Wwaterboy Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 It's amazing how strong 2.5 mg is for me now. Wow. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yeah, I had an absolute hellish time the past few days. Even 2.5 mg is just too much. I basically was manic. I can't get back on Paxil. It's just too much. I definitely had akithesia and burning sensations. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 I literally just took 0.5 mg from a syringe. I have not been able to sleep at all. I skipped a dose last night because I just couldn't bear the thought of another night of insomnia. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 I should be taking it in the morning because it's absolutely a stimulant right now. It's funny, I always took it at night, and maybe that's why I had such a hard time sleeping all the time? Doctors are so clueless about how these drugs actually work. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 I literally took .5 mg and feel wired. Do the other SSRI's give you such bad insomnia when you reinstate? 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
connaught45 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I'm so sorry to hear about your sister, and what you and your family have gone through. That's absolutely terrible. " Do the other SSRI's give you such bad insomnia when you reinstate? " I think it affects people differently. I've been on two different SSRIs in my lifetime and both made me sleep longer and deeper (e.g. not being able to wake up to a loud alarm). But I've heard other people say it causes insomnia. I think it's safe to say SSRIs impact sleep and it just depends on the person if that causes extreme drowsiness or insomnia. March/April 2017: began Zoloft 75mg November 2017: I went down from 75 -> 62.5mg by reducing by 2.5mg every couple of days December 2017: 62.5mg, one month hold January 2018: went down from 62.5 -> 50mg, reducing 2.5mg every couple of days February: 50mg, one month hold March to April: went down from 50 -> 25mg, reducing 2.5mg every couple of days early May: 25mg, two week hold late May to mid June: went down from 25 ->12.5mg, reducing 2.5mg every couple of days mid June to July: 12.5mg, one month hold August 2018: 0mg zoloft October 2023: 1mg to 3mg respiridone in 2 weeks, then cold turkey December 2023: 12.5mg zoloft Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 Thanks for the response connaught45, that means a lot to me right now! I think in the beginning they negatively impact sleep. And isn't it amazing I literally just took 0.5 mg of Paxil tonight in liquid form (made myself). Crazy. I don't know how I'm going to work tomorrow. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 Severe side effects from 0.5 mg!? Can you believe that!? Amazing how the pill tastes when you dilute it and put it in liquid and literally take a 0.5 mL. It tastes so disgusting. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 6, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 6, 2018 Please update your drug signature with the dates and doses of your reinstatement. Thank you. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 I don't understand how these drugs are this potent. I literally took 0.5 mg. 18 or so years after starting Paxil, I'm stressed out and I wanted some relief. That is not how these drugs work. Why did they make them so complex? Ugh. I haven't slept a wink. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 So, should I keep taking 0.5 mg until I get stable? I'm definitely having quite a bit of itching skin, insomnia, etc. It's really horrible. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 6, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 6, 2018 You've gotten yourself into trouble with the drinking, too. When did this itching start? What time of day do you take Paxil; does the itching or other symptoms have any daily pattern? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 I've been taking the Paxil at about 6 pm. I can't do it again, I'm serious. Not even 0.5 mg. The itching starts as soon as I take it. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 I think I quite literally have an allergy to paxil now after stopping and restarting so many times. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 Thanks Alto. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Wow! Fish oil really does help. Like, night and day for me right now to take it. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 I am in really bad shape again. I can't sleep, I can't eat. I'm thinking about going to a doctor and getting another SSRI. Will a different one work now or am I going to just be hyper sensitive to these meds now? I'm also considering going to a treatment center in Sedona that specializes in going off antidepressants. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 It's called Alt to Meds. I should have gone there a long time ago. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Terrible idea trying to reinstate. I think I made myself manic now and can't sleep at all. Not even a wink. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 11, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 11, 2018 On 7/6/2018 at 3:15 PM, Wwaterboy said: I've been taking the Paxil at about 6 pm. I can't do it again, I'm serious. Not even 0.5 mg. The itching starts as soon as I take it. Yes, it sounds like you have become sensitized to Paxil to the extent that you are allergic to it now. 10 hours ago, Wwaterboy said: I am in really bad shape again. I can't sleep, I can't eat. I'm thinking about going to a doctor and getting another SSRI. Will a different one work now or am I going to just be hyper sensitive to these meds now? I'm also considering going to a treatment center in Sedona that specializes in going off antidepressants. 10 hours ago, Wwaterboy said: It's called Alt to Meds. I should have gone there a long time ago. We have discussions about that facility on this site. We do not recommend it. Do you have any history with Prozac? Given its long half-life, it's the best SSRI substitute for Paxil. You might try 0.5mg. Prozac comes in a prescription liquid that makes it relatively easy to titrate. Your nervous system will settle down, but the iatrogenic sleeplessness is grueling. See Tips to help sleep -- so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia Waking with panic or anxiety -- managing cortisol spikes What is the sleep cycle? Melatonin for sleep: Many people find it helpful TV or computer use in evening can disrupt sleep: Bright light signals the brain that it's daytime This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 I have no history with Prozac. The drinking is completely done as of NOW. That can only add to my cortisol, which I believe I'm going through some alcohol withdrawal with this as well. I think I used it for so long with Paxil because, alcohol is basically dopamine, and I was overloaded with serotonin so WAMMO. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 I have no doctor. I'm trying to figure out if I should go to a hospital and do the inpatient psych thing. Then their just going to overload me with more meds. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 What is Celexa like to start? 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 I was also hearing mirtazapine might help. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Oh my god, I'm in a crisis. This restlessness is unbearable. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Maybe I should try getting the Paxil in me again. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 This is too horrific. What is going on with my adrenal system right now? It's completely over active. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 And now I'm having a total window which is really strange. Something to do with it being 6 days after my last Paxil? 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted July 12, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 12, 2018 Hi Wwaterboy, Yes withdrawals certainly are weird. Symptoms can change so much from on second to the next. We just have to ride them out. When your symptoms are bad keep finding things to distract yourself with. Take care💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Yes, that's what I'm learning. Thank you for the response. I hope I sleep tonight. Nodding off and experience panic is horrific. But I won't be drinking any alcohol for the first time in a while. We shall see. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted July 12, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Wwaterboy said: Yes, that's what I'm learning. Thank you for the response. I hope I sleep tonight. Nodding off and experience panic is horrific. But I won't be drinking any alcohol for the first time in a while. We shall see. Yes, the panic can be quite intense when in a wave. I’ve woken up in terror many times, but it’s no good focusing on it. We just have to ride it out and distract ourselves. Alcohol isn’t a good idea, or caffeine as they affect your central nervous system and they can make your symptoms worse, especially if you’re in a wave. Check out Claire Weekes as well, she talks all about floating through the withdrawals instead of fighting them. Take care💚 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Wow, I'm not going to sleep again tonight. Horrible. My sex drive just completely diminished. That's the first time that's happened and its kind of scary. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 I can't even get an erection for the first time in my life. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 I'm litereally shaking and sweating in my bed. I don't think I can do this for years. Oops wrong thread. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Ok so I’m in urgent care going to request something for anxiety and or sleep. I’m going to have to get back on a med this is hell. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
Wwaterboy Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 I just took my blood pressure and it is through the roof. 2000: Between 10 - 20 mg for over 17 years. March 2018: Paxil free. Bad taper over about 6 months starting at 10 mg using a pill cutter and 20 mg pills. June 27 2018: Started 2.5 mg using a pill cutter Paxil. July 1ish: Stupidly tried 5 mg and then have been back down to 2.5 mg. July 5: 0.5 mg. liquid. Link to comment
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