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If you are sensitive to light, you should stay in a dark room and wear sunglasses to go outside. If you are sensitive to noise, you should avoid noise.

 

People's nervous systems become hypersensitive after going off psychiatric drugs. It can take some weeks for this to diminish. In the meantime, you will want to avoid the kinds of stimulation you find uncomfortable.

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Asi1309

I'm going through HELL LITERALLY HELL, I didn't know I could suffer this bad in my LIFE!

and i can't reinstate either, because everytime I try to reinstate I'll get unbearable all body sensitivity which I can only describe as the most hellish experience!

So I'm stuck I need to ******* suffer every second of my day WTF Is going on ?!?!

I literally can't take it  no more!

That's the most hellish experience ever!!!

I don't know how to describe it no more expet I'm suffering so badly 😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😢

How long is this hell gonna Last?

And how does anyone could survive this I'm literally clenching my teeth and pushing every second and it's been sometime since I stopped those drugs, they ruined my life and any chance of living a normal happy life I've had!

What's the point of going on?

How could anybody suffer this much?!?!?!

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Asi1309

I want to die I can't take it no more

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Alanmane
5 minutes ago, Asi1309 said:

Quiero morir no puedo soportarlo más.

U are not alone, wait time... A huge

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Altostrata

Asi, how's your sleep now?

 

I'm going to be honest: I believe you feel "hypersensitivity" after reinstating even 0.2mg-0.5mg sertraline because you fear the drug.

 

To determine if one is having an adverse drug reaction, we need to see daily notes. You have not posted daily notes as requested.

 

Otherwise, you have post-acute withdrawal syndrome, like many people here. Please read other Intro topics to see how other people are coping with it.

 

Do you feel less distrust for Prozac? You might try 0.2mg Prozac instead. (See this topic for an alternative.) You're going to have to keep daily notes about your drug intake and symptom pattern to let us know how it affects you.

 

Reinstating is the only way medicine knows of stopping withdrawal symptoms. If you don't want to reinstate, you will need to stop dramatizing, accept a long, frustrating recovery process, and manage your symptoms with non-drug means.

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1 hour ago, Asi1309 said:

I'm going through HELL LITERALLY HELL, I didn't know I could suffer this bad in my LIFE!

and i can't reinstate either, because everytime I try to reinstate I'll get unbearable all body sensitivity which I can only describe as the most hellish experience!

So I'm stuck I need to ******* suffer every second of my day WTF Is going on ?!?!

I literally can't take it  no more!

That's the most hellish experience ever!!!

I don't know how to describe it no more expet I'm suffering so badly 😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😢

How long is this hell gonna Last?

And how does anyone could survive this I'm literally clenching my teeth and pushing every second and it's been sometime since I stopped those drugs, they ruined my life and any chance of living a normal happy life I've had!

What's the point of going on?

How could anybody suffer this much?!?!?!

 

I’m so sorry to see you’re going through such a tremendous amount of suffering. You mentioned meditation/mindfulness had helped before and you had an accomplished 9 months. 

 

I know that when the pain becomes super intense, it’s so hard to accept it and all thoughts of coping go out the window. But if you are suffering so badly and there is absolutely nothing you can do in the moment, please try and accept it as best you can. Mindfulness has been a literal life saver for me at times of extreme despair. 

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Asi1309
14 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Asi, how's your sleep now?

 

I'm going to be honest: I believe you feel "hypersensitivity" after reinstating even 0.2mg-0.5mg sertraline because you fear the drug.

 

To determine if one is having an adverse drug reaction, we need to see daily notes. You have not posted daily notes as requested.

 

Otherwise, you have post-acute withdrawal syndrome, like many people here. Please read other Intro topics to see how other people are coping with it.

 

Do you feel less distrust for Prozac? You might try 0.2mg Prozac instead. (See this topic for an alternative.) You're going to have to keep daily notes about your drug intake and symptom pattern to let us know how it affects you.

 

Reinstating is the only way medicine knows of stopping withdrawal symptoms. If you don't want to reinstate, you will need to stop dramatizing, accept a long, frustrating recovery process, and manage your symptoms with non-drug means.

My hypersensitivity is real and is aggravated by exercise, and when I try to reinstate .

It's very real and painful and I feel every part of my body is sensitive and hurt, 

Believe me its feel like my body is shouting at me when I'm exercising and afterwards...

The physical side doesn't bother me so much I can handle physical symptoms,  its something else I just feel like something is very wrong in a way that I clench my teeth,  it's just suffering. 

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Asi1309

I don't think its post acute,  i feel like its acute

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Altostrata

If exercise triggers your symptoms, don't exercise as intensely.

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Asi1309

Ok so I reinstated 1 mg last night, I have a question I do you know if you need to increase the dose?, and how much should you give each increase.

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Asi1309

Or should I stay at the same dose ?

What are the guidelines here 

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My most struggling thing now is the physical symptoms, not the hypersensitivity, or kindling I dunno how to call it, but physically I'm feeling really bad it's not mental it's like a junkie who would get a pain like burning sensation and it's very strong and I cannot take it its unbearable like my body is going haywire

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Shep
5 hours ago, Asi1309 said:

Ok so I reinstated 1 mg last night, I have a question I do you know if you need to increase the dose?, and how much should you give each increase.

 

Please read: 

 

On 10/8/2012 at 7:17 PM, Altostrata said:

How long should you give reinstatement?

  • It takes at least 4 days for your body to fully register the addition of a neuroactive drug. Unless you have an immediate bad reaction, observe your symptom pattern for about a week to see if the reinstatement is helping. If you have an immediate bad reaction, reduce or stop taking the drug.
  • After reinstatement, the amount of time needed to alleviate withdrawal symptoms (stabilizing) varies according to the individual. Relief can be felt immediately, after some weeks, or after some months.
  • Once you feel withdrawal symptoms are reduced after reinstatement, give your nervous system time to stabilize before attempting dosage reduction. Think in terms of months, not days.
  • Be patient after you reinstate. Reinstatement may not immediately eliminate all withdrawal symptoms. You may still experience waves of symptoms, which usually lessen as time goes on. Do not attempt to taper again until you feel symptom-free, or at least until your withdrawal symptoms are mild and tolerable.
  • The dose needed for effective reinstatement varies according to the individual.

 

 

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Asi1309

So today after experiencing an increase in symptoms I took only 0.5 mg and it currently been a week since I reinstated...

 

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Altostrata

Not clear how long you've been taking 0.5mg sertraline -- has it been a week?

 

Over the week, have your symptoms increased or decreased overall? Do you feel better or worse after taking 0.5mg for a week?

 

What do you mean, "increase in symptoms"? What symptoms? How intense were these symptoms, how long did they last?

 

By now, you know we need more detail when you report "symptoms." Please keep this in mind and provide the detail instead of making us ask for it.

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Asi1309

I'm sorry it's just so hard for me to describe because even I don't completely understand what I'm going through and the names of this symptoms,  English is my second language and also I don't like indulging in symptoms and stuff because I'll tend to obsess about them...

Anyway, I tried reinstatement (again 🙄) on Monday last week 10.12.18, and it basically went like this: 

10.12.18     0.1 mg

11.12.18     0.1 mg

12.12.18     1.5 mg

13.12.18     0.5 mg

14.12.18     0.5 mg 

15.12.18     1 mg

16.12.18     1 mg

17.12.18     0.5 mg

I know Its all over the place and not systematic at all but, I'm suffering so much and its hard to make smart decisions right now. 

I'm experiencing so many symptoms right now physically and mentally, so my only parameter is how much I suffer every day, its seems like I'm very sensitized by withdrawal, and even small doses such as 0-1 mg make the kindling worst.

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Asi1309

 Overall I don't think there is a reduction in symptoms.

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Asi1309

Besides more kindling 

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Asi1309

For now I am willing to take more kindling if there can be a reduction in the other symptoms, there's so many of them I need a list to copy from, but let's just  look at it as the amount of suffering I'm going through, now its unbearable like a 10, on a scale of 0-10, it's just easier for me to describe it that way and the only thing I'm experiencing since reinstatement is increased kindling/hyper physical sensitivity..

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Altostrata

What do you mean by kindling? When does this happen?

 

It would be a much better experiment if you took the same dosage at the same time each day. I need to know your symptoms before and after the dose. Please keep daily notes on paper about your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages. Use a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right.

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Asi1309
4 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

What do you mean by kindling? When does this happen?

 

It would be a much better experiment if you took the same dosage at the same time each day. I need to know your symptoms before and after the dose. Please keep daily notes on paper about your symptoms, when you take your drugs, and their dosages. Use a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom, drug and dosage) on the right.

I dunno if it's called kindling or not but, feeling like my entire body feels super sensitive and I can feel every movement every touch, its make me uncomfortable in my own skin,  and i can't workout cause of this, also the pin and needles and aches in the body.

 

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Asi1309

I'll try to make daily notes from now on alto

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Altostrata

You reported these exact same symptoms before trying 0.5mg sertraline, what's different now?

 

This is an exercise in simple logic. I understand the language difficulty, but sure you understand what I'm looking for here.

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