits) July 2017: 25mg (Reduced 1/8 of the pill, equivalent to 6.25mg - 12% of original dose) August 2017: 18.75mg October 2017: 18.75mg Link to comment
Blondiee1915 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Hi Deise! I am also tapering Luvox . I switched to extended release last year and I count the heads now which is annoying but doable . I am taking about 22.8 mg now . Maybe that can be an option for you b 04/10 Luvox 25 mg PM, Nortriptyline 1 mg PM 03/08/19: Buspar 2.5 mg AM, 5 mg PM 01/01/19: Xanax 0.125 AM 5 times a week. Occasionally, 0.125 twice a day AM & noon 12/18 Armour Thyroid 60 mg (for hypothyroidism) Supplements: B Complex, B12 (adeno), multi-vitamin, D, Adrenal Cortex, iron Lexapro 20 mg 2007 - 2013 with various attempts to stop 2013 found a new Dr and started trying other meds: Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil, Nardil Lexapro 15 mg 2015 - 04/2016 Vibryiid 10 - 15mg 05/16-06/16 NO MEDS 07/16 - 10/31/16 Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro, increased to 5 mg 1/13/17 switched to Luvox 50 mg before bed 1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg PM 12/18 Luvox 10 mg PM, Nortriptyline 2 mg (started Nortriptyline 06/17 at 10 mg) Link to comment
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